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25 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

It is reported that Russia has abandoned Snake Island.

It got heavily attacked overnight, the Russians abandoned it and are now presenting it as "a goodwill gesture" just like they did when they failed to take Kyiv.  

 

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6 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said:

That brings Sevastopol within range of Ukraine’s Neptune missiles.

If Ukraine attempts to reoccupy it. Its very small though and easy to bomb all of it. Presumably there is a danger that if Ukraine put men and equipment there the Russians will do the same to them. 

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18 minutes ago, buctootim said:

If Ukraine attempts to reoccupy it. Its very small though and easy to bomb all of it. Presumably there is a danger that if Ukraine put men and equipment there the Russians will do the same to them. 

Absolutely, it's a death trap for any forces stationed there. The Russians have been bombed out a few times there and decided enough is enough. AFU have also lost men and equipment trying to take it. Best just leave it alone for now. It's quite a scalp for AFU though, perhaps Russia could extend their current goodwill spirit and just f*** off home. If possible Crimea needs to be hit from afar now, Russia have lots of bases there.

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2 hours ago, buctootim said:

If Ukraine attempts to reoccupy it. Its very small though and easy to bomb all of it. Presumably there is a danger that if Ukraine put men and equipment there the Russians will do the same to them. 

I was thinking of just the ships that are stationed there. Sevastopol has always been a base for the Russian Black Sea fleet ever since the independence of Ukraine. It has been besieged twice, during the Crimean War and World War 2.

I have visited it (been driven through it) during a day tour. 

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2 hours ago, kyle04 said:

Absolutely, it's a death trap for any forces stationed there. The Russians have been bombed out a few times there and decided enough is enough. AFU have also lost men and equipment trying to take it. Best just leave it alone for now. It's quite a scalp for AFU though, perhaps Russia could extend their current goodwill spirit and just f*** off home. If possible Crimea needs to be hit from afar now, Russia have lots of bases there.

If nothing else it’ll reduce pressure on Odessa and the rest of the south coast of Ukraine. It also reduces support for the Russian forces occupying Kherson.

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1 hour ago, Jonnyboy said:

Laugh it up fuzzballs

 

Just to take one of his points; that NATO/EU should not have considered Ukraine as a member, as this would inevitably provoke Russia into action - rather that Ukraine, nominally independent, would exist as a 'buffer zone' neither in NATO/EU or under the direct influence of Russia. Of course this might, perhaps, be argued to be in the interests of both the West and Russia, but surely Ukraine has the right to self-determination ? He adds into this argument that Belarus is actually acting as such a buffer zone - no it isn't, it is a Russian puppet.

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Watched about half an hour, interesting from a historical lead up but the reasoning seems flawed to me. To quote Putin from years ago and assume what he said then is what he thinks now is just sloppy reasoning, actions speak for themselves, Russian passports are being dished out in Kherson when it will likely fall back into AFU hands at some point. It seems to me that most, but not all, Ukrainians wanted away from Russian influence. The west is arguably just as greedy and corrupt as Russia in some areas but at least it has some form of functioning democracy, it's people are largely free to speak their minds without fear of persecution. There are those in Ukraine that only today, as the Russians were advancing on Lysichansk, were blaming Zalenski (Sky news - the "biased western media"). The lecture quoted Putin as he would treat Ukraine "with respect".

As for Belarus, Lukashenko may well find himself hanging upside down from a lamp post if he's not careful.

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9 hours ago, kyle04 said:

As for Belarus, Lukashenko may well find himself hanging upside down from a lamp post if he's not careful.

Stories going round that Belarus is starting mobilisation of it's reservists. Also that the 'Governmemt' of Transnistra is asking for volunteers to sign up to fight for Russia.

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39 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

Stories going round that Belarus is starting mobilisation of it's reservists. Also that the 'Governmemt' of Transnistra is asking for volunteers to sign up to fight for Russia.

Apparently the Belarus army is more of a joke than the Russian mob. God knows what the reservists are like.

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7 minutes ago, skintsaint said:

Apparently the Belarus army is more of a joke than the Russian mob. God knows what the reservists are like.

One of 2 things to happen: it acts as a distraction and locks part of the Ukrainian army along the border, or a military coup against Lukashenko.

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5 hours ago, badgerx16 said:

Stories going round that Belarus is starting mobilisation of it's reservists. Also that the 'Governmemt' of Transnistra is asking for volunteers to sign up to fight for Russia.

If you believe the blog I post up Putin is going for a full Anschluss with Ukraine and Belarus 

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29 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

Ben Wallace is that rare beast, a Minister competent in his Portfolio. Sadly he spoils things by continuing to prop up the Greased Piglet.

To be fair be wouldn't be much of a government minister if he denigrated the government leader in public. 

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42 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

Ben Wallace is that rare beast, a Minister competent in his Portfolio. Sadly he spoils things by continuing to prop up the Greased Piglet.

Arguably could say the bigger picture is more important -  Wallace staying helps Ukraine. The one thing Govt don’t seem to be royally fucking up, other than the refugee chaos of course but that isn’t on him.

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On 06/07/2022 at 08:28, badgerx16 said:

Ben Wallace is that rare beast, a Minister competent in his Portfolio. Sadly he spoils things by continuing to prop up the Greased Piglet.

He can't jack it in for the sake of someone on the way out.... He is very good, and honest in the video (which has been common knowledge for years for those interested).  Our forces are disgracefully hollow.

Meanwhile, Russia pile on in Ukraine.  Those sanctions will bite any day now, right?

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18 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said:

He can't jack it in for the sake of someone on the way out.... He is very good, and honest in the video (which has been common knowledge for years for those interested).  Our forces are disgracefully hollow.

Meanwhile, Russia pile on in Ukraine.  Those sanctions will bite any day now, right?

Oh, ye of little faith!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-62103506

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On 08/07/2022 at 16:27, badgerx16 said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-62092196

 

"A Moscow councillor has been jailed for seven years for speaking out against Russia's war in Ukraine - in what is said to be the first full jail term under new laws targeting dissent."

Ukraine would never do anything like that. 

https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/w/communist-party-of-ukraine-banned-and-all-its-assets-seized-by-the-state

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53 minutes ago, Jonnyboy said:

Ukraine would never do anything like that. 

https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/w/communist-party-of-ukraine-banned-and-all-its-assets-seized-by-the-state

The Morning Star, a former communist and now pro-Putin mouthpiece, reports that Ukraine, in the middle of a brutal invasion that has killed thousands of it's civilian population, bans political groups that openly support the invader. Russia, denying that a war is actually taking place, jails a man for telling the truth.

Yep, exactly the same.

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1 hour ago, badgerx16 said:

The Morning Star, a former communist and now pro-Putin mouthpiece, reports that Ukraine, in the middle of a brutal invasion that has killed thousands of it's civilian population, bans political groups that openly support the invader. Russia, denying that a war is actually taking place, jails a man for telling the truth.

Yep, exactly the same.

You got to remember Jonny still wears Che Guevara t-shirts  and a beret so you are wasting your time.

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You got to remember Jonny still wears Che Guevara t-shirts  and a beret so you are wasting your time.

Our resident "Wolfie Smith" has not disappointed again.

Ukraine is at war and facing possible destruction Jonny, there are/were people in the Ukraine government who supported that, do you think those people wouldn't help the Russians if they could (arms shipments and movements, military planning etc). I don't think I've seen one post criticising Russia from this clown, the Morning Star, really?

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5 minutes ago, kyle04 said:

HIMARS having quite a large impact, even though AFU only have about half a dozen :

 

 

Indeed, it appears that Russia never considered Ukraine might gain access to weapons that could reach as far and as accurately as HIMARS. Building ammo stores to be more resistant to enemy fire is relatively simple. (thick walls, weak roofs, directs the force of any cook off of ammo upwards and prevents the entire thing going up.)

Too late for that now though, over the next few weeks, we'll likely see Russia start to encounter the same logistics problems that they suffered at the start when they over extended as logistics lines will need to be longer to keep them out of reach of Ukraine.

Ammo stores are just the most visible results as well. Russian command and control centers are being hit as well, with a combination of local resistance in occupied areas and western intelligence provided, it's extremely difficult for Russia to keep the location of potential targets secret.

Russia are digging even further into old reserves now, sounds like they're bringing 1950s troop transports out of storage.

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Reports of Russia emptying their prisons in their quest for personel (this is nothing new in war though).

Also they have started to store their ammo a lot further from the front lines (100km+) due to HIMARS strikes, which makes their logistics more difficult (in theory). The US can supply longer range missiles for these systems (300km) but are worried about AFU striking into Russia itself (why?). IF Ukraine can get more of these and with the longer range, Russia will have a real problem maintaining their WW1 style barrage tactics. The incredible accuracy of HIMARS is what sets it apart from the Russian stuff.

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18 hours ago, kyle04 said:

Reports of Russia emptying their prisons in their quest for personel (this is nothing new in war though).

Also they have started to store their ammo a lot further from the front lines (100km+) due to HIMARS strikes, which makes their logistics more difficult (in theory). The US can supply longer range missiles for these systems (300km) but are worried about AFU striking into Russia itself (why?). IF Ukraine can get more of these and with the longer range, Russia will have a real problem maintaining their WW1 style barrage tactics. The incredible accuracy of HIMARS is what sets it apart from the Russian stuff.

Russia has an extremely deep supply of shells, they're using them faster than they can make them, but they've been stockpiling for decades.

Ukraine won't be able to stop Russia firing completely, but there are already reported reduced rates of fire, which once again comes down to logisitics. One effect of the sanctions is that Russia doesn't have access to ball bearings now, either through their own production, or through any supplier. Without them, the inability to maintain vehicles and trains is already starting to bite and reduce their options to transport supplies.

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5 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said:

To be fair, it goes some way to explaining how the gullible Russians swallow the bollocks that Vlad puts out there.

I had to Google Gandhinagar and as far as I can tell this is this equivalent of a PL match between Liverpool and Hedge End.

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As the gas pipe to Europe is shut down “for maintenance” , there is now a huge blast at a power plant in Ukraine (have Ukraine agreed to supply Eastern Europe/EU with power?)

or is this a hit against Russian forces?

 

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24 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

As the gas pipe to Europe is shut down “for maintenance” , there is now a huge blast at a power plant in Ukraine (have Ukraine agreed to supply Eastern Europe/EU with power?)

or is this a hit against Russian forces?

 

Looks like an ammo dump going up. Nova Kakhovka is a hydro-electric generating plant, so unlikely to do that.

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27 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

As the gas pipe to Europe is shut down “for maintenance” , there is now a huge blast at a power plant in Ukraine (have Ukraine agreed to supply Eastern Europe/EU with power?)

or is this a hit against Russian forces?

 

Seems it's yet another Russian ammo store going up in Russian occupied territory.

Looks like the S400 anti-air can't intercept HIMARS, despite originally being bought by Russia on the basis it was advertised as being able to, and as a result any static Russian target in range is essentially defenceless.

There have been a LOT of Russian targets being hit way behind the front lines over the past few days, I'm not sure there's much Russia can do beyond send aircraft on missions to try and find them, but with the number of light anti-air missiles Ukraine have, they've effectively been able to enforce a no-fly zone of their own over territory they control for about 10 weeks now. With the range and mobility HIMARS has, any mission like that would be a long shot, and successful or not, would likely be one-way. Even then, it's only a matter of time until Ukraine receives more HIMARS.

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1 hour ago, AlexLaw76 said:

As the gas pipe to Europe is shut down “for maintenance” , there is now a huge blast at a power plant in Ukraine (have Ukraine agreed to supply Eastern Europe/EU with power?)

or is this a hit against Russian forces?

 

Probably the ammo dump at Nova Kakhovka, which is 60km+ from the front lines. A lot of MLRS rocket ammo cooking off apparently. Even by recent standards this is a big one. Another HIMARS strike without doubt.

Many countries are queing up to buy this system apparently, I can see why.

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