Russia

[badgerx16]

Oh the irony;

Speaking of the United Nations, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov emphasised that there is "a need for multilateralism and Russia has to remind the world of the equal sovereignty of different member states."

[badgerx16]

Transnistra claims Ukrainian saboteurs carries out a grenade attack on a security office. As plain a False Flag operation as you are likely to see.

[badgerx16]

"Russian troops in the occupied city of Melitopol have stolen all the equipment from a farm equipment dealership -- and shipped it to Chechnya, according to a Ukrainian businessman in the area.

But after a journey of more than 700 miles, the thieves were unable to use any of the equipment -- because it had been locked remotely."

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/05/01/europe/russia-farm-vehicles-ukraine-disabled-melitopol-intl/index.html

[whelk]

So unfair on the poor people of Russia who are not Putin

https://news.sky.com/story/russian-bid-to-host-euros-in-2028-is-thrown-out-12604272

 

[Jonnyboy]

 

[badgerx16]

6 minutes ago, Jonnyboy said:

 

What a complete cartload of codswallop that is. I'm not sure who he is, but he hasn't got the foggiest idea of how to draw a simile for the war in Ukraine.

[farawaysaint]

24 minutes ago, Jonnyboy said:

 

I almost made it through that video. I tried really hard for you.

The analogy was such horse shit though that I just couldn’t do it. Let me know if there was something important in the last 3 minutes. 

[Jonnyboy]

22 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

What a complete cartload of codswallop that is. I'm not sure who he is, but he hasn't got the foggiest idea of how to draw a simile for the war in Ukraine.

He is in Kharkiv, having been arrested and then released by Ukranian secret police

https://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/anti-zelensky-journalist-gonzalo-lira-released-by-sbu

In what way is that not a reasonable comparison for the never ending expansion of NATO? 

[Lighthouse]

[kyle04]

I don't think this man has ever read a history book, the hypothetical what if's are just laughable conspiracy theory ramblings. There's too many contentious statements to go through, but the thing is, many Americans will view stuff like this and swallow it. Still, that's freedom of speech for you, something Putin is not exactly keen on.

[badgerx16]

26 minutes ago, Jonnyboy said:

He is in Kharkiv, having been arrested and then released by Ukranian secret police

https://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/anti-zelensky-journalist-gonzalo-lira-released-by-sbu

In what way is that not a reasonable comparison for the never ending expansion of NATO? 

So, he is another Putin shill.

Just for starters, I don't want to make things too difficult for you;

At the end of WW2 Europe was split between the West, a number of independent and mostly democratic countries, and the East, a combination of a militarily suppressed 'empire' and it's occupied slave satellite states. Remember, many of these 'satellite' countries had themselves been self-governing democracies before the war. The West saw the East as the threat it was and formed a collective defensive pact that ensured their combined military strength deterred the expansionism of the East.

Many of the peoples in the East wanted to restore their pre-war democratic status, but were held back by totalitarian Governments, backed up by extensive secret Police networks. However, by the 1980's the power of the totalitarian puppet regimes was fading, as was the enforced stability of the Soviet 'empire', and one by one the Warsaw Pact countries broke away from Russian dominance, and as the central power control systems weakened, many of the component SSRs began to develop self awareness, eventually causing the 'Union' to fracture, and creating a whole new group of newly independent nation states, trying to re-invent themselves with a western, democratic, societal structure.

These newly independent countries knew that their old 'imperial' master was still very much present at their borders, and resentful of their rejection of it's warm embrace, so they followed their trend towards Westernisation by looking for stronger economic ties to help build their domestic development, the EU, and joined with NATO to gain the benefit of the mutually guaranteed defensive support it delivers.

Russia, meanwhile, somehow ended up with a new leader who had grand ideas of restoring the former 'empire' to it's glory days, and forcing the World to show it renewed respect.

And here we are...........

Edited 2 May, 2022 by badgerx16

[Jimmy_D]

2 hours ago, Jonnyboy said:

He is in Kharkiv, having been arrested and then released by Ukranian secret police

https://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/anti-zelensky-journalist-gonzalo-lira-released-by-sbu

In what way is that not a reasonable comparison for the never ending expansion of NATO? 

NATO only expands when countries want to join NATO, and expansion is resisted by NATO. It’s not easy to join because Article 5 is taken very seriously, and NATO both doesn’t want to increase the risk of it needing to be invoked, and doesn’t want new members that might not be as committed to Article 5 as existing members.

Still, if Russia says it’s all NATO’s fault that they’ve invaded sovereign territory it must be true eh?

[buctootim]

14 hours ago, Jonnyboy said:

 

 

What are you saying then Johnny? That democracy is bad and countries shouldnt be allowed to choose who they have alliances with? Maybe Russia wouldnt feel so threatened if they had some erm, you know, friends?  

And yes you're right. It is unfair to miss a tournament because you're Russian. It's also unfair to get shot in the back of the head because you're a Ukrainian on the way to the shops. I vote we sort out the gross injiustices first and the minor ones will disappear of their own accord. What do you say?    

 

 

Edited 3 May, 2022 by buctootim

[badgerx16]

Russia has banned the export of goods and raw materials to countries that have previously banned the import of said products and raw materials.

[Jimmy_D]

See that there are rumours floating around that cancer is scheduled for surgery for a Putin removal

[badgerx16]

6 minutes ago, Jimmy_D said:

See that there are rumours floating around that cancer is scheduled for surgery for a Putin removal

A few millimetres too far and we would find out who his successor is.

Edited 3 May, 2022 by badgerx16

[buctootim]

If its thryroid cancer as rumoured that normally very fixable unfortunately 

 

[badgerx16]

This is a photo of a deflated tyre on a Russian "Grad" missile launcher. On the sidewall it clearly reads "Made in USSR". Potentially the tyre is 30 years old.

Edited 3 May, 2022 by badgerx16

[kyle04]

Remember reading about this type of thing a few weeks back, as an indicator of how poorly maintained the Russian armour is. It seems the entire Russian military machine is dysfunctional, from manufacture through to battlefield. They haven't deployed an army this large since WW2, and clearly haven't got a clue of how to do it properly, which is why they've lost so much equipment and men (reasoned estimates state just under 50% of their deployed BTG's so far). I think if Ukraine can get the western artillery pieces into action quickly Russia could be in serious trouble.

[whelk]

1 hour ago, badgerx16 said:

This is a photo of a deflated tyre on a Russian "Grad" missile launcher. On the sidewall it clearly reads "Made in USSR". Potentially the tyre is 30 years old.

Why do they write it in English?

[Weston Super Saint]

20 minutes ago, whelk said:

Why do they write it in English?

Certainly seems odd that a tyre, made in Russia / USSR, for use on Russian / Soviet military vehicles would have any English writing on it.  More likely it is a tractor tyre made for the Indian market....

[Lighthouse]

5 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said:

Certainly seems odd that a tyre, made in Russia / USSR, for use on Russian / Soviet military vehicles would have any English writing on it.  More likely it is a tractor tyre made for the Indian market....

It's most likely both. It'd make sense for the rugged and simplistic industry of the USSR to produce a tyre which is simultaneously used on military and agricultural vehicles and was also sold for export as such.

[badgerx16]

12 hours ago, Weston Super Saint said:

Certainly seems odd that a tyre, made in Russia / USSR, for use on Russian / Soviet military vehicles would have any English writing on it.  More likely it is a tractor tyre made for the Indian market....

Probably true about it being an export model, but it was certainly mounted on a Grad launcher disabled in Ukraine.

Edited 4 May, 2022 by badgerx16

[buctootim]

17 hours ago, whelk said:

Why do they write it in English?

They were planning to deploy them in UK and US. 

[farawaysaint]

17 hours ago, Weston Super Saint said:

Certainly seems odd that a tyre, made in Russia / USSR, for use on Russian / Soviet military vehicles would have any English writing on it.  More likely it is a tractor tyre made for the Indian market....

I can 100% confirm that дшз the manufacturer was founded in the Soviet Union. It’s also a Ukrainian company so this is quite funny 😂😂

[Jonnyboy]

Amazing stuff, the Pope thinks shooting Ukranians in the head is acceptable (the sort of words that seem to get put into my mouth). 

https://www.politico.eu/article/pope-francis-nato-cause-ukraine-invasion-russia/

[farawaysaint]

40 minutes ago, Jonnyboy said:

Amazing stuff, the Pope thinks shooting Ukranians in the head is acceptable (the sort of words that seem to get put into my mouth). 

https://www.politico.eu/article/pope-francis-nato-cause-ukraine-invasion-russia/

The Vatican have adopted a position of neutrality as is common for them.

The pope wishes to intercede which he can’t do by saying that Russia is a bunch of violent war criminals.

That said Russia’s invading force are a bunch of violent war criminals and blaming Nato (which he also does not do) is dumb as hell.

[badgerx16]

53 minutes ago, Jonnyboy said:

Amazing stuff, the Pope thinks shooting Ukranians in the head is acceptable (the sort of words that seem to get put into my mouth). 

https://www.politico.eu/article/pope-francis-nato-cause-ukraine-invasion-russia/

 

11 minutes ago, farawaysaint said:

The Vatican have adopted a position of neutrality as is common for them.

The pope wishes to intercede which he can’t do by saying that Russia is a bunch of violent war criminals.

That said Russia’s invading force are a bunch of violent war criminals and blaming Nato (which he also does not do) is dumb as hell.

And the head of the Russian Orthodox Church, Patriarch Kirill, has said that Russia has never invaded another country, it has only ever defended it's own borders..

Edited 4 May, 2022 by badgerx16

[buctootim]

13 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

 

And the head of the Russian Orthodox Church, Patriarch Kirill, has said that Russia has never invaded another country, it has only ever defended it's own borders..

That'll be news to Poland, Czechsolvakia, Romania, Hungary, Latvia, Estonia, Lithunania. Finland, Albania, Georgia and Ukraine.    

[kyle04]

8 minutes ago, buctootim said:

That'll be news to Poland, Czechsolvakia, Romania, Hungary, Latvia, Estonia, Lithunania. Finland, Albania, Georgia and Ukraine.    

Afghanistan, Germany, Yugoslavia, Near Harad, Gondor....

[Lighthouse]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-61321799

 

[kyle04]

Russian TV bods calling for nuclear strike on the UK, including underwater "tsumani" bomb recently. In case anyone's remotely worried this is a good analysis of nuclear strategy/doctrine. It's lengthy but quite worth the effort.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxOO0hCCSk4

 

[badgerx16]

5 minutes ago, kyle04 said:

Russian TV bods calling for nuclear strike on the UK, including underwater "tsumani" bomb...........................

 

They do talk some proper shit on that TV channel.

[kyle04]

Just now, badgerx16 said:

They do talk some proper shit on that TV channel.

Agreed, but if you sow the seed ...?

[Jimmy_D]

18 hours ago, Lighthouse said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-61321799

 

Also Russia says Western intelligence to Ukraine won't thwart its goals | Reuters

[Jonnyboy]

ITV, those pro-Putin shills! 

 

[farawaysaint]

2 hours ago, Jonnyboy said:

ITV, those pro-Putin shills! 

 

This is the battle of Mariupol in 2014.

If say the IRA took over a government building do you think the government would send in special police yes or no? Every government on earth would have reacted in some manner to separatists taking over government buildings ffs.

[kyle04]

That video was posted on Youtube nearly 8 years ago. I think quite a lot has changed since then ?

[badgerx16]

30 minutes ago, kyle04 said:

That video was posted on Youtube nearly 8 years ago. I think quite a lot has changed since then ?

Jonnyboy hasn't got any smarter.

[kyle04]

 

20 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

Jonnyboy hasn't got any smarter.

Comedy gold.

It seems the Russians are attempting to storm the Azovstal steel plant, a nightmare for them it would seem. Putin desperate to present some sort of victory for May 9th parade, lets hope the Nazis hold out. They've been dropping more thermobarics on the place apparently, and there's still kids holed up in there.

[Lighthouse]

FFS! I can’t believe we sold Lallana and replaced him with a couple of cheap nobodies from the continent. £10 says a year from now we’ll be loaning out Tadic and Mané to League 1! 😠

[kyle04]

17 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

FFS! I can’t believe we sold Lallana and replaced him with a couple of cheap nobodies from the continent. £10 says a year from now we’ll be loaning out Tadic and Mané to League 1! 😠

Er, the database upgrade did not go well then?

[farawaysaint]

Rumours coming from Ukraine that they have sunk a Russian frigate with Neptune missiles, the “admiral Makarov.”

 

Hugely embarrassing just before victory day for the Russians if true and a hell of a lot more difficult to sell again as an “accident”.

Edited 6 May, 2022 by farawaysaint

[skintsaint]

7 minutes ago, farawaysaint said:

Rumours coming from Ukraine that they have sunk a Russian frigate with Neptune missiles the admiral Makarov.

 

Hugely embarrassing just before victory day for the Russians if true and a hell of a lot more difficult to sell again as an “accident”.

If true Russia are doing well to lose a naval war against a country with no navy.

[whelk]

7 hours ago, kyle04 said:

Er, the database upgrade did not go well then?

I’m not sure Scargill is going to win this miners strike

[Tamesaint]

43 minutes ago, whelk said:

I’m not sure Scargill is going to win this miners strike

YESSSS. Get In. Stokes 1 nil.

 

Edited 6 May, 2022 by Tamesaint

[badgerx16]

6 hours ago, farawaysaint said:

Rumours coming from Ukraine that they have sunk a Russian frigate with Neptune missiles, the “admiral Makarov.”

 

Hugely embarrassing just before victory day for the Russians if true and a hell of a lot more difficult to sell again as an “accident”.

Temporarily it's Wikipedia page included

"Decommissioned: 2022/05/06

Nickname: 'submarine'

Location: underwater"

[skintsaint]

1 hour ago, Tamesaint said:

YESSSS. Get In. Stokes 1 nil.

 

We will no doubt concede and lose.

[buctootim]

This is always an interesting read. Analysis of events inside the Kremlin updated everyday. Obviously unverifiable, but seems credible to me. 

https://t.me/generallsvr

 

Dear subscribers and guests of the channel! Yesterday, Russian President Vladimir Putin held a meeting via videoconference, which was attended by Secretary of the Security Council of the Russian Federation Nikolai Patrushev, Director of the FSB Alexander Bortnikov, Director of the Foreign Intelligence Service Sergei Naryshkin, Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu and four other people. It should be noted separately that representatives of the General Staff of the Russian Armed Forces did not take part in the meeting. During the meeting, they discussed the problems of conducting a military operation in Ukraine and the prospects for the development of events. Discussing the actions of the General Staff of the Russian Federation, Putin spoke in the sense that he had decided on May 8 to remove Valery Gerasimov, Chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, from the leadership of the military company. Gerasimov will continue to nominally be the chief of the General Staff, but he will not make decisions and influence the course of the military operation. Gerasimov will continue to represent the General Staff at briefings, collegiums, meetings and official events, but as a talking head, by analogy with Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu, who now retains the post of defense minister, but does not make or influence key decisions.

We have already said that the Chief of the General Staff Gerasimov promised the President the result in the form of the occupation of the Donetsk and Luhansk regions of Ukraine within their administrative borders until May 7, but he did not keep his word, and Putin was extremely dissatisfied. Tomorrow, Putin plans to communicate with Gerasimov in a one-on-one video link, and here the intrigue is whether he will give Gerasimov the opportunity to justify himself and rehabilitate himself in some way, or simply confront him with the fact of a decision already made.

Before the start of the war, Gerasimov was invariably in good standing with the president, and Putin himself always showed affection and respect for Gerasimov, almost always listening to his opinion on professional topics. The failure of both the beginning of the war and, in fact, the second phase of this war changed everything and Gerasimov fell out of favor with the president. And knowing Putin, it is always fraught.

 

[farawaysaint]

2 hours ago, badgerx16 said:

Temporarily it's Wikipedia page included

"Decommissioned: 2022/05/06

Nickname: 'submarine'

Location: underwater"

MP and Odessa regional council head said today “on fire but not sunk”.

Ah well, can’t have everything I guess.

Still pretty embarrassing another ship got hit.

Edited 6 May, 2022 by farawaysaint