Turkish Posted February 21 Posted February 21 has everyone taken their Ukraine flags down from their front gardens and off their facebook profile pics yet by the way? Dont see them anymore, guess it's not the fashionable cause at the moment
Gloucester Saint Posted February 21 Posted February 21 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Turkish said: has everyone taken their Ukraine flags down from their front gardens and off their facebook profile pics yet by the way? Dont see them anymore, guess it's not the fashionable cause at the moment Seen plenty still around here and in the Midlands, jacket lapels quite common. Can’t speak for other areas. With public opinion strongly against Trump and Vance’s behaviour I suspect more will pop up again. Edited February 21 by Gloucester Saint 2
sadoldgit Posted February 21 Posted February 21 13 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said: Seen plenty still around here and in the Midlands, jacket lapels quite common. Can’t speak for other areas. With public opinion strongly against Trump and Vance’s behaviour I suspect more will pop up again. Still see them around here too. The local charities are also still collecting cloths and other items for Ukraine, although they are also collecting for Gaza now. 1
Gloucester Saint Posted February 21 Posted February 21 1 minute ago, sadoldgit said: Still see them around here too. The local charities are also still collecting cloths and other items for Ukraine, although they are also collecting for Gaza now. Gaza is a bit more problematic in the Midlands, as people probably gathered from the GE, more along divided lines, whereas very strong support for Ukraine still.
Holmes_and_Watson Posted February 21 Posted February 21 2 hours ago, Turkish said: has everyone taken their Ukraine flags down from their front gardens and off their facebook profile pics yet by the way? Dont see them anymore, guess it's not the fashionable cause at the moment It's the money from flag and button sales that's going to be funding the Ukrainian Resistance movement. 1
Turkish Posted February 21 Posted February 21 1 hour ago, sadoldgit said: Still see them around here too. The local charities are also still collecting cloths and other items for Ukraine, although they are also collecting for Gaza now. i thought that might be the case in Romney Marsh 😂 1
Lighthouse Posted February 21 Posted February 21 If you’re every struggling to figure out your opinion on an issue, just check out what Beverly Turner has to say and go with the opposite of that, you won’t go far wrong. 1
badgerx16 Posted February 21 Posted February 21 Zelensky's approval rating has increased since Trump's tantrum. 3
Gloucester Saint Posted February 21 Posted February 21 31 minutes ago, badgerx16 said: Zelensky's approval rating has increased since Trump's tantrum. Everybody else’s will who has a spat with him. Popular at the moment in America but sliding already and will implode when tariffs hit everyday items (Americans didn’t learn our cost of living lesson from Brexit), India, and Moscow.
spyinthesky Posted February 23 Posted February 23 On 21/02/2025 at 19:45, Gloucester Saint said: Everybody else’s will who has a spat with him. Popular at the moment in America but sliding already and will implode when tariffs hit everyday items (Americans didn’t learn our cost of living lesson from Brexit), India, and Moscow. Apparently Trump has a 93% approval rate with Republicans and a 6% approval rate with Democrats
hypochondriac Posted February 23 Posted February 23 Whatever anyone thinks of Ukraine, the fact that America is bringing up coachredpill in serious conversation is absolutely batshit insane.
Gloucester Saint Posted February 23 Posted February 23 2 hours ago, hypochondriac said: Whatever anyone thinks of Ukraine, the fact that America is bringing up coachredpill in serious conversation is absolutely batshit insane. I had to look up who they were, must be getting older not knowing who some of these social media figures are https://www.newsweek.com/who-gonzalo-lira-pro-putin-american-expat-dies-ukrainian-jail-1860496 Sounded like a charmer.
hypochondriac Posted February 24 Posted February 24 12 hours ago, Gloucester Saint said: I had to look up who they were, must be getting older not knowing who some of these social media figures are https://www.newsweek.com/who-gonzalo-lira-pro-putin-american-expat-dies-ukrainian-jail-1860496 Sounded like a charmer. He was undoubtedly a psychopath that no one should mourn the death of. I had the misfortune to know of him prior to him moving to Ukraine and getting political. The idea that he is potentially one of the reasons that Trump is mad at Ukraine is laughable. 3
Gloucester Saint Posted February 24 Posted February 24 23 minutes ago, whelk said: 3 years since invasion. Fuck me time flies Worth reflecting as well on the carnage of it, estimated 120k Russians and 70k Ukrainians killed and the sheer physical destruction. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cgkm7lly61do All for one man and his inner circle’s obsession with bringing back the USSR. 3
badgerx16 Posted February 24 Posted February 24 (edited) Ex-Reform UK Wales leader accused of taking Russian bribes https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c241n65qz9do "The former leader of Reform UK in Wales has appeared in court accused of accepting bribes in exchange for making statements in the European Parliament that would benefit Russia, a court has heard." Edited February 24 by badgerx16 1
Gloucester Saint Posted February 24 Posted February 24 31 minutes ago, badgerx16 said: Ex-Reform UK Wales leader accused of taking Russian bribes https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c241n65qz9do "The former leader of Reform UK in Wales has appeared in court accused of accepting bribes in exchange for making statements in the European Parliament that would benefit Russia, a court has heard." Not a surprise when you look at where the money comes from https://www.ft.com/content/d21a37fc-04d8-11e7-ace0-1ce02ef0def9 and https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2017/02/08/property-developer-brothers-nick-christian-candy-accused-threatening/ Aaron Banks was up to his eyeballs with the Russian regime as well https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-61782578
badgerx16 Posted February 24 Posted February 24 The US has voted against the recurring UN Resolution that calls Russia the aggressor in the conflict. 1
Gloucester Saint Posted February 24 Posted February 24 (edited) 1 hour ago, badgerx16 said: The US has voted against the recurring UN Resolution that calls Russia the aggressor in the conflict. There’s the 18 who voted against 16 dead end shitholes, plus Hungary and Israel who are led by total and utter cunts. Edited February 24 by Gloucester Saint 5
egg Posted February 24 Posted February 24 2 hours ago, Gloucester Saint said: There’s the 18 who voted against 16 dead end shitholes, plus Hungary and Israel who are led by total and utter cunts. 65 abstentions as well. So 83 voting with the USA/Russia or abstaining, and 93 voting as they should. That's alarmingly close to the tide turning. Amazing that Hungary have a seat at the EU table. 2
Tamesaint Posted February 25 Posted February 25 12 hours ago, egg said: 65 abstentions as well. So 83 voting with the USA/Russia or abstaining, and 93 voting as they should. That's alarmingly close to the tide turning. Amazing that Hungary have a seat at the EU table. That is what happens when the likes of Russia and China give funding to third world countries. These countries will not vote against the country that feeds them. 6 1
sadoldgit Posted February 25 Posted February 25 Putin must have thought that all of his birthdays and Christmases came at one when Trump was elected for a second term. Not only has he got him in his pocket over Ukraine, the bond between the US and Europe/NATO is weakening by the day. We are just weeks into his second term and already the Western world looks a shambles thanks to his idiocy. 1
AlexLaw76 Posted February 25 Posted February 25 33 minutes ago, sadoldgit said: Putin must have thought that all of his birthdays and Christmases came at one when Trump was elected for a second term. Not only has he got him in his pocket over Ukraine, the bond between the US and Europe/NATO is weakening by the day. We are just weeks into his second term and already the Western world looks a shambles thanks to his idiocy. "Shambles" Good god 2 1
woksaintly Posted February 25 Posted February 25 It does beg the very simple question and that how big a bribe has Putin paid Trump.? 2
egg Posted February 25 Posted February 25 1 hour ago, AlexLaw76 said: "Shambles" Good god What's not shambolic about it?
badgerx16 Posted February 25 Posted February 25 1 minute ago, egg said: What's not shambolic about it? Do you expect Alexei to agree with an SOG post ? 1
egg Posted February 25 Posted February 25 1 minute ago, badgerx16 said: Do you expect Alexei to agree with an SOG post ? I hadn't appreciated he was another dinlo playing the poster rather than the post. I'll factor that in. 1 1
sadoldgit Posted February 25 Posted February 25 2 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said: "Shambles" Good god Says the man who says that our army alone isn’t fit for purpose. Would you say that the NATO alliance currently looks strong and committed? Would you say that Trump’s statements make the NATO countries and Ukraine confident about the immediate future? The fact that nutty nic has posted a laughing emoji tells you all you need to know. 1 1
AlexLaw76 Posted February 25 Posted February 25 25 minutes ago, sadoldgit said: Says the man who says that our army alone isn’t fit for purpose. Would you say that the NATO alliance currently looks strong and committed? Would you say that Trump’s statements make the NATO countries and Ukraine confident about the immediate future? The fact that nutty nic has posted a laughing emoji tells you all you need to know. Our army is not fit for purpose. Plenty on our side seem to say this
badgerx16 Posted February 25 Posted February 25 (edited) 44 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: Our army is not fit for purpose. Plenty on our side seem to say this Which, in part, is exactly SOGgy's point, the current state of the UK's military, whether Army Navy or RAF, is shambolic, as is the state of internal relations within NATO. You played the poster and not the post. Or do you think the western world is stronger and safer since Trump took office ? Edited February 25 by badgerx16 1
sadoldgit Posted February 25 Posted February 25 50 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: Our army is not fit for purpose. Plenty on our side seem to say this So our armed forces are in a shambolic state, we agree. Would you say that the leader of the Western World coming out and supporting Russia against Ukraine in his recent speeches puts Ukraine and Europe in a stronger or weaker position? I think most people would say weaker wouldn’t you? Would you say that Trump’s speeches and apparent position on NATO being more self reliant makes our position stronger or weaker in the next ten years say? I think must people would say weaker given how long it takes to rearm, wouldn’t you? Would you say that Trump siding with Putin within the UN makes Putin stronger or weaker? I would say most people would think it makes Russia’s position stronger, wouldn’t you? Would you say that the backing of the US makes NATO stronger or weaker. Most people would say stronger, yes? Given what is currently happening I don’t think it is unreasonable to say that Europe/Ukraine/NATO have found themselves to be in a shambolic situation since Trump’s election. I’d be interested to hear why you think otherwise.
Lighthouse Posted February 25 Posted February 25 Putin literally offering the Americans stolen material as a bribe for being on their side. F**k me, this situation gets more morally contemptible by the minute. 2
badgerx16 Posted February 25 Posted February 25 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Lighthouse said: Putin literally offering the Americans stolen material as a bribe for being on their side. F**k me, this situation gets more morally contemptible by the minute. It's all about the deal. Putin knows that Trump is morally bankrupt. Edited February 25 by badgerx16 2
Gloucester Saint Posted February 25 Posted February 25 7 hours ago, Tamesaint said: That is what happens when the likes of Russia and China give funding to third world countries. These countries will not vote against the country that feeds them. Just in the Caribbean https://foreignaffairs.house.gov/china-snapshot-project-the-caribbean/
AlexLaw76 Posted February 26 Posted February 26 Ukraine president going to the US mmthis week. Could be the end of the war Imagine that!
leesaint88 Posted February 26 Posted February 26 21 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said: Our army is not fit for purpose. Plenty on our side seem to say this Yes and no. In terms of rapid deployment then we're pretty good and logistically we've always been well set up. Certainly the armed forces are talking up problems because like any government department they want and need cash, that being said, we are understaffed massively in certain units and there are some concerns on the amount of suitable equipment we have available. Just remember, it was us and Dutch marines that managed to 'defeat' the US marines in an exercise not so long ago. We may be small but we certainly still have the talent and power to compete.
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