Russia

[Whitey Grandad]

  On 11/10/2022 at 09:39, egg said:

Its easy to underestimate the Chinese. There was an IT security dude on radio 4 this morning talking about the threat to the west of China and Chinese tech. Amongst what they're doing is trying to introduce their version of gps as a worldwide standard, or at least amongst much of the world. Now in use by 120 countries. He was alluding to a Russian tie in, ie assistance to developing countries ok condition of military bases, and absorbing Chinese tech with constant tracking and data gathering. 

No disrespect Whitey, but it's laughable that people think that China can't produce a chip to guide a bomb.

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This is my specialist subject.

I would never underestimate the Chinese.

[Johnny Bognor]

Nice work

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LOL

[aintforever]

  On 11/10/2022 at 08:49, AlexLaw76 said:

Defensive alliance that likes to take the fight across the world

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Except it has the perfect opportunity to join in a big fight yet chooses not to.

[AlexLaw76]

  On 11/10/2022 at 09:11, Lighthouse said:

Well that's alright then, we'd have wiped out most of their military in about four.

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LOL

[sadoldgit]

https://unherd.com/2022/06/the-truth-about-ukraines-nazi-militias/
 

Would you say this was an accurate reflection of the situation Manji?

[badgerx16]

  On 11/10/2022 at 11:52, sadoldgit said:

https://unherd.com/2022/06/the-truth-about-ukraines-nazi-militias/
 

Would you say this was an accurate reflection of the situation Manji?

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But, there was a genocide against Russian speakers - Manji heard it from Putput so it must be true.

( This Russian claim of 'genocide' is as credible as me saying there is a genocide against English speakers in Wales ).

[Jimmy_D]

I assume Alex is talking about Warfighter 2021

https://www.army.mil/article/245466/warfighter_21_4_concludes_strengthens_collaboration_with_british_and_french_forces

[Whitey Grandad]

  On 11/10/2022 at 11:01, aintforever said:

Except it has the perfect opportunity to join in a big fight yet chooses not to.

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It can't

[kyle04]

A slightly more balanced and considered view :

 

[Jimmy_D]

 

[Weston Super Saint]

  On 11/10/2022 at 13:58, kyle04 said:

A slightly more balanced and considered view :

 

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Nice to see you've found one of Manji's rare interviews.  Lovable rogue isn't he?

[cloggy saint]

  On 11/10/2022 at 13:58, kyle04 said:

A slightly more balanced and considered view :

 

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So this is what Nuno Santo is up to these days.

[badgerx16]

  On 11/10/2022 at 13:58, kyle04 said:

A slightly more balanced and considered view :

 

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If anybody needs 'de-nazifying' it's him

Edited 11 October, 2022 by badgerx16

[buctootim]

Remarkable people. 

Monday missiles and 24 hours later 

 

 

[kyle04]

  On 11/10/2022 at 20:37, buctootim said:

Remarkable people. 

Monday missiles and 24 hours later 

 

 

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Russians clearly know what they're doing though, there were 100's of AFU forces hiding under those roads, a BTG's worth at least. How did they know?

[whelk]

  On 11/10/2022 at 20:37, buctootim said:

Remarkable people. 

Monday missiles and 24 hours later 

 

 

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Nazi efficiency innit

[skintsaint]

Wish our local council could repair our roads that quickly. They don't even have the threat of cruise missiles hitting them at any time.

[badgerx16]

Manji - didn't you tell us they had fixed the bridge ?

 

 

 

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[cloggy saint]

This guy has some really interesting videos. I'm surprised he hasn't suffered some kind of high window mishap already  https://www.youtube.com/c/1420channel/videos

[kyle04]

Dmitri, what are those bumps in the road?

 

[whelk]

I’d like to think we cut all aid to any of the countries who abstained. Should refuse to play cricket with SA, India and Pakistan

 

[Plastic]

  On 12/10/2022 at 21:30, whelk said:

I’d like to think we cut all aid to any of the countries who abstained.

 

 

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most are either Russian protectorates or significant beneficiaries of the belt and road initiative, but yes we should if aid exists. 

Edited 12 October, 2022 by Plastic

[CB Fry]

Manji's been on the internet again 

 

[benjii]

Russia 1985-1999: TraumaZone, Series 1: 1. Part One - 1985 to 1989: www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p0d3kjmp via @bbciplayer

Should be interesting. 

[badgerx16]

In terms of raw numbers, Russia has now lost more tanks, more personnel carriers, more artillery pieces, and more helicopters than it originally had committed as part of the invasion force in February.

[badgerx16]

The permanent representative for Ukraine at the United Nations uses binoculars to look for Russia's supporters......

[skintsaint]

 

[badgerx16]

  On 13/10/2022 at 12:31, skintsaint said:

 

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That only works as an anti-tank obstacle, and even then it isn't wide enough. Infantry trenches zig zag and dog-leg, to reduce the effect of blast waves travelling along them.

[cloggy saint]

  On 13/10/2022 at 12:31, skintsaint said:

 

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Trenches or one long grave?

[Whitey Grandad]

  On 13/10/2022 at 13:03, cloggy saint said:

Trenches or one long grave?

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With conical gravestones.

[Lighthouse]

The thing about trenches is that they act as a sump where cold air gathers. I wonder if Ukraine has any cold air planned in the next few months...

[manji]

  On 10/10/2022 at 19:55, badgerx16 said:

Ah, I see you managed to pull your head out of Putin's arse long enough to post your daily dose of tripe.

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An eloquent piece of political discourse.

[manji]

  On 11/10/2022 at 11:55, badgerx16 said:

But, there was a genocide against Russian speakers - Manji heard it from Putput so it must be true.

( This Russian claim of 'genocide' is as credible as me saying there is a genocide against English speakers in Wales ).

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At least 15,000 killed since The Maiden in 2014 according to UN, no doubt a conservative figure.

[badgerx16]

  On 13/10/2022 at 15:19, manji said:

At least 15,000 killed since The Maiden in 2014 according to UN, no doubt a conservative figure.

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Casualties as a result of armed conflict do not amount to 'genocide'. The Ukrainians have been fighting a Russian backed insurrection since 2014, aiming to re-establish control over their internationally acknowledged sovereign territory. Ukraine has not shown or voiced any intent to prevent the use of the Russian language, or to deny people the right to identify as being of Russian descent. ( And the 15k figure is the total of casualties on both sides; nearly 11k are military casualties, and it also includes the 298 dead from the downing of Malaysian Airlines flight MH17 ).

On the other hand, Putin's SMO is directly aimed at eradicating the Ukrainian state, national identity, and ability to continue to function as an emerging modern democracy.

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[badgerx16]

  On 13/10/2022 at 15:17, manji said:

An eloquent piece of political discourse.

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If I thought there was any point in entering an informed and intelligent exchange with you I might try it.

 

[Jimmy_D]

Russia documented using artillery last produced in 1949 now.

That doesn’t mean it’s completely ineffective of course, but it’s telling that Russia can’t provide anything better than that to those troops despite 70 years of military production as one of the world’s military superpowers in the meantime.

[kyle04]

The insurance should be cheaper, being a "classic"

[badgerx16]

  On 13/10/2022 at 15:44, Jimmy_D said:

Russia documented using artillery last produced in 1949 now.

That doesn’t mean it’s completely ineffective of course, but it’s telling that Russia can’t provide anything better than that to those troops despite 70 years of military production as one of the world’s military superpowers in the meantime.

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At least it is a weapon that has a history of killing Nazis.

[badgerx16]

  On 13/10/2022 at 15:53, kyle04 said:

The insurance should be cheaper, being a "classic"

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No so much turret tossing with them as there is no autoloader.

[kyle04]

  On 13/10/2022 at 16:06, badgerx16 said:

No so much turret tossing with them as there is no autoloader.

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Just the risk of injury from shell casings bouncing around the cabin then. Aren't these the ones with a height restriction for the crew?

[badgerx16]

  On 13/10/2022 at 16:18, kyle04 said:

Just the risk of injury from shell casings bouncing around the cabin then. Aren't these the ones with a height restriction for the crew?

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No, that's the successor models with the a/l, T72 and later, which have lower silhouettes. According to the urban myth the height limit for crew members in these tanks is 5 feet 3 inches, officially the Russians say it is 5 feet 9, but anybody approaching that height will find their head and shoulders severely bruised, and drivers will find it difficult to fit their legs into the space provided in front of their position.

[Weston Super Saint]

  On 13/10/2022 at 15:44, Jimmy_D said:

Russia documented using artillery last produced in 1949 now.

That doesn’t mean it’s completely ineffective of course, but it’s telling that Russia can’t provide anything better than that to those troops despite 70 years of military production as one of the world’s military superpowers in the meantime.

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Who knows, maybe it's got something to do with not having the microchips available to re-stock their 'modern' weapons, so have to rely on gunpowder instead....

[badgerx16]

Robot Wars goes airborne

 

[Sheaf Saint]

  On 13/10/2022 at 15:19, manji said:

At least 15,000 killed since The Maiden in 2014 according to UN, no doubt a conservative figure.

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You've never actually read the UN report have you.

https://ukraine.un.org/sites/default/files/2021-10/Conflict-related civilian casualties as of 30 September 2021 (rev 8 Oct 2021) EN.pdf

During the entire conflict period, from 14 April 2014 to 30 September 2021, OHCHR recorded a total of 3,095 conflict-related civilian deaths (1,841 men, 1,065 women, 102 boys, 50 girls, and 37 adults whose sex is unknown). Taking into account the 298 deaths on board Malaysian Airlines flight MH17 on 17 July 2014, the total death toll of the conflict on civilians has reached at least 3,393. The number of injured civilians is estimated to exceed 7,000.

That's just under 4,000 civilian casualties over 7 years in a conflict that began with Russia arming and supporting the separatists.

But yeah, you carry on swallowing Putin's propaganda and blame it all on Ukraine.

[Dman]

  On 13/10/2022 at 15:19, manji said:

At least 15,000 killed since The Maiden in 2014 according to UN, no doubt a conservative figure.

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Good to see they’ve let mental manji use the computers at the mental asylum again tonight. 

[moonraker]

  On 13/10/2022 at 18:36, Dman said:

Good to see they’ve let mental manji use the computers at the mental asylum again tonight. 

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I do question the policy of allowing inmates unfettered access to the internet.   

[skintsaint]

Would Jesus approve?

 

[farawaysaint]

  On 13/10/2022 at 15:19, manji said:

At least 15,000 killed since The Maiden in 2014 according to UN, no doubt a conservative figure.

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11,000 of which were soldiers and that figure includes Ukrainian casualties (both civilian and military).

9% of all civilian deaths were the shooting down of a famous flight btw 

[Sheaf Saint]

  On 14/10/2022 at 07:53, skintsaint said:

Would Jesus approve?

 

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I'm sure he would if the priest had used a holy hand grenade instead.

[badgerx16]

Russia saying the bridge MUST be fixed by July 2023.

I thought it was already reopened.