nta786 Posted 16 January, 2022 Share Posted 16 January, 2022 This game is live on Sky Sports, coverage from 5pm. Yesterday was disappointing, but time to bounce back. Forster KWP/Tino, Bednarek, Salisu, Perraud Romeu, JWP Stu Armstrong, Redmond Adams, Broja I think despite the error yesterday, Forster will be given another chance. Perraud played well, I’d like him on the left and either Tino/KWP on the right depending on if hes back It’s a toss up between Redmond/Elyounoussi/Tella for me, I’ve gone with Redmond for his workrate even if end product is lacking. Other than that, I expect City to largely keep the ball, but we can definitely get something from this but as Ralph has said before, you need the perfect day against City... the perfect referee, conditions, an opposition mistake etc etc etc Last 5 results shown below: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 16 January, 2022 Share Posted 16 January, 2022 I'm still angry at the penalty decision we had reversed in the away game, I'm sure VAR check was for the red card or not but he ended up changing the decision on everything. Most likely we'll lose 2-0 , need Forster to have one those games where he saves everything and a lot of luck, perhaps a few covid cases at Man City . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddeer Posted 16 January, 2022 Share Posted 16 January, 2022 Free swing, keep the goals against to a minimum and move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Albert Posted 16 January, 2022 Share Posted 16 January, 2022 0-3 loss, hopefully we give a good showing of ourselves but that City team is on fire at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpsaint Posted 16 January, 2022 Share Posted 16 January, 2022 City are absolutely flying so it’ll take a bit of luck and a lot of hard work to get something from this. I’m expecting a valiant 2-0 defeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 16 January, 2022 Share Posted 16 January, 2022 Ummmm. Free hit I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 16 January, 2022 Share Posted 16 January, 2022 Play our normal 'fast start' game, get in front early, and then defend for our lives! Realistically, two teams on completely different planets, so long as we get out without any major injuries and pride intact I'm not that fussed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWar Posted 16 January, 2022 Share Posted 16 January, 2022 Same strategy as earlier in the season. 4222 for the first half, press high, hit em hard. If we can nick a goal or are still level at half time bring on Diallo and Lyanco, convert to a 352 and hold what we have. I expect it to be a defeat, but we could snatch something. We held them earlier this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Albert Posted 16 January, 2022 Share Posted 16 January, 2022 This one must be near a sellout, when I went to buy my tickets about a fortnight ago there were very few left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 16 January, 2022 Share Posted 16 January, 2022 13 minutes ago, TWar said: Same strategy as earlier in the season. 4222 for the first half, press high, hit em hard. If we can nick a goal or are still level at half time bring on Diallo and Lyanco, convert to a 352 and hold what we have. I expect it to be a defeat, but we could snatch something. We held them earlier this season. When in a hole, keep digging my friend! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 16 January, 2022 Share Posted 16 January, 2022 Is this place getting even more stats/formation bores? Who the f**k obsesses about formation when thinking about the game? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 16 January, 2022 Share Posted 16 January, 2022 (edited) And a swear blocker seems to have been added. Edited 16 January, 2022 by whelk No it isn’t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 16 January, 2022 Share Posted 16 January, 2022 I’d switch back to 4 at the back given city’s lack of traditional strikers. Something akin to 4-5-1/4-3-3 would be my choice Forster kwp lyanco salisu perraud romeu jwp armstrong tella Broja redmond Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 16 January, 2022 Share Posted 16 January, 2022 City seem to be doing a carbon copy of last season: slow start (luckily we played them then), followed by an incredible winning streak. They've won 12 on the trot in the PL so far. Any chance we can do a Newcastle and get it postponed until their streak is over and when they have bigger fish to fry (CL resumption)? 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 16 January, 2022 Share Posted 16 January, 2022 (edited) City are flying. 12 wins on the spin in the premier league, since they lost at home to Palace in October. I cannot see them not making it 13. Pin everything on the fact we do not lose many at home. Draw would be good. Edited 16 January, 2022 by Dr Who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarisbury Saint Posted 17 January, 2022 Share Posted 17 January, 2022 17 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said: When in a hole, keep digging my friend! He really doesn’t get it does he. I would go 4 5 1 or 3 5 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWar Posted 17 January, 2022 Share Posted 17 January, 2022 (edited) 19 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said: When in a hole, keep digging my friend! 1 hour ago, Sarisbury Saint said: He really doesn’t get it does he. I would go 4 5 1 or 3 5 2. Tell me chaps, what were the tactics last time we played them and were one of the only teams this season to take points off them? Edited 17 January, 2022 by TWar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarnia Cherie Posted 17 January, 2022 Share Posted 17 January, 2022 Very few teams to touch City at the moment but let's give it all we've got. Hopefully a few free kicks might do the trick. 🤞 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 17 January, 2022 Share Posted 17 January, 2022 Weird feeling we'll win this one. I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 17 January, 2022 Share Posted 17 January, 2022 4 minutes ago, DT said: Weird feeling we'll win this one. I know. Bugger ;) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggles31 Posted 17 January, 2022 Share Posted 17 January, 2022 Arsenal pressed them quite aggressively (pre the red card) and City couldn’t get into full flow. Seems to be the only chance of stopping them. Sit back and defend if we can pinch the lead. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman Posted 17 January, 2022 Share Posted 17 January, 2022 (edited) 433/451/4141 please. Lyanco out for KWP, Redmond for S Armstrong. Edited 17 January, 2022 by Dman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 17 January, 2022 Share Posted 17 January, 2022 City do struggle with intense pressing sides, but I think most sides will get caught if a pressing game is executed to perfection. My concern with City is that they have the quality of player to quickly play around any press, and get straight at our back line with 1 or 2 passes if we commit too high. Defensively we've been much more sound this year, in my opinion. Not individually, but as an entire team unit. There are freak moments where we are a bit crap, but generally we seem decent. I hope and expect us to give City a good hard fought game, likely it will end in defeat but if we give it a good go I can have no complaints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 17 January, 2022 Share Posted 17 January, 2022 1 5 5 for me 😉 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarisbury Saint Posted 17 January, 2022 Share Posted 17 January, 2022 6 hours ago, TWar said: Tell me chaps, what were the tactics last time we played them and were one of the only teams this season to take points off them? Yep, let’s take them by surprise. Just hope they didn’t watch the Liverpool game against us. Its a formation that found us out but thankfully Ralph has finally seen that aswell and things have started to improve, yet you want to go back to it 🙄 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddeer Posted 17 January, 2022 Share Posted 17 January, 2022 1 hour ago, Toadhall Saint said: 1 5 5 for me 😉 Broja up top, 4 across the middle, five at the back and big Fraser in goal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nta786 Posted 17 January, 2022 Author Share Posted 17 January, 2022 This was the referee in our 2-3 FA Cup win over Swansea this month, and also in our 2-2 draw at Palace last month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 17 January, 2022 Share Posted 17 January, 2022 12 on the bounce eh? Unlucky 13, hopefully then. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWar Posted 17 January, 2022 Share Posted 17 January, 2022 3 hours ago, Sarisbury Saint said: Yep, let’s take them by surprise. Just hope they didn’t watch the Liverpool game against us. Its a formation that found us out but thankfully Ralph has finally seen that aswell and things have started to improve, yet you want to go back to it 🙄 Why take them by surprise? If it worked once against them why not try again? Also if we had a formation that worked against all the top sides all the time everyone would play it. It worked against City and United already this season, that's what we should play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarisbury Saint Posted 17 January, 2022 Share Posted 17 January, 2022 1 minute ago, TWar said: Why take them by surprise? If it worked once against them why not try again? Also if we had a formation that worked against all the top sides all the time everyone would play it. It worked against City and United already this season, that's what we should play. There’s a reason Ralph has ditched it. Awful system that would have sent us down if we’d persevered with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWar Posted 17 January, 2022 Share Posted 17 January, 2022 1 minute ago, Sarisbury Saint said: There’s a reason Ralph has ditched it. Awful system that would have sent us down if we’d persevered with it. The reason is we don't have a right back fit so we swapped to a system that requires a right wing back because Tella can fit in there. We had one win, one draw, and one loss since trying 3 at the back, not sure it's time to say our old system is dead and this one has replaced it. We will occassionally play 3atb when the situation demands it but 4222 is a good working system and will likely continue to be used. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 17 January, 2022 Share Posted 17 January, 2022 I'd love it if we played 4-2-2-2 or 4-3-3 againstCity and took the game to them but three at the back is almost Ralph's default setting against the bigger clubs, the aim being of course to stop their free ranging forwards having a field day. Sooner or later it won't work. Presumably KWP back in and Tella to the bench will be our only change; Forster Bednerak - Lyanco - Salisu KWP Perraud JWP - Romeu - Diallo Redmond - Broja Our best hope is for a few free kicks in the final third so we need to practice the dark arts this week. Scoreline 0-3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarisbury Saint Posted 17 January, 2022 Share Posted 17 January, 2022 18 minutes ago, TWar said: The reason is we don't have a right back fit so we swapped to a system that requires a right wing back because Tella can fit in there. We had one win, one draw, and one loss since trying 3 at the back, not sure it's time to say our old system is dead and this one has replaced it. We will occassionally play 3atb when the situation demands it but 4222 is a good working system and will likely continue to be used. We had a fit right back in our last game and we didn’t play 4222. I also doubt very much we will play that system Saturday against Man City. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWar Posted 17 January, 2022 Share Posted 17 January, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Sarisbury Saint said: We had a fit right back in our last game and we didn’t play 4222. I also doubt very much we will play that system Saturday against Man City. We shall see. I think KWP was not ready to start, Ralph said as much I think. Maybe we prefer a wingback system with Perraud too, as we also played it at spurs. I will be very surprised if we don't see the 4222 come out again pretty soon, could be wrong though. Edited 17 January, 2022 by TWar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarisbury Saint Posted 17 January, 2022 Share Posted 17 January, 2022 3 minutes ago, Charlie Wayman said: I'd love it if we played 4-2-2-2 or 4-3-3 againstCity and took the game to them but three at the back is almost Ralph's default setting against the bigger clubs, the aim being of course to stop their free ranging forwards having a field day. Sooner or later it won't work. Presumably KWP back in and Tella to the bench will be our only change; Forster Bednerak - Lyanco - Salisu KWP Perraud JWP - Romeu - Diallo Redmond - Broja Our best hope is for a few free kicks in the final third so we need to practice the dark arts this week. Scoreline 0-3 Foster Kwp. Bednarek Salisu. Peraud S Arm. Diialo Romeo JWP. Redmond Broja 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 18 January, 2022 Share Posted 18 January, 2022 They are due for a crap result so hopefully this is the game. They looked good v Chelsea but didn't create too much in front of goal but our defence is a lot more generous. We will need some luck/great performances for a point here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarnia Cherie Posted 18 January, 2022 Share Posted 18 January, 2022 One plus is that Mike Dean is nowhere near this game. Not on the pitch or VAR. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 18 January, 2022 Share Posted 18 January, 2022 Forster McCarthy KWP Lyanco Salisu Bednarek Perraud JWP Romeu Diallo SArmstrong 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Behind Enemy Lines Posted 18 January, 2022 Share Posted 18 January, 2022 Forster McCarthy Willy KWP. Jack Lynaco Salisu Bednarek Perraud Romeu S Armstrong JWP Diallo Redmond Long A Armstrong Adams Tella Walcott Broja Put some youngsters on the bench for match day experience. Winner of the match day ball os the first to predict the poster that guesses who will quote the above lineup is against the rules, and quote the reference to the rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 18 January, 2022 Share Posted 18 January, 2022 (edited) On a more serious point, I'd probably go with a hybrid 4-2-2-2, 4-5-1, 4-3-3. Flexible depending on with or against the ball. Forster; KWP Bednarek Salisu Perraud; Armstrong JWP Romeu Tella; Broja Redmond The best way of getting a result against City IMO, is pushing up, pressing them, and not letting them control the game. Sit back in a "low block" and they'll inevitably score. Think we'll have a go early and maybe drop back into a 4-5-1 Edited 18 January, 2022 by Saint Garrett . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry_SFC Posted 18 January, 2022 Share Posted 18 January, 2022 Forster; KWP, Bednarek, Salisu, Perraud; Romeu, JWP; Armstrong, Redmond; Adams, Broja. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 18 January, 2022 Share Posted 18 January, 2022 5 hours ago, Behind Enemy Lines said: Forster McCarthy Willy KWP. Jack Lynaco Salisu Bednarek Perraud Romeu S Armstrong JWP Diallo Redmond Long A Armstrong Adams Tella Walcott Broja Put some youngsters on the bench for match day experience. Winner of the match day ball os the first to predict the poster that guesses who will quote the above lineup is against the rules, and quote the reference to the rules. Walcott?? You must be joking, we'll get murdered. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 19 January, 2022 Share Posted 19 January, 2022 Would try 4-5-1 to give Pep something to think about. Pack the midfield, play a defensive but high line press, Broja up top. Probably will make no difference as the Ref, VAR and a much better squad will prove to be too much. Going 0-4 embarrassment with the slightest possibility of a home goal or limiting them to 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 19 January, 2022 Share Posted 19 January, 2022 10 hours ago, Saint Fan CaM said: Would try 4-5-1 to give Pep something to think about. Pack the midfield, play a defensive but high line press, Broja up top. Probably will make no difference as the Ref, VAR and a much better squad will prove to be too much. Going 0-4 embarrassment with the slightest possibility of a home goal or limiting them to 3. Pep has overcome everything that has been tried against him. Very doubtful there are any surprises left in anybody's playbook that will cause him more than a moment's hesitation. We just need to play our best players in a formation that works best for them and ask them to give it everything. We've had a weeks's rest so should be able to maintain our frenetic pace for most of the match. We don't have the quality of players or skill set to take them on head-to-head and hope to get a result so t's down to how long we can hold out and the hope of a free kick or two in the final third. The highlight of this match will be JWP v KdB for MotM. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 19 January, 2022 Share Posted 19 January, 2022 On 17/01/2022 at 16:24, nta786 said: This was the referee in our 2-3 FA Cup win over Swansea this month, and also in our 2-2 draw at Palace last month. Be interesting to see how Mr Hooper gets on, (the easy Valery red aside - where most of us went "oh dear" the moment Obafemi hit the deck) he is one of those refs who lets boys be boys and kick more lumps out of each other than quite a few of his colleagues do. Just test the water early on with a few hearty challenges to gauge the level to which we can get under their skin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piran Posted 19 January, 2022 Share Posted 19 January, 2022 1 hour ago, Charlie Wayman said: Pep has overcome everything that has been tried against him. Very doubtful there are any surprises left in anybody's playbook that will cause him more than a moment's hesitation. We just need to play our best players in a formation that works best for them and ask them to give it everything. We've had a weeks's rest so should be able to maintain our frenetic pace for most of the match. We don't have the quality of players or skill set to take them on head-to-head and hope to get a result so t's down to how long we can hold out and the hope of a free kick or two in the final third. The highlight of this match will be JWP v KdB for MotM. Well, I'll be blowed... a Charlie Wayman post that I agree with. A real turn-up for the books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanimal Posted 19 January, 2022 Share Posted 19 January, 2022 Given we don’t have a game for two weeks later we should use all three subs carefully in the second half to use up time and break up play and use two players in the first half say Tella and AA to press like fury. slight chance then maybe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 19 January, 2022 Share Posted 19 January, 2022 Man City are showing top world class form, penetration and fluency in all areas these days. They are beatabl, but if we press we will concede lots. Best is surely to defend resolutely in the box, and hope to break if rare opportunity comes. Toughen this out for 55 minutes lads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 19 January, 2022 Share Posted 19 January, 2022 Forster KWP Stephens Salisu Perraud Romeu JWP Diallo Tella Redmond Broja 4-1-4-1 / 433. Hit them on the counter, Romeu to sit deeper almost as a CB. Free hit, will probably lose. 4-1 my predo but hopefully better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 19 January, 2022 Share Posted 19 January, 2022 Saints win incoming. We aren't going to lose anyway. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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