OttawaSaint Posted 15 January, 2022 Share Posted 15 January, 2022 Fuck, I'm absolutely raging afterc that. Going for a run to cool off. It's -23C here right now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_D Posted 15 January, 2022 Share Posted 15 January, 2022 Just now, SonicBoom said: Worth watching just for JWP's goal. Unbelievable 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddeer Posted 15 January, 2022 Share Posted 15 January, 2022 32 minutes ago, Saints foreva said: Can't believe Bednarek is still playing RB when we have a RB on the bench. Ralph has been shocking this half. Yes, some of this is on Ralph I'm afraid. Took off Diallo when he should have taken of Tella and brought on KWP. That's before the argument that KWP should have started in the first place. Wolves make few mistakes - we made lots today and were very careless with the ball. Great goal from JWP but you just knew Traore would score against us. We weren't good enough today but I think Ralph was partly to blame. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stknowle Posted 15 January, 2022 Share Posted 15 January, 2022 Well we were fucking unlucky not to get something out of that. Perraud SO unlucky with that header. The freekick was just unbelievable. I will say though if you chuck a bit of play as shit as that pathetic bit of 'goalkeeping' for that 2nd goal into any match then you are asking not to win. For that alone I have no complaints that we lost. Stunningly shit and the worst bit is he is probably our best keeper. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 15 January, 2022 Share Posted 15 January, 2022 1 minute ago, Toadhall Saint said: Was offside from the free kick maybe so, but by a fraction - which begs the question why isnt a CB or whoever challenging the header. Forster will get the blame, but piss poor defending ensured his mistake was punished. Three CBs on the pitch. One of them ought to going for the header. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toussaint Posted 15 January, 2022 Share Posted 15 January, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Warriorsaint said: Two mid table teams. Not a lot between them. Id rather have our team than theirs Their wide players are better than ours, I think the defence probably is as well Edited 15 January, 2022 by Toussaint 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 15 January, 2022 Share Posted 15 January, 2022 Meh. Frustrating result but I'm not too downhearted. We weren't terrible by any means. Overall the performance wasn't as bad as the scoreline suggests, but one or two players didn't do enough - Redmond, Tella, Broja were completely ineffective. First goal was a travesty. Clear from one angle that Bednarek got the ball but VAR didn't show that angle to the ref on the monitor, Second goal is all on Forster. Absolutely hopeless goalkeeping. Pathetic. Third goal wouldn't have happened if Lyanco didn't pull up injured. JWP's free kick was out of this world and didn't deserve to be on the losing side. Draw a line under it and move on. And buy a new goalkeeper who won't fall to the side and invite a penalty taker to go the other way, and stand there looking bewildered when a looped free kick comes into the box. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfc4prem Posted 15 January, 2022 Share Posted 15 January, 2022 Hard not to be frustrated by that. So many what ifs. Both decent teams, they had the rub of the green today. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWar Posted 15 January, 2022 Share Posted 15 January, 2022 We played alright, were quite unlucky against a good side. Shame really, but games like that happen. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 15 January, 2022 Share Posted 15 January, 2022 Just now, badgerx16 said: When was he ever "in" form ? Exactly. Bloke is muck, like Bednarek. lyanco also getting a cult following now. He’s also complete muck. were probably 3-4 players away, as a squad, from being a decent team… but we’ll never be with that cr4p lingering around. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 15 January, 2022 Share Posted 15 January, 2022 Just now, Teddeer said: Yes, some of this is on Ralph I'm afraid. Took off Diallo when he should have taken of Tella and brought on KWP. That's before the argument that KWP should have started in the first place. Wolves make few mistakes - we made lots today and were very careless with the ball. Great goal from JWP but you just knew Traore would score against us. We weren't good enough today but I think Ralph was partly to blame. The five man defence was working ok. I'd of done the Tella/KWP switch but should have taken a CB off if he was going to 4-4-2. We offered nothing down the right with bednarek out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 15 January, 2022 Share Posted 15 January, 2022 8 minutes ago, SaintTex said: 14 goals for in 19 matches for Wolves. 3 goals against 1 match with Saints. Lyanco, Bednarek and a Giraffe in shackles as a Gk. We had it coming tbf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stknowle Posted 15 January, 2022 Share Posted 15 January, 2022 Just now, Jimmy_D said: Incredible, and also unlike any of his others in the sense it swung out to the right rather than being curled/smashed/whipped to the left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 15 January, 2022 Share Posted 15 January, 2022 1 minute ago, Sheaf Saint said: First goal was a travesty. Clear from one angle that Bednarek got the ball but VAR didn't show that angle to the ref on the monitor, In rugby and cricket you can hear the ref/umpire asking for 'any other angles to show me'. Stockely Park pick the one that makes the 'correct' decision easiest and stick with it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 15 January, 2022 Share Posted 15 January, 2022 1 minute ago, Sheaf Saint said: Second goal is all on Forster. Absolutely hopeless goalkeeping. Pathetic. Massive error, but see who is marking Kilman or in that area and how much effort they put in to win the header. We just don't win headers from those deep freekicks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 15 January, 2022 Share Posted 15 January, 2022 4 minutes ago, tajjuk said: I think Wolves are having one of those Pardew Newcastle seasons, bang average but getting lucky, it's a false position and they'll drop down to like 14th next year IMO, you can't score that few goals, rely on dodgy pens, mistakes and scoring with your only shots. To be honest bit like Newcastle were last year and under Rafa as well. No way they deserved to win that or the home game against us, but they have, just the way football is sometimes. Interesting that when we were doing well at the start of last season when we were scoring goals from errors it was because we were a brilliant pressing team forcing teams into errors, when it’s someone else they’re just having a lucky season and can’t keep relying on other team to gift them goals. They’ll drop down to “like” (I didn’t realise this was an episode of friends) well down the table like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted 15 January, 2022 Share Posted 15 January, 2022 8 minutes ago, DT said: I’m off to find a cat to kick If it's mine, let me know. Little grey bastard won't come in. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 15 January, 2022 Share Posted 15 January, 2022 Solid defensive side Wolves. Unsurprisingly, we created a little, but not a huge amount. Sadly, our defensive unit is not as good, athough every player we have is just fine, apparently. No improvements are needed. None at all. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwertyell Posted 15 January, 2022 Share Posted 15 January, 2022 Welp, we made a game of it. Just lacked the quality up front to take our chances and defended a few situations pretty sloppily, and that was the end of that. The first two Wolves goals were a catalogue of errors. Tella losing the ball, Bednarek making an untidy and uncalled for lunge when all he needed to do was poke the ball out of play for a corner; the marking disasterclass and goalkeeper walkabout that led to Coady's goal. All very avoidable, but evidently not for us. Not sure I've seen that referee before, but he was hopeless for both sides. Didn't have a fucking clue what a foul was or wasn't. Let loads of physical challenges go, and then rewarded dives and booked people for shoulder bumps. The penalty could've gone either way - we would've screamed for it for our side - but the fact the referee missed it and had to be told what to do by his superiors was the least surprising moment of the match. Take it on the chin - Wolves are a decent side - and move on to the next one. At least like that Le Tissier vs Blackburn game in the 90s, we can forget the result and just remember an absolute howitzer of a strike from Prowse, who never hits free kicks with that technique normally. He's expanding his repertoire. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 15 January, 2022 Share Posted 15 January, 2022 6 minutes ago, Crab Lungs said: Exactly. Bloke is muck, like Bednarek. lyanco also getting a cult following now. He’s also complete muck. were probably 3-4 players away, as a squad, from being a decent team… but we’ll never be with that cr4p lingering around. I prefered your more cheerful posts after the Brentford game 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 15 January, 2022 Share Posted 15 January, 2022 (edited) A decent contest between too fairly evenly matched teams, they're just better at the back than we are. I thought we created the better opportunities and looked the more lively, Wolves were happy to sit and block the space in the first half. It made it difficult and there weren't avenues. Brentford were a bit naive and left a lot of space, Wolves were clever and they didn't allow us time or space when we had the ball. 2nd half was a bit of huff and puff from us I felt, we didn't have as much of a threat and it was fairly comfortable for Wolves up until that out of this world free kick. No right to score that, no right at all. We were caught on the break and they did us for 3-1 and that was it really. It wasn't a 3-1 game, closer than that, but we just had awful lapses at the back whereas they were very organised and solid in goal and CB. Not sure what we were doing for the 2nd goal, not a clue. Who was marking Kilman? and Forster doing a Forster, flapping in the middle of nowhere. Horrific goalkeeping and that is why he's leaving on a free very soon. We're not going to win every week, we'll have days like this against similar level teams. Let's see what the next few weeks brings, might not be particularly pretty but at least we have that cushion and the likes of Everton are still shithousing it. Edited 15 January, 2022 by S-Clarke 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 15 January, 2022 Share Posted 15 January, 2022 1 minute ago, Chez said: Solid defensive side Wolves. Unsurprisingly, we created a little, but not a huge amount. Sadly, our defensive unit is not as good, athough every player we have is just fine, apparently. No improvements are needed. None at all. Literally nobody on here has said that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_D Posted 15 January, 2022 Share Posted 15 January, 2022 4 minutes ago, stknowle said: Incredible, and also unlike any of his others in the sense it swung out to the right rather than being curled/smashed/whipped to the left. Probably spent a couple of days on it after hearing that Danny Mills had said that anyone could do what he does with practice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 15 January, 2022 Share Posted 15 January, 2022 7 minutes ago, Chez said: maybe so, but by a fraction - which begs the question why isnt a CB or whoever challenging the header. Forster will get the blame, but piss poor defending ensured his mistake was punished. Three CBs on the pitch. One of them ought to going for the header. Fraction or not he was offside whatever happens from there in in is of no consequence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rooney Posted 15 January, 2022 Share Posted 15 January, 2022 7 corners in first 5 mins and we gain nothing. Penalty soft but Bednarek is always involved in these. Two Missed chances in first half and Foster stops and goes back for their 2nd goal .Shou;ld never have lost this. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_D Posted 15 January, 2022 Share Posted 15 January, 2022 Just now, Sheaf Saint said: Literally nobody on here has said that. No supporter of ANY team has said that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 15 January, 2022 Share Posted 15 January, 2022 I think JWP was just totally pissed off so he just leathered it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 15 January, 2022 Share Posted 15 January, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, badgerx16 said: In rugby and cricket you can hear the ref/umpire asking for 'any other angles to show me'. Stockely Park pick the one that makes the 'correct' decision easiest and stick with it. The ref should have said to Stockley Park: "Bollocks am I going over to the screen. It's taken you c.2 minutes to deduce if I made a clear and obvious error and you haven't been able to come to a definitive conclusion, ergo my original decision stands" Edited 15 January, 2022 by trousers 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 15 January, 2022 Share Posted 15 January, 2022 Leaving the ground now and can't help but feel that was a missed opportunity. I know we beat Brentford with that line up but the shape felt wrong against Wolves. We had nothing on the right and Tella gave too much space away there. KWP had to start really. As a back 3 we look disorganised and we didn't have enough up top to retain and create. Redmond was diabolical and we are desperate for a no 10 who can unlock a defence. Thought Adam Armstrong did well when he came on and gave us someone who was dropping deep and turning at the defence. We also lacked urgency which was surprising, even at 2 down. A strange of mix of lethargy, the wrong setup and a feeling of a missed chance really. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 15 January, 2022 Share Posted 15 January, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Chez said: every player we have is just fine, apparently. No improvements are needed. None at all. Weird that there's a transfer thread really, if that's the consensus. Maybe that thread is just everyone saying we don't need anyone. Edited 15 January, 2022 by CB Fry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 15 January, 2022 Share Posted 15 January, 2022 3 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said: Literally nobody on here has said that. It was tongue in cheek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 15 January, 2022 Share Posted 15 January, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, trousers said: The ref should have said to Stockley Park: "Bollocks am I going over to the screen. It's taken you c.2 minutes to deduce if I made a clear and obvious answer and you haven't been able to come to a definitive conclusion, ergo my original decision stands" Owen and Wright-Phillips on DAZN both saying no pen, but if it's that close then it's not an error. Edited 15 January, 2022 by OttawaSaint 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stknowle Posted 15 January, 2022 Share Posted 15 January, 2022 3 minutes ago, Jimmy_D said: Probably spent a couple of days on it after hearing that Danny Mills had said that anyone could do what he does with practice Yeah, we all remember all the incredible free kicks Mills smashed in..............................................well, ok, maybe he just didn't practice. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 15 January, 2022 Share Posted 15 January, 2022 3 minutes ago, Ivan Katalinic's 'tache said: Leaving the ground now and can't help but feel that was a missed opportunity. I know we beat Brentford with that line up but the shape felt wrong against Wolves. We had nothing on the right and Tella gave too much space away there. KWP had to start really. As a back 3 we look disorganised and we didn't have enough up top to retain and create. Redmond was diabolical and we are desperate for a no 10 who can unlock a defence. Thought Adam Armstrong did well when he came on and gave us someone who was dropping deep and turning at the defence. We also lacked urgency which was surprising, even at 2 down. A strange of mix of lethargy, the wrong setup and a feeling of a missed chance really. And JWPs goal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 15 January, 2022 Share Posted 15 January, 2022 1 minute ago, stknowle said: Yeah, we all remember all the incredible free kicks Mills smashed in..............................................well, ok, maybe he just didn't practice. I don't remember anything about Danny Mills at all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macca155 Posted 15 January, 2022 Share Posted 15 January, 2022 Two well matched sides, they have a far more solid defence and play with a goalkeeper. Pretty much the difference today. Once again a baffling decision from Ralph not to play KWP. That cost us and if Tella and Redmond are struggling to make an impact then sub them. Ignore the third goal Saints were pushing for an equaliser at that stage. I don't like all their falling about and systematic fouling but they are definitely a strong unit, so no disgrace in losing. On another day Saints would have won that. The new owners can see where we need to strengthen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stknowle Posted 15 January, 2022 Share Posted 15 January, 2022 Just now, OttawaSaint said: I don't remember anything about Danny Mills at all. Who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemi Posted 15 January, 2022 Share Posted 15 January, 2022 I’ve always criticised JWP but to be fair his general game has improved a lot recently, not even considering free-kicks. A lot more active in picking the ball up in between the lines which is good to see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 15 January, 2022 Share Posted 15 January, 2022 Switch the goalies and it's 4-1 to us... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stknowle Posted 15 January, 2022 Share Posted 15 January, 2022 6 minutes ago, Jimmy_D said: No supporter of ANY team has said that! TBF Chez did. Think he may not have meant it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee On Solent Saint Posted 15 January, 2022 Share Posted 15 January, 2022 Think the worse stat is 10 shots on target and only one goal. Although you could say that their keeper earned the win for them 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 15 January, 2022 Share Posted 15 January, 2022 Subtle enough to avoid another fine...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 15 January, 2022 Share Posted 15 January, 2022 Very frustrating loss. We should have had a penalty. Var is a joke. I do wonder if Saints missed a trick by not appealing more and romeu should have rolled around on the floor. Compare our reaction to the wolves player reaction for the bednarek one. That was an absolute corker of a free kick by Prowsey. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Streaky Posted 15 January, 2022 Share Posted 15 January, 2022 22 minutes ago, Crab Lungs said: Exactly. Bloke is muck, like Bednarek. lyanco also getting a cult following now. He’s also complete muck. were probably 3-4 players away, as a squad, from being a decent team… but we’ll never be with that cr4p lingering around. Yeah until we win again then bednarek and Co are amazing. Ridiculous post! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 15 January, 2022 Share Posted 15 January, 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Toadhall Saint said: And JWPs goal? Taken for granted by me as he's done it so often! 😂 Bloody brilliant hit. Edited 15 January, 2022 by Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman Posted 15 January, 2022 Share Posted 15 January, 2022 Wolves are a very good side, there’s no shame in losing to them. We put in an alright performance just show our vulnerabilities at the back. Could have done with a point given give the next 3 fixtures (possibly 4 if Everton sack Rafa). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yozzman Posted 15 January, 2022 Share Posted 15 January, 2022 1 hour ago, Saints foreva said: Really wish we'd fuck those high lines off for free kicks. Just fuking defend the cross, don't play for an offside. Formation change hasn't worked, it's made us 50x worse. The high line actually is quite effective, there have been loads of offsides. Looks terrifying but works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfc4prem Posted 15 January, 2022 Share Posted 15 January, 2022 3 minutes ago, Dman said: Wolves are a very good side, there’s no shame in losing to them. We put in an alright performance just show our vulnerabilities at the back. Could have done with a point given give the next 3 fixtures (possibly 4 if Everton sack Rafa). I reckon Burnley Watford and Norwich are done and dusted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 15 January, 2022 Share Posted 15 January, 2022 Had a top 3 player (+ Man United) had scored that free kick, they'd probably be nominated for SPOTY, and the faffing over them would go on for weeks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman Posted 15 January, 2022 Share Posted 15 January, 2022 2 minutes ago, sfc4prem said: I reckon Burnley Watford and Norwich are done and dusted. Agreed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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