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JRM

JRM

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  On 06/01/2022 at 13:30, Lighthouse said:

So he wont be appealing the decision?

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It's great, highlights how mental the totalitarian govt in oz have gone and will open the eyes of many more people who are starting to wake up. Its clearly not about health. 

whelk

whelk

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  On 06/01/2022 at 16:19, JRM said:

It's great, highlights how mental the totalitarian govt in oz have gone and will open the eyes of many more people who are starting to wake up. Its clearly not about health. 

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Manna from heaven for you antivax lot. Look what they are doing to poor little Novak? Inhumane
 

Lighthouse

Lighthouse

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  On 06/01/2022 at 16:19, JRM said:

It's great, highlights how mental the totalitarian govt in oz have gone and will open the eyes of many more people who are starting to wake up. Its clearly not about health. 

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Aus is a brutal dictatorship for sure and Covid is nothing new, they’ve been denying me my human right to bring satsumas in on Qantas for decades. As you say it’s not about health, it’s all part of the great worldwide reset to oppress Serbian tennis players.

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JRM

JRM

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  On 06/01/2022 at 18:44, Whitey Grandad said:

It clearly is about health.

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Hahaha haha deporting the world's number one tennis player in case he runs around infecting everybody come on Grandad have a seat and think about that one 

JRM

JRM

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  On 06/01/2022 at 18:47, whelk said:

Manna from heaven for you antivax lot. Look what they are doing to poor little Novak? Inhumane
 

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Not anti vax, it's a clever attempt to label people in an attempt to discredit opinion so I'll give you that. Pro choice. 

whelk

whelk

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  On 06/01/2022 at 19:02, JRM said:

Not anti vax, it's a clever attempt to label people in an attempt to discredit opinion so I'll give you that. Pro choice. 

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He has a choice and no one has forced him to be vaccinated. Having consequences of his choice. Nothing wrong with that

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JRM

JRM

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  On 06/01/2022 at 18:58, Lighthouse said:

Aus is a brutal dictatorship for sure and Covid is nothing new, they’ve been denying me my human right to bring satsumas in on Qantas for decades. As you say it’s not about health, it’s all part of the great worldwide reset to oppress Serbian tennis players.

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Ha right you are, they could test everyday if they wanted to, but it's not about that is it. Must really wind them up that he's not towing the line. 

Do you think Mr Djokovic is going to place the Australian health system under pressure? 

We need more LEADERS like this fine man in Oz 

 

JRM

JRM

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  On 06/01/2022 at 19:07, whelk said:

He has a choice and no one has forced him to be vaccinated. Having consequences of his choice. Nothing wrong with that

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If you really believe stopping a healthy sportsman like Djokovic from entering the country is to protect public health then good for you, wish I was that gullible, must make life easier to just believe all that is to "keep you safe" 

whelk

whelk

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  On 06/01/2022 at 19:13, JRM said:

If you really believe stopping a healthy sportsman like Djokovic from entering the country is to protect public health then good for you, wish I was that gullible, must make life easier to just believe all that is to "keep you safe" 

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Yeah that line of look we ain’t gullible like the rest of them.  Bless your little crutches

JRM

JRM

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  On 06/01/2022 at 19:19, whelk said:

Yeah that line of look we ain’t gullible like the rest of them.  Bless your little crutches

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As long as the govt keep you safe from that dreaded covid they can do what they like eh 

aintforever

aintforever

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  On 06/01/2022 at 19:24, JRM said:

If they must, but by doing so showing the world they are completely f'ing mental / corrupt 

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Maybe, but it’s right the rules apply to everyone regardless of how important they think they are.

JRM

JRM

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  On 06/01/2022 at 19:32, aintforever said:

Maybe, but it’s right the rules apply to everyone regardless of how important they think they are.

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They've highlighted to the world how crazy the policy is. 

If you want to live in a society where liberty is restricted  and your papers are checked for health status (of a virus that for 99% of people is a cold) then it might be appealing. 

Vaccine passports do nothing to "stop the spread" a group of friends went to the Spurs home game last week, two tested positive a few days later, both of them triple jabbed! Others who were double or not at all seem fine. Crazy. 

egg

egg

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  On 06/01/2022 at 19:15, aintforever said:

Pro choice, as in Australia can let in whoever they choose?

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Exactly that. "Choice" ain't just about people doing what they want. It's also about countries and institutions having the choice to set their own rules. We could debate the merits of the Oz rules all day long, but they are what they are, and fair play to them for implementing them. 

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egg

egg

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  On 06/01/2022 at 16:19, JRM said:

It's great, highlights how mental the totalitarian govt in oz have gone and will open the eyes of many more people who are starting to wake up. Its clearly not about health. 

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This bollocks again. What is it about, spell it out. Explain what multiple governments around the world get from spending on vaccines, slowing down their economies, supplementing their populous, etc, etc. The answer is fuck all. 

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JRM

JRM

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  On 06/01/2022 at 19:52, egg said:

Exactly that. "Choice" ain't just about people doing what they want. It's also about countries and institutions having the choice to set their own rules. We could debate the merits of the Oz rules all day long, but they are what they are, and fair play to them for implementing them. 

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Fair play to 'em! Good old Aussies , plenty of other countries good at consistently implementing their draconian liberty restrictions,  good on Iran, good on North Korea , fair play to them all 

Lighthouse

Lighthouse

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  On 06/01/2022 at 19:41, JRM said:

a group of friends went to the Spurs home game last week, two tested positive a few days later, both of them triple jabbed! Others who were double or not at all seem fine. Crazy. 

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Sounds like a thorough, peer reviewed, scientific test, from a very large data sample, with no variables.

  On 06/01/2022 at 19:41, JRM said:

If you want to live in a society where liberty is restricted

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It isn’t, I’m vaccinated. 

  On 06/01/2022 at 19:41, JRM said:

and your papers are checked for health status

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Do you object when a bouncer or airport check in agent asks for ID?

  On 06/01/2022 at 19:41, JRM said:

They've highlighted to the world how crazy the policy is. 

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Yet so many are supportive of the Aussie government for applying their laws fairly. Surely the elites having a different rule to the rest of us is the whole basis of any conspiracy?

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JRM

JRM

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  On 06/01/2022 at 19:55, egg said:

This bollocks again. What is it about, spell it out. Explain what multiple governments around the world get from spending on vaccines, slowing down their economies, supplementing their populous, etc, etc. The answer is fuck all. 

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Control. 

State overreach over every part of your life. 

You enforcing a jab on millions of people who don't need it and telling them unless they do it they can't have their freedoms back . 

20 stone , heavy smoker with a vaccine passport, come right in pal. 

Healthy professional sportsman, sorry mate you're a health risk,  no entry. 

All about health this 

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egg

egg

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  On 06/01/2022 at 19:57, JRM said:

Fair play to 'em! Good old Aussies , plenty of other countries good at consistently implementing their draconian liberty restrictions,  good on Iran, good on North Korea , fair play to them all 

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 Man, you're scraping the barrel with your North Korea comparison. 

The rule is the rule. With that being so, are you saying that Oz should have just waved Novak through? It's a yes or no one. 

Lighthouse

Lighthouse

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  On 06/01/2022 at 19:57, JRM said:

good on North Korea , fair play to them all 

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Ahhh, you mean that brutal dictatorship which basically denies the existence of Covid. Bit weird that, they must be bored with having too much control, like Lukashenko is in Belarus.

egg

egg

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  On 06/01/2022 at 20:00, JRM said:

Control. 

State overreach over every part of your life. 

You enforcing a jab on millions of people who don't need it and telling them unless they do it they can't have their freedoms back . 

20 stone , heavy smoker with a vaccine passport, come right in pal. 

Healthy professional sportsman, sorry mate you're a health risk,  no entry. 

All about health this 

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Control to whom, for what purpose, and for what gain? 

JRM

JRM

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  On 06/01/2022 at 20:04, Lighthouse said:

Ahhh, you mean that brutal dictatorship which basically denies the existence of Covid. Bit weird that, they must be bored with having too much control, like Lukashenko is in Belarus.

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You must be so scared of covid ,and so untrusting of your own vaccine to want to restrict freedoms of other people to "keep you safe" 

Noodles34

Noodles34

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The real issue with Novak is that he checked what he needed to come in and then the goal posts were changed for purely political reasons. He was originally not going and it was the Australian Tennis Association that turned that around. Clearly public outcry (and for good reason tbf) swayed the PM into winning some kudos before the elections this year. I think Novak is the innocent party in all this, I am surprised he is appealing, i would told them to fuck off and never pay in their third rate GS tournament again. 

Actually their PM reminds me of someone else that likes to court public opinion for his own agenda, feel pretty sure we'd be like the goons in Wales and Scotland if it weren't for parties and flat refurbs. 

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aintforever

aintforever

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  On 06/01/2022 at 19:41, JRM said:

They've highlighted to the world how crazy the policy is. 

If you want to live in a society where liberty is restricted  and your papers are checked for health status (of a virus that for 99% of people is a cold) then it might be appealing. 

Vaccine passports do nothing to "stop the spread" a group of friends went to the Spurs home game last week, two tested positive a few days later, both of them triple jabbed! Others who were double or not at all seem fine. Crazy. 

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But you can never have complete freedom, one man’s freedom to walk around catching and spreading whatever diseases they want impacts the freedom of the others to go around without the risk of catching diseases. There were countries that require you to show vaccine status to enter before covid, just like there are some jobs that you have to be vaccinated from certain diseases to do. 

I don’t particularly agree with Australia’s Covid policy but, we are in a pandemic, the rules are there for a reason so should apply to everyone regardless of how well they can wack a ball over a net.

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Whitey Grandad

Whitey Grandad

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  On 06/01/2022 at 19:00, JRM said:

Hahaha haha deporting the world's number one tennis player in case he runs around infecting everybody come on Grandad have a seat and think about that one 

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I have thought about it. Have you? They can’t have one rule for the self-opinionated elite and one for everybody else.

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JRM

JRM

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  On 06/01/2022 at 20:20, aintforever said:

But you can never have complete freedom, one man’s freedom to walk around catching and spreading whatever diseases they want impacts the freedom of the others to go around without the risk of catching diseases. There were countries that require you to show vaccine status to enter before covid, just like there are some jobs that you have to be vaccinated from certain diseases to do. 

I don’t particularly agree with Australia’s Covid policy but, we are in a pandemic, the rules are there for a reason so should apply to everyone regardless of how well they can wack a ball over a net.

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If the covid vaccine stopped you from getting and passing it on you might have a point, but it doesn't, also if covid was actually dangerous for 99% of the population, but it isn't. 

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Lighthouse

Lighthouse

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  On 06/01/2022 at 20:14, JRM said:

You must be so scared of covid ,and so untrusting of your own vaccine to want to restrict freedoms of other people to "keep you safe" 

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This has been explained many, many, many times, if you’re unwilling to take that information onboard I’m not going over it again.

As egg said (one of the many) the gaping hole in all this conspiracy nonsense is why? I haven’t seen any explanation as to any motive which makes any sense. If it makes you happy then yes; I am a terrified, obedient, brainwashed sheep who has been hoodwinked by the Machiavellian Boris. I’ve had my three jabs, got my Covid pass and wear my mask on the train and in Tesco. Let’s suppose Boris gets his wet dream, 67 million subservient disciples, just like me. Then what? What is the end game in all of this.

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JRM

JRM

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  On 06/01/2022 at 20:34, Whitey Grandad said:

I have thought about it. Have you? They can’t have one rule for the self-opinionated elite and one for everybody else.

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Exactly! So you can now see how stupid the rule is, scrap the rule 

Whitey Grandad

Whitey Grandad

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  On 06/01/2022 at 19:13, JRM said:

If you really believe stopping a healthy sportsman like Djokovic from entering the country is to protect public health then good for you, wish I was that gullible, must make life easier to just believe all that is to "keep you safe" 

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How do you know he’s healthy? 
 

Besides, there’s a matter here of the greater good for all Australians and if it sends out a message then they may think it’s worthwhile. Their choice. It’s only a tennis player. There are plenty of others to take his place.

Whitey Grandad

Whitey Grandad

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  On 06/01/2022 at 20:14, JRM said:

You must be so scared of covid ,and so untrusting of your own vaccine to want to restrict freedoms of other people to "keep you safe" 

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You misunderstand as usual. We didn’t have the vaccine in order to protect us from the selfish unvaccinated. It’s the unvaccinated that are spreading the virus despite what you read.

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egg

egg

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  On 06/01/2022 at 20:37, JRM said:

Exactly! So you can now see how stupid the rule is, scrap the rule 

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But it is the rule. Their nationals can show any feelings against the Oz policies at the ballot box, others have to accept them regardless of their views. C'est la vie. 

Back to my ignored question. The rule is in place - should the Oz authorities ignored the rule and waved him through? Yes or no. 

Whitey Grandad

Whitey Grandad

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  On 06/01/2022 at 20:36, JRM said:

If the covid vaccine stopped you from getting and passing it on you might have a point, but it doesn't, also if covid was actually dangerous for 99% of the population, but it isn't. 

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It doesn’t stop the spread completely but it reduces it a lot. 
 

What about the other 1%? Or are they disposable to you?

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JRM

JRM

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  On 06/01/2022 at 20:38, Whitey Grandad said:

How do you know he’s healthy? 
 

Besides, there’s a matter here of the greater good for all Australians and if it sends out a message then they may think it’s worthwhile. Their choice. It’s only a tennis player. There are plenty of others to take his place.

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For the purposes of entry into Australia is your definition of healthy someone who has had a covid jab? Why is a negative test not enough? 

egg

egg

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  On 06/01/2022 at 20:44, Whitey Grandad said:

Their country, their tournament, their rules.

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Amen. Not complicated.

His willingness to follow the rules of his chosen profession, but not the rules of a country where he wants to go and do his job, is a tad odd imo. 

JRM

JRM

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  On 06/01/2022 at 20:50, egg said:

Yep. He swerves any question that highlights the stupidity of his stance, then babbles on about North Korea and Nazi's. Pitiful. 

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OK I'm on board with you now. 

Covid is the danger. 

The unvaccinated are the threat. 

Now we just need to decide what to do with them, without the unvaccinated there wouldn't be a threat...

We've removed freedoms, we've made them the enemy, we just need one final solution and the world will go back to normal, freed from these terrible virus spreaders. 

You're all suffering from mass formation Pyschosis 

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