BotleySaint Posted 11 December, 2021 Share Posted 11 December, 2021 Just now, gammon cheeks said: Lose to Brentford next week and Raplh will have to go! We may well lose. But Ralph is going nowhere. Not even under threat I don't think from the board's perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunglasses Ron Posted 11 December, 2021 Share Posted 11 December, 2021 Just now, gammon cheeks said: Lose to Brentford next week and Raplh will have to go! This is the thing though, we’ll probably beat them 1-0 and limp on in similar mediocre fashion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy the Kidd Posted 11 December, 2021 Share Posted 11 December, 2021 1 minute ago, LGTL said: This is an extremely unlikeable group of players. We were doomed the minute we sold Ings. See I don’t think our players are quite as bad as they are currently playing. Maybe someone else will be better than Ralph, and I think he will go pretty soon. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 11 December, 2021 Share Posted 11 December, 2021 Just now, Saint Billy said: This is what you get when you have a manager safe in his job. Exactly this it's a win win situation for Ralph, if he's shit enough to get the sack he's a winner if he remains he still gets a huge salary.. there's zero incentive time for him and the club have put all their eggs in his basket it seems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKsaint Posted 11 December, 2021 Share Posted 11 December, 2021 We have energy but we have no strategy no brain and no tactics 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 11 December, 2021 Share Posted 11 December, 2021 What a waste of time we haven't done a thing all game. Embarrassing, clueless, gutless, lazy display. Feeble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Streaky Posted 11 December, 2021 Share Posted 11 December, 2021 4 minutes ago, Mr X said: 🤣 they didn't notice it after two 9-0s so why are they suddenly going to notice it now? They will notice when we are in the relegation zone that's for sure. If we go down we could be in administration again with the money we owe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 11 December, 2021 Share Posted 11 December, 2021 2 minutes ago, gammon cheeks said: Lose to Brentford next week and Raplh will have to go! Brentford will be far too strong for this lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 11 December, 2021 Share Posted 11 December, 2021 The only positive I can take from today is that at least other results are (currently) going in our favour. That's about it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nta786 Posted 11 December, 2021 Share Posted 11 December, 2021 3-0 FULL TIME Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 11 December, 2021 Share Posted 11 December, 2021 We need a new manager. And quick 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 11 December, 2021 Share Posted 11 December, 2021 Just now, Micky said: Brentford will be far too strong for this lot. Brentford are too big for us. Can't expect to compete against a top 10 side... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddeer Posted 11 December, 2021 Share Posted 11 December, 2021 1 minute ago, nta786 said: 3-0 FULL TIME Ralph out! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 11 December, 2021 Share Posted 11 December, 2021 We will be in deep trouble after the busy Xmas period... not sure we or RH have the fight 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 11 December, 2021 Share Posted 11 December, 2021 Bad performance. Players gave up. Need investment so we can sack most of them off. Keep Ralph, he isn't the problem. 5 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 11 December, 2021 Share Posted 11 December, 2021 Last min penalty win for Chelsea. Leeds have done a Saints after all. I jinxed them!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BotleySaint Posted 11 December, 2021 Share Posted 11 December, 2021 Bit wierd that all 3 title contenders won with a penalty today. As for our game; decent training match or Arsenal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy the Kidd Posted 11 December, 2021 Share Posted 11 December, 2021 Just now, Pamplemousse said: Bad performance. Players gave up. Need investment so we can sack most of them off. Keep Ralph, he isn't the problem. 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Billy Posted 11 December, 2021 Share Posted 11 December, 2021 Dire performance, dire manager. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceandfriendly Posted 11 December, 2021 Share Posted 11 December, 2021 So it's three of Norwich, Newcastle, Burnley, Watford and Saints. F**king hell 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 11 December, 2021 Share Posted 11 December, 2021 1st Bright start to only then meekly surrender. Second half similar, get a let off for one corner goal to concede an equally bad one shortly after. Struggling to find positives. Tella looked bright. Lyanco looked ok when he came on(why he was dropped is the question) Negatives. Midfield without Romeu looks poor. Bednarek awful. Willy looks like a 40 yr old has been. More injuries. At least we'll have Salisu and Romeu back for the midweek game. These next few games suddenly very big after the failures of Norwich/Brighton games. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rooney Posted 11 December, 2021 Share Posted 11 December, 2021 Cant tackle cant head a ball and cant pass. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 11 December, 2021 Share Posted 11 December, 2021 1 minute ago, Pamplemousse said: Bad performance. Players gave up. Need investment so we can sack most of them off. Keep Ralph, he isn't the problem. He's part of the problem. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 11 December, 2021 Share Posted 11 December, 2021 1 minute ago, Pamplemousse said: Bad performance. Players gave up. Need investment so we can sack most of them off. Keep Ralph, he isn't the problem. Really? He doesn't seem to be a big part of the Solution! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gammon cheeks Posted 11 December, 2021 Share Posted 11 December, 2021 Norwich , Burnley , Watford , Saints ...3 out of that 4 will go down ! Just hope we can scrape 17th place . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 11 December, 2021 Share Posted 11 December, 2021 We've not been competitive since we sacked Puel, and the only spell we have looked relatively decent is under Ralph. I'd rather trust Ralph than some of the names being bandied about... Lampard, come on, he can't coach a defence. There's a reason Norwich turned him down... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stknowle Posted 11 December, 2021 Share Posted 11 December, 2021 2 minutes ago, Pamplemousse said: Bad performance. Players gave up. Need investment so we can sack most of them off. Keep Ralph, he isn't the problem. He might not be the entire problem but he's run his course. I simply cannot see things improving under him. 6 wins in 40 odd games all against dross sides. He's done. At least we might scrape together enough points to survive with new manager bounce. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 11 December, 2021 Share Posted 11 December, 2021 3 minutes ago, Pamplemousse said: . Keep Ralph, he isn't the problem. He can't even recognise that there might be a problem. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 11 December, 2021 Share Posted 11 December, 2021 Just now, gammon cheeks said: Norwich , Burnley , Watford , Saints ...3 out of that 4 will go down ! Just hope we can scrape 17th place . I like how you’ve just assumed that Leeds and Palace are safe, despite being level on points, as well as Newcastle 6 below us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delmary Posted 11 December, 2021 Share Posted 11 December, 2021 Our anger should be aimed at the owners. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 11 December, 2021 Share Posted 11 December, 2021 We'll be fine anyway, we're not going down. I imagine we'll draw at Palace and we'll beat Brentford (who aren't that great) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Saint Posted 11 December, 2021 Share Posted 11 December, 2021 20 minutes ago, Chez said: I've bigged him massively. I think I might need to rethink. Utter shite today. I genuinely had to double check whether he was actually on the team sheet today as I haven't seen him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 11 December, 2021 Share Posted 11 December, 2021 Just now, gammon cheeks said: Norwich , Burnley , Watford , Saints ...3 out of that 4 will go down ! Just hope we can scrape 17th place . Why? Just delaying the inevitable. Life in the championship could be pretty good. At least we might win some games, and who knows could get into the play offs. Much more entertaining than the last 2 - 3 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefizzy14 Posted 11 December, 2021 Share Posted 11 December, 2021 What can Ralph do exactly with minimal backing? That's where then issue is. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted 11 December, 2021 Share Posted 11 December, 2021 My pre match forecast of 5-0 was way off. Not too surprised or upset with 3-0 under the circumstances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 11 December, 2021 Share Posted 11 December, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, rooney said: Cant tackle cant head a ball and cant pass. ....can't shoot with power, can't make accurate crosses from corners or free kicks, can't defend the same, can't mark effectively, can't track runners, etc, etc, etc Edited 11 December, 2021 by badgerx16 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 11 December, 2021 Share Posted 11 December, 2021 Just now, davefizzy14 said: What can Ralph do exactly with minimal backing? That's where then issue is. Exactly. It would be a completely different story if we were playing like this having spunked on £30m players. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nta786 Posted 11 December, 2021 Share Posted 11 December, 2021 (edited) 15 minutes ago, LGTL said: This is an extremely unlikeable group of players. We were doomed the minute we sold Ings. I thought we said this when Ings, Bertrand, Lemina, Obafemi, Hoedt, Cedric, Boufal was here etc etc They aren’t unlikeable, just very lower PL/Championship standard. Edited 11 December, 2021 by nta786 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 11 December, 2021 Share Posted 11 December, 2021 2 minutes ago, Micky said: Life in the championship could be pretty good. Not with the rump left from this squad when all those "Too good to play in the Championship" have left. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 11 December, 2021 Share Posted 11 December, 2021 I’ve stood by Ralph all the way, but I’m close to done with him. Arrogance and obstinacy are traits that I dislike in anybody, so why should it be any different for him? But that’s what we get, week in week out. For months it has been abundantly clear that KWP on the left unbalances us both offensively and defensively. It has also been clear that Tino has a lot to learn defensively - he’s far behind KWP. Salisu and Romeu help to cover that up - at some cost to their own games. This side will not compete effectively until Ralph admits he’s wrong, and that’s where the arrogance and obstinacy will prove to be his - and our - undoing. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 11 December, 2021 Share Posted 11 December, 2021 Let's look at the positives; we only lost the second half 1-0, that's an improvement on the first half. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 11 December, 2021 Share Posted 11 December, 2021 4 minutes ago, Norm said: My pre match forecast of 5-0 was way off. Not too surprised or upset with 3-0 under the circumstances. 3-0 only because the goal post was more effective than Willy as a GK. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 11 December, 2021 Share Posted 11 December, 2021 3 minutes ago, davefizzy14 said: What can Ralph do exactly with minimal backing? That's where then issue is. Admitedly Injuries forced our hand today but in general He can start players in their correct positions, stop picking out of form favourites, make the correct subs earlier, stop relying on his high press game book..........none of these things need backing 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 11 December, 2021 Share Posted 11 December, 2021 1 minute ago, Baird of the land said: 3-0 only because the goal post was more effective than Willy as a GK. That's because its longer and stiffer .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 11 December, 2021 Share Posted 11 December, 2021 Think we’re going down if Ralph stays and probably if he doesn’t, but on the balance of results he doesn’t deserve to stay. We look as bad as the side that were relegated last time around. I don’t find myself thinking anymore, yep we’ve got a chance of winning this. On the contrary, every game we go into I’m thinking we’ve lost already. Would not be surprised to know the players feel the same way. We’re in a bad way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpsaint Posted 11 December, 2021 Share Posted 11 December, 2021 (edited) This season really is just a continuation of our form since January, the writing has been on the wall since then and the board have done nothing about it. I don’t mind losing 3-0 at Arsenal, we won’t be the first team to lose comfortably and won’t be the last, but this is meant to be an Arsenal side that are in a really bad patch and we’ve made them look world beaters. No fight, and no leadership, especially from captain teachers pet. If Newcastle are allowed to spend their new found wealth in January they’ll be well clear of trouble, they’re not that far behind. Palace and Brentford next - I genuinely don’t see more than 2 points out of 6, if we’re lucky.. Edited 11 December, 2021 by bpsaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 11 December, 2021 Share Posted 11 December, 2021 Sadly I think we're just going to be one of many middling clubs who fall victim to the absurd amounts of money the top teams are raking in now. The disparity has never been worse, it is literally impossible for the likes of us, West Brom, Newcastle*, Palace, pretty much anyone outside the top 6/7 to dream of any sort of sustained success without insane investment. Unless football implodes and we go back to money being shared on a more even basis, competition is dead in the Premier League. I might try and abandon my connection with saints so I can at least enjoy the title race each season. *I said without insane investment... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 11 December, 2021 Share Posted 11 December, 2021 1 minute ago, badgerx16 said: Not with the rump left from this squad when all those "Too good to play in the Championship" have left. Well let's face it, we are nothing more than Premier League cannon fodder, totally out of our depth and uncompetitive. Baring massive investment, or a dramatic change of circumstances, surely the championship would be more our level. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedArmy Posted 11 December, 2021 Share Posted 11 December, 2021 9 minutes ago, Delmary said: Our anger should be aimed at the owners. Our anger should be aimed at Les Reed who played a dangerous game of chicken with Koeman which triggered a downward spiral for this club. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob76 Posted 11 December, 2021 Share Posted 11 December, 2021 1 minute ago, Mr X said: Admitedly Injuries forced our hand today but in general He can start players in their correct positions, stop picking out of form favourites, make the correct subs earlier, stop relying on his high press game book..........none of these things need backing Exactly, play a formation to suit the players we have and cover for gaps/weaknesses. After all this time he must be running out of excuses for the same shit week after week. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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