Sarisbury Saint Posted 2 December, 2021 Share Posted 2 December, 2021 1 minute ago, badgerx16 said: Which news sources do you trust ? Good question. I don’t really trust any of them fully. I just try to form a view on an overall view, which can be hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 2 December, 2021 Share Posted 2 December, 2021 3 minutes ago, Sarisbury Saint said: The respected BBC 😂 There you go It's respected more around the world than it is here now that's for certain. Some elements of BBC News are still excellent, the World Service is one of them. It's presented without agenda or ego just how news should be. I sometimes catch the odd bit of TV News but it's quite rare. Saying that, last night on News at 10 they had a sobering report on the displaced people of Yemen who are living in tents in the middle of deserts due to the incessant war in their country. It was a truly excellent piece of journalism. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 2 December, 2021 Share Posted 2 December, 2021 21 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: a few of their shows do alright it seems https://order-order.com/2021/11/23/gb-news-unreported-viewer-numbers/ So in a discussion about the relative trustworthiness of news outlets, you offer a link to an article on Guido Fawkes - one of the most notoriously biased and unreliable alt-right sites imaginable - that doesnt provide a source for its figures. Are you sure you're not Batman? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 2 December, 2021 Share Posted 2 December, 2021 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said: So in a discussion about the relative trustworthiness of news outlets, you offer a link to an article on Guido Fawkes - one of the most notoriously biased and unreliable alt-right sites imaginable - that doesnt provide a source for its figures. Are you sure you're not Batman? I asked a genuine question about who gets the most viewers, and the added to a comment from TWAr. If that is alright with you? Is the information posted in Guido false? Edited 2 December, 2021 by AlexLaw76 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 2 December, 2021 Share Posted 2 December, 2021 9 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said: So in a discussion about the relative trustworthiness of news outlets, you offer a link to an article on Guido Fawkes - one of the most notoriously biased and unreliable alt-right sites imaginable - that doesnt provide a source for its figures. Are you sure you're not Batman? Of course he isn't, AL76 is Bruce Wayne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 2 December, 2021 Share Posted 2 December, 2021 17 minutes ago, The Cat said: It's respected more around the world than it is here now that's for certain. Some elements of BBC News are still excellent, the World Service is one of them. It's presented without agenda or ego just how news should be. I sometimes catch the odd bit of TV News but it's quite rare. Saying that, last night on News at 10 they had a sobering report on the displaced people of Yemen who are living in tents in the middle of deserts due to the incessant war in their country. It was a truly excellent piece of journalism. Indeed. There remain islands of excellence at the BBC but it is a sorry shadow of the colossus that once bestrode broadcasting across the globe. The problem with the BBC News and current affairs output in particular, is that it is all produced, directed, researched and presented by a workforce from a very narrow, navel-gazing self-appointed elite echelon of Metropolitan society. All with the same set of left of centre political views. An incredibly unrepresentative, homogenous workforce recruited almost entirely from the careers pages of the Guardian, or nepotism. This has led to a myopic, arrogant, patrician culture of "we know what is best for you" and this has severely compromised their impartiality. The bias was perhaps an unconscious process initially, but since 2016 has been increasingly widespread, less subtle and premeditated. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 2 December, 2021 Share Posted 2 December, 2021 (edited) 28 minutes ago, adrian lord said: The problem with the BBC News and current affairs output in particular, is that it is all produced, directed, researched and presented by a workforce from a very narrow, navel-gazing self-appointed elite echelon of Metropolitan society. All with the same set of left of centre political views. An incredibly unrepresentative, homogenous workforce recruited almost entirely from the careers pages of the Guardian, or nepotism. That just isn't true... https://www.huckmag.com/perspectives/opinion-perspectives/bbc-bias-tom-mills/ Edited 2 December, 2021 by Sheaf Saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 2 December, 2021 Share Posted 2 December, 2021 15 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said: That just isn't true... https://www.huckmag.com/perspectives/opinion-perspectives/bbc-bias-tom-mills/ In the opinion of a far-left Sociology lecturer at Aston University, on an obscure far-left activist website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 2 December, 2021 Share Posted 2 December, 2021 53 minutes ago, adrian lord said: Indeed. There remain islands of excellence at the BBC but it is a sorry shadow of the colossus that once bestrode broadcasting across the globe. The problem with the BBC News and current affairs output in particular, is that it is all produced, directed, researched and presented by a workforce from a very narrow, navel-gazing self-appointed elite echelon of Metropolitan society. All with the same set of left of centre political views. An incredibly unrepresentative, homogenous workforce recruited almost entirely from the careers pages of the Guardian, or nepotism. This has led to a myopic, arrogant, patrician culture of "we know what is best for you" and this has severely compromised their impartiality. The bias was perhaps an unconscious process initially, but since 2016 has been increasingly widespread, less subtle and premeditated. It seems to coincide with with their move to Manchester. No connection, I’m sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWar Posted 2 December, 2021 Share Posted 2 December, 2021 1 hour ago, Sarisbury Saint said: The respected BBC 😂 There you go So you didn't read it. You say it isn't compared to gbn even though I explicitly make that comparison in the comment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 2 December, 2021 Share Posted 2 December, 2021 12 minutes ago, adrian lord said: In the opinion of a far-left Sociology lecturer at Aston University, on an obscure far-left activist website. How about essentially the same story in the New Statesman then... https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2021/05/robbie-gibb-s-appointment-shows-how-no-10-wants-politicise-bbc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 2 December, 2021 Share Posted 2 December, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said: How about essentially the same story in the New Statesman then... https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2021/05/robbie-gibb-s-appointment-shows-how-no-10-wants-politicise-bbc If you could find it in the Daily Heil, the Torygraph, or the Daily BrExpress then he would accept it. All completely unbiased and trustworthy sources. Edited 2 December, 2021 by badgerx16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWar Posted 2 December, 2021 Share Posted 2 December, 2021 3 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said: a few of their shows do alright it seems https://order-order.com/2021/11/23/gb-news-unreported-viewer-numbers/ I mean, that'll happen if you line up the real money shows of GB News (Farage and co) against the random news24 shows on BBC. That's why it's better to take a weekly average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 2 December, 2021 Share Posted 2 December, 2021 They must think we're stupid https://www.standard.co.uk/news/health/post-pandemic-stress-disorder-heart-conditions-covid-london-physicians-b969436.html There's an update on the Watford fan but not seen anything on Saints fan yet, anyone heard how they are? https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11686/12484874/watford-fan-larry-brooks-taken-ill-during-chelsea-game-under-observation-in-hospital-but-in-good-form Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWar Posted 2 December, 2021 Share Posted 2 December, 2021 3 minutes ago, JRM said: They must think we're stupid https://www.standard.co.uk/news/health/post-pandemic-stress-disorder-heart-conditions-covid-london-physicians-b969436.html There's an update on the Watford fan but not seen anything on Saints fan yet, anyone heard how they are? https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11686/12484874/watford-fan-larry-brooks-taken-ill-during-chelsea-game-under-observation-in-hospital-but-in-good-form Who is "they"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 3 December, 2021 Share Posted 3 December, 2021 7 hours ago, TWar said: Who is "they"? You know the metropolitan elite, no not the Eton Oxbridge educated Tory elite, the other metropolitan elite, them with their centralist brainwashing agenda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 3 December, 2021 Share Posted 3 December, 2021 (edited) 11 hours ago, Sheaf Saint said: How about essentially the same story in the New Statesman then... https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2021/05/robbie-gibb-s-appointment-shows-how-no-10-wants-politicise-bbc New Statesman? Don't make me laugh! That's the Speccie of the hard left. Gibb was appointed precisely because of the bias I described, in order to address it at Board level. He will still find himself drowning in a sea of lachrymose Remoaner tears gushing from the dewy-eyed, pronoun-toting Guardianistas as they choke on their granola. 😘 https://www.standard.co.uk/hp/front/bbc-chief-mark-thompson-admits-leftwing-bias-6509105.html https://www.theguardian.com/media/2019/sep/21/john-humphrys-attacks-bbcs-liberal-bias-days-after-retiring-from-radio-4 Edited 3 December, 2021 by adrian lord Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Bates Statue Posted 3 December, 2021 Share Posted 3 December, 2021 19 hours ago, JRM said: They must think we're stupid Don't worry, I've got a great idea if we get forced to have the vaccine. Just use a fake limb to receive the jab. I highly doubt trained medical professionals will know the difference between silicone and human flesh as they must be gullible enough to be participating in the whole covid drama. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-59524527 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 3 December, 2021 Share Posted 3 December, 2021 1 hour ago, Ted Bates Statue said: Don't worry, I've got a great idea if we get forced to have the vaccine. Just use a fake limb to receive the jab. I highly doubt trained medical professionals will know the difference between silicone and human flesh as they must be gullible enough to be participating in the whole covid drama. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-59524527 Haha fair play to the chap for having a go. I'm surprised there isn't more black market in sending someone to have it for you, other than ticking your name off the list they don't check ID. My biggest concern now they're targeting kids is the myocarditis. Rumours they are going to approve for over 5 year olds soon in UK, an age group that has virtually no risk from covid just leave them alone https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/myocarditis-and-pericarditis-after-covid-19-vaccination/myocarditis-and-pericarditis-after-covid-19-vaccination-guidance-for-healthcare-professionals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWar Posted 3 December, 2021 Share Posted 3 December, 2021 39 minutes ago, JRM said: Haha fair play to the chap for having a go. I'm surprised there isn't more black market in sending someone to have it for you, other than ticking your name off the list they don't check ID. My biggest concern now they're targeting kids is the myocarditis. Rumours they are going to approve for over 5 year olds soon in UK, an age group that has virtually no risk from covid just leave them alone https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/myocarditis-and-pericarditis-after-covid-19-vaccination/myocarditis-and-pericarditis-after-covid-19-vaccination-guidance-for-healthcare-professionals No matter what age you are, Covid is more dangerous than the covid vaccine. Myocarditis has a 1/10000 chance of even mild effects, covid itself much higher and carries multiple other risks, such as long term lung damage for the young. That's why scientific experts recommend vaccines for kids regardless of what random guys on Internet forums and conmen like GB News and Paul Joseph Watson reckon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 3 December, 2021 Share Posted 3 December, 2021 3 hours ago, JRM said: Haha fair play to the chap for having a go. I'm surprised there isn't more black market in sending someone to have it for you, other than ticking your name off the list they don't check ID. My biggest concern now they're targeting kids is the myocarditis. Rumours they are going to approve for over 5 year olds soon in UK, an age group that has virtually no risk from covid just leave them alone https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/myocarditis-and-pericarditis-after-covid-19-vaccination/myocarditis-and-pericarditis-after-covid-19-vaccination-guidance-for-healthcare-professionals It’s not to protect the one being jabbed. It’s to reduce the spread of the virus. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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