AlexLaw76 Posted 3 December, 2021 Posted 3 December, 2021 Be interesting to see how Lamptey gets on. Reason being he is similar to Tino but a few years further down the road.
LGTL Posted 3 December, 2021 Posted 3 December, 2021 26 minutes ago, Weston Saint said: Shocking statistic Our game vs Brighton will be exactly 2 years since our last win without Stuart Armstrong playing (home game vs Norwich). We've played 18 games since then with 0 wins and 11 losses. Especially considering he’s quickly becoming one of those players who plays for his national team more then his club side. 1
JRM Posted 3 December, 2021 Posted 3 December, 2021 37 minutes ago, Weston Saint said: Shocking statistic Our game vs Brighton will be exactly 2 years since our last win without Stuart Armstrong playing (home game vs Norwich). We've played 18 games since then with 0 wins and 11 losses. Unbelievable isn't it. Also quite alarming Armstrong has missed 18 (soon to be 19) games in the last two years. Not a good injury record. Maybe he just makes himself available for selection when he thinks we've got a chance of winning
kwsaint Posted 3 December, 2021 Posted 3 December, 2021 1 hour ago, CAH61 said: Ahhh I remember this well, halcyon days indeed!... I was at the game. Very one sided I remember. Chants of 'What's it like to be outclassed' ringing round the ground.
TWar Posted 3 December, 2021 Posted 3 December, 2021 1 hour ago, AlexLaw76 said: Be interesting to see how Lamptey gets on. Reason being he is similar to Tino but a few years further down the road. He lacks a lot of what Tino has imo. He is very poor defensively, basically playing as a winger for Brighton. Also his injury record is appalling. Very talented footballer though.
Minsk Posted 3 December, 2021 Posted 3 December, 2021 1 hour ago, Weston Saint said: Shocking statistic Our game vs Brighton will be exactly 2 years since our last win without Stuart Armstrong playing (home game vs Norwich). We've played 18 games since then with 0 wins and 11 losses. That is quite surprising, especially given that he was (arguably) our poorest player in the first half against Villa and was well off the pace when he came on for the last 20 minutes away to Watford.
miserableoldgit Posted 3 December, 2021 Posted 3 December, 2021 10 hours ago, benjii said: Desperate times when you think to yourself, "I hope Stephens is available". Stephens available apparently......Bendarek out. Forster Injured.
Vancouver Saint Posted 3 December, 2021 Posted 3 December, 2021 Is it right we haven't scored a goal from open play in the last 30 minutes of any game this season? Thought I heard that from a DAZN commentator on the Leicester game. There is definitely a second-half drop-off effect with us that every opposing manager must know. Is it a lack of fitness? Too energetic / exhausting high pressing early on in games (when we score most of our...very few....goals). If we could play two decent high=pressing halves of football we'd win. Think we'll edge Brighton 2-1. Armstrong and Adams playing on the ground (no point in high crosses unless Broja is up top).
Matthew Le God Posted 3 December, 2021 Posted 3 December, 2021 3 minutes ago, Vancouver Saint said: Armstrong and Adams playing on the ground (no point in high crosses unless Broja is up top). Adams wins heading duels. He even scored with one on Wednesday! 2
disconnect Posted 3 December, 2021 Posted 3 December, 2021 2 hours ago, miserableoldgit said: Stephens available apparently......Bendarek out. Forster Injured. It says on the OS he’s still building fitness - not sure if that means he’ll be on the bench or not… ”In terms of returning personnel centre-back Jack Stephens continues to build fitness ahead of a return from a two-month knee injury he picked up at Manchester City earlier in the season.” I read this as he was probably not available and therefore expecting Lyanco and Salisu with Simeu on the bench?
Vancouver Saint Posted 3 December, 2021 Posted 3 December, 2021 11 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: Adams wins heading duels. He even scored with one on Wednesday! Hmmm, interesting - but that is just one week and midfield aerial battles from punts upfield...his headed goal for Leicester was his first headed goal out of the 70 or 80 he's scored apparently - says it all. 1
Teddeer Posted 3 December, 2021 Posted 3 December, 2021 3 minutes ago, Vancouver Saint said: Hmmm, interesting - but that is just one week and midfield aerial battles from punts upfield...his headed goal for Leicester was his first headed goal out of the 70 or 80 he's scored apparently - says it all. Adams is very poor at heading the ball. 1
SaintTex Posted 3 December, 2021 Posted 3 December, 2021 18 hours ago, NewYorkSaint said: I think we'll win. Hoping to see Moussa back in the squad. At some point he's going to ignite for us. A really exciting player. And it's so great to see Redmond back at his best. I thought he was stunning first half against Leicester. JWP looking back to his best too. And there's more creativity and energy going into set piece planning. All of which gives me reason to take the optimistic stance here. Optimists aren't always right. But they have more fun! Compare: three days of dread/meh vs three days of excitement. Come join camp hope! I am all in.
SaintTex Posted 3 December, 2021 Posted 3 December, 2021 7 hours ago, redkeith said: Forster, S Armstrong and Bednarek all out injured . what the hell did Forster do to himself?
TWar Posted 3 December, 2021 Posted 3 December, 2021 41 minutes ago, Vancouver Saint said: Hmmm, interesting - but that is just one week and midfield aerial battles from punts upfield...his headed goal for Leicester was his first headed goal out of the 70 or 80 he's scored apparently - says it all. Midfield aerial battles from pumps upfield are important. His ability to win long balls, control them and start attacks are a key method of relieving pressure when the other team is attacking as well as facilitating quick counters.
cloggy saint Posted 3 December, 2021 Posted 3 December, 2021 9 minutes ago, SaintTex said: what the hell did Forster do to himself? Splinter in his arse. 3
Teddeer Posted 3 December, 2021 Posted 3 December, 2021 (edited) Wonder if Ralph will be tempted to give Theo a start. Seems he is quite keen not to leave squad players on the bench for too long at a time (apart from FF of course). Edited 3 December, 2021 by Teddeer 1
S-Clarke Posted 3 December, 2021 Posted 3 December, 2021 15 minutes ago, Teddeer said: Wonder if Ralph will be tempted to give Theo a start. Seems he is quite keen not to leave squad players on the bench for too long at a time (apart from FF of course). I bloody well hope not. He shouldn't be anywhere near a PL squad, same as Long. I reckon we'll see Lynaco alongside Salisu. Makes me a tiny bit nervous as they're both a little rash in how they step out of defence, Lyanco in particular. Trossard will as usual pull them all over the place, so they need to be sensible in and out of possession. Would expect to see Moussa come in for Tella, maybe Broja for Armstrong.
Manuel Posted 3 December, 2021 Posted 3 December, 2021 (edited) Would like to see KWP again. Edges it over Perraud for me, despite being on his "wrong" side. edit: or both of course if Livra's rested. Edited 3 December, 2021 by Manuel
VectisSaint Posted 3 December, 2021 Posted 3 December, 2021 1 hour ago, cloggy saint said: Splinter in his arse. Burned himself shaving with his blowtorch
VectisSaint Posted 3 December, 2021 Posted 3 December, 2021 What about Elyonoussi? Last week he wasn't in the squad because his partner had given birth to a baby. Wednesday when he came on as a sub they said he was on tenterhooks waiting for his partner to give birth. So has she had it yet? I'm not a great fan of Moi, but with Stuey out still he is probably our best bet in midfield and he is certainly a lot better than he used to be. What has happened to Djenepo? Can't figure out if Stephens is ready or not, he was supposed to be ready for Wednesday but didn't even make the bench, not confident relying on Lyanco, and with no other CB on the bench. Presumably we'll see the elusive Harry Lewis on the bench. 23 years old and 3 senior appearances, the last nearly 4 years ago. What a waste. Hopefully Ralph will give Tino a rest and go with KWP in his best position, and Perraud on the left (from what I've seen he is decent defensively just seems to lack the abiility to get a decent cross in). Take JWP off of corner duty and let someone who seems able to put a decent corner in take them instead (Redmond (am I really saying that) or even Smallbone. I hope Ralph goes: McCarthy, KWP, Stephens, Salisu, Perraud, Romeu, JWP, Smallbone, Redmond, Adams, Broja (but I suspect he won't). Really need something good to happen this weekend.
TWar Posted 3 December, 2021 Posted 3 December, 2021 12 minutes ago, VectisSaint said: What about Elyonoussi? Last week he wasn't in the squad because his partner had given birth to a baby. Wednesday when he came on as a sub they said he was on tenterhooks waiting for his partner to give birth. So has she had it yet? I'm not a great fan of Moi, but with Stuey out still he is probably our best bet in midfield and he is certainly a lot better than he used to be. What has happened to Djenepo? Can't figure out if Stephens is ready or not, he was supposed to be ready for Wednesday but didn't even make the bench, not confident relying on Lyanco, and with no other CB on the bench. Presumably we'll see the elusive Harry Lewis on the bench. 23 years old and 3 senior appearances, the last nearly 4 years ago. What a waste. Hopefully Ralph will give Tino a rest and go with KWP in his best position, and Perraud on the left (from what I've seen he is decent defensively just seems to lack the abiility to get a decent cross in). Take JWP off of corner duty and let someone who seems able to put a decent corner in take them instead (Redmond (am I really saying that) or even Smallbone. I hope Ralph goes: McCarthy, KWP, Stephens, Salisu, Perraud, Romeu, JWP, Smallbone, Redmond, Adams, Broja (but I suspect he won't). Really need something good to happen this weekend. I very much doubt Smallbone starts, we have like 7 players competing for those two roles who are ahead of him.
SW5 SAINT Posted 4 December, 2021 Posted 4 December, 2021 21 hours ago, CAH61 said: Ahhh I remember this well, halcyon days indeed!... The following season they won 2-0 at the Dell to stop Southampton going top. I was there that freezing cold night…….!
Pamplemousse Posted 4 December, 2021 Posted 4 December, 2021 Honestly think we'll win this. Our home form is decent (for us anyway), and they haven't won since September!
danjosaint Posted 4 December, 2021 Posted 4 December, 2021 20 hours ago, TWar said: He lacks a lot of what Tino has imo. He is very poor defensively Same as Tino then, that's not a dig out or slating Tino but defensively has been very poor especially positional and awareness which is why I'd love him to play further forward in front of KWP
Chez Posted 4 December, 2021 Posted 4 December, 2021 17 hours ago, Matthew Le God said: Adams wins heading duels. He even scored with one on Wednesday! what counts as a duel? Was his headed goal one of those five duals won, because if it was, then the stat is a bit misleading, as it was an uncontested header due to a compete balls up by their centre backs. 1
Toadhall Saint Posted 4 December, 2021 Posted 4 December, 2021 33 minutes ago, Pamplemousse said: Honestly think we'll win this. Our home form is decent (for us anyway), and they haven't won since September! We will go ahead and it will end a draw. 1
LiberalCommunist Posted 4 December, 2021 Posted 4 December, 2021 1 hour ago, Toadhall Saint said: We will go ahead and it will end a draw. I'm worried about today. Think we'll play well, and suffer from the same old problems. Can't pull myself away from 1-1. 1
SFC Forever Posted 4 December, 2021 Posted 4 December, 2021 (edited) Saints to finally score 3 and keep a clean sheet Edited 4 December, 2021 by SFC Forever 1
CAH61 Posted 4 December, 2021 Posted 4 December, 2021 I'm going for a tight 2-1 win for Saints today and I really hope that AA takes at least one of his chances, I think that Che will score again.
davefizzy14 Posted 4 December, 2021 Posted 4 December, 2021 We need to follow up Wednesday nights draw with a win today let's keep it tight and hit them with a couple - 2-0 to us Adams and Adam Armstrong - COYR
danjosaint Posted 4 December, 2021 Posted 4 December, 2021 19 hours ago, SaintTex said: what the hell did Forster do to himself? A suspicious person would say 'is Fraser really injured' Non specified injury even tho epl teams have the best medical staff so will know what's the problem or does Ralph know he'll get slated again if Mccarthy cocks up again with calls for Forster to start, this way it negates that Anyhow roll on January and hope for new keeper
DT Posted 4 December, 2021 Posted 4 December, 2021 No dunk. Good. Broja starts. Adam Armstrong sub. Lyanco starts McCarthy. Oh well. Forster injured I guess
DT Posted 4 December, 2021 Posted 4 December, 2021 Just now, danjosaint said: A suspicious person would say 'is Fraser really injured' Non specified injury even tho epl teams have the best medical staff so will know what's the problem or does Ralph know he'll get slated again if Mccarthy cocks up again with calls for Forster to start, this way it negates that Anyhow roll on January and hope for new keeper Sold?
Charlie Wayman Posted 4 December, 2021 Posted 4 December, 2021 18 hours ago, S-Clarke said: I bloody well hope not. He shouldn't be anywhere near a PL squad, same as Long. I reckon we'll see Lynaco alongside Salisu. Makes me a tiny bit nervous as they're both a little rash in how they step out of defence, Lyanco in particular. Trossard will as usual pull them all over the place, so they need to be sensible in and out of possession. Would expect to see Moussa come in for Tella, maybe Broja for Armstrong. Ralph never makes wholesale changes so likely same team as Wednesday but Lyanco for Bednarek. No start for Broja. Not sure about Tella though because of that overstretch incident on Weds; if not fit enough to start expect Djenepo (for pace). 1
Baird of the land Posted 4 December, 2021 Posted 4 December, 2021 Pretty happy with the lineup. Would have preferred to see Livramento rested for this one but i expect the only way he'll get a break is when he gets injured.
Matthew Le God Posted 4 December, 2021 Posted 4 December, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, danjosaint said: 1) A suspicious person would say 'is Fraser really injured' Non specified injury even tho epl teams have the best medical staff so will know what's the problem or does Ralph know he'll get slated again if Mccarthy cocks up again with calls for Forster to start, this way it negates that Anyhow 2) roll on January and hope for new keeper 1) Why would they lie about an injury to the sub keeper? 2) Hasenhuttl has already stated a new keeper won't be joining until next summer Edited 4 December, 2021 by Matthew Le God 1
Yorkshire Saint Posted 4 December, 2021 Posted 4 December, 2021 19 hours ago, SaintTex said: what the hell did Forster do to himself? He caught something ....
Matthew Le God Posted 4 December, 2021 Posted 4 December, 2021 1 minute ago, Charlie Wayman said: Ralph never makes wholesale changes so likely same team as Wednesday but Lyanco for Bednarek. No start for Broja. Not sure about Tella though because of that overstretch incident on Weds; if not fit enough to start expect Djenepo (for pace). The team was announced 10 minutes ago.
The Kraken Posted 4 December, 2021 Posted 4 December, 2021 1 minute ago, Baird of the land said: Pretty happy with the lineup. Would have preferred to see Livramento rested for this one but i expect the only way he'll get a break is when he gets injured. Yep, I think that side pretty much picks itself. Interesting to see how our 4 at the back matches up against their 3/5. 1
Toadhall Saint Posted 4 December, 2021 Posted 4 December, 2021 Would have preferred JS over the gorilla but suppose he’s not ready yet. 1
Saint_clark Posted 4 December, 2021 Posted 4 December, 2021 7 minutes ago, Toadhall Saint said: Would have preferred JS over the gorilla but suppose he’s not ready yet. Think you're the only person who prefers Stephens.
Toadhall Saint Posted 4 December, 2021 Posted 4 December, 2021 1 minute ago, Saint_clark said: Think you're the only person who prefers Stephens. That’s ok with me.
TWar Posted 4 December, 2021 Posted 4 December, 2021 I also prefer Stephens. Lyanco is handy in a back three but his last start in a back two IIRC was Sheffield United and he was abysmal.
Saint_clark Posted 4 December, 2021 Posted 4 December, 2021 Lyanco is just too enthusiastic at the moment, committing 100% to every header and challenge leaving himself and others exposed at times. That can be worked on. 1
BARCELONASAINT Posted 4 December, 2021 Posted 4 December, 2021 (edited) it really is difficult to be optimistic because Saints let us down so often just chucking away winning positions like no other team out there, failing to win for 2 years when Stu Armstrong has been out of the team and our record at home against Brighton recently. Heart says 3-1 win Saints Head says 3-1 win Brighton Edited 4 December, 2021 by BARCELONASAINT
cloggy saint Posted 4 December, 2021 Posted 4 December, 2021 28 minutes ago, Nick75Sfc said: He caught something .... And then immediately dropped it.
Sarisbury Saint Posted 4 December, 2021 Posted 4 December, 2021 Thats a good line up. Feel confident now.
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