Liverpool 4-0 Saints - Match Thread

[OttawaSaint]

Lol @ the marking. Wtf?!?

[Saints foreva]

More shite defending. 

[DT]

4. It’s going to be humiliating. Their illegally signed player just scored against his old club

[CB Fry]

  On 27/11/2021 at 16:07, Lighthouse said:

We aren’t clueless and even if we lost 9-0 again I still wouldn’t sack Ralph. Our results generally reflect where we are - a 12th-17th place team. Any team who is forced to play McCarthy and Bednarek, who are both Championship level players, every week is going to have issues defensively. Before anyone says Forster, he is no better; stays rooted to his line and goes down like a tree to any low shot.

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No agree. If we can get to Christmas with twenty points on the board then we are achieving what we can reasonably expect.

[obelisk]

That is just hopeless defending.

[Saint NL]

I saw better marking than that in my sons under 10s match this morning.

 

🤡

[adrian lord]

4

 

Looking grim.

 

let’s hope Klopp decides to turn the rest of the game into a training session for some of the substitutes and shows us some mercy.

[Toussaint]

  On 27/11/2021 at 16:07, Lighthouse said:

We aren’t clueless and even if we lost 9-0 again I still wouldn’t sack Ralph. Our results generally reflect where we are - a 12th-17th place team. Any team who is forced to play McCarthy and Bednarek, who are both Championship level players, every week is going to have issues defensively. Before anyone says Forster, he is no better; stays rooted to his line and goes down like a tree to any low shot.

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I’d have him out tonight, he’s an embarrassment 

[OttawaSaint]

Mane and Salah haven't netted yet and there's still Henderson to get his usual goal vs us.

[Saint Matty 76]

  On 27/11/2021 at 16:07, Lighthouse said:

We aren’t clueless and even if we lost 9-0 again I still wouldn’t sack Ralph. Our results generally reflect where we are - a 12th-17th place team. Any team who is forced to play McCarthy and Bednarek, who are both Championship level players, every week is going to have issues defensively. Before anyone says Forster, he is no better; stays rooted to his line and goes down like a tree to any low shot.

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I agree.

I may be corrected but this feels like the first game this season where we've been absolutely terrible. We've had the odd half here and there (Everton A, Norwich A) but we've not been outplayed this badly this season. McCarthy and Forster are both terrible and are a result of poor decisions made before Ralph was even here.

[Saints foreva]

Absolute sitter for Armstrong. 

[Toussaint]

  On 27/11/2021 at 16:10, adrian lord said:

4

 

Looking grim.

 

let’s hope Klopp decides to turn the rest of the game into a training session for some of the substitutes and shows us some mercy.

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Hmm, think they are more likely to turn the screw

[obelisk]

Awful miss. Again.

[striker]

  On 27/11/2021 at 16:11, Saints foreva said:

Absolute sitter for Armstrong. 

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What a horrible finish

[aintforever]

Playing three strikers away at Anfield is just mental, this could be another 9-0.

[Chez]

That is such a horrible goal to concede, CBs that don't win headers...

 

Armstrong has to score there. Woeful finishing.

[OttawaSaint]

Is Ward Prowse injured. There's no whip in any of his corners or free kicks anymore. Hip injury would limit his whip.

[obelisk]

Let's try somebody else taking these corners shall we?

[Billy the Kidd]

  On 27/11/2021 at 16:12, aintforever said:

Playing three strikers away at Anfield is just mental, this could be another 9-0.

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Yeah, I cant quite understand the thinking.

How about we played well at City and Chelsea, let fucking mix it up for this one.

[Sarisbury Saint]

  On 27/11/2021 at 16:10, Mr X said:

Ffs keep it under 5 

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[Sarisbury Saint]

Straight at McCarthy 

[the colonel]

  On 27/11/2021 at 16:13, Sarisbury Saint said:

  On 27/11/2021 at 16:10, Mr X said:

Ffs keep it under 5 

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no chance

[Chez]

  On 27/11/2021 at 16:12, aintforever said:

Playing three strikers away at Anfield is just mental, this could be another 9-0.

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easily. They have had two other opportunities where they really should have scored. A tight offside goal too. It's horrible, but in the end the defeat at Norwich is still gonna haunt us more.

[badgerx16]

  On 27/11/2021 at 16:08, Nordic Saint said:

Aren't our first team coaches Kelvin Davis and David Watson? If they resigned, they wouldn't get a job anywhere else. 

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If they left the quality of the coaching wouldn't get worse.

[Lallana's Left Peg]

The defence carried the team the first 10 games of the season and now they have reverted back to playing as we would expect our wastefulness in the final third is really showing up as a genuine reason we should all be concerned about the long term future.  As well as we've done in the transfer market recently, the one place you can't skimp is with strikers and £10m gets you finishing like we've now come to experience on a weekly basis.

[OttawaSaint]

Liverpool currently have double the goals today than we have for the whole month of November.

Edited 27 November, 2021 by OttawaSaint

[Chez]

  On 27/11/2021 at 16:15, Lallana's Left Peg said:

The defence carried the team the first 10 games of the season and now they have reverted back to playing as we would expect our wastefulness in the final third is really showing up as a genuine reason we should all be concerned about the long term future.  As well as we've done in the transfer market recently, the one place you can't skimp is with strikers and £10m gets you finishing like we've now come to experience on a weekly basis.

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very good point. Conceding to Liverpool is bound to happen, but when you get chances you ave to take them and we've had two or three good ones and failed. Strikers never get the criticism defenders ad keepers get, but Armstrong HAS to score with his chance. Imagine we need that goal to stay up...no lets not do that actually.

At least we have created a few, but the balance of the side is always wrong. Not enough quality causes that.

[hasper57saint]

  On 27/11/2021 at 16:09, obelisk said:

Just for a change I'd like to see Saints leave an attacker upfield when defending a corner.

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I’ve been saying this for ages.

[adrian lord]

We are very much a make up the numbers club now. There’s very little prospect of troubling the top half of the table or having a cup run and nicking any sort of trophy. The sense of futility saps any joy.

[obelisk]

Saints attack totally clueless when trying to beat Liverpool's high defensive line.

[AlexLaw76]

  On 27/11/2021 at 16:19, Chez said:

very good point. Conceding to Liverpool is bound to happen, but when you get chances you ave to take them and we've had two or three good ones and failed. Strikers never get the criticism defenders ad keepers get, but Armstrong HAS to score with his chance. Imagine we need that goal to stay up...no lets not do that actually.

At least we have created a few, but the balance of the side is always wrong. Not enough quality causes that.

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Armstrong has been a very average signing (at best) for us this season

[Chez]

  On 27/11/2021 at 16:19, hasper57saint said:

I’ve been saying this for ages.

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Remember when Forrest left about four up against us at SMS? We didn't know what to do. Is someone like Tella really essential to have back there at corners?

[Toussaint]

Tella has improved us, Redmond anonymous so far 

[Mallagroth]

This commentary wankfest is getting very tedious now

[Micky]

  On 27/11/2021 at 16:21, adrian lord said:

We are very much a make up the numbers club now. There’s very little prospect of troubling the top half of the table or having a cup run and nicking any sort of trophy. The sense of futility saps any joy.

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I'm not sure that we are even that to be honest.   At least the make up the numbers clubs compete and give a decent account of themselves.   We are pretty much in the 'relegation fodder' league now. Just gotta hope to win that league. 

[TWar]

  On 27/11/2021 at 16:01, Sarisbury Saint said:

So you wouldn’t have changed it once you could see how exposed we were ?

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We have, 2 subs at half time is a pretty early change. Thing is, it doesn't seem to have helped. Against a team of Liverpools quality there isn't much you can do

[Saint Matty 76]

  On 27/11/2021 at 16:24, Micky said:

I'm not sure that we are even that to be honest.   At least the make up the numbers clubs compete and give a decent account of themselves.   We are pretty much in the 'relegation fodder' league now. Just gotta hope to win that league. 

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😆 Fucking hell. We literally drew at the Etihad and against United, probably deserving to win both.

[Chez]

another brilliant chance on the break...absolute garbage fro Armstrong. He's had a shocker today. Championship level attacking play.

[TWar]

  On 27/11/2021 at 16:00, Toussaint said:

Chelsea are as good as Liverpool, if not better, I don’t recall us playing 3 strikers in that one?

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It was a very weakened Chelsea tbh, nowhere near the quality of this Liverpool team, as it was the cup team.

As for three strikers, I think it was more a 3412 with Adams playing deeper as a lone 10

[Mr X]

  On 27/11/2021 at 16:21, AlexLaw76 said:

Armstrong has been a very average signing (at best) for us this 

  On 27/11/2021 at 16:21, AlexLaw76 said:

Armstrong has been a very average signing (at best) for us this season

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He has all the attributes but seems so keen to get the shot away that he forgets any finesse or accuracy, it was a gamble to think he could make the step up at first ask when you think how long it yook Che to adjust to this league  

[DT]

Tbh we all knew we’d lose so it’s just a case of how many. Would take 4 but think it will be 5. Perhaps 6. Goal difference may actually be important at the end of the season (not to get into Europe though)

[gammon cheeks]

Has Redmond touched the ball?

[Sarisbury Saint]

  On 27/11/2021 at 16:25, TWar said:

We have, 2 subs at half time is a pretty early change. Thing is, it doesn't seem to have helped. Against a team of Liverpools quality there isn't much you can do

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Not early enough. Why wait until we’re 3 down before changing ? Now he’s changed it, but we’re already beaten.

[Roo1976]

  On 27/11/2021 at 16:24, Mallagroth said:

This commentary wankfest is getting very tedious now

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they seem dissapointed that liverpool havent scored for some time dont they.

 

[Toussaint]

  On 27/11/2021 at 16:27, gammon cheeks said:

Has Redmond touched the ball?

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Barely 

[TWar]

  On 27/11/2021 at 16:27, Sarisbury Saint said:

Not early enough. Why wait until we’re 3 down before changing ? Now he’s changed it, but we’re already beaten.

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You only have so many tools as a manager. Making 2 changes in the 30th min or whatever when 2-0 down has its own pitfalls which is why you rarely see it happen.

[Victor]

  On 27/11/2021 at 16:22, Chez said:

Remember when Forrest left about four up against us at SMS? We didn't know what to do. Is someone like Tella really essential to have back there at corners?

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I thought Gerry Forrest played FOR us.

[Chez]

  On 27/11/2021 at 16:26, Mr X said:

He has all the attributes but seems so keen to get the shot away that he forgets any finesse or accuracy, it was a gamble to think he could make the step up at first ask when you think how long it yook Che to adjust to this league  

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he's played well in some of the other games. Not today though. 

[obelisk]

Tella Saints MOTM so far.

[trousers]

One of Romeo's worst games for us IMO