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Chez

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  On 27/11/2021 at 15:47, adriansfc said:

Other quality debate aside, McCarthy is the most timid indecisive terrified keeper I've seen play in the top flight. He doesn't have the personality for it. 

He consistently looks and plays like he's only in goal because he was picked last. 

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another going after McCarthy for no reason at all. 

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Yorkshire Saint

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If the radio is anything to go by this is as bad in performance as the two 9-0 .. the one thing I dont understand is why we don't reshape, change the formation, its clearly not working. Is Ralph so obstinate or so unskilled ?

Matthew Le God

Matthew Le God

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  On 27/11/2021 at 15:51, Instant Classic said:

Not even sure who could come in for Ralph even if I did want him out...BFS is the only available manager I'd take.

Lampard - No thank you. He's still not done anything of note as a manager and he's trying to rebuild his managerial career to get back to the top so he'd probably be off as soon as a slightly bigger job comes calling. 

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The available managers list is considerably bigger than the two of Lampard and Allardyce. Why have you limited it to just them?

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redkeith

redkeith

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Crazy formation. 

There is no midfield protecting the back 3 , Livramento doesn't have a clue about his defensive position. Just awful.

Switch to a back four FFS and try and keep the goal difference in single digits. 

At least the 3 up front has caused more problems than last week, but that is not saying much. 

And Broja is more like the Albanian Shane Long today, LOOK ALONG THE F ING LINE !   

Mallagroth

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Don’t worry lads I stuck a couple of quid on the 9 against us before the match started and so whatever happens it won’t end with that at least. (Could be more mind you if Alpine Klopp doesn’t change it…)

The Cat

The Cat

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  On 27/11/2021 at 15:48, Turkish said:

Still on

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Just lulling them into a false sense of security. All part of the plan.

I'm at a fucking freezing Sholing watching a so far very drab 0-0 Southern League game. Should have gone to Anfield instead to see our epic comeback draw.

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Dark Munster

Dark Munster

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  On 27/11/2021 at 14:08, Saint_Tony said:

wow 3 strikers starting away at Anfield, don't know what to make of that, could be inspired by Ralph or an absolute disaster

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Disaster it is then. I can see the idea, attack best form of defense. But not against this rampant Liverpool team. I hope one of the strikers is replaced by KWP at half time, and try to keep it below 6. 

ButtikonSaint

ButtikonSaint

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tough half....

really strange line up but no S. Armstrong or Moj, so maybe  not much else he could put out....

I guess one of the strikers off and Diallo in  

We were always going to struggle 

Toussaint

Toussaint

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  On 27/11/2021 at 15:53, Nick75Sfc said:

If the radio is anything to go by this is as bad in performance as the two 9-0 .. the one thing I dont understand is why we don't reshape, change the formation, its clearly not working. Is Ralph so obstinate or so unskilled ?

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Both, he’s a chancer

TWar

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This is pretty similar formation to that which worked against Chelsea. Liverpool are too good for us today. Its a shame but they are one of the best teams in the world, our season doesn't make or break against games like this

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Toussaint

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  On 27/11/2021 at 15:57, TWar said:

This is pretty similar formation to that which worked against Chelsea. Liverpool are too good for us today. Its a shame but they are one of the best teams in the world, our season doesn't make or break against games like this

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Chelsea are as good as Liverpool, if not better, I don’t recall us playing 3 strikers in that one?

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qwertyell

qwertyell

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This one's gone. Take Salisu off to protect him from a yellow card and suspension for the next match. Take Livramento off to save him to fight another day.

Didn't expect anything, and we certainly haven't disappointed...

Sarisbury Saint

Sarisbury Saint

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  On 27/11/2021 at 15:57, TWar said:

This is pretty similar formation to that which worked against Chelsea. Liverpool are too good for us today. Its a shame but they are one of the best teams in the world, our season doesn't make or break against games like this

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So you wouldn’t have changed it once you could see how exposed we were ?

Chez

Chez

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  On 27/11/2021 at 15:55, Katalinic said:

We have been fucking good at conceding from our own corners for a few years now.

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when I hear `The Southampton Way', this is what I think of. Clueless tactics (or a failure to see what i obvious to most fans) from managers and coaching staff

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saint1977

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I find it hard to blame players here, the set up looked kamikaze at 2.30 and if it looks and walks like a duck…

What the hell are the coaching team up to? If none of them feel able to challenge Ralph when he has these harebrained ideas and games, resign because it’s a waste of wages. We could all take home a six figure wage with bibs, cones and ‘being a link between the players and the dressing room’. 

They need to justify their roles after this, especially if it ends up as another 9-0. Although that’s RH gone if it is. Pity as a lot of progress made this term but he’s lost the plot again today and nobody seems to be able to reign him in.

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Chez

Chez

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  On 27/11/2021 at 16:03, saint1977 said:

I find it hard to blame players here, the set up looked kamikaze at 2.30 and if it looks and walks like a duck…

What the hell are the coaching team up to? If none of them feel able to challenge Ralph when he has these harebrained ideas and games, resign because it’s a waste of wages. We could all take home a six figure wage with bibs, cones and ‘being a link between the players and the dressing room’. 

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its easy with hindsight, and I am not sure what formation work for us agaist these, but who the hell plays three strikers against Liverpool at Anfield? PSG and....???

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Bad Wolf

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  On 27/11/2021 at 15:53, Matthew Le God said:

The available managers list is considerably bigger than the two of Lampard and Allardyce. Why have you limited it to just them?

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Because BFS is the one I'd probably go for and Lampard seems to be everyone's first suggestion.

Toussaint

Toussaint

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  On 27/11/2021 at 16:03, saint1977 said:

I find it hard to blame players here, the set up looked kamikaze at 2.30 and if it looks and walks like a duck…

What the hell are the coaching team up to? If none of them feel able to challenge Ralph when he has these harebrained ideas and games, resign because it’s a waste of wages. We could all take home a six figure wage with bibs, cones and ‘being a link between the players and the dressing room’. 

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I don’t think you can challenge Ralph, it’s been apparant from the start it’s his way or the highway

Lighthouse

Lighthouse

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We aren’t clueless and even if we lost 9-0 again I still wouldn’t sack Ralph. Our results generally reflect where we are - a 12th-17th place team. Any team who is forced to play McCarthy and Bednarek, who are both Championship level players, every week is going to have issues defensively. Before anyone says Forster, he is no better; stays rooted to his line and goes down like a tree to any low shot.

CB Fry

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  On 27/11/2021 at 16:05, Chez said:

its easy with hindsight, and I am not sure what formation work for us agaist these, but who the hell plays three strikers against Liverpool at Anfield? PSG and....???

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Definitely not hindsight to say that team selection was inexplicable.

Nordic Saint

Nordic Saint

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  On 27/11/2021 at 16:03, saint1977 said:

I find it hard to blame players here, the set up looked kamikaze at 2.30 and if it looks and walks like a duck…

What the hell are the coaching team up to? If none of them feel able to challenge Ralph when he has these harebrained ideas and games, resign because it’s a waste of wages. We could all take home a six figure wage with bibs, cones and ‘being a link between the players and the dressing room’. 

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Aren't our first team coaches Kelvin Davis and David Watson? If they resigned, they wouldn't get a job anywhere else. 

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Red

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  On 27/11/2021 at 15:39, Baird of the land said:

No clue what Ralph was thinking with that lineup, maybe he just wants another shot at conceding 9.

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The issue I have is fine he tried something different (brave or stupid on your view), but it was clear it was not working within 10 minutes, so why wait until half time to change it? Sorry but I am failing to see how he is improving us? At least he won't wail like a baby this game (unless he's sacked mid game).

 

A more ruthless team and we are truly embarrassed  

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