benjii Posted 6 November, 2021 Share Posted 6 November, 2021 Salisu's long throws are a massive bag of pony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 6 November, 2021 Share Posted 6 November, 2021 They're not even that long. No idea why we are bothering with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuel Posted 6 November, 2021 Share Posted 6 November, 2021 Yeah, didn't really work. Then again, often our throws are a massive bag of pony, long or short. Worth a try. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonaggro Posted 6 November, 2021 Share Posted 6 November, 2021 He's no Rory Delap, that's fo show! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted 6 November, 2021 Share Posted 6 November, 2021 You want long and flat; long and loopy is no good. Nor is loopy Long for that matter, but that's another story. Salisu is medium and loopy. I'm not even sure that's a thing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 6 November, 2021 Share Posted 6 November, 2021 58 minutes ago, Suhari said: You want long and flat; long and loopy is no good. Nor is loopy Long for that matter, but that's another story. Salisu is medium and loopy. I'm not even sure that's a thing. Funnily enough given your post, the only way Salisus throws would work is if Long was on the pitch and was trying to flick them on as he's able to regularly outjump most players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted 6 November, 2021 Share Posted 6 November, 2021 3 minutes ago, Saint_clark said: Funnily enough given your post, the only way Salisus throws would work is if Long was on the pitch and was trying to flick them on as he's able to regularly outjump most players. Ahh. Medium-loopy-loopy-Long-flicky. You might be onto something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northam soul Posted 6 November, 2021 Share Posted 6 November, 2021 I have always thought we are absolute garbage at throw ins. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsland Red Posted 6 November, 2021 Share Posted 6 November, 2021 The problem is we need Salisu on the end of his throw ins. It was evident yesterday no other Saint is tall enough to get a flick on 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWar Posted 6 November, 2021 Share Posted 6 November, 2021 I don't rate long throws in general to be honest. I think they very rarely work and I suspect just popping it to someone and building works better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwertyell Posted 6 November, 2021 Share Posted 6 November, 2021 Salisu's our strongest player in the air and takes unremarkable throw ins. It makes no sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 6 November, 2021 Share Posted 6 November, 2021 11 minutes ago, TWar said: I don't rate long throws in general to be honest. I think they very rarely work and I suspect just popping it to someone and building works better. Go back to the time we had Delap for evidence of that. Didn't we only ever score 1 goal from his throws? On the flip side Dave Challinor used to get Tranmere quite a few. I was at Fratton in the away end when he launched one from near the halfway line to get Tranmere a completely undeserved last minute winner. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 7 November, 2021 Share Posted 7 November, 2021 We barely have anyone that can head the ball, one of those that can is Sali seems pointless to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Kent Saint Posted 7 November, 2021 Share Posted 7 November, 2021 7 hours ago, The Cat said: Go back to the time we had Delap for evidence of that. Didn't we only ever score 1 goal from his throws? On the flip side Dave Challinor used to get Tranmere quite a few. I was at Fratton in the away end when he launched one from near the halfway line to get Tranmere a completely undeserved last minute winner. I remember one away match where the Advertising hoardings were all moved towards the touchline to negate Delap's run up for his throw ins ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 7 November, 2021 Share Posted 7 November, 2021 12 hours ago, The Cat said: They're not even that long. No idea why we are bothering with them. It started at Watford and the bloke behind me pointed out A) they are not that long B) he's one of the few tall players we have who could get on the end of a long throw so why would you use him to take it and C ) almost every time it resulted in an attack for the other team with Salisu out of position 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 7 November, 2021 Share Posted 7 November, 2021 We given that they have only really been used this season - I can’t see what the issue is. As mentioned already our throw ins have been pretty crap over the years, almost - “Oh. right lads just before we have lunch quick sesh of throw ins”. Rory Delaps throw ins were crap when he played here - only when he got to Stoke did someone manage to get them finessed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 7 November, 2021 Share Posted 7 November, 2021 1 hour ago, John Boy Saint said: We given that they have only really been used this season - I can’t see what the issue is. As mentioned already our throw ins have been pretty crap over the years, almost - “Oh. right lads just before we have lunch quick sesh of throw ins”. Rory Delaps throw ins were crap when he played here - only when he got to Stoke did someone manage to get them finessed. You can’t see what the issue is? That our best header and defender is out of position leaving a big gap for a breakaway by taking waste of time not long throw-ins? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 7 November, 2021 Share Posted 7 November, 2021 1 hour ago, Give it to Ron said: You can’t see what the issue is? That our best header and defender is out of position leaving a big gap for a breakaway by taking waste of time not long throw-ins? Yeah I get that - but on the flip side you can’t deny our thrown in general are woeful - just needs working on to make it a smarter play. The other player with a big throw is Bednarek, so you might find that they feel Salisu taking the long throw over Jan because he has greater pace to recover if the play in the oppos box breaks down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 7 November, 2021 Share Posted 7 November, 2021 The fact that we're nitpicking our long throws shows how much improvement we've made on the rest of the pitch! FWIW I rarely notice throw in takers, but what I do think Salisu needs to work on is his back passes. They were often poor and we're lucky McCarthy had the foresight to read them and come out. One of those could cost us one day if he's not careful. There was a marginal gains story I saw recently when Wimbledon employed a substitute coach to make sure the subs were warming up properly before they were needed, as they could potentially be the match winner if called upon. He says these marginal gains can help win football matches, and commented that the 3 players that missed the penalties in the Euro final had barely warmed up when they entered the field of play, which could have affected them mentally. Also Liverpool employed a throw in coach to make the most of them. I'm not saying that Saints should do either of these per se, but you'd think we'd practise anything that could potentially make a difference on match day. Maybe JWP's corners could be looked at as, short corners aside, the ones he plants into the box are quite 'samey', unlike the recent unpredictability of Redmond's, one of which we scored from. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 7 November, 2021 Share Posted 7 November, 2021 (edited) The good thing about this is that when the Saintsweb intelligentsia (aka the "glad I was proven wrong in hindsight" brigade) criticise something, you can bet your bottom dollar that said thing being criticised will come good in due course... ergo, my money's on a Salisu throw-in assist Vs Norwich.... #banterparty Edited 7 November, 2021 by trousers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 7 November, 2021 Share Posted 7 November, 2021 2 hours ago, John Boy Saint said: Yeah I get that - but on the flip side you can’t deny our thrown in general are woeful - just needs working on to make it a smarter play. The other player with a big throw is Bednarek, so you might find that they feel Salisu taking the long throw over Jan because he has greater pace to recover if the play in the oppos box breaks down. Problem I had with it was we were 1 up and didn’t need him to take one in last 5 and risk anything like we did. If he needs to take one when we are winning comfortably then great his job is defence and he is bloody good at it no need for him to leave his position when it tight 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 2 December, 2021 Author Share Posted 2 December, 2021 Innit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 2 December, 2021 Share Posted 2 December, 2021 1 hour ago, benjii said: Innit! Exactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 5 December, 2021 Share Posted 5 December, 2021 Still crap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 16 December, 2021 Share Posted 16 December, 2021 The throws were hilariously bad last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 16 December, 2021 Share Posted 16 December, 2021 1 hour ago, AlexLaw76 said: The throws were hilariously bad last night. Not sure why we bother, it offers nothing. Might as well do a short throw to the corner flag and at least play for a corner or something. I'm not sure what Salisu shows in training, but i've seen nothing in game that suggests he should go out of position to produce a throw in that achieves nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 16 December, 2021 Share Posted 16 December, 2021 It's not even a long throw, it barely makes the penalty area, where it usually get cleared by a defender. Seriously, why do we persist with this it's pathetically bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Reece Posted 16 December, 2021 Share Posted 16 December, 2021 22 minutes ago, Turkish said: It's not even a long throw, it barely makes the penalty area, where it usually get cleared by a defender. Seriously, why do we persist with this it's pathetically bad The commentators on BT even picked up on this last night. No idea why we keep trying. 🤦🏻♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 16 December, 2021 Share Posted 16 December, 2021 19 minutes ago, Saint-Reece said: The commentators on BT even picked up on this last night. No idea why we keep trying. 🤦🏻♂️ The first throw or so, Nigel Spackman (I think) was talking up Salisu's big throw - clearly never seen it before, and just talking up the moment given it is strange that your CB takes a long attacking throw. Soon after, you could tell Spackman was puzzled why on earth it was still happening. 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 16 December, 2021 Share Posted 16 December, 2021 1 minute ago, AlexLaw76 said: The first throw or so, Nigel Spackman (I think) was talking up Salisu's big throw - clearly never seen it before, and just talking up the moment given it is strange that your CB takes a long attacking throw. Soon after, you could tell Spackman was puzzled why on earth it was still happening. 🤣 Would it be fair to say our XG from Salisus throw ins are 0? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 16 December, 2021 Share Posted 16 December, 2021 It's becoming so silly that I hope we persist just for the random chance that a defender messes up and flicks it on to one of our players who manages to bundle it home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 17 December, 2021 Share Posted 17 December, 2021 (edited) It is rediculous in the extreme that our one reasonable defender gets 40 yds out of position to take a not particularly good throw, especially when we are not that good defensively. We are awful at throw ins. It's almost that nobody except the full backs or Salisu are allowed to take them. The theory seems to be let the opponents get ten outfield players goal side and tight marking before we take the throw and then mostly gift it to the opponents. IMO the nearest player should grab the ball and throw it forward if possible to the nearest unmarked player as quickly as possible. Otherwise down the line and try and force another throw. Edited 17 December, 2021 by derry 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Matty 76 Posted 17 December, 2021 Share Posted 17 December, 2021 We must have one of the smallest teams in the league. Why we insist on more opportunities where we aerially put the ball into the box, without one of our actually tall players, is beyond me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekelund Posted 17 December, 2021 Share Posted 17 December, 2021 😂 they’re fucking awful aren’t they Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rooney Posted 18 December, 2021 Share Posted 18 December, 2021 The more he practices and takes, the better he will become. Just like JWP with his free kicks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 18 December, 2021 Share Posted 18 December, 2021 55 minutes ago, rooney said: The more he practices and takes, the better he will become. Just like JWP with his free kicks. Practise on the training ground then, not by giving the ball away every time on a match. At least JWPs free kicks made the goal, Salisu “long” throw in hardly make the penalty area Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 18 December, 2021 Share Posted 18 December, 2021 1 hour ago, Turkish said: Practise on the training ground then, not by giving the ball away every time on a match. At least JWPs free kicks made the goal, Salisu “long” throw in hardly make the penalty area Isn't he young though..........? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roo1976 Posted 18 December, 2021 Share Posted 18 December, 2021 On 06/11/2021 at 23:02, TWar said: I don't rate long throws in general to be honest. I think they very rarely work and I suspect just popping it to someone and building works better. Just like JWP corners, how many "set pieces" does he actually take that cause an issue?...........................very bloody few ,yet its the same old boring commentators thing to drag up................if there's anyone you'd have a set piece delivery its him,errrrrrrr no he doesn't cause any problems with them otherwise wed be scoring from them more often than EVER? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 18 December, 2021 Share Posted 18 December, 2021 Rory Delap I feel for Stoke was so effective partly down to reputation, they struck the fear of god into the defending team. Salisu has the opposite effect. Bin them off immediately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevy777_x Posted 19 December, 2021 Share Posted 19 December, 2021 Its another brilliant Dave Watson idea 🤦🏻♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 28 December, 2021 Author Share Posted 28 December, 2021 Fucking claaaassssss! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 28 December, 2021 Share Posted 28 December, 2021 It worked today... 1st goal from one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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