Saints 1-0 Villa - Match Thread

[CB Fry]

I am seeing some absolutely unreal news about McGinn.

[miserableoldgit]

1 hour ago, nta786 said:

Just an observation, but I thought PL rules for away game allocations is either 10% of stadium capacity or max. 3,000.

Slightly frustrating then to see Villa receive a 3,344 allocation per their website (which they have sold out) 

 

Official stadium capacity is 32,505 I believe, so 10% of that is not far out I suppose.

[whelk]

21 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

Yes. This post on Saints Web: McGinn isn’t suspended.

This needs clarifying. Is he or is he not suspended? Maybe he was one of COVID cases Dean Smith didn’t want to elaborate on?

[goodymatt]

1 minute ago, whelk said:

This needs clarifying. Is he or is he not suspended? Maybe he was one of COVID cases Dean Smith didn’t want to elaborate on?

I’ve just checked each Villa PL game on Flash Scores. 4 yellows total including today, so not suspended unfortunately.

[revolution saint]

7 minutes ago, goodymatt said:

I’ve just checked each Villa PL game on Flash Scores. 4 yellows total including today, so not suspended unfortunately.

Great, thanks for confirming. Feeling quite confident now 

[The Cat]

McGinn wears suspenders is the rumour I heard. Must have been misinterpreted on here.

[Sheaf Saint]

11 minutes ago, goodymatt said:

I’ve just checked each Villa PL game on Flash Scores. 4 yellows total including today, so not suspended unfortunately.

Isn't it about time you changed your avatar? 😉

[goodymatt]

1 hour ago, Sheaf Saint said:

Isn't it about time you changed your avatar? 😉

Absolutely. I did try as soon as Danny jumped ship, but I think you need to be a full member to change avatar these days… Might have to just pay the £5 fine!

[skintsaint]

Quick look at their forum, the keeper, manager and Targett getting a bashing at the moment. 

[Dark Munster]

1 hour ago, skintsaint said:

Quick look at their forum, the keeper, manager and Targett getting a bashing at the moment. 

Any mention about McGinn's possible suspension?

[Wurzel]

I've heard there's a grudge carried over from a previous game, and Romeu will ensure that first opportunity he gets McGinn will be upended .

[Sheaf Saint]

6 hours ago, skintsaint said:

Quick look at their forum, the keeper, manager and Targett getting a bashing at the moment. 

The vitriol on the Targett thread is quite something.

He's clearly a weak link in their defence at the moment. Will be interesting to see how well he copes with Tino's marauding runs from deep on Friday.

[jawillwill]

Wasn't Targett their player of the season last year?

[LuckyNumber7]

All those who were saying we were wrong to get rid of Targett have gone very quiet. Never looked a good PL defender to me, tries hard but his lack of pace really hurts him.

Still think we did brilliantly to get £15M.

[Sheaf Saint]

11 hours ago, goodymatt said:

Absolutely. I did try as soon as Danny jumped ship, but I think you need to be a full member to change avatar these days… Might have to just pay the £5 fine!

Come on mods. Don't make the man have to pay a fiver to get rid of DI's mug on every post he makes!

[Jeremy Corbyn]

32 minutes ago, LuckyNumber7 said:

All those who were saying we were wrong to get rid of Targett have gone very quiet. Never looked a good PL defender to me, tries hard but his lack of pace really hurts him.

Still think we did brilliantly to get £15M.

Whilst I agree £15M was a lot, he started all 38 games for a team that finished 11th last season, he's clearly good enough for the PL. 

[DT]

Anyone know if Ings has COVID and will therefore be out? There were suggestions yesterday that he or one other have COVID-related issues, which was why he didn't play yesterday. Here's hoping (but that he's okay, obvs)

[revolution saint]

3 minutes ago, DT said:

Anyone know if Ings has COVID and will therefore be out? There were suggestions yesterday that he or one other have COVID-related issues, which was why he didn't play yesterday. Here's hoping (but that he's okay, obvs)

Didn’t he have COVID last season? Not that he can’t catch it twice but would have thought it unlikely 

[Toadhall Saint]

7 minutes ago, DT said:

Anyone know if Ings has COVID and will therefore be out? There were suggestions yesterday that he or one other have COVID-related issues, which was why he didn't play yesterday. Here's hoping (but that he's okay, obvs)

Thought there was a post earlier suggesting a muscle tear or something- not Covid-19 tho

[Yozzman]

1 hour ago, Toadhall Saint said:

Thought there was a post earlier suggesting a muscle tear or something- not Covid-19 tho

Ings is a hamstring injury and Luiz is Covid related.

[Ldnsaint]

Have to target Targett with Tino and Stu. 

Should be a really good game I think, would still be happy with a point 

[St Louis]

16 minutes ago, Ldnsaint said:

Should be a really good game I think, would still be happy with a point 

It's funny how expectations can change over a few weeks.
A month ago I would have been happy with a point, but after the month we've had and they've had, I would be disappointed now if we didn't win this one.
And dare we dream, but the Norwich game next up looks very winnable too. Its the optimism that kills you!

[Saint Keef]

Fish without Chips. Morcambe without Wise. Beatles without Lennon. Villa without Grealish. None of it really works does it. 

[Baird of the land]

30 minutes ago, Ldnsaint said:

Have to target Targett with Tino and Stu. 

Should be a really good game I think, would still be happy with a point 

Perhaps we could bring in Tella for Mo and play him on the right.

 

[TWar]

50 minutes ago, Baird of the land said:

Perhaps we could bring in Tella for Mo and play him on the right.

 

Great shout this, or move Djenepo over. Two fast dribbling players in Livra and Djenepo against Targett, they will have a field day.

[Toadhall Saint]

1 hour ago, Yozzman said:

Ings is a hamstring injury and Luiz is Covid related.

👍

[Teddeer]

1 hour ago, St Louis said:

It's funny how expectations can change over a few weeks.
A month ago I would have been happy with a point, but after the month we've had and they've had, I would be disappointed now if we didn't win this one.
And dare we dream, but the Norwich game next up looks very winnable too. Its the optimism that kills you!

4 points from the next two games would be very acceptable and anything above that is a bonus. Having said that they are two fixtures we should be hoping to win given current form and circumstances.  17 points from 12 games would put us in dreamland!

[saint1977]

1 hour ago, Yozzman said:

Ings is a hamstring injury and Luiz is Covid related.

Yep, our concerns were about his knees but he only had only knee problem, a minor one at Villa ironically. Hamstrings he seemed to have 3-4 episodes of IIRC so I’d be surprised if we saw him Friday given his history of them given he has only seemingly just done it. Luis will be on protocols so if it’s less than 14 days from diagnosis he will be isolating.

Watched their game yesterday, hope JWP brings his shooting boots as the closing down from range was slack. Targett had a dreadful game and should have been sent off for a horrible forearm smash on Fornals (I think) which he only got away with as the move ended in another goal. 

[whelk]

10 minutes ago, saint1977 said:

Yep, our concerns were about his knees but he only had only knee problem, a minor one at Villa ironically. Hamstrings he seemed to have 3-4 episodes of IIRC so I’d be surprised if we saw him Friday given his history of them given he has only seemingly just done it. Luis will be on protocols so if it’s less than 14 days from diagnosis he will be isolating.

Watched their game yesterday, hope JWP brings his shooting boots as the closing down from range was slack. Targett had a dreadful game and should have been sent off for a horrible forearm smash on Fornals (I think) which he only got away with as the move ended in another goal. 

Wasn’t Targett with forearm. Was Hause

[whelk]

15 minutes ago, Teddeer said:

4 points from the next two games would be very acceptable and anything above that is a bonus. Having said that they are two fixtures we should be hoping to win given current form and circumstances.  17 points from 12 games would put us in dreamland!

Got to be 6 points. Both very winnable games. Never better time to play Villa and put them to the sword - which means 1-0 when Saints 

[saint1977]

2 minutes ago, whelk said:

Wasn’t Targett with forearm. Was Hause

Apologies, I stand corrected. Hause should be taken to task about that retrospectively, horrendous and very out of control. 

[Sheaf Saint]

Better hope nobody tackles Nakamba too hard. He looks quite fragile 😂

 

 

[Sheaf Saint]

14 minutes ago, saint1977 said:

Apologies, I stand corrected. Hause should be taken to task about that retrospectively, horrendous and very out of control. 

I agree, but I don't think the rules allow for a retrospective punishment when the ref has already given a yellow card AND reviewed it on VAR.

[whelk]

10 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said:

Better hope nobody tackles Nakamba too hard. He looks quite fragile 😂

 

 

Yeah quite pathetic. He might roll bit further when Rom hits him

[cloggy saint]

Don't touch Mcginn either as he'll drop like a sack of shite.

[HarvSFC]

Targett was serviceable when he had Grealish in front of him, as his only job was to defend, rarely getting beyond the halfway line and giving the ball to Grealish and letting him run with it. Now, he's expected to contribute something up the field, which we know is a weakness, as he has no pace and used to just turn back with us and he also doesn't have any defensive protection from Bailly, etc, again leaving him exposed and we know him to be a limited defender.

Last season when we beat them 4-3 we had a lot of joy down their left. Our first goal being from a free-kick that Targett gave away and our third coming from a new Poland international Cash handball (that was actually given), otherwise we'd have been through, as he was the only Aston Villa defender in the area, as both Mings and Konsa were dragged out wide, as Targett was caught up the field.

Hopefully more of the same on Friday. We did well to get £15m and Adams for him. Then they tried going cheap for JWP! 

[cloggy saint]

I can't think of a 'weird' goal that Macca has conceded this season, he's been very solid.

[Chewy]

37 minutes ago, cloggy saint said:

Don't touch Mcginn either as he'll drop like a sack of shite.

Isn’t he suspended anyway? Sure I read that somewhere 

[cloggy saint]

4 minutes ago, Chewy said:

Isn’t he suspended anyway? Sure I read that somewhere 

No, he's free to play.

[saintwbu]

Targett was very good for Fulham, but also as it happens played with Sessegnon in front of him, which was his best period too. Seems like he doubles up well as a foil/support for a good winger, but struggles without that connection.

[qwertyell]

11 minutes ago, saintwbu said:

Targett was very good for Fulham, but also as it happens played with Sessegnon in front of him, which was his best period too. Seems like he doubles up well as a foil/support for a good winger, but struggles without that connection.

And also was in the Championship.

[eurosaint]

Looks like we need to target Targett 😉

[LiberalCommunist]

Targett hasn't just suddenly become crap over night, but there are a few things that are aiding his regression. 

Grealish going piles far more pressure on him to push forward and help create, which is a massive risk with his lack of pace. Their keeper Martinez has suddenly realised he's not quite top draw after one of the best 1st seasons at a club like Villa. Add to that the pressure of the crowds being back, and that is now having a massive impact on the performances. Dean Smith has done a exceptional job there, getting promoted and staying up against the odds (a bit of thanks to the faulty hawkeye system), and now that's seems to have gone by the wayside, as they bay for blood. Could they do better, yes, but boy could they do worse. The next game is crucial. Lets hope we can bid him a fond fairwell! 

😇

 

[Pamplemousse]

McGinn is suspended

 

I'm ITK

[egg]

1 hour ago, eurosaint said:

Looks like we need to target Targett 😉

Tino will destroy him. 

[miserableoldgit]

3 hours ago, cloggy saint said:

No, he's free to play.

I thought that he was suspended....🤔

[Badger]

14 minutes ago, miserableoldgit said:

I thought that he was suspended....🤔

Think a few crossed wires here.

Seen kerb crawling near Clifton Suspension Bridge. Apparently.

Good source: taxi driver from Temple Meads Station in Bristol today.

[Chewy]

4 hours ago, cloggy saint said:

No, he's free to play.

It was a joke 😉

[Billy the Kidd]

6 hours ago, cloggy saint said:

Don't touch Mcginn either as he'll drop like a sack of shite.

Didn’t he fracture his leg against us last time or time before that?

[suewhistle]

No, next time..