Pilchards Posted 16 October, 2021 Share Posted 16 October, 2021 I will put my head on the line here and say that Howe is replacing Ralph at the end of October. Even if we win the next 3 games it won’t make a difference as the camp is not healthy at the moment and whoever the guys are that make those decisions are now taking action. Why it’s not being done now I don’t know but the source who has radio links with the club said something is being planned. 11 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 16 October, 2021 Share Posted 16 October, 2021 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Pilchards said: I will put my head on the line here and say that Howe is replacing Ralph at the end of October. 1) Even if we win the next 3 games it won’t make a difference as the camp is not healthy at the moment and whoever the guys are that make those decisions are now taking action. Why it’s not being done now I don’t know but the 2) source who has radio links with the club said something is being planned. 1) When has a Premier League manager ever won 3 games and then been sacked? 2) Hearing voices in his head? 3) Why would the club let anyone in the media know they are looking to sack a manager in 3 games time? How is that helpful for their cause? Edited 16 October, 2021 by Matthew Le God 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 16 October, 2021 Share Posted 16 October, 2021 (edited) It will be a bittersweet end to Ralph's time here if there is even a modicum of truth in these Chinese whispers. He is a decent and likeable chap, has his own ideas of how the game should be played and has had fair success elsewhere with his methods. Surely he must be as frustrated as hell that he has to work with a squad that just cannot meet his demands and expectations. It's probably a case of the right man for the club but at the wrong time; the way things are going financially any improvement in his or our fortunes seems extremely unlikely. If he has to leave we will miss his honesty, integrity and unfailing good humour. Mr Howe is not the answer to any of the questions facing our club right now. He is at best a bottler. My absence from the terraces this season was precipitated by a personal dispute with the Club. Mr Howe's arrival would be on a par with re-appointing Mark Hughes and confirm the end of my time at St Mary's. If the Club are ready to throw in the towel there is no better way to do it but I have no wish to be a witness to an execution. Edited 16 October, 2021 by Charlie Wayman clarification 2 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 16 October, 2021 Share Posted 16 October, 2021 2 minutes ago, Charlie Wayman said: 1) Mr Howe is not the answer to any of the questions facing our club right now. He is at best a bottler. 2) My absence from the terraces this season was precipitated by a personal dispute with the Club. 3) Mr Howe's arrival would be on a par with re-appointing Mark Hughes and confirm the end of my time at St Mary's. 1) What has he done to warrant being called a 'bottler'? 2) What was your dispute with the club? 3) Why is Howe comparable to Hughes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 16 October, 2021 Share Posted 16 October, 2021 (edited) Edited 16 October, 2021 by skintsaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 16 October, 2021 Share Posted 16 October, 2021 I hope not. Howe is not the answer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killers Knee Posted 16 October, 2021 Share Posted 16 October, 2021 Howe would be a backward step 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 16 October, 2021 Share Posted 16 October, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Toadhall Saint said: I hope not. Howe is not the answer. It is (nearly) to the question... which 1960s children's TV show was skate Fred Dinenage a presenter? Edited 16 October, 2021 by Matthew Le God 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 16 October, 2021 Share Posted 16 October, 2021 Hopefully not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 16 October, 2021 Share Posted 16 October, 2021 If we do well in the next few games Ralph is safe - I can't see us desperate to sack him (otherwise we would have already done so). If we do terribly, (ie no wins in ten) then its untenable and he will just have to go. Howe feels like an incredibly likely candidate but to be honest if we are sacking Ralph soon because he's started badly and recruiting Howe I think we're relegated. I don't see Eddie as the man to get us out of the shit. I think that if that is the chain of events then it feels to me that this really is the year we go down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 16 October, 2021 Share Posted 16 October, 2021 Relax. It’ll be Emma Haynes or Hope Powell. 1 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nta786 Posted 16 October, 2021 Share Posted 16 October, 2021 1 hour ago, Pilchards said: I will put my head on the line here and say that Howe is replacing Ralph at the end of October. Even if we win the next 3 games it won’t make a difference as the camp is not healthy at the moment and whoever the guys are that make those decisions are now taking action. Why it’s not being done now I don’t know but the source who has radio links with the club said something is being planned. I don't believe this to be true at all - I don't see any player in our squad to be the ones kicking up a fuss now that Ings and Bertrand have left. JWP/Romeu certainly wouldn't and they are our starting no. 6s The only player who I think would potentially kick up a fuss if I had to pick is Redmond, but he plays quite often so wouldn't be him. Close thread or move to the RH thread please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diabolus Ex Machina Posted 16 October, 2021 Share Posted 16 October, 2021 25 minutes ago, CB Fry said: If we do well in the next few games Ralph is safe - I can't see us desperate to sack him (otherwise we would have already done so). If we do terribly, (ie no wins in ten) then its untenable and he will just have to go. Howe feels like an incredibly likely candidate but to be honest if we are sacking Ralph soon because he's started badly and recruiting Howe I think we're relegated. I don't see Eddie as the man to get us out of the shit. I think that if that is the chain of events then it feels to me that this really is the year we go down. Probably more the fact that over the last 38 league games we've only managed 8 wins, 34 points, only beaten one top half team (Liverpool) and seen one of the worst runs of form in the clubs entire history. The bad start is a continuation of an appalling run of form from last year which extenuating circumstances or not still falls under Ralphs responsibility. You'd like to think he'd be given the next few games to try and get something as it has admittedly been a tough start fixture wise but it's a results business and he's not been getting them for a long time now. I don't know if Howe would be the answer but then i'm not convinced Ralph isn't the main problem at the moment either and that almost anyone else could give us an uptick in form. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurzel Posted 16 October, 2021 Share Posted 16 October, 2021 1 hour ago, Toadhall Saint said: I hope not. Howe is not the answer. No, it's a question 😂 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd Posted 16 October, 2021 Share Posted 16 October, 2021 Any remaining respect I had for Ralph has gone out of the window. Yes, he's started, Broja, which is good, but who does he play him with... fucking, Nathan Redmond. What a bellend. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 16 October, 2021 Share Posted 16 October, 2021 1 hour ago, Turkish said: Relax. It’ll be Emma Haynes or Hope Powell. trouble is Saints would probably give this a try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 16 October, 2021 Share Posted 16 October, 2021 Howe! Fucking hell some of you need to get a grip. There are better options than Howe if we were to get rid. 32 minutes ago, Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd said: Any remaining respect I had for Ralph has gone out of the window. Yes, he's started, Broja, which is good, but who does he play him with... fucking, Nathan Redmond. What a bellend. Redmond has been one of better players last few games. Not saying much but still... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 16 October, 2021 Share Posted 16 October, 2021 1 hour ago, Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd said: Any remaining respect I had for Ralph has gone out of the window. Yes, he's started, Broja, which is good, but who does he play him with... fucking, Nathan Redmond. What a bellend. Have you seen today's goal? 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 16 October, 2021 Share Posted 16 October, 2021 Just two more wins and the Howe era begins. 1 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 16 October, 2021 Share Posted 16 October, 2021 1 hour ago, Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd said: Any remaining respect I had for Ralph has gone out of the window. Yes, he's started, Broja, which is good, but who does he play him with... fucking, Nathan Redmond. What a bellend. And today's result shows why he is the manager and you are posting on a fans' forum. 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Timmier Posted 16 October, 2021 Share Posted 16 October, 2021 1 hour ago, Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd said: Any remaining respect I had for Ralph has gone out of the window. Yes, he's started, Broja, which is good, but who does he play him with... fucking, Nathan Redmond. What a bellend. Redmond fully justified selection today. A candidate for man of the match. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 16 October, 2021 Share Posted 16 October, 2021 4 hours ago, Pilchards said: the camp is not healthy at the moment Looked a pretty healthy team spirit today! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloggy saint Posted 16 October, 2021 Share Posted 16 October, 2021 1 hour ago, skintsaint said: trouble is Saints would probably give this a try. Who's to say it wouldn't work out? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Streaky Posted 16 October, 2021 Share Posted 16 October, 2021 2 hours ago, Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd said: Any remaining respect I had for Ralph has gone out of the window. Yes, he's started, Broja, which is good, but who does he play him with... fucking, Nathan Redmond. What a bellend. Redmond was good today and set up the goal. You are ridiculous. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piran Posted 16 October, 2021 Share Posted 16 October, 2021 2 hours ago, Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd said: Any remaining respect I had for Ralph has gone out of the window. Yes, he's started, Broja, which is good, but who does he play him with... fucking, Nathan Redmond. What a bellend. While we're on the subject of bellends.... wouldn't it perhaps be better to wait and see sometimes? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 16 October, 2021 Share Posted 16 October, 2021 Has anyone heard from Sydney Fudpucker the 2nd? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 16 October, 2021 Share Posted 16 October, 2021 9 hours ago, Pilchards said: the source who has radio links with the club said something is being planned 1 minute ago, whelk said: Has anyone heard from Sydney Fudpucker the 2nd? Talking to his 'radio links source' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellman Posted 16 October, 2021 Share Posted 16 October, 2021 We play well, win the match and have another thread about sacking the manager. Sometimes I can't make any sense of our fanbase. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 16 October, 2021 Share Posted 16 October, 2021 I would seriously question anyone's footballing knowledge if they think Eddie Howe would be better than Ralph Luckily the people running the club are switched on and it won't happen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Bates Statue Posted 16 October, 2021 Share Posted 16 October, 2021 10 hours ago, Pilchards said: I will put my head on the line here and say that Howe is replacing Ralph at the end of October. Even if we win the next 3 games it won’t make a difference as the camp is not healthy at the moment and whoever the guys are that make those decisions are now taking action. Why it’s not being done now I don’t know but the source who has radio links with the club said something is being planned. I see this post has gone down well. Fair play for sticking your neck out all the same. I remember in early 2018 Fitzhugh Fella posting a very odd rumour of Mark Hughes being on standby while Les Reed sat on the fence re Pellegrino, and you can imagine the reaction on here. I never found the original post but I specifically remember mention of him being on retainer, possibly as of January that year. It was a fair number of weeks before the axe actually fell and he was proved correct. Where I think things are different with our incumbent is that there are signs that we are better than our recent form on paper. Personally I am going to judge him on today and the next four games as to whether I feel he should be replaced, and I have assumed so far that the club felt the same. Two wins from four and he will be safe for the season, although I think the threshold might be as low as four points - keeping heads above water. It's been noticed that Howe has been in attendance at all our home games, and also well known that he would prefer to stay in the south so as long as we stay near the relegation zone, it follows that there will be talk of him joining us. I suspect that's all there is to it, but you never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman Posted 16 October, 2021 Share Posted 16 October, 2021 52 minutes ago, Pamplemousse said: I would seriously question anyone's footballing knowledge if they think Eddie Howe would be better than Ralph Luckily the people running the club are switched on and it won't happen. I can 100% promise you, that the club have previously spoken and put feelers out to Howe. Howe has also been at every home game this season. I can’t comment on Pilchards post, but i wouldn’t be surprised (and I’ve previously said I think Howe will be our manager before the end of the year). Of course should Ralph leave the club, we may get interest from another candidate who we prefer to Howe but I know talks have taken place back in the summer. So in short, the decision makers at the club are either not switched on, or more switched on than you. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 16 October, 2021 Share Posted 16 October, 2021 9 hours ago, adriansfc said: Just one of many managers to get a promotion To be fair he took Bournemouth from -10 at the bottom of League 2 to the Prem in six seasons. I don’t think we should sack Ralph but if it happens Howe should definitely be considered. Bournemouth were always going to go down at some point regardless of who their manager was. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddeer Posted 16 October, 2021 Share Posted 16 October, 2021 Ralph may or may not be on borrowed time but you have to question how Ranieri is still in a job at Watford, 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 16 October, 2021 Share Posted 16 October, 2021 I'll be very surprised if Howe isn't Saints manager by the end of the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killers Knee Posted 17 October, 2021 Share Posted 17 October, 2021 If Saints appoint Howe then it’s season over and nailed on relegation 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 17 October, 2021 Share Posted 17 October, 2021 2 minutes ago, Killers Knee said: If Saints appoint Howe then it’s season over and nailed on relegation Far from it. Howe is a decent manager. Ralph has run his course with us, I feel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 17 October, 2021 Share Posted 17 October, 2021 (edited) 8 hours ago, Ted Bates Statue said: I see this post has gone down well. Fair play for sticking your neck out all the same. I remember in early 2018 Fitzhugh Fella posting a very odd rumour of Mark Hughes being on standby while Les Reed sat on the fence re Pellegrino, and you can imagine the reaction on here. I never found the original post but I specifically remember mention of him being on retainer, possibly as of January that year. It was a fair number of weeks before the axe actually fell and he was proved correct. Where was it "proved correct" that we were paying unemployed Mark Hughes a retainer from January 2018, within days of him being sacked by Stoke, some two-three months ahead of him taking over from Pellegrino. I've never heard this, so would be interested to see this detail. It would basically mean we were paying Hughes a retainer at exactly the same time we were giving Pellegrino £20m to sign Carillo at the end of the same month. Feels unlikely. I think the specific point of this thread is not that Howe might be in the frame. This has been a rumour for a long time, and everyone recognises that there is a "fit" there. The originator of this thread is not the first person to make this connection. If we sack Ralph and employ Howe it will be the least surprising news in football, after Steve Bruce being sacked. There is absolutely no revelation there, zero insider knowledge. The point of this thread is that we are going to sack Ralph this month, even if he wins three in a row. Whatever he does he is sacked by Halloween. That is what the claim is here. We beat Burnley and Watford and then he's sacked, with us on 13 points from 10 games. Edited 17 October, 2021 by CB Fry 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangkoksaint Posted 17 October, 2021 Share Posted 17 October, 2021 One match with three points a season doesn’t make. Unfortunately Ralph’s form is pretty dreadful and I wouldn’t be surprised if he went - I’d also not shed many a tear. As for Howe? I don’t think he’d be a bad fit, what you could call a square peg in a square hole - something Ralph has never mastered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Saints Posted 17 October, 2021 Share Posted 17 October, 2021 It would appear Howe is waiting for the Saints job. Whether or not he gets the opportunity is another question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 17 October, 2021 Share Posted 17 October, 2021 Howe would be a terrible appointment. I'd rather have Neil Warnock than him 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 17 October, 2021 Share Posted 17 October, 2021 17 hours ago, skintsaint said: trouble is Saints would probably give this a try. Or Ted Lasso... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 17 October, 2021 Share Posted 17 October, 2021 40 minutes ago, Pamplemousse said: Howe would be a terrible appointment. I'd rather have Neil Warnock than him don't be so ridiculous. Our fans are a strange bunch at times, when the snobbery over certain players and managers set it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapel End Posted 17 October, 2021 Share Posted 17 October, 2021 42 minutes ago, Pamplemousse said: Howe would be a terrible appointment. I'd rather have Neil Warnock than him Don't want Howe ever! But Warnock? Just guess you are being a little tongue in cheek,anyway im happy with Ralph because things are improving game by game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 17 October, 2021 Share Posted 17 October, 2021 18 hours ago, Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd said: Any remaining respect I had for Ralph has gone out of the window. Yes, he's started, Broja, which is good, but who does he play him with... fucking, Nathan Redmond. What a bellend. Self-awareness is a fine personal trait...... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 17 October, 2021 Share Posted 17 October, 2021 27 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: don't be so ridiculous. Our fans are a strange bunch at times, when the snobbery over certain players and managers set it. I'm snobby because I don't want a failed manager here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 17 October, 2021 Share Posted 17 October, 2021 2 minutes ago, Pamplemousse said: I'm snobby because I don't want a failed manager here? I am not pro- Howe, but can you honestly think of a manager that would come here that hasn't failed somewhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 17 October, 2021 Share Posted 17 October, 2021 6 minutes ago, Pamplemousse said: I'm snobby because I don't want a failed manager here? What makes a 'failed manager'? I think you will struggle to find many managers that haven't had difficult seasons in their careers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapel End Posted 17 October, 2021 Share Posted 17 October, 2021 18 hours ago, Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd said: Any remaining respect I had for Ralph has gone out of the window. Yes, he's started, Broja, which is good, but who does he play him with... fucking, Nathan Redmond. What a bellend. Good morning Sydney. Stop hiding and admit you are wrong and more akin to being what you called Ralph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 17 October, 2021 Share Posted 17 October, 2021 2 minutes ago, Chapel End said: Good morning Sydney. Stop hiding and admit you are wrong and more akin to being what you called Ralph "Yeah...but no...but....."😄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 17 October, 2021 Share Posted 17 October, 2021 (edited) Warnock's retiring at the end of the season I think. I'm pretty ambivalent about Howe and would definitely prefer Hasenhüttl to stay. Edited 17 October, 2021 by The Cat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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