Andorra v England

[alehouseboys]

Best chance for Prowsey to get some game time...if it goes ahead.

Fire inside the stadium

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/12429189/andorra-vs-england-fire-breaks-out-at-national-stadium-day-before-european-qualifier

Wonder if it's a wonky hairdryer or iron in the official's dressing room that caused it 

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[SNSUN]

Seems like the VAR monitor had a meltdown before it was even used. 

[Billy the Kidd]

Mike Dean involved , tried to give JWP a red before kick off

[alehouseboys]

  On 08/10/2021 at 20:22, Billy the Kidd said:

Mike Dean involved , tried to give JWP a red before kick off

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As well as an all female team of on-field officials for this match, there's also a female on VAR. Should be interesting. 

[saintquin]

  On 09/10/2021 at 08:27, alehouseboys said:

As well as an all female team of on-field officials for this match, there's also a female on VAR. Should be interesting. 

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It shouldn't matter what sex the officials are.

 

[alehouseboys]

  On 09/10/2021 at 16:30, saintquin said:

It shouldn't matter what sex the officials are.

 

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I can’t deny, I like to see the men’s and women’s game kept separate - another thing I particularly can’t get with is women commentating on the men’s game.

I’m happy to see the women’s game improving, had my daughter or granddaughter wanted to be footballers I’d support them fully, but...

[Matthew Le God]

  On 09/10/2021 at 18:35, alehouseboys said:

1) I can’t deny, I like to see the men’s and women’s game kept separate - another thing I particularly can’t get with is women commentating on the men’s game.

2) I’m happy to see the women’s game improving, had my daughter or granddaughter wanted to be footballers I’d support them fully, but...

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1) Why does the sex of the match officials or commentator matter to you? They should be judged on their ability to perform their job, not their gender.

2) 'But' what?

[Manuel]

  On 09/10/2021 at 08:27, alehouseboys said:

As well as an all female team of on-field officials for this match, there's also a female on VAR. Should be interesting. 

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Doesn't sound very inclusive.  Who do I complain to?

[Noodles34]

How’s he playing ?

[John Boy Saint]

I have to say I like this Female ref - she is not taking any shit - need a few in the Prem if they are going to stamp out the gamesmanship that gets on many of our tits.

[AlexLaw76]

  On 09/10/2021 at 20:09, John Boy Saint said:

I have to say I like this Female ref - she is not taking any shit - need a few in the Prem if they are going to stamp out the gamesmanship that gets on many of our tits.

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so much so, she just bottled giving someone a 2nd yellow

[John Boy Saint]

…….then she lets herself down with that elbow

[John Boy Saint]

  On 09/10/2021 at 20:11, AlexLaw76 said:

so much so, she just bottled giving someone a 2nd yellow

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Beat me too it 😀

[nta786]

JWP scores the rebound lol from his pen initially saved.

[Whitey Grandad]

JWP has his penalty saved but tucks away the rebound convincingly with his left foot.

[John Boy Saint]

Good man - good save - good reaction.

2 more Ingerland goals than Grealish 

[saintadjg]

Prowsey on the scoresheet

[SNSUN]

Oof if that was in a penalty shoot out...

 

but it wasn't so YAY!

[Whitey Grandad]

  On 09/10/2021 at 20:25, John Boy Saint said:

Good man - good save - good reaction.

2 more Ingerland goals than Grealish 

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And as the commentator said, that counts as scoring a goal and not a penalty.

[Disco Stu]

James, without fail, always shoots to his bottom left when taking a penalty.

[bpsaint]

“Used to be a skate but he’s alright now” from the England fans, guessing we’ve got a few there? Heard the James ward prowse/Marian pahars song earlier too

[VectisSaint]

  On 09/10/2021 at 16:30, saintquin said:

It shouldn't matter what sex the officials are.

 

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It shouldn't, but most of the male referees are shocking.

[cloggy saint]

  On 09/10/2021 at 20:11, AlexLaw76 said:

so much so, she just bottled giving someone a 2nd yellow

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Alternatively, she didn't deem it a yellow card offence.

[Matthew Le God]

An open play goal for England from Ward-Prowse! 😉

[SNSUN]

Broja has scored for Albania... again.

 

What a goal too

 

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[Charlie Wayman]

JWP was OK but too many safe and sideways passes and as a result England lacked penetration.

Better in second half presumably after a bollocking at HT. Not sure he showed enough, safe pair of hands but uninspitrational.

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[Teddeer]

  On 09/10/2021 at 20:33, SNSUN said:

Broja has scored for Albania... again.

 

What a goal too

 

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Ralph has got to give this lad a run of games. We need a goalscorer and he fits the bill. Stop prevaricating Ralph and saying he needs to show more and stick him in the side.

[John Boy Saint]

That’s a petty cheap stat on the BBC website 

Whats  next burnt at the Stake drowned on the Ducking stool.

[Whitey Grandad]

  On 09/10/2021 at 20:57, John Boy Saint said:

That’s a petty cheap stat on the BBC website 

Whats  next burnt at the Stake drowned on the Ducking stool.

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It wasn’t missed, it was saved.

[Dellman]

JWP and Foden ran the mid field and sprayed passes long and short, good combination.

[Matthew Le God]

  On 09/10/2021 at 20:44, Charlie Wayman said:

JWP was OK but too many safe and sideways passes and as a result England lacked penetration.

Better in second half presumably after a bollocking at HT. Not sure he showed enough, safe pair of hands but uninspitrational.

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England were completely dominant and won 5-0. Not every pass needs to be forward. Recycling the ball helps stretch and open up deep lying opponents. You have an odd expectation of what Ward-Prowse's role was tonight.

[Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd]

Isn't it great to see Danny Ings resurrecting his England career since moving to a 'Bigger Club' to improve his chances of representing his country. 

[danjosaint]

It looked like to me Southgate instructed him to be deepest lying midfielder,  hence why Foden had so much space in front whilst jwp mopped up a few lazy balls then recycled normally out to the flanks 

[Noodles34]

Always thought Prowse would be much better in a decent side 

[Minsk]

JWP had a very good match. Kept the ball moving, with some excellent long balls out to the wings. Never giving the ball away once. Mopped up when others lost possession. Not his best pen, which was well saved, and a great follow up - with his weaker foot. Second England goal from open play.

Thought the match officials did well. Much better than the usual dross we see in the prem. Yes, should probably have given a second yellow for the elbow but we had the advantage of replays from different angles to come to such a conclusion. Would definitely much rather see this ref in charge of a Saints match than Mike Dean (ditto for the VAR operator). 

[wooley7]

  On 09/10/2021 at 20:33, SNSUN said:

Broja has scored for Albania... again.

 

What a goal too

 

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Not just a great goal in a nothing game either. Albania won 1-0 and are second in a tight chase for second place.

Great goal in a massive game.

[Minsk]

  On 09/10/2021 at 20:44, Charlie Wayman said:

JWP was OK but too many safe and sideways passes and as a result England lacked penetration.

Better in second half presumably after a bollocking at HT. Not sure he showed enough, safe pair of hands but uninspitrational.

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What a complete load of tosh!!

[Minsk]

  On 09/10/2021 at 20:45, Teddeer said:

Ralph has got to give this lad a run of games. We need a goalscorer and he fits the bill. Stop prevaricating Ralph and saying he needs to show more and stick him in the side.

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He scored his goal today after coming on as a 66th minute sub. He scored the winner against Hungary previously after coming on as a 78th minute sub. His best league performance for us was after coming on as a 74th minute sub against West Ham. When started against Sheffield Utd he did diddly squat. Maybe he is best used as an impact sub against teams higher than League 2 standard?

[Toussaint]

  On 09/10/2021 at 20:45, Teddeer said:

Ralph has got to give this lad a run of games. We need a goalscorer and he fits the bill. Stop prevaricating Ralph and saying he needs to show more and stick him in the side.

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He would if he showed some interest.

[JRM]

  On 09/10/2021 at 20:33, Matthew Le God said:

An open play goal for England from Ward-Prowse! 😉

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CAPTAIN. LEADER. LEGEND. 

Think that makes it 10 full England caps and 2 goals for JWP, proper international player. 

[rooney]

I cannot recall JWP making one misplaced pass. A  good game and well done to him.

[Teddeer]

  On 09/10/2021 at 23:06, Minsk said:

He scored his goal today after coming on as a 66th minute sub. He scored the winner against Hungary previously after coming on as a 78th minute sub. His best league performance for us was after coming on as a 74th minute sub against West Ham. When started against Sheffield Utd he did diddly squat. Maybe he is best used as an impact sub against teams higher than League 2 standard?

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Could any of our other strikers have scored the goal he got yesterday? Just because he did little in a game he started against Sheffield Utd you claim he is possibly best used as an impact sub. Our other strikers also do diddly squat when starting because the service is poor or non-existent. Out of all of them only Broja looks capable of getting a goal out of nothing so for that reason alone he should start.

[Teddeer]

  On 10/10/2021 at 00:07, Toussaint said:

He would if he showed some interest.

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You mean like the interest he showed when coming off the bench against West Ham and hitting the post and having a header cleared off the line? As compared to the interest of our other strikers who rarely look like scoring or giving opposition defenders much to worry about. It is clear this lad has something about him and he needs games. He won't score goals warming the bench and watching the rest toil away.

[Sheaf Saint]

  On 09/10/2021 at 21:48, Noodles34 said:

Always thought Prowse would be much better in a decent side 

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Not to take too much away from him, because he did have a good game, but we really do need to take The quality (or lack of) of the opposition into account before we get too carried away.

JWP was playing a deep lying role against a team with 10 players camped in their own half at all times. Hardly a big test for him.

I think he needs to introduce some variety into his penalty taking. Always the same spot, and he was lucky the rebound fell to him this time.

[suewhistle]

  On 09/10/2021 at 18:35, alehouseboys said:

I I’m happy to see the women’s game improving, had my daughter or granddaughter wanted to be footballers I’d support them fully, but...

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.. "some of my best friends are Jewish".. You may or may not get the cultural reference..

[Teddeer]

  On 10/10/2021 at 08:19, Sheaf Saint said:

Not to take too much away from him, because he did have a good game, but we really do need to take The quality (or lack of) of the opposition into account before we get too carried away.

JWP was playing a deep lying role against a team with 10 players camped in their own half at all times. Hardly a big test for him.

I think he needs to introduce some variety into his penalty taking. Always the same spot, and he was lucky the rebound fell to him this time.

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Agree about his penalties. He must mix it up or he'll run the risk of seeing more saved in the future.

[captainchris]

  On 09/10/2021 at 21:21, Dellman said:

JWP and Foden ran the mid field and sprayed passes long and short, good combination.

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Well mostly Foden did and don’t forget the standard of the opposition. 

[Charlie Wayman]

  On 09/10/2021 at 22:41, Minsk said:

JWP had a very good match. Kept the ball moving, with some excellent long balls out to the wings. Never giving the ball away once. Mopped up when others lost possession. Not his best pen, which was well saved, and a great follow up - with his weaker foot. Second England goal from open play.

 

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What a complete load of tosh!

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[alehouseboys]

  On 09/10/2021 at 19:02, Matthew Le God said:

'But' what?

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  On 10/10/2021 at 08:36, suewhistle said:

.. "some of my best friends are Jewish".. You may or may not get the cultural reference..

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but...(didn't think I needed to repeat myself)....I like to see the men’s and women’s game kept separate

Simply this.

Some people just try too hard to be offended.

[austsaint]

  On 09/10/2021 at 23:06, Minsk said:

He scored his goal today after coming on as a 66th minute sub. He scored the winner against Hungary previously after coming on as a 78th minute sub. His best league performance for us was after coming on as a 74th minute sub against West Ham. When started against Sheffield Utd he did diddly squat. Maybe he is best used as an impact sub against teams higher than League 2 standard?

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I see; so your assessment of the International round up is our JWP is a super player but our Broja is an impact sub at League 2 level.  Hmmm.