Sheff Utd 2-2 (p.2-4) Saints - Match Thread

[Lighthouse]

A few players it’d be good to see more of here, Broja and Tella in particular.

[ErwinK1961]

Forster, KWP, Lyanco, Bednarek, Perraud, Diallo, JWP (no-one else), Djenepo, Redmond, Tella, Broja.

 

[whelk]

  On 18/09/2021 at 17:43, Lighthouse said:

A few players it’d be good to see more of here, Broja and Tella in particular.

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Yes and Lyanco

[Matthew Le God]

  On 18/09/2021 at 17:52, ErwinK1961 said:

Forster, KWP, Lyanco, Bednarek, Perraud, Diallo, JWP (no-one else), Djenepo, Redmond, Tella, Broja.

 

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That would make sense and should be strong enough to win comfortably.

[Baird of the land]

Forster, KWP, Lyanco, Salisu, Perraud, Diallo, JWP, Tella, Djenepo, Adams,  Broja

[JRM]

  On 18/09/2021 at 18:33, Matthew Le God said:

That would make sense and should be strong enough to win comfortably.

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Should be, and do like the look of that line up, but the 1/4 final defeat up there under Koeman still feels fresh in the memory. 

[Turkish]

I’m letting a tourist from Japan have my ticket as I know how desperate they are to see a premier league team so won’t be selfish and take a ticket that would be better appreciated by someone else

[Sheaf Saint]

  On 18/09/2021 at 18:33, Matthew Le God said:

That would make sense and should be strong enough to win comfortably.

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Well blow me down - I think this might be the first time I've ever seen you agree with someone on this forum!

 

  On 18/09/2021 at 19:43, JRM said:

Should be, and do like the look of that line up, but the 1/4 final defeat up there under Koeman still feels fresh in the memory. 

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Yes it does, but they were very much on an upward momentum curve at that point. despite being a division higher this time, they're still on the way down again following their relegation last season and they've not made a brilliant start to their league campaign. As long as we play a strong enough team, we should beat them with ease this time.

[Jeremy Corbyn]

Obviously an absurd suggestion but is there a chance Ralph rested Salisu today because 1. He thought we'd lose anyway and 2. In order to play him and Lyanco in this one?

[SuperSAINT]

Did Jokanovic put a strong side out in the last round? 

[ErwinK1961]

  On 18/09/2021 at 20:48, SuperSAINT said:

Did Jokanovic put a strong side out in the last round? 

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Doesn’t look like it, quite a bit of rotation. You’d think their focus would be on the league so expect they’ll make numerous changes again.

[Master Bates]

Must win imo

[kwsaint]

Did they play in 1945? I thought it was cancelled because of the war.

[TWar]

Forster, KWP Lyanco Bednarek Perraud, JWP Diallo, Elyounoussi Redmond, Armstrong Broja

 

Bit of rotation but some players (Elyounoussi, Perraud, Armstrong) could do with more gametime imo.

[woodsaint1]

  On 18/09/2021 at 17:52, ErwinK1961 said:

Forster, KWP, Lyanco, Bednarek, Perraud, Diallo, JWP (no-one else), Djenepo, Redmond, Tella, Broja.

 

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Smallbone back in training but probably too soon for him. It would be this sort of game that we need to give JWP a rest

[John Boy Saint]

Redmond will likely stay in the squad - rip the Blades to shreds just to top up his first team ticket and frustrate the hell out of all of us until Christmas

[JRM]

  On 18/09/2021 at 20:00, Sheaf Saint said:

Well blow me down - I think this might be the first time I've ever seen you agree with someone on this forum!

 

Yes it does, but they were very much on an upward momentum curve at that point. despite being a division higher this time, they're still on the way down again following their relegation last season and they've not made a brilliant start to their league campaign. As long as we play a strong enough team, we should beat them with ease this time.

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Actually just looked it up, December 2014 that game was , apparently was Che Adams senior debut for Sheff Utd. 

Our record against them seems good in recent times, did the double over them in both the last two seasons, you'd hope they would make a few changes as well and prioritise the Championship. 

[Saint Garrett]

Expecting something like

Forster, KWP Lyanco Bednarek Perraud, Diallo JWP, Elyounoussi Broja Tella Redmond

How far away is Walcott? Could Small play LB? Wouldn’t be surprised to see us go with Adams and Armstrong up front and try and get them a goal or 2. 

[WALK DMC]

  On 19/09/2021 at 07:54, Saint Garrett said:

Expecting something like

Forster, KWP Lyanco Bednarek Perraud, Diallo JWP, Elyounoussi Broja Tella Redmond

How far away is Walcott? Could Small play LB? Wouldn’t be surprised to see us go with Adams and Armstrong up front and try and get them a goal or 2. 

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I think that Valery will probably play right back as KWP & Tino both featured in a fairly intense game yesterday. Valery started against Newport and Ralph has spoken reasonably positively about him this season. 

[Charlie Wayman]

  On 18/09/2021 at 20:45, Jeremy Corbyn said:

Obviously an absurd suggestion but is there a chance Ralph rested Salisu today because 1. He thought we'd lose anyway and 2. In order to play him and Lyanco in this one?

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More likely he thought that Bednarek was the more dependable option with loads of experience against top level opposition. Salisu is still raw and a yard too slow at times.

[Verbal]

  On 19/09/2021 at 10:51, Charlie Wayman said:

More likely he thought that Bednarek was the more dependable option with loads of experience against top level opposition. Salisu is still raw and a yard too slow at times.

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'Salisu is a yard too slow' is a new one on me.

[S-Clarke]

  On 19/09/2021 at 10:51, Charlie Wayman said:

More likely he thought that Bednarek was the more dependable option with loads of experience against top level opposition. Salisu is still raw and a yard too slow at times.

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A yard slow? He's our quickest CB by an absolute distance. He reads the game quicker than any of our CB's as well, so he's quick in the mind and quick in the run.

What I'd say is that he is a bit rash sometimes, he can over commit and players like City can run around you - so I could kind of understand the switch up, a bit more experience in there more than anything. 

You can't describe him as a yard slow though.

[Matthew Le God]

  On 19/09/2021 at 10:51, Charlie Wayman said:

Salisu is a yard too slow 

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Edited 19 September, 2021 by Matthew Le God

[Chapel End]

  On 19/09/2021 at 10:51, Charlie Wayman said:

More likely he thought that Bednarek was the more dependable option with loads of experience against top level opposition. Salisu is still raw and a yard too slow at times.

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Slow, do you actually think that?

Nonsense 

[austsaint]

  On 19/09/2021 at 11:20, S-Clarke said:

A yard slow? He's our quickest CB by an absolute distance. He reads the game quicker than any of our CB's as well, so he's quick in the mind and quick in the run.

What I'd say is that he is a bit rash sometimes, he can over commit and players like City can run around you - so I could kind of understand the switch up, a bit more experience in there more than anything. 

You can't describe him as a yard slow though.

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Salisu is several yards quicker than either of the other CBs we've seen play.    I was surprised he didn't start today - just has a few rough edges to polish, but he's got the skills, athleticism and reading of the game to make his mark.    Let's hope we see Lyanco soon.

[philelec]

  On 18/09/2021 at 21:46, kwsaint said:

Did they play in 1945? I thought it was cancelled because of the war.

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[waylander]

  On 19/09/2021 at 10:51, Charlie Wayman said:

More likely he thought that Bednarek was the more dependable option with loads of experience against top level opposition. Salisu is still raw and a yard too slow at times.

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Do you actually watch our games?

[The Cat]

  On 19/09/2021 at 07:54, Saint Garrett said:

Expecting something like

Forster, KWP Lyanco Bednarek Perraud, Diallo JWP, Elyounoussi Broja Tella Redmond

How far away is Walcott? Could Small play LB? Wouldn’t be surprised to see us go with Adams and Armstrong up front and try and get them a goal or 2. 

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Small's playing for the B team today so unlikely.

I imagine Broja will play up front. 

[SFC Forever]

  On 19/09/2021 at 10:51, Charlie Wayman said:

More likely he thought that Bednarek was the more dependable option with loads of experience against top level opposition. Salisu is still raw and a yard too slow at times.

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Well that is an amazing point to make about Salisu. I rate him as best for speed and defending out of the current CB's

[Toadhall Saint]

  On 19/09/2021 at 12:35, waylander said:

Do you actually watch our games?

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Gooner 

[Dellman]

  On 19/09/2021 at 14:53, Toadhall Saint said:

Gooner 

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  On 19/09/2021 at 07:54, Saint Garrett said:

Expecting something like

Forster, KWP Lyanco Bednarek Perraud, Diallo JWP, Elyounoussi Broja Tella Redmond

How far away is Walcott? Could Small play LB? Wouldn’t be surprised to see us go with Adams and Armstrong up front and try and get them a goal or 2. 

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Great to have such a choice compared with last season. Really we have a new team built round JWP. I up my forecast to 10th instead of 17th end of season

[sad saints fan]

  On 18/09/2021 at 21:46, kwsaint said:

Did they play in 1945? I thought it was cancelled because of the war.

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  On 19/09/2021 at 12:33, philelec said:

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🤣🤣

[Saint86]

  On 19/09/2021 at 10:51, Charlie Wayman said:

Salisu is still raw and a yard too slow at times.

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What a load of🐎.

[Sheaf Saint]

Bit of bad news I'm afraid...

The Sheaf View pub - which I know is a favourite pre-match watering hole for a few people on here when visiting Sheff Utd - is closed at the moment following an arson attack.

It hasn't burned down or anything dramatic, and they are hoping to have it re-open very soon, but it doesn't look like it will be in time for Tuesday.

However, just up the hill from it is the Brothers Arms (Formerly the Shakespeare Inn), which I can heartily recommend as a suitable alternative. It's a bit small inside but they have a great range of beers and a really good outside seating area.

[goodymatt]

Looks like Sheffield United have started to find some decent form after a disappointing start to their season. Might be a more difficult task than expected.

Hoping like others that they will prioritise their league campaign. From a Saints perspective I’d like to see Lyanco start for this one and I’d expect to see Perraud, Broja and Diallo starting too.

I very much enjoyed my first live game post Covid this weekend at City and looking forward to going to Sheffield for this one too. Rude not to when living in the north west!

 

[Saint Garrett]

  On 19/09/2021 at 19:02, Sheaf Saint said:

Bit of bad news I'm afraid...

The Sheaf View pub - which I know is a favourite pre-match watering hole for a few people on here when visiting Sheff Utd - is closed at the moment following an arson attack.

It hasn't burned down or anything dramatic, and they are hoping to have it re-open very soon, but it doesn't look like it will be in time for Tuesday.

However, just up the hill from it is the Brothers Arms (Formerly the Shakespeare Inn), which I can heartily recommend as a suitable alternative. It's a bit small inside but they have a great range of beers and a really good outside seating area.

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Ah used to go up there when I was at Uni. Fantastic pub, hopefully it’s all sorted and back open soon 

[LordHester]

Anyone know if it's likely to be on tv anywhere?

[Saint Garrett]

Always is somewhere, doubt it's on UK TV though. Should be a stream for it.

[Matthew Le God]

  On 20/09/2021 at 10:54, LordHester said:

Anyone know if it's likely to be on tv anywhere?

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  On 20/09/2021 at 11:48, Saint Garrett said:

Always is somewhere, doubt it's on UK TV though. Should be a stream for it.

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There won't be a stream from anywhere in the world.

 

[Saint Garrett]

  On 20/09/2021 at 12:00, Matthew Le God said:

 

There won't be a stream from anywhere in the world.

 

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Well that's absolutely shite. Why?

[nta786]

  On 20/09/2021 at 12:01, Saint Garrett said:

Well that's absolutely shite. Why?

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My guess would be to protect attendances.

The website below suggests the following League cup games will be shown in some regions around the world but ours did not make the cut, therefore the best alternative is either radio or to watch Sky Sports News which has a goal rush type broadcast and shows any goals as they go in.

Edited 20 September, 2021 by nta786

[eelpie]

I'm also looking forward to seeing some of our exciting and promising options playing, but with a caveat:  not too many newcomers at once without experienced first team players on the pitch. We must keep good shape, cohesion and understanding between the players, otherwise there could be a cup upset.

 

[Saint_clark]

  On 20/09/2021 at 12:24, nta786 said:

My guess would be to protect attendances.

The website below suggests the following League cup games will be shown in some regions around the world but ours did not make the cut, therefore the best alternative is either radio or to watch Sky Sports News which has a goal rush type broadcast and shows any goals as they go in.

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To protect attendances for the early rounds maybe, but why scrap all TV fixtures for the competition? I doubt they'll keep that policy for the bloody final.

[Fabrice29]

  On 20/09/2021 at 16:10, Saint_clark said:

To protect attendances for the early rounds maybe, but why scrap all TV fixtures for the competition? I doubt they'll keep that policy for the bloody final.

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They haven't scraped all TV fixtures for the competition or even the round fwiw. The tweet is slightly misleading. Two fixtures on Sky Sports this week.

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[fanimal]

Won’t they show the goals as they go in on SSN then?

[skintsaint]

Will be a tough game especially if we go 2nd string. Think we will scrape a 1-0 win.

[SuperSAINT]

  On 21/09/2021 at 06:13, skintsaint said:

Will be a tough game especially if we go 2nd string. Think we will scrape a 1-0 win.

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Depends what they field…

[Shroppie]

It'll be a tough game. Got a feeling we'll field quite a strong team.

Forster 

KWP Bednarek Lyanco Perrauld

JWP Diallo 

Djenepo Tella

Broja Armstrong or Adams

 

 

 

[igsey]

I'd play Armstrong and Adams up top for this one, would be nice for them to get a couple of goals and the more time they spend playing together, the better.

Valery RB and KWP LB?

[Chris cooper]

I’d start Adams with broja tonight ..Adams having spent some of his career here would be chomping at the bit to score against his old club .. Broja will bully tonight so robustness and menacing to start to get an early lead after some sustained home early pressure..then bring on Armstrong with pace to hurt them wen they tire ..would like to have a look at the gorilla 🦍 in defence along side bednerak .. moi and mouse on the flanks ..jwp diallo holding ..kwp rb and small lb Fraser in goal .

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