The Minsk Memorial Thread (and continuation of his work)

[the boy from saints]

Match Day 26 - Saints 2 - Norwich 0

Another comfortable home win, up to 9th in the table with a Romeu banger to boot!

Match Day Comparison:

Last season we lost 1-0 to Everton at Goodison, so an increase in points and GD.

+5 points; +10 GD

Head-to-Head Comparison:

The comparison was to last season's home win against Fulham (3-1), so again, no change on the H2H.

+16 points; +23 GD

Next up on Match Day 27 is a tricky away game at Villa Park - lets hope we remind Danny Ings what he's been missing.

Last season's Matchday 27 was a  0-2 win against a poor Sheffield United team, devoid of confidence. It will be difficult to better the GD but not impossible.

The H2H compares the nerve wracking 3-4 win to Saints where we were cruising at 4-0 and did our best to surrender the lead with 3 late goals conceded. Again, it will be difficult to improve on the GD but we'll see!

[Dark Munster]

8 hours ago, the boy from saints said:

 

Match Day 26 - Saints 2 - Norwich 0

Another comfortable home win, up to 9th in the table with a Romeu banger to boot!

Match Day Comparison:

Last season we lost 1-0 to Everton at Goodison, so an increase in points and GD.

+5 points; +10 GD

Head-to-Head Comparison:

The comparison was to last season's home win against Fulham (3-1), so again, no change on the H2H.

+16 points; +23 GD

Next up on Match Day 27 is a tricky away game at Villa Park - lets hope we remind Danny Ings what he's been missing.

Last season's Matchday 27 was a  0-2 win against a poor Sheffield United team, devoid of confidence. It will be difficult to better the GD but not impossible.

The H2H compares the nerve wracking 3-4 win to Saints where we were cruising at 4-0 and did our best to surrender the lead with 3 late goals conceded. Again, it will be difficult to improve on the GD but we'll see!

Good job, thanks. The H2H is really impressive. It's sobering to think that if we had the same H2H we'd currently be on 19 points, 19th and below Watford on GD!

[the boy from saints]

Match Day 27 - Aston Villa 4 - Saints 0

Hopefully 'another bad day at the office', rather than a turn in form. Still gutted.

Match Day Comparison:

Last season we beat Sheffield United 2-0, so a decrease in points and 6 point shift in GD.

+2 points; +4 GD

Head-to-Head Comparison:

Last season's comparison was the 3-4 win at Villa Park - so again, comparison points dropped.

+13 points; +18 GD

Next up on Match Day 28 is the nefariously rearranged home game against Newcastle - which is now tangibly more difficult than it would have been in Dec - being compared to the 5-2 away mauling by Man City - so a fair chance in increasing the Match Day Comparison score.

The H2H compares a 2-0 win at home against Newcastle - so difficult to increase the H2H stats - unless the team are performing at their very best.

Overall, we are still performing well in comparison to last season - but is the comparison starting to level out? Thursday will be a good indicator...

Up the Saints!

[the boy from saints]

Match Day 28 - Saints 1 - Newcastle 2

A better performance than at Villa and we probably should have won it based on chances created - but Newcastle were clinical (and cynical).

Match Day Comparison:

Last season we lost to Man City 5-2, so a small improvement in GD compared to that game.

+2 points; +6 GD

Head-to-Head Comparison:

Last season's comparison was a 2-0 win - so again, comparison points dropped.

+10 points; +15 GD

Next up on Match Day 29 is the home defeat by Brighton (1-2), so another chance to increase Match Day Comparison stats

The H2H compares last season's 2-0 win at home against West Brom - so, again difficult to increase the H2H stats - unless the team thrash Watford.

Here's hoping for a motivating home win after a depressing week of losses!

COYRs!

[sad saints fan]

Excellent work .Thank you

[the boy from saints]

Match Day 29 - Saints 1 - Watford 2

An awful disjointed performance, not helped by Ralph playing Smallbone upfront behind Adams and comedy defending from Salisu and Frazer. But not quite as bad as Brighton's run of form who we are comparing to last year's 2-1 home defeat.

Match Day Comparison:

No change in this respect to that Brighton game last season. Both 2-1 losses.

+2 points; +6 GD

Head-to-Head Comparison:

Last season's comparison was a 2-0 win (against West Brom for comparison purposes) - so again, points dropped and GD reduced.

+7 points; +12 GD

Next up on Match Day 30 are Leeds away ( being compared to our 3-2 home win against Burnley) so difficult to improve the MD stats.

The H2H compares last season's 3-0 loss at Elland Road - so, a chance to increase the H2H stats..

See you all at St Marys for an unlikely (but not impossible) cup win tomorrow!!

[the boy from saints]

Match Day 30 - Leeds 1 - Saints 1

Finally putting a stop to our losing streak, but still not quite firing on all cylinders. Great to see Tella back and JWP is closing in on Beckham's record!

Match Day Comparison:

Sadly, this is the week where we are on a par with last season. I suppose our low points at the start of this season added to our recent run of form has finally equalled out with last season's Jeckel & Hyde form. We beat Burnley 3-2 at home on last season's MD 30, so points and GD dropped in terms of match day comparison.

0 points; +5 GD

Head-to-Head Comparison:

Last season's comparison was the depressing, 0-3 loss at Elland Road - so a small improvement in the H2H stakes and a GD increase as well!

+8 points; +15 GD

Next up on Match Day 31 are Chelsea at home (being compared to a respectable 1-1 in the H2H) and a 3-0 drubbing by West Brom in the Match Day comparison.

Can we replicate Brentford's victory and capitalise on the fact that our game is sandwiched between Champions League ties with Real Madrid (with Chelsea only having 2 days rest between each game)?

[redkeith]

Looks like this slipped through the net this week, a bit like the entire Chelsea attack ! 

 

Match day comparison 

Three more goals let in than away at West Brom , so 

0 points +2 GD 

 

Head to Head 

+ 7 points +9 GD 

 

This weeks comparison . 

 

Last Season's home game with Arsenal was a limp  3 1  defeat , while match 32 was a late Var 2 1 defeat at Spurs, so there  is potential for some improvement here. Just can't see it myself .   

[the boy from saints]

 

Match Day 32 -  Saints 1 Arsenal 0

A decent performance was what was needed after last week's travesty and that's what we got with Lyanco and Frazer some of the key performers on the day.

Match Day Comparison:

Comared with last Season's MD 32 away at Tottenham where we lost 2-1, so a positive result against this metric!

+3 points; +4 GD

Head-to-Head Comparison:

Last season's comparison was 1-3 loss at The Emirates - so an improvement in the H2H stakes and a GD increase as well!

+10 points; +12 GD

Next up on Match Day 33 are Burnley away (we won 0-1 at their place last season in the H2H) and a 1-1 draw with Leicester in the Match Day comparison.

The comparison to last season is looking a bit more positive again, and we're tangibly doing comparatively better in the H2H and with some lower table teams coming up next we should expect to see both stats improve further. All I want is some improvement season on season and it's currently looking like that has happened so far...

[Sheaf Saint]

1 hour ago, the boy from saints said:

Head-to-Head Comparison:

Last season's comparison was 1-3 loss at The Emirates - so an improvement in the H2H stakes and a GD increase as well!

+10 points; +12 GD

I assume you mean at SMS. We drew 1-1 at the Emirates last season.

[the boy from saints]

1 hour ago, Sheaf Saint said:

I assume you mean at SMS. We drew 1-1 at the Emirates last season.

Yes - my mistake!

[redkeith]

Match Day 33 are Burnley away (we won 0-1 at their place last season in the H2H) and a 1-1 draw with Leicester in the Match Day comparison.

The comparison to last season is looking a bit more positive again, and we're tangibly doing comparatively better in the H2H and with some lower table teams coming up next we should expect to see both stats improve further. All I want is some improvement season on season and it's currently looking like that has happened so far...

Match Day Comparison:

Compared with last Season's MD 33 was a late loss at Spurs to a
Var penalty call.

 +3 points; +3 GD

Head-to-Head Comparison:

Last season's comparison was  1 nil win to Saints so bad on this one as well 

+7 points; +9 GD

 

Next match up is Brighton away, were we won last year, thanks to a late Var penalty . Last Season's MD 34 hard fought draw against Leicester. Lets just hope the team turn up for this one and not just go to the pier ! 

 

[the boy from saints]

Match Day 34 -  Brighton  2 Saints 2 

A decent second half performance after a dire first, got us to the magic 40 point water mark.

Match Day Comparison:

Compared with last Season's MD 32 away at Anfield where we lost 2-0 to Liverpool, so a minor improvement against this metric!

+3 points; +4 GD

Head-to-Head Comparison:

Last season we won 1-2 at the Amex - so again, points dropped in this comparison.

+5 points; +8 GD

Next up on Match Day 35 are coincidentally Palace at home (we won 3-1 last season in the H2H).

We are still just about improving on last season, but anything but a win on Saturday will erode those comparison scores further!

[redkeith]

That was a shitshow ! 

2 1 to  Palace, and Zaha has served an eviction notice to JWP, who must now leave his head .

 

Match Day 

 0 Points +1 GD 

Head to head  

+2 points +5 GD 

This is based on the boy from saints figures above . 

This week it is Brentford away, which equates to the 2 nil win at Sheffield United.

Game 36 was a 3 1 home win over Fulham, so if we fail to win a Brentford this season will be , from a statistics point of view, a pile of pants !  

 

[the boy from saints]

Nice one! Yeah, the figures should be all good - I plug them into a spreadsheet (that was tested on Minsk's results prior to him passing).

 

[Saint_clark]

So that's it, we're officially in negative for both head to head and matchday comparison. How fucking sad is that. We were up so much for so long.

[Holmes_and_Watson]

14 minutes ago, Saint_clark said:

So that's it, we're officially in negative for both head to head and matchday comparison. How fucking sad is that. We were up so much for so long.

We looked as though we were going to sail past last season's figures for a while. But no, we were on the bus at the end of the Young Ones. "Cliff!"

[Dark Munster]

54 minutes ago, Saint_clark said:

So that's it, we're officially in negative for both head to head and matchday comparison. How fucking sad is that. We were up so much for so long.

I'm going to stick my neck out and predict the head to head and matchday results will be identical at the end of the season!

[Barsiem]

Tbf we’ve got Liverpool at home next, so a good chance to improve our head to head GD as we only won 1-0 last year

[the boy from saints]

Match Day 36 -  Brentford  3 Saints 0 

A horrorshow from Saints resulting in the majority of the fanbase calling for Ralph's head

Match Day Comparison:

Compared with last Season's MD 36 1-3 win away at Craven Cottage shows another drop in points and GD swing.

-3 points; -4 GD

Head-to-Head Comparison:

Last season we won 0-2 at Bramall Lane - so again, big points dropped in this comparison.

-1 points; 0 GD

Next up on Match Day 37 are Liverpool at home (we won 1-0 last season in the H2H) so very difficult to improve on that.

We have now officially regressed from last season - hence why a generally patient set of supporters have had enough. Though it would be typical of Saints to get something out of this game! We need to to stop us looking over our shoulders...

[redkeith]

That was not fun 

Match Day 37 -  Saints 1 - Liverpool 2  

 

Match Day Comparison:

Compared with last Season's MD 36 0-2 Loss at home to Dirty Leed, a slight improvement in Goal difference.

-3 points; +3 GD

Head-to-Head Comparison:

Last season we won  1 nil and it all ended in tears 

-3 Points -2 Goal Difference.

 

Next  up is Leicester away . Vardy is scoring for fun, and Barnes is playing well in the space between the midfield and front line that we don't bother to mark anymore . 

We lost 2 nil up there and 3 nil at West Ham on match day 38, so scope for improvement there , but I really really doubt it.  

[Dark Munster]

11 hours ago, redkeith said:

That was not fun 

Match Day 37 -  Saints 1 - Liverpool 2  

 

Match Day Comparison:

Compared with last Season's MD 36 0-2 Loss at home to Dirty Leed, a slight improvement in Goal difference.

-3 points; +3 GD

Head-to-Head Comparison:

Last season we won  1 nil and it all ended in tears 

-3 Points -2 Goal Difference.

 

Next  up is Leicester away . Vardy is scoring for fun, and Barnes is playing well in the space between the midfield and front line that we don't bother to mark anymore . 

We lost 2 nil up there and 3 nil at West Ham on match day 38, so scope for improvement there , but I really really doubt it.  

So if we win 1-0 we'll end up 0 points and +1  GD better for both!

 

[Ted Bates Statue]

Seeing as we now have no games for ages, felt it would be a good time to check in on Minsk's old thread, with a brief comparison to see how we are shaping up against the promotion league table of 2011-12.

Back then with ten games to go, we just beat Barnsley 2-0 having drawn 1-1 with Ipswich in the previous game. With 20 wins, 9 draws and 7 defeats that leaves us with 69 points at the same stage we are now.

Having won 22, drawn 7 and lost 7 this season on 73 points, we are 4 points better off today, but we are in 4th place as opposed to being the division leaders, which maybe explains why it felt a bit more enjoyable back then. I'm reasonably certain there was less moaning on the forum.

Back in 2012 we had Millwall up next with Rickie Lambert snatching two late goals in London. I would settle for getting our next 3 points done and dusted a bit earlier in our next game against Boro, and hopefully we can keep the pressure on the division leaders.

 

[Holmes_and_Watson]

9 minutes ago, Ted Bates Statue said:

Seeing as we now have no games for ages, felt it would be a good time to check in on Minsk's old thread, with a brief comparison to see how we are shaping up against the promotion league table of 2011-12.

Back then with ten games to go, we just beat Barnsley 2-0 having drawn 1-1 with Ipswich in the previous game. With 20 wins, 9 draws and 7 defeats that leaves us with 69 points at the same stage we are now.

Having won 22, drawn 7 and lost 7 this season on 73 points, we are 4 points better off today, but we are in 4th place as opposed to being the division leaders, which maybe explains why it felt a bit more enjoyable back then. I'm reasonably certain there was less moaning on the forum.

Back in 2012 we had Millwall up next with Rickie Lambert snatching two late goals in London. I would settle for getting our next 3 points done and dusted a bit earlier in our next game against Boro, and hopefully we can keep the pressure on the division leaders.

 

Thanks for posting that. This is a thread I think of often on game days.

[Suhari]

Nice to see this bumped, and thanks for the updated info.

 

 

[Pamplemousse]

13 hours ago, Ted Bates Statue said:

Seeing as we now have no games for ages, felt it would be a good time to check in on Minsk's old thread, with a brief comparison to see how we are shaping up against the promotion league table of 2011-12.

Back then with ten games to go, we just beat Barnsley 2-0 having drawn 1-1 with Ipswich in the previous game. With 20 wins, 9 draws and 7 defeats that leaves us with 69 points at the same stage we are now.

Having won 22, drawn 7 and lost 7 this season on 73 points, we are 4 points better off today, but we are in 4th place as opposed to being the division leaders, which maybe explains why it felt a bit more enjoyable back then. I'm reasonably certain there was less moaning on the forum.

Back in 2012 we had Millwall up next with Rickie Lambert snatching two late goals in London. I would settle for getting our next 3 points done and dusted a bit earlier in our next game against Boro, and hopefully we can keep the pressure on the division leaders.

 

How far back were Reading and West Ham? I remember Reading coming from absolutely nowhere and going on a mad winning run

[S-Clarke]

33 minutes ago, Pamplemousse said:

How far back were Reading and West Ham? I remember Reading coming from absolutely nowhere and going on a mad winning run

Going back as far as match day 30, Reading were 6th, 10 points off the top - WHU were four points clear at the top at that stage

WHU were always up there, if anything it was them who collapsed to let Reading in.

[Picard]

Anyone up for it for this season?

[Ted Bates Statue]

45 minutes ago, Picard said:

Anyone up for it for this season?

Very good of you to put yourself forward 😉

Either way, I'm going to keep an eye on the 12-13 season results as my comparison season for a newly promoted Saints side, but seeing as I remember our start quite well (LLLL) I'm not sure there's much to learn from the first few rounds. At least back then, we knew from the first match against Man City that we were decent up front. Who knows if Armstrong can build on his confidence and we can provide the service to him and Brereton, but I don't have much hope of getting points until the summer has long ended.

Happy to chip in with the occasional post, but if it looks like we're going to sink like last time with mid-20 points or fewer, I'll probably give it a miss this season. I think it's rather telling that there are no posts in this thread from our last season in the PL. I know at the time I was comparing ourselves with the 2004-05 relegation side and we didn't even get close to their 32 points, which was my previous benchmark for a pretty dismal season. Come to think of it, that might be a better option than 2012-13.