os862saints Posted 5 September, 2021 Share Posted 5 September, 2021 Like to think we could get something here but they're in great form currently and we never seem to pick up points against them. Antonio is on fire atm and thier new CAM Vlasic could make an appearance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 5 September, 2021 Share Posted 5 September, 2021 Good team with a good manager. Also another one of our bogey teams. Point would be a good result. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 5 September, 2021 Share Posted 5 September, 2021 Part four of ‘fixtures we never win’. I’d take a point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris cooper Posted 5 September, 2021 Share Posted 5 September, 2021 We will get bullied like we do every time we face West Ham.. DcL for Everton bullied salisu in the air to every ball both times we faced them at goodison .. Antonio looks at this fixture and knows he has our back line trembling with fear ..I’m hoping with a new look saints we can play between the lines and exploit the flanks especially up the right with tino at RB and finally get a result against them ..benraima should have scored for them here last season missed a sitter ..we rode our luck last season ..high line and Armstrong running in behind will be order of the day I suspect! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 5 September, 2021 Share Posted 5 September, 2021 51 minutes ago, Turkish said: Good team with a good manager. Also another one of our bogey teams. Point would be a good result. This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarisbury Saint Posted 5 September, 2021 Share Posted 5 September, 2021 Always seem to draw this game at home, so I’m going for another scrappy 1 v 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 5 September, 2021 Share Posted 5 September, 2021 They've got their first Europa League game on Thursday. Hopefully Romeu getting into them early will cause a bit of panic. Think we'll win and actually it'll be quite comfortable in the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 5 September, 2021 Share Posted 5 September, 2021 This game could be an interesting pointer to see how far we've come in a short space. We got bullied by them at the end of last season. I'd personally go for more pace and physicality against Antonio, so I'd drop Stephens for Lyanco - but I reckon Stephens will continue to start, I think he's got that slot at the mo and he'll keep it for the time being. Romeu in midfield will be important, Diallo and JWP last season just couldn't get close. We need some physicality in there. That's still my worry with the squad - after Romeu we have no real physical midfielders. Adams and Armstrong should keep their centre backs honest, I expect Zouma will start. We'll probably create openings, I just hope we're clinical enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 5 September, 2021 Share Posted 5 September, 2021 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Pamplemousse said: They've got their first Europa League game on Thursday. Hopefully Romeu getting into them early will cause a bit of panic. Not this coming Thursday, it is the Thursday after Saints play them. Edited 5 September, 2021 by Matthew Le God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 5 September, 2021 Share Posted 5 September, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Lighthouse said: Part four of ‘fixtures we never win’. I’d take a point. I'm sure when we played them last season the commentators said West Ham have picked up more points at St Mary's than they have at any other away ground , not sure over what period but think since they returned to the prem (like us) in 2012. We've lost 6 of the last 7 games against them (home and away) Edited 5 September, 2021 by JRM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 5 September, 2021 Share Posted 5 September, 2021 Is S Armstrong likely to be back? I’d say Moi deserves to keep his place on current form but would probably drop Moussa for Redmond/Tella/S Armstrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 5 September, 2021 Share Posted 5 September, 2021 12 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: Not this coming Thursday, it is the Thursday after Saints play them. Zagreb away, then they have Man Utd twice in a few days, will stretch their squad, how many players do they have on international duty? Could do with Rice picking up a knock in Poland on Wednesday night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 5 September, 2021 Share Posted 5 September, 2021 1 minute ago, for_heaven's_Saint said: Is S Armstrong likely to be back? I’d say Moi deserves to keep his place on current form but would probably drop Moussa for Redmond/Tella/S Armstrong. I read he was expected back after international break, not seen him in any training pics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 5 September, 2021 Share Posted 5 September, 2021 The big question is have they fixed the ticket/ turnstiles issue or will we all be getting a refund again? Loads of tickets still available on general sale, not surprising at the prices charged, padded seat in Kingsland a bargain £70 for this fixture. Southampton boat show on as well at the weekend could add to the traffic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 5 September, 2021 Share Posted 5 September, 2021 21 minutes ago, for_heaven's_Saint said: Is S Armstrong likely to be back? I’d say Moi deserves to keep his place on current form but would probably drop Moussa for Redmond/Tella/S Armstrong. If he's back, I imagine he'd be on the bench - no more than that. The only changes I'd make from the previous games are bringing back Perraud at left back, moving KWP to right back. Dropping Moussa and shifting Moi to the left, and moving Tino to right mid ahead of KWP. That's how I'd play it tbh. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 5 September, 2021 Share Posted 5 September, 2021 3 hours ago, Lighthouse said: Part four of ‘fixtures we never win’. I’d take a point. I see a theme. 😬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 5 September, 2021 Share Posted 5 September, 2021 2 hours ago, Matthew Le God said: Not this coming Thursday, it is the Thursday after Saints play them. Yep or the game would be a Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 5 September, 2021 Share Posted 5 September, 2021 2 hours ago, JRM said: I read he was expected back after international break, not seen him in any training pics. Yeah he ruled himself out of internationals so better not be seen on the training ground 😬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totton Saint Posted 5 September, 2021 Share Posted 5 September, 2021 3 minutes ago, Dr Who? said: Yep or the game would be a Sunday. too soon after the international break to play this Thursday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 5 September, 2021 Share Posted 5 September, 2021 10 hours ago, Lighthouse said: Part four of ‘fixtures we never win’. I’d take a point. It’s strange how every match so far has been a “we never get anything in this match” game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpsaint Posted 5 September, 2021 Share Posted 5 September, 2021 (edited) Always makes me laugh when people bank on the opponent having a European tie, cup tie, or players in a long haul international fixture that is going to result in giving us some kind of advantage - we’re Saints, we never get the fucking edge. Ever. It works against us but never for us, in all my years of watching this sorry lot. Honestly the opponents could come down with the shits the night before and we’d still struggle. They could travel from New Zealand 48 hours before the game and still beat us. West Ham could be in Kazakhstan Thursday, have a semi final Tuesday, and Antonio would still rawdog the shit out of our back line. Id happily take a score draw now if offered. Edited 5 September, 2021 by bpsaint 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris cooper Posted 5 September, 2021 Share Posted 5 September, 2021 7 minutes ago, bpsaint said: Always makes me laugh when people bank on the opponent having a European tie, cup tie, or players in a long haul international fixture that is going to result in giving us some kind of advantage - we’re Saints, we never get the fucking edge. Ever. It works against us but never for us, in all my years of watching this sorry lot. Honestly the opponents could come down with the shits the night before and we’d still struggle. They could travel from New Zealand 48 hours before the game and still beat us. West Ham could be in Kazakhstan Thursday, have a semi final Tuesday, and Antonio would still rawdog the shit out of our back line. Id happily take a score draw now if offered. Nail head bosh!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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austsaint Posted 5 September, 2021 Share Posted 5 September, 2021 10 hours ago, S-Clarke said: If he's back, I imagine he'd be on the bench - no more than that. The only changes I'd make from the previous games are bringing back Perraud at left back, moving KWP to right back. Dropping Moussa and shifting Moi to the left, and moving Tino to right mid ahead of KWP. That's how I'd play it tbh. I wish you were Ralph! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceandfriendly Posted 6 September, 2021 Share Posted 6 September, 2021 14 hours ago, S-Clarke said: If he's back, I imagine he'd be on the bench - no more than that. The only changes I'd make from the previous games are bringing back Perraud at left back, moving KWP to right back. Dropping Moussa and shifting Moi to the left, and moving Tino to right mid ahead of KWP. That's how I'd play it tbh. Would love to see this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 6 September, 2021 Share Posted 6 September, 2021 (edited) After Redmond's assist V Newcastle he'll be in the starting line up for the next 2 months. Edited 6 September, 2021 by Saint_clark 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toussaint Posted 6 September, 2021 Share Posted 6 September, 2021 8 hours ago, austsaint said: I wish you were Ralph! Minus the p doh choirmaster outfit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toussaint Posted 6 September, 2021 Share Posted 6 September, 2021 Win = 1.25 points a game average Draw = 0.75 … lose = 0.5 … My point being, we can’t keep trotting out the “games we never win” line because there are not enough games we should win to keep us up. Agreed it’s early, but we do need to pick up some wins we are not expecting us to. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 6 September, 2021 Share Posted 6 September, 2021 Could really do with a win, after the current results. But I'd take a point. Would be nice to get that first win of the season, but they are a quality side, with dangerous players across their front line. I expect Zouma will start for them. Gut says 0-2, but heart says 2-1. COYS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Corbyn Posted 6 September, 2021 Share Posted 6 September, 2021 Redmond was excellent against Newcastle, expect him to come in for Djenepo with Moi on the other side, otherwise unchanged. Antonio suffered a moral destroying 3-0 defeat to Panama this weekend so I think that'll turn things - 3-0 Saints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Posted 6 September, 2021 Share Posted 6 September, 2021 We are well provided for with international strikers (Scotlnd, Norway, Albania) all scoring at international level. But the first choice for Saints is probably the non-international, Adam Armstrong. Who should play alongside? Stick with Adams, using one or more of the others as attacking midfield? Or is it time to give Aams a rest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceandfriendly Posted 6 September, 2021 Share Posted 6 September, 2021 Forster (yeh right) KWP Stephens Salisu Perraud Romeu JWP Livramento S. Armstrong A. Armstrong Broja Wouldn't mind seeing this, but then that's harsh on Ely and Adams who have both started the season fairly well. Also there's no chance Ralph will play Livra further forward, so forget it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minsk Posted 6 September, 2021 Share Posted 6 September, 2021 Probably somewhat controversial but, If I were in Ralph's position, I would have been tempted to spend the 2 weeks between matches drilling the following team/formation: --------------Forster----------------- KWP----Stephens--Salisu----Perraud ------JWP---Romeu---Diallo-------- ------Tella-----------Redmond------ ----------A. Armstrong-------------- Basically, a team comprised of those who have not been away travelling on international duty, in a 4-3-2-1/4-3-3/4-3-1-2 (basically a fluid front 3). However, we know it will be McCarthy in goal and it will be 4-2-2-2. So wouldn't be upset with the above but with Stuey replacing Diallo (in a 10 position) if fit and Tella moving up alongside Arma. If Stuey not fit to start Che to start up top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toussaint Posted 6 September, 2021 Share Posted 6 September, 2021 2 hours ago, Minsk said: Probably somewhat controversial but, If I were in Ralph's position, I would have been tempted to spend the 2 weeks between matches drilling the following team/formation: --------------Forster----------------- KWP----Stephens--Salisu----Perraud ------JWP---Romeu---Diallo-------- ------Tella-----------Redmond------ ----------A. Armstrong-------------- Basically, a team comprised of those who have not been away travelling on international duty, in a 4-3-2-1/4-3-3/4-3-1-2 (basically a fluid front 3). However, we know it will be McCarthy in goal and it will be 4-2-2-2. So wouldn't be upset with the above but with Stuey replacing Diallo (in a 10 position) if fit and Tella moving up alongside Arma. If Stuey not fit to start Che to start up top. I have not seen much in Diallo to get me hopes up so far, but in this instance I would say Diallo is far too lightweight for this match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WALK DMC Posted 6 September, 2021 Share Posted 6 September, 2021 2 hours ago, Minsk said: Probably somewhat controversial but, If I were in Ralph's position, I would have been tempted to spend the 2 weeks between matches drilling the following team/formation: --------------Forster----------------- KWP----Stephens--Salisu----Perraud ------JWP---Romeu---Diallo-------- ------Tella-----------Redmond------ ----------A. Armstrong-------------- Basically, a team comprised of those who have not been away travelling on international duty, in a 4-3-2-1/4-3-3/4-3-1-2 (basically a fluid front 3). However, we know it will be McCarthy in goal and it will be 4-2-2-2. So wouldn't be upset with the above but with Stuey replacing Diallo (in a 10 position) if fit and Tella moving up alongside Arma. If Stuey not fit to start Che to start up top. It is an interesting suggestion. I think having JWP/Romeu/Diallo on at the same time would be a good tactical change (e.g. if we are hanging onto a goal lead), but not sure whether to start with that. When we recently played Man United, we changed to a back 5 at HT and then subsequently brought on Diallo so the three midfielders were all on the pitch at the same time. Interestingly I thought that our best period was when we played with that formation & midfielders, so it could work. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris cooper Posted 6 September, 2021 Share Posted 6 September, 2021 Forster kwp Bednerak salisu Perraud Jwp Romeu Tino Moi Adams. Armstrong ..think this to start then if we pinch a lead 1st half then change it if we become under pressure to 5 at the back bringing on Stephens and diallo.leaving Armstrong upfront on his own for the pace on the counter … 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 6 September, 2021 Share Posted 6 September, 2021 7 hours ago, Toussaint said: Win = 1.25 points a game average Draw = 0.75 … lose = 0.5 … My point being, we can’t keep trotting out the “games we never win” line because there are not enough games we should win to keep us up. Agreed it’s early, but we do need to pick up some wins we are not expecting us to. ...and we will. 3-1 to Saints with a proviso that we must go in at HT 2-0 up. Expect an unchanged team form the toon trip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Mikey Posted 6 September, 2021 Share Posted 6 September, 2021 6 hours ago, Jeremy Corbyn said: Redmond was excellent against Newcastle, expect him to come in for Djenepo with Moi on the other side, otherwise unchanged. Antonio suffered a moral destroying 3-0 defeat to Panama this weekend so I think that'll turn things - 3-0 Saints. Indeed. May work in our favour: https://www.hammers.news/international/west-ham-star-michail-antonio-lasts-just-70-minutes-of-international-debut-for-woeful-jamaica-after-10500-mile-round-trip/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 6 September, 2021 Share Posted 6 September, 2021 I’d go for the following. Macca Tino Stephens Salisu KWP Romeu JWP Armstrong Adams Armstrong Redmond Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 6 September, 2021 Share Posted 6 September, 2021 2 hours ago, Saint Mikey said: Indeed. May work in our favour: https://www.hammers.news/international/west-ham-star-michail-antonio-lasts-just-70-minutes-of-international-debut-for-woeful-jamaica-after-10500-mile-round-trip/ Every little helps. International football is crazy really, long distances for 70 mins football, hopefully he picked up a knock. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodsaint1 Posted 6 September, 2021 Share Posted 6 September, 2021 Id go with..... Forster (but it wont be) Tino Salisu Stephens Perraud Armstrong Romeu JWP Elyounoussi Armstrong Adams 2-1 Saints - Both Armstrongs 👍🏻 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteCampbell Posted 7 September, 2021 Share Posted 7 September, 2021 13 hours ago, Chris cooper said: Forster kwp Bednerak salisu Perraud Jwp Romeu Tino Moi Adams. Armstrong ..think this to start then if we pinch a lead 1st half then change it if we become under pressure to 5 at the back bringing on Stephens and diallo.leaving Armstrong upfront on his own for the pace on the counter … Agree with this side. Would like to see Bednerek start with Salisu. Redmond off the bench at the 60th minute mark. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 7 September, 2021 Share Posted 7 September, 2021 14 hours ago, JRM said: Every little helps. International football is crazy really, long distances for 70 mins football, hopefully he picked up a knock. Reading that article I didn't realise he was 31. Let's hope playing on those hard pitches and a bit of jet lag do enough to blunt his edge even if he didn't pick up a knock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 7 September, 2021 Share Posted 7 September, 2021 4 hours ago, PeteCampbell said: Agree with this side. Would like to see Bednerek start with Salisu. Redmond off the bench at the 60th minute mark. Me too. I'm afraid Djenepo is too risky pretty much anytime except as impact sub. Will be amazed if Ralph sees sense and picks Forster in goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWar Posted 7 September, 2021 Share Posted 7 September, 2021 (edited) We are creating pretty well this season considering the teams we've faced. D Dropping Adams would be a massive error given he is doing very well for xA (around the level of Grealish, Pogba, Richarlison). This mainly just shows we need to finish our chances (See Djenepo's formidable xG). Perraud and Livramento have both been very good for me so while I like KWP I'd keep him benched for now. Forster Livramento Stephens Salisu Perraud JWP Romeu S. Armstrong Moi Adams A. Armstrong Probably our strongest team right now, Moi shouldn't be dropped after scoring 4 in his last two for saints and then also scoring for his country. Edited 7 September, 2021 by TWar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErwinK1961 Posted 7 September, 2021 Share Posted 7 September, 2021 1 hour ago, TWar said: We are creating pretty well this season considering the teams we've faced. D Dropping Adams would be a massive error given he is doing very well for xA (around the level of Grealish, Pogba, Richarlison). This mainly just shows we need to finish our chances (See Djenepo's formidable xG). Perraud and Livramento have both been very good for me so while I like KWP I'd keep him benched for now. Forster Livramento Stephens Salisu Perraud JWP Romeu S. Armstrong Moi Adams A. Armstrong Probably our strongest team right now, Moi shouldn't be dropped after scoring 4 in his last two for saints and for his country. Can't wait for Ducky and co to respond to this... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 7 September, 2021 Share Posted 7 September, 2021 1 hour ago, TWar said: We are creating pretty well this season considering the teams we've faced. D Dropping Adams would be a massive error given he is doing very well for xA (around the level of Grealish, Pogba, Richarlison). This mainly just shows we need to finish our chances (See Djenepo's formidable xG). Perraud and Livramento have both been very good for me so while I like KWP I'd keep him benched for now. Forster Livramento Stephens Salisu Perraud JWP Romeu S. Armstrong Moi Adams A. Armstrong Probably our strongest team right now, Moi shouldn't be dropped after scoring 4 in his last two for saints and for his country. BBB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottish-Saint Posted 7 September, 2021 Share Posted 7 September, 2021 There’s now a statement on the turnstile issues at the ManU game and what has been done to resolve them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 7 September, 2021 Share Posted 7 September, 2021 Everything in our favour here. Westham superior all over the park, Westham second in the form table, Westham haven't lost to us in 7? Meetings... Erm what was I saying? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 7 September, 2021 Share Posted 7 September, 2021 This will be a real test, I think they will be too much for us. That said a point against united was an unexpected result! Just wish we had a decent shot stopper in goal and a real no nonsence shit house in midfield that could bully them 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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