Saint Billy Posted 17 January, 2022 Share Posted 17 January, 2022 12 hours ago, Matthew Le God said: Because they are currently on thin ice! It's fallen through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 17 January, 2022 Share Posted 17 January, 2022 Man City, Spurs and Man United are all keeping tabs on on Southampton skipper James Ward-Prowse. Reports claim that Tottenham, in particular, have been monitoring the development of the English international for a long time. #saintsfc uh oh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 17 January, 2022 Share Posted 17 January, 2022 33 minutes ago, DT said: Man City, Spurs and Man United are all keeping tabs on on Southampton skipper James Ward-Prowse. Reports claim that Tottenham, in particular, have been monitoring the development of the English international for a long time. #saintsfc uh oh Of course they are. Clubs keep tabs on loads of players. It's not even news. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 17 January, 2022 Share Posted 17 January, 2022 34 minutes ago, DT said: Man City, Spurs and Man United are all keeping tabs on on Southampton skipper James Ward-Prowse. Reports claim that Tottenham, in particular, have been monitoring the development of the English international for a long time. #saintsfc uh oh Of course he will have been monitored for a long time by these clubs. I think the club would be totally relaxed about any interest in JWP. The fact we extended his contract means if we were to sell him in the next couple of years we could name the price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toussaint Posted 17 January, 2022 Share Posted 17 January, 2022 1 hour ago, Saint Billy said: It's fallen through. Let’s it go, let it go….🎶 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWar Posted 17 January, 2022 Share Posted 17 January, 2022 48 minutes ago, DT said: Man City, Spurs and Man United are all keeping tabs on on Southampton skipper James Ward-Prowse. Reports claim that Tottenham, in particular, have been monitoring the development of the English international for a long time. #saintsfc uh oh Bout time he got more respect and suitors. Not worried though, just signed a new contract so would be stupid money in order to get him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellman Posted 17 January, 2022 Share Posted 17 January, 2022 26 minutes ago, TWar said: Bout time he got more respect and suitors. Not worried though, just signed a new contract so would be stupid money in order to get him. At last he is getting some respect from our own fans. He's been rubbished on this Forum for ages. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWar Posted 17 January, 2022 Share Posted 17 January, 2022 1 minute ago, Dellman said: At last he is getting some respect from our own fans. He's been rubbished on this Forum for ages. A lot of the people on this forum are anti-saints. Either because they are trolls, they have wildly unrealistic expectations, or because it helps vent frustration. They will go against the manager and the captain as they get the most bites. Also new signings. Most were pro Broja as he was a loan but will be interesting to see how quick they turn on him if he becomes a permanent signing. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nta786 Posted 17 January, 2022 Share Posted 17 January, 2022 2 hours ago, DT said: Man City, Spurs and Man United are all keeping tabs on on Southampton skipper James Ward-Prowse. Reports claim that Tottenham, in particular, have been monitoring the development of the English international for a long time. #saintsfc uh oh Pfft Spurs don't worry me at all... I'd set the starting price at £75m if they paid £55m for Tanguy Ndombele... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toussaint Posted 17 January, 2022 Share Posted 17 January, 2022 2 hours ago, DT said: Man City, Spurs and Man United are all keeping tabs on on Southampton skipper James Ward-Prowse. Reports claim that Tottenham, in particular, have been monitoring the development of the English international for a long time. #saintsfc uh oh I think this will be his last season for us, but I hope he is aiming higher than Spurs. I always saw him as a Man utd player, assuming they sort themselves out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 17 January, 2022 Share Posted 17 January, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 17 January, 2022 Share Posted 17 January, 2022 Just now, SuperSAINT said: Another S. Armstrong in the squad would be too confusing for everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuel Posted 17 January, 2022 Share Posted 17 January, 2022 1 hour ago, Dellman said: At last he is getting some respect from our own fans. He's been rubbished on this Forum for ages. I think he has significantly improved. When Ralph first came it was Prowse who used the phrase "no more Mr Nice Guy" and was immediately more aggressive in his play. You can see his game is better in all areas and his fitness now is above any other. Probably in his prime now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 17 January, 2022 Share Posted 17 January, 2022 2 hours ago, Dellman said: At last he is getting some respect from our own fans. He's been rubbished by a vocal minority on this Forum for ages. Tweaked it for you 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scummer Posted 17 January, 2022 Share Posted 17 January, 2022 21 hours ago, Lee On Solent Saint said: I wonder if we are in the mix for Ericksen? Rumours of a few Premier league teams looking I thought he may be out of range for us, but the news today is that Brentford are trying to sign him. He'd potentially be a great option for Saints, in a position we have been struggling a bit with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BERMUDASAINT Posted 17 January, 2022 Share Posted 17 January, 2022 2 hours ago, Manuel said: I think he has significantly improved. When Ralph first came it was Prowse who used the phrase "no more Mr Nice Guy" and was immediately more aggressive in his play. You can see his game is better in all areas and his fitness now is above any other. Probably in his prime now. But we would not have seen him if people were not as patient as the managers and board. We would not have the best free kick taker in the world, we would not have the energizer bunny JWP that keep on going and going.......all because so many of you are experts in players future abilities. Please give our players support, the manager will decide if they are worthy of our badge. Our job is to support the team, encourage them, keep their confidence up. We should not be there to tear down our own players. That is like sending boys to war and telling them they are shit, usless and will die out there. It does not help the troops, it will not help the players. We can discuss player abilities, everyone has their opinions, but to denigrate them on field is not on! To write off young players who we hope will become stars is fool hardy, we just got to back them until they are out the door. Then we can talk smack about them.....if you are so inclined. My hopes are dej, moi, gorilla, Adam A, tella and even the long suffering Reds and Beds can improve to be important players for us. All saints players need supporting......... until they are gone. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevy777_x Posted 17 January, 2022 Share Posted 17 January, 2022 7 minutes ago, BERMUDASAINT said: But we would not have seen him if people were not as patient as the managers and board. We would not have the best free kick taker in the world, we would not have the energizer bunny JWP that keep on going and going.......all because so many of you are experts in players future abilities. Please give our players support, the manager will decide if they are worthy of our badge. Our job is to support the team, encourage them, keep their confidence up. We should not be there to tear down our own players. That is like sending boys to war and telling them they are shit, usless and will die out there. It does not help the troops, it will not help the players. We can discuss player abilities, everyone has their opinions, but to denigrate them on field is not on! To write off young players who we hope will become stars is fool hardy, we just got to back them until they are out the door. Then we can talk smack about them.....if you are so inclined. My hopes are dej, moi, gorilla, Adam A, tella and even the long suffering Reds and Beds can improve to be important players for us. All saints players need supporting......... until they are gone. Don t forget also Mark Hugues s appalling treatment of JWP where he nearly left at the time to Watford for 15 mil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman Posted 17 January, 2022 Share Posted 17 January, 2022 4 hours ago, TWar said: A lot of the people on this forum are anti-saints. Either because they are trolls, they have wildly unrealistic expectations, or because it helps vent frustration. They will go against the manager and the captain as they get the most bites. Also new signings. Most were pro Broja as he was a loan but will be interesting to see how quick they turn on him if he becomes a permanent signing. Or they could see pretty much from the off that the kid was a star in the making. Your attempted defence of the indefensible (higher ceiling comment) is astounding. It was a silly shout you rushed in with, more than likely because he’s not our player, just own it. No need to respond with your bulk standard responses we see every thread. Going against the narrative doesn’t make you a troll, ‘anti-saints’ or looking for bites. Without causing the thread to run completely off topic, given our form before this season, it was very fair to question the manager. In response to those clubs looking at JWP, I don’t see it happening. Maybe tottenham, but in my opinion, he wouldn’t be worth the money we’d command for him, which would put clubs off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodymatt Posted 17 January, 2022 Share Posted 17 January, 2022 Do this much noise making it more or less likely do we think? It’s unusual for us to take this approach. Didn’t work out as we wanted with Danny Ings for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuel Posted 17 January, 2022 Share Posted 17 January, 2022 16 minutes ago, BERMUDASAINT said: But we would not have seen him if people were not as patient as the managers and board. We would not have the best free kick taker in the world, we would not have the energizer bunny JWP that keep on going and going.......all because so many of you are experts in players future abilities. Please give our players support, the manager will decide if they are worthy of our badge. Our job is to support the team, encourage them, keep their confidence up. We should not be there to tear down our own players. That is like sending boys to war and telling them they are shit, usless and will die out there. It does not help the troops, it will not help the players. We can discuss player abilities, everyone has their opinions, but to denigrate them on field is not on! To write off young players who we hope will become stars is fool hardy, we just got to back them until they are out the door. Then we can talk smack about them.....if you are so inclined. My hopes are dej, moi, gorilla, Adam A, tella and even the long suffering Reds and Beds can improve to be important players for us. All saints players need supporting......... until they are gone. I agree, but Dellman was talking about the forum. There's a difference between discussing a player's ability on here and abusing them on the pitch. I can only remember swearing at one of our players once, as it happens. That was Nigel Quashie after he had a shot saved and seemed to want to stand offside to contemplate it, rather than getting himself back onside and continue with the game, with the ball still very much in play. The silly sod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman Posted 17 January, 2022 Share Posted 17 January, 2022 2 minutes ago, goodymatt said: Do this much noise making it more or less likely do we think? It’s unusual for us to take this approach. Didn’t work out as we wanted with Danny Ings for example. Possibly new owners wanting to appease the fans? Possible it’s coming from Broja camp to drum up other interest, or for Chelsea to commit. Whatever it is, I hope we can get it done. Even with a buy back, at 20m that would be a very good bit of business. We won’t be able to attract anyone better than him. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy the Kidd Posted 17 January, 2022 Share Posted 17 January, 2022 Ypp. for me there is no issue with the buy back. We spent £15m on AA, who may come good, but currently is no where near what Broja is doing right now. So in that sense, we would be getting a player proven with us, that we know we are able to turn a tidy profit on. Call it a development fee for Chelsea or whatever, if we get a couple more years of him and a profit to boot, gotta be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 17 January, 2022 Share Posted 17 January, 2022 37 minutes ago, stevy777_x said: Don t forget also Mark Hugues s appalling treatment of JWP where he nearly left at the time to Watford for 15 mil I remember one of Mark Hughes press conferences. Ward Prowse? Get him out of my sight. A good son in law yes but f**king not what you need in the trenches. Wesley Hoedt, though? Absolute mint. 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman Posted 17 January, 2022 Share Posted 17 January, 2022 United also ‘apparently’ planning a move for John McGinn. Won’t go down well on here I expect as he’s an unfashionable name, but he’s a top player. Similar sort of style to JWP, maybe just a little more attack minded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 17 January, 2022 Share Posted 17 January, 2022 Just now, Dman said: United also ‘apparently’ planning a move for John McGinn. Won’t go down well on here I expect as he’s an unfashionable name, but he’s a top player. Similar sort of style to JWP, maybe just a little more attack minded. Wouldn't get in our squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman Posted 17 January, 2022 Share Posted 17 January, 2022 1 minute ago, Turkish said: Wouldn't get in our squad. No chance! Give me will smallbone any day 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddeer Posted 17 January, 2022 Share Posted 17 January, 2022 7 hours ago, DT said: Man City, Spurs and Man United are all keeping tabs on on Southampton skipper James Ward-Prowse. Reports claim that Tottenham, in particular, have been monitoring the development of the English international for a long time. #saintsfc uh oh If they've been monitoring him for a long time why haven't they put in a bid? It's not as though there is much they can't know about JWP so why would they need to monitor him for a long time. Lazy journalism. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malcolm waldron Posted 17 January, 2022 Share Posted 17 January, 2022 1 hour ago, Dman said: United also ‘apparently’ planning a move for John McGinn. Won’t go down well on here I expect as he’s an unfashionable name, but he’s a top player. Similar sort of style to JWP, maybe just a little more attack minded. Isn't he unavailable this weekend? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 17 January, 2022 Share Posted 17 January, 2022 Sounds like it's Brentford who are the club trying for Christan Eriksen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorchester Saint Posted 17 January, 2022 Share Posted 17 January, 2022 (edited) This Broja situation gives me nightmares of the Alderweireld loan in that he was so nearly our player and then Spurs came in and took him….I hope the new owners can (A) Reach an agreement where Chelsea will sell and (B) Stump up the cash required to nab him. We won’t get a better chance to sign a player of his ability, it’s frightening how brilliant he could be in a couple of years time!! Edited 17 January, 2022 by Dorchester Saint 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 17 January, 2022 Share Posted 17 January, 2022 1 minute ago, Dorchester Saint said: This Broja situation gives me nightmares of the Alderweireld loan in that he was so nearly our player and then Spurs came in and took him….I hope the new owners can (A) Reach an agreement where Chelsea will sell and (B) Stump up the cash required to nab him. We won’t get a better chance to sign a player if his ability and his potential ability in a few years is HUGE!! If we get A then B should follow unless we have lied in A? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 17 January, 2022 Share Posted 17 January, 2022 2 minutes ago, Dorchester Saint said: This Broja situation gives me nightmares of the Alderweireld loan in that he was so nearly our player and then Spurs came in and took him….I hope the new owners can (A) Reach an agreement where Chelsea will sell and (B) Stump up the cash required to nab him. We won’t get a better chance to sign a player of his ability, it’s frightening how brilliant he could be in a couple of years time!! Unfortunately if we rely on the fans on here we'd have paid £20m for the lad we sold to Swansea had he been on loan here. Broja has great potential but we must not get carried away and buy at any price. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted 17 January, 2022 Share Posted 17 January, 2022 36 minutes ago, Dorchester Saint said: This Broja situation gives me nightmares of the Alderweireld loan in that he was so nearly our player and then Spurs came in and took him….I hope the new owners can (A) Reach an agreement where Chelsea will sell and (B) Stump up the cash required to nab him. We won’t get a better chance to sign a player of his ability, it’s frightening how brilliant he could be in a couple of years time!! I don't think they're similar at all. With Toby, we had a binding agreement that they went back on. With Broja, there is no argeement and Chelsea are well within their legal and moral rights to tell us where to go and (as far as we know) haven't misled us at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 17 January, 2022 Share Posted 17 January, 2022 If we’re looking for a centre-back in the summer to loan from our buddies Chelsea… (local lad, too). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWar Posted 17 January, 2022 Share Posted 17 January, 2022 2 hours ago, Dman said: United also ‘apparently’ planning a move for John McGinn. Won’t go down well on here I expect as he’s an unfashionable name, but he’s a top player. Similar sort of style to JWP, maybe just a little more attack minded. Wildly overrated player. Wouldn't get anywhere near our starting 11 let alone uniteds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 17 January, 2022 Share Posted 17 January, 2022 23 minutes ago, TWar said: Wildly overrated player. Wouldn't get anywhere near our starting 11 let alone uniteds. Wouldn't be any good to us anyway if he's always suspended. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 17 January, 2022 Share Posted 17 January, 2022 29 minutes ago, TWar said: Wildly overrated player. Wouldn't get anywhere near our starting 11 let alone uniteds. Wouldn't get anywhere near our starting 11? wtf? For real? He'd be in my team without question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 17 January, 2022 Share Posted 17 January, 2022 33 minutes ago, TWar said: Wildly overrated player. Wouldn't get anywhere near our starting 11 let alone uniteds. 3 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: Wouldn't get anywhere near our starting 11? wtf? For real? He'd be in my team without question. I'd rather have Ward-Prowse and Romeu. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWar Posted 17 January, 2022 Share Posted 17 January, 2022 1 minute ago, Matthew Le God said: I'd rather have Ward-Prowse and Romeu. Same, by a mile. JWP is better than him in basically every way and Romeu is much better defensively, so I really don't know where he would fit into our pairing. If we played a midfield 3 I guess he could start but we don't so he doesn't. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 17 January, 2022 Share Posted 17 January, 2022 8 hours ago, nta786 said: Pfft Spurs don't worry me at all... I'd set the starting price at £75m if they paid £55m for Tanguy Ndombele... Man Utd don't particularly worry me either, they are all over the place and I can't see him going there to be honest. I feel JWP is quite switched on and would only move for a very top notch manager and pretty much guaranteed trophies. That to me says Man City, maybe Utd if they managed to sort the mess out and got someone like Poch in, but even then not so sure, Liverpool would be another obviously, but I don't think they are going to pay the fee, they have contracts to worry about so I don't think they have like the £70 million it would need. Personally I reckon now he has signed a new deal and he's clearly people are noticing that he's a very good player I think his value is probably the highest it has been. I think the club would be expecting Maguire levels of money. English, good age, captain, world class set piece taker, exemplary fitness levels. no history of injuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 17 January, 2022 Share Posted 17 January, 2022 We should be doing what West Ham are doing with Rice. His price was £60m, then £80, then £100m, now it’s £200m. Highly likely he goes less than that, but he’s worth £80-100m to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee On Solent Saint Posted 17 January, 2022 Share Posted 17 January, 2022 11 minutes ago, tajjuk said: Man Utd don't particularly worry me either, they are all over the place and I can't see him going there to be honest. I feel JWP is quite switched on and would only move for a very top notch manager and pretty much guaranteed trophies. That to me says Man City, maybe Utd if they managed to sort the mess out and got someone like Poch in, but even then not so sure, Liverpool would be another obviously, but I don't think they are going to pay the fee, they have contracts to worry about so I don't think they have like the £70 million it would need. Personally I reckon now he has signed a new deal and he's clearly people are noticing that he's a very good player I think his value is probably the highest it has been. I think the club would be expecting Maguire levels of money. English, good age, captain, world class set piece taker, exemplary fitness levels. no history of injuries. If Poch ends up at United in the summer, could be interesting 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golac's Cunning Stunts Posted 17 January, 2022 Share Posted 17 January, 2022 42 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: Wouldn't get anywhere near our starting 11? wtf? For real? He'd be in my team without question. Twar has some wierd dislike for Villa. McGinn would go straight in to our side no question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 17 January, 2022 Share Posted 17 January, 2022 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Golac's Cunning Stunts said: Twar has some wierd dislike for Villa. McGinn would go straight in to our side no question. Instead of who? Ward-Prowse or Romeu? McGinn wouldn't play in the Romeu role... so his competition is Ward-Prowse and I wouldn't be playing McGinn rather than Ward-Prowse. Edited 17 January, 2022 by Matthew Le God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 17 January, 2022 Share Posted 17 January, 2022 36 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: Instead of who? Ward-Prowse or Romeu? McGinn wouldn't play in the Romeu role... so his competition is Ward-Prowse and I wouldn't be playing McGinn rather than Ward-Prowse. One of the 3 in midfield, or as one of the 10s if we go mental with the 4222 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWar Posted 17 January, 2022 Share Posted 17 January, 2022 12 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: One of the 3 in midfield, or as one of the 10s if we go mental with the 4222 John Mcginn is decidedly not a 10. 56 minutes ago, Golac's Cunning Stunts said: Twar has some wierd dislike for Villa. McGinn would go straight in to our side no question. I don't, I just think a lot of their players are overrated as people didn't notice how much Grealish carried them. They are a mid table side who people think is European level for absolutely no reason. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 17 January, 2022 Share Posted 17 January, 2022 20 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: One of the 3 in midfield, or as one of the 10s if we go mental with the 4222 When has he ever played in that role effectively? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 17 January, 2022 Share Posted 17 January, 2022 What's all this McGinn nonsense? Has he been linked to us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallagroth Posted 17 January, 2022 Share Posted 17 January, 2022 As disappointed as I would be, If a champions league club comes in for him in summer I would wish him well and even encourage him to take the opportunity. he has been a great servant and chosen to stay when offered moves before but he has earned a realistic shot at some big trophies and a regular England spot. If we get fairly compensated in the process then we can’t really complain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErwinK1961 Posted 17 January, 2022 Share Posted 17 January, 2022 5 minutes ago, egg said: What's all this McGinn nonsense? Has he been linked to us? All I know is he’s suspended. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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