Saint Billy Posted 17 January, 2022 Posted 17 January, 2022 On 16/01/2022 at 18:03, Matthew Le God said: Because they are currently on thin ice! Expand It's fallen through.
DT Posted 17 January, 2022 Posted 17 January, 2022 Man City, Spurs and Man United are all keeping tabs on on Southampton skipper James Ward-Prowse. Reports claim that Tottenham, in particular, have been monitoring the development of the English international for a long time. #saintsfc uh oh
The Cat Posted 17 January, 2022 Posted 17 January, 2022 On 17/01/2022 at 07:19, DT said: Man City, Spurs and Man United are all keeping tabs on on Southampton skipper James Ward-Prowse. Reports claim that Tottenham, in particular, have been monitoring the development of the English international for a long time. #saintsfc uh oh Expand Of course they are. Clubs keep tabs on loads of players. It's not even news. 2
Dusic Posted 17 January, 2022 Posted 17 January, 2022 On 17/01/2022 at 07:19, DT said: Man City, Spurs and Man United are all keeping tabs on on Southampton skipper James Ward-Prowse. Reports claim that Tottenham, in particular, have been monitoring the development of the English international for a long time. #saintsfc uh oh Expand Of course he will have been monitored for a long time by these clubs. I think the club would be totally relaxed about any interest in JWP. The fact we extended his contract means if we were to sell him in the next couple of years we could name the price.
Toussaint Posted 17 January, 2022 Posted 17 January, 2022 On 17/01/2022 at 06:45, Saint Billy said: It's fallen through. Expand Let’s it go, let it go….🎶
TWar Posted 17 January, 2022 Posted 17 January, 2022 On 17/01/2022 at 07:19, DT said: Man City, Spurs and Man United are all keeping tabs on on Southampton skipper James Ward-Prowse. Reports claim that Tottenham, in particular, have been monitoring the development of the English international for a long time. #saintsfc uh oh Expand Bout time he got more respect and suitors. Not worried though, just signed a new contract so would be stupid money in order to get him. 2
Dellman Posted 17 January, 2022 Posted 17 January, 2022 On 17/01/2022 at 08:09, TWar said: Bout time he got more respect and suitors. Not worried though, just signed a new contract so would be stupid money in order to get him. Expand At last he is getting some respect from our own fans. He's been rubbished on this Forum for ages. 3
TWar Posted 17 January, 2022 Posted 17 January, 2022 On 17/01/2022 at 08:37, Dellman said: At last he is getting some respect from our own fans. He's been rubbished on this Forum for ages. Expand A lot of the people on this forum are anti-saints. Either because they are trolls, they have wildly unrealistic expectations, or because it helps vent frustration. They will go against the manager and the captain as they get the most bites. Also new signings. Most were pro Broja as he was a loan but will be interesting to see how quick they turn on him if he becomes a permanent signing. 3
nta786 Posted 17 January, 2022 Posted 17 January, 2022 On 17/01/2022 at 07:19, DT said: Man City, Spurs and Man United are all keeping tabs on on Southampton skipper James Ward-Prowse. Reports claim that Tottenham, in particular, have been monitoring the development of the English international for a long time. #saintsfc uh oh Expand Pfft Spurs don't worry me at all... I'd set the starting price at £75m if they paid £55m for Tanguy Ndombele...
Toussaint Posted 17 January, 2022 Posted 17 January, 2022 On 17/01/2022 at 07:19, DT said: Man City, Spurs and Man United are all keeping tabs on on Southampton skipper James Ward-Prowse. Reports claim that Tottenham, in particular, have been monitoring the development of the English international for a long time. #saintsfc uh oh Expand I think this will be his last season for us, but I hope he is aiming higher than Spurs. I always saw him as a Man utd player, assuming they sort themselves out.
Sheaf Saint Posted 17 January, 2022 Posted 17 January, 2022 On 17/01/2022 at 10:14, SuperSAINT said: Expand Another S. Armstrong in the squad would be too confusing for everyone.
Manuel Posted 17 January, 2022 Posted 17 January, 2022 On 17/01/2022 at 08:37, Dellman said: At last he is getting some respect from our own fans. He's been rubbished on this Forum for ages. Expand I think he has significantly improved. When Ralph first came it was Prowse who used the phrase "no more Mr Nice Guy" and was immediately more aggressive in his play. You can see his game is better in all areas and his fitness now is above any other. Probably in his prime now.
trousers Posted 17 January, 2022 Posted 17 January, 2022 On 17/01/2022 at 08:37, Dellman said: At last he is getting some respect from our own fans. He's been rubbished by a vocal minority on this Forum for ages. Expand Tweaked it for you 2
Scummer Posted 17 January, 2022 Posted 17 January, 2022 On 16/01/2022 at 13:42, Lee On Solent Saint said: I wonder if we are in the mix for Ericksen? Rumours of a few Premier league teams looking Expand I thought he may be out of range for us, but the news today is that Brentford are trying to sign him. He'd potentially be a great option for Saints, in a position we have been struggling a bit with
BERMUDASAINT Posted 17 January, 2022 Posted 17 January, 2022 On 17/01/2022 at 10:21, Manuel said: I think he has significantly improved. When Ralph first came it was Prowse who used the phrase "no more Mr Nice Guy" and was immediately more aggressive in his play. You can see his game is better in all areas and his fitness now is above any other. Probably in his prime now. Expand But we would not have seen him if people were not as patient as the managers and board. We would not have the best free kick taker in the world, we would not have the energizer bunny JWP that keep on going and going.......all because so many of you are experts in players future abilities. Please give our players support, the manager will decide if they are worthy of our badge. Our job is to support the team, encourage them, keep their confidence up. We should not be there to tear down our own players. That is like sending boys to war and telling them they are shit, usless and will die out there. It does not help the troops, it will not help the players. We can discuss player abilities, everyone has their opinions, but to denigrate them on field is not on! To write off young players who we hope will become stars is fool hardy, we just got to back them until they are out the door. Then we can talk smack about them.....if you are so inclined. My hopes are dej, moi, gorilla, Adam A, tella and even the long suffering Reds and Beds can improve to be important players for us. All saints players need supporting......... until they are gone. 2
stevy777_x Posted 17 January, 2022 Posted 17 January, 2022 On 17/01/2022 at 13:32, BERMUDASAINT said: But we would not have seen him if people were not as patient as the managers and board. We would not have the best free kick taker in the world, we would not have the energizer bunny JWP that keep on going and going.......all because so many of you are experts in players future abilities. Please give our players support, the manager will decide if they are worthy of our badge. Our job is to support the team, encourage them, keep their confidence up. We should not be there to tear down our own players. That is like sending boys to war and telling them they are shit, usless and will die out there. It does not help the troops, it will not help the players. We can discuss player abilities, everyone has their opinions, but to denigrate them on field is not on! To write off young players who we hope will become stars is fool hardy, we just got to back them until they are out the door. Then we can talk smack about them.....if you are so inclined. My hopes are dej, moi, gorilla, Adam A, tella and even the long suffering Reds and Beds can improve to be important players for us. All saints players need supporting......... until they are gone. Expand Don t forget also Mark Hugues s appalling treatment of JWP where he nearly left at the time to Watford for 15 mil
Dman Posted 17 January, 2022 Posted 17 January, 2022 On 17/01/2022 at 08:41, TWar said: A lot of the people on this forum are anti-saints. Either because they are trolls, they have wildly unrealistic expectations, or because it helps vent frustration. They will go against the manager and the captain as they get the most bites. Also new signings. Most were pro Broja as he was a loan but will be interesting to see how quick they turn on him if he becomes a permanent signing. Expand Or they could see pretty much from the off that the kid was a star in the making. Your attempted defence of the indefensible (higher ceiling comment) is astounding. It was a silly shout you rushed in with, more than likely because he’s not our player, just own it. No need to respond with your bulk standard responses we see every thread. Going against the narrative doesn’t make you a troll, ‘anti-saints’ or looking for bites. Without causing the thread to run completely off topic, given our form before this season, it was very fair to question the manager. In response to those clubs looking at JWP, I don’t see it happening. Maybe tottenham, but in my opinion, he wouldn’t be worth the money we’d command for him, which would put clubs off.
goodymatt Posted 17 January, 2022 Posted 17 January, 2022 Do this much noise making it more or less likely do we think? It’s unusual for us to take this approach. Didn’t work out as we wanted with Danny Ings for example.
Manuel Posted 17 January, 2022 Posted 17 January, 2022 On 17/01/2022 at 13:32, BERMUDASAINT said: But we would not have seen him if people were not as patient as the managers and board. We would not have the best free kick taker in the world, we would not have the energizer bunny JWP that keep on going and going.......all because so many of you are experts in players future abilities. Please give our players support, the manager will decide if they are worthy of our badge. Our job is to support the team, encourage them, keep their confidence up. We should not be there to tear down our own players. That is like sending boys to war and telling them they are shit, usless and will die out there. It does not help the troops, it will not help the players. We can discuss player abilities, everyone has their opinions, but to denigrate them on field is not on! To write off young players who we hope will become stars is fool hardy, we just got to back them until they are out the door. Then we can talk smack about them.....if you are so inclined. My hopes are dej, moi, gorilla, Adam A, tella and even the long suffering Reds and Beds can improve to be important players for us. All saints players need supporting......... until they are gone. Expand I agree, but Dellman was talking about the forum. There's a difference between discussing a player's ability on here and abusing them on the pitch. I can only remember swearing at one of our players once, as it happens. That was Nigel Quashie after he had a shot saved and seemed to want to stand offside to contemplate it, rather than getting himself back onside and continue with the game, with the ball still very much in play. The silly sod.
Dman Posted 17 January, 2022 Posted 17 January, 2022 On 17/01/2022 at 13:50, goodymatt said: Do this much noise making it more or less likely do we think? It’s unusual for us to take this approach. Didn’t work out as we wanted with Danny Ings for example. Expand Possibly new owners wanting to appease the fans? Possible it’s coming from Broja camp to drum up other interest, or for Chelsea to commit. Whatever it is, I hope we can get it done. Even with a buy back, at 20m that would be a very good bit of business. We won’t be able to attract anyone better than him. 5
Billy the Kidd Posted 17 January, 2022 Posted 17 January, 2022 Ypp. for me there is no issue with the buy back. We spent £15m on AA, who may come good, but currently is no where near what Broja is doing right now. So in that sense, we would be getting a player proven with us, that we know we are able to turn a tidy profit on. Call it a development fee for Chelsea or whatever, if we get a couple more years of him and a profit to boot, gotta be good.
CB Fry Posted 17 January, 2022 Posted 17 January, 2022 On 17/01/2022 at 13:41, stevy777_x said: Don t forget also Mark Hugues s appalling treatment of JWP where he nearly left at the time to Watford for 15 mil Expand I remember one of Mark Hughes press conferences. Ward Prowse? Get him out of my sight. A good son in law yes but f**king not what you need in the trenches. Wesley Hoedt, though? Absolute mint. 2 4
Dman Posted 17 January, 2022 Posted 17 January, 2022 United also ‘apparently’ planning a move for John McGinn. Won’t go down well on here I expect as he’s an unfashionable name, but he’s a top player. Similar sort of style to JWP, maybe just a little more attack minded.
Turkish Posted 17 January, 2022 Posted 17 January, 2022 On 17/01/2022 at 14:48, Dman said: United also ‘apparently’ planning a move for John McGinn. Won’t go down well on here I expect as he’s an unfashionable name, but he’s a top player. Similar sort of style to JWP, maybe just a little more attack minded. Expand Wouldn't get in our squad.
Dman Posted 17 January, 2022 Posted 17 January, 2022 On 17/01/2022 at 14:49, Turkish said: Wouldn't get in our squad. Expand No chance! Give me will smallbone any day 1 2
Teddeer Posted 17 January, 2022 Posted 17 January, 2022 On 17/01/2022 at 07:19, DT said: Man City, Spurs and Man United are all keeping tabs on on Southampton skipper James Ward-Prowse. Reports claim that Tottenham, in particular, have been monitoring the development of the English international for a long time. #saintsfc uh oh Expand If they've been monitoring him for a long time why haven't they put in a bid? It's not as though there is much they can't know about JWP so why would they need to monitor him for a long time. Lazy journalism. 3
malcolm waldron Posted 17 January, 2022 Posted 17 January, 2022 On 17/01/2022 at 14:48, Dman said: United also ‘apparently’ planning a move for John McGinn. Won’t go down well on here I expect as he’s an unfashionable name, but he’s a top player. Similar sort of style to JWP, maybe just a little more attack minded. Expand Isn't he unavailable this weekend? 2 1
S-Clarke Posted 17 January, 2022 Posted 17 January, 2022 Sounds like it's Brentford who are the club trying for Christan Eriksen.
Dorchester Saint Posted 17 January, 2022 Posted 17 January, 2022 (edited) This Broja situation gives me nightmares of the Alderweireld loan in that he was so nearly our player and then Spurs came in and took him….I hope the new owners can (A) Reach an agreement where Chelsea will sell and (B) Stump up the cash required to nab him. We won’t get a better chance to sign a player of his ability, it’s frightening how brilliant he could be in a couple of years time!! Edited 17 January, 2022 by Dorchester Saint 1
Toadhall Saint Posted 17 January, 2022 Posted 17 January, 2022 On 17/01/2022 at 16:37, Dorchester Saint said: This Broja situation gives me nightmares of the Alderweireld loan in that he was so nearly our player and then Spurs came in and took him….I hope the new owners can (A) Reach an agreement where Chelsea will sell and (B) Stump up the cash required to nab him. We won’t get a better chance to sign a player if his ability and his potential ability in a few years is HUGE!! Expand If we get A then B should follow unless we have lied in A?
OldNick Posted 17 January, 2022 Posted 17 January, 2022 On 17/01/2022 at 16:37, Dorchester Saint said: This Broja situation gives me nightmares of the Alderweireld loan in that he was so nearly our player and then Spurs came in and took him….I hope the new owners can (A) Reach an agreement where Chelsea will sell and (B) Stump up the cash required to nab him. We won’t get a better chance to sign a player of his ability, it’s frightening how brilliant he could be in a couple of years time!! Expand Unfortunately if we rely on the fans on here we'd have paid £20m for the lad we sold to Swansea had he been on loan here. Broja has great potential but we must not get carried away and buy at any price. 1
Bad Wolf Posted 17 January, 2022 Posted 17 January, 2022 On 17/01/2022 at 16:37, Dorchester Saint said: This Broja situation gives me nightmares of the Alderweireld loan in that he was so nearly our player and then Spurs came in and took him….I hope the new owners can (A) Reach an agreement where Chelsea will sell and (B) Stump up the cash required to nab him. We won’t get a better chance to sign a player of his ability, it’s frightening how brilliant he could be in a couple of years time!! Expand I don't think they're similar at all. With Toby, we had a binding agreement that they went back on. With Broja, there is no argeement and Chelsea are well within their legal and moral rights to tell us where to go and (as far as we know) haven't misled us at all.
SuperSAINT Posted 17 January, 2022 Posted 17 January, 2022 If we’re looking for a centre-back in the summer to loan from our buddies Chelsea… (local lad, too).
TWar Posted 17 January, 2022 Posted 17 January, 2022 On 17/01/2022 at 14:48, Dman said: United also ‘apparently’ planning a move for John McGinn. Won’t go down well on here I expect as he’s an unfashionable name, but he’s a top player. Similar sort of style to JWP, maybe just a little more attack minded. Expand Wildly overrated player. Wouldn't get anywhere near our starting 11 let alone uniteds.
Sheaf Saint Posted 17 January, 2022 Posted 17 January, 2022 On 17/01/2022 at 17:39, TWar said: Wildly overrated player. Wouldn't get anywhere near our starting 11 let alone uniteds. Expand Wouldn't be any good to us anyway if he's always suspended. 1
S-Clarke Posted 17 January, 2022 Posted 17 January, 2022 On 17/01/2022 at 17:39, TWar said: Wildly overrated player. Wouldn't get anywhere near our starting 11 let alone uniteds. Expand Wouldn't get anywhere near our starting 11? wtf? For real? He'd be in my team without question.
Matthew Le God Posted 17 January, 2022 Posted 17 January, 2022 On 17/01/2022 at 17:39, TWar said: Wildly overrated player. Wouldn't get anywhere near our starting 11 let alone uniteds. Expand On 17/01/2022 at 18:09, S-Clarke said: Wouldn't get anywhere near our starting 11? wtf? For real? He'd be in my team without question. Expand I'd rather have Ward-Prowse and Romeu. 1 1
TWar Posted 17 January, 2022 Posted 17 January, 2022 On 17/01/2022 at 18:13, Matthew Le God said: I'd rather have Ward-Prowse and Romeu. Expand Same, by a mile. JWP is better than him in basically every way and Romeu is much better defensively, so I really don't know where he would fit into our pairing. If we played a midfield 3 I guess he could start but we don't so he doesn't. 1
tajjuk Posted 17 January, 2022 Posted 17 January, 2022 On 17/01/2022 at 09:35, nta786 said: Pfft Spurs don't worry me at all... I'd set the starting price at £75m if they paid £55m for Tanguy Ndombele... Expand Man Utd don't particularly worry me either, they are all over the place and I can't see him going there to be honest. I feel JWP is quite switched on and would only move for a very top notch manager and pretty much guaranteed trophies. That to me says Man City, maybe Utd if they managed to sort the mess out and got someone like Poch in, but even then not so sure, Liverpool would be another obviously, but I don't think they are going to pay the fee, they have contracts to worry about so I don't think they have like the £70 million it would need. Personally I reckon now he has signed a new deal and he's clearly people are noticing that he's a very good player I think his value is probably the highest it has been. I think the club would be expecting Maguire levels of money. English, good age, captain, world class set piece taker, exemplary fitness levels. no history of injuries.
Saint Garrett Posted 17 January, 2022 Posted 17 January, 2022 We should be doing what West Ham are doing with Rice. His price was £60m, then £80, then £100m, now it’s £200m. Highly likely he goes less than that, but he’s worth £80-100m to us.
Lee On Solent Saint Posted 17 January, 2022 Posted 17 January, 2022 On 17/01/2022 at 18:26, tajjuk said: Man Utd don't particularly worry me either, they are all over the place and I can't see him going there to be honest. I feel JWP is quite switched on and would only move for a very top notch manager and pretty much guaranteed trophies. That to me says Man City, maybe Utd if they managed to sort the mess out and got someone like Poch in, but even then not so sure, Liverpool would be another obviously, but I don't think they are going to pay the fee, they have contracts to worry about so I don't think they have like the £70 million it would need. Personally I reckon now he has signed a new deal and he's clearly people are noticing that he's a very good player I think his value is probably the highest it has been. I think the club would be expecting Maguire levels of money. English, good age, captain, world class set piece taker, exemplary fitness levels. no history of injuries. Expand If Poch ends up at United in the summer, could be interesting 1
Golac's Cunning Stunts Posted 17 January, 2022 Posted 17 January, 2022 On 17/01/2022 at 18:09, S-Clarke said: Wouldn't get anywhere near our starting 11? wtf? For real? He'd be in my team without question. Expand Twar has some wierd dislike for Villa. McGinn would go straight in to our side no question.
Matthew Le God Posted 17 January, 2022 Posted 17 January, 2022 (edited) On 17/01/2022 at 18:53, Golac's Cunning Stunts said: Twar has some wierd dislike for Villa. McGinn would go straight in to our side no question. Expand Instead of who? Ward-Prowse or Romeu? McGinn wouldn't play in the Romeu role... so his competition is Ward-Prowse and I wouldn't be playing McGinn rather than Ward-Prowse. Edited 17 January, 2022 by Matthew Le God
AlexLaw76 Posted 17 January, 2022 Posted 17 January, 2022 On 17/01/2022 at 18:59, Matthew Le God said: Instead of who? Ward-Prowse or Romeu? McGinn wouldn't play in the Romeu role... so his competition is Ward-Prowse and I wouldn't be playing McGinn rather than Ward-Prowse. Expand One of the 3 in midfield, or as one of the 10s if we go mental with the 4222 1
TWar Posted 17 January, 2022 Posted 17 January, 2022 On 17/01/2022 at 19:36, AlexLaw76 said: One of the 3 in midfield, or as one of the 10s if we go mental with the 4222 Expand John Mcginn is decidedly not a 10. On 17/01/2022 at 18:53, Golac's Cunning Stunts said: Twar has some wierd dislike for Villa. McGinn would go straight in to our side no question. Expand I don't, I just think a lot of their players are overrated as people didn't notice how much Grealish carried them. They are a mid table side who people think is European level for absolutely no reason. 1
Matthew Le God Posted 17 January, 2022 Posted 17 January, 2022 On 17/01/2022 at 19:36, AlexLaw76 said: One of the 3 in midfield, or as one of the 10s if we go mental with the 4222 Expand When has he ever played in that role effectively?
egg Posted 17 January, 2022 Posted 17 January, 2022 What's all this McGinn nonsense? Has he been linked to us?
Mallagroth Posted 17 January, 2022 Posted 17 January, 2022 As disappointed as I would be, If a champions league club comes in for him in summer I would wish him well and even encourage him to take the opportunity. he has been a great servant and chosen to stay when offered moves before but he has earned a realistic shot at some big trophies and a regular England spot. If we get fairly compensated in the process then we can’t really complain.
ErwinK1961 Posted 17 January, 2022 Posted 17 January, 2022 On 17/01/2022 at 20:05, egg said: What's all this McGinn nonsense? Has he been linked to us? Expand All I know is he’s suspended. 2
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