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Master Bates Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 Amo-Ameyaw with his 2nd. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 70mins AND ITS 7 HEAVEN 72mins OH THAT'S GREAT, IT'S 8 0 SOUTHAMPTON 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefizzy14 Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 8 nil now - Amo-Ameyaw hat trick 😊 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 (edited) Amo-Ameyaw (hat trick) and Ehibhatiomhan the scorers Edited April 20 by Master Bates 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 (edited) 1 minute ago, davefizzy14 said: 8 nil now - Amo-Ameyaw hat trick 😊 My bad.... Edited April 20 by Master Bates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 9 0 lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 Oyekunle over the line for 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 (edited) Was only posting the result and scorers but egg beat me below 40mins later. No point having it twice. Edited April 20 by Master Bates 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 (edited) Teams and scorers below. Why is SAA playing with the kids? I know he is one, but he's better than that and needs to develop by playing mens football. Edited April 20 by egg 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coalman Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 Just now, egg said: Teams and scorers below. Why is SAA playing with the kids? I know he is one, but he's better than that and needs to develop by playing mens football. Because some combination of Wilcox / Martin would rather bring attacking midfielders on loan than trust him in the first team 😢 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 Just now, coalman said: Because some combination of Wilcox / Martin would rather bring attacking midfielders on loan than trust him in the first team 😢 We're overloaded imo with first team players in that area. It's poor that at least one of SAA or Dibling can't make the match day 20. No good for the lads or the club as youngsters need to see that they'll get a chance. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 (edited) 15 minutes ago, egg said: Teams and scorers below. Why is SAA playing with the kids? I know he is one, but he's better than that and needs to develop by playing mens football. ... Edited April 20 by Master Bates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 14 minutes ago, egg said: Teams and scorers below. Why is SAA playing with the kids? I know he is one, but he's better than that and needs to develop by playing mens football. Great result, wish I was there! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 In the absence of @Master Bates 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Toadhall Saint Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 That’s a shame. Didn’t Jason Dodd come via that path? I wonder what the reason is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 13 minutes ago, Toadhall Saint said: That’s a shame. Didn’t Jason Dodd come via that path? I wonder what the reason is? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 35 minutes ago, Master Bates said: The club makes a lot of the catchment area being on the coast. But we are on island and lots of teams are on or very near to the coast. 7 in the PL and 8 in the Championship. Saints are far from unique on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Bates Statue Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 One of the top results when searching this is a Bristol City forum thread with the first comment, "About damn time". It's from 2013. I thought with the EPPP and catchment areas becoming obsolete, this wouldn't become an issue. Obviously not the case. Not that it really matters when Chelsea can hoover up whatever academy talent we have, wherever we are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintNewForest Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 So we can't have a satellite centre in Bath, but Chelsea can have their foundation everywhere, hoovering up the top talent? Seems fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disconnect Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 12 hours ago, SaintNewForest said: So we can't have a satellite centre in Bath, but Chelsea can have their foundation everywhere, hoovering up the top talent? Seems fair. Classic Premier League rules favouring certain clubs and then slapping down rules and penalties on those outside the traditional top 6/8 clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 Hansel Adjei-Afriyie, Cameron Frederick, Thierry Rohart-Brown, Leo Umeh and Harry Gathercole sign scholarship deals. Ale Gomes offered a scholarship. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 10 minutes ago, Master Bates said: Hansel Adjei-Afriyie, Cameron Frederick, Thierry Rohart-Brown, Leo Umeh and Harry Gathercole sign scholarship deals. Ale Gomes offered a scholarship. Good to see we’re preparing our own next generation of hyphens, and double barrelled names. You know prices in that area of the market will increase. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 35 minutes ago, Master Bates said: Hansel Adjei-Afriyie, Cameron Frederick, Thierry Rohart-Brown, Leo Umeh and Harry Gathercole sign scholarship deals. Ale Gomes offered a scholarship. Rohart-Brown signed a scholarship deal in October 2023 when he joined Saints from Reading and is a year above the others. So the Twitter source you got that from might not be reliable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 27 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: Rohart-Brown signed a scholarship deal in October 2023 when he joined Saints from Reading and is a year above the others. So the Twitter source you got that from might not be reliable. Signed his actual scholarship Friday evening. Signed initially pre-scholar. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 Korban McMullan has also signed a scholarship 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarehamSaintJames Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 1 hour ago, Master Bates said: Korban McMullan has also signed a scholarship Heard from a reliable source that Villa are prepping a £50M bid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 And Dylan Moody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke SkyWalker-Peters Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 What about Harrison Miles? Very concerning if the club can't hold onto Miles or Gomes-Rodriguez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErwinK1961 Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 1 minute ago, Luke SkyWalker-Peters said: What about Harrison Miles? Very concerning if the club can't hold onto Miles or Gomes-Rodriguez. It’s really not that big a deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 7 hours ago, Master Bates said: Hansel Adjei-Afriyie, Cameron Frederick, Thierry Rohart-Brown, Leo Umeh and Harry Gathercole sign scholarship deals. Ale Gomes offered a scholarship. Thanks for sharing. You could post the link to where you take your info from as well like most of us do - as lots of people want to know the source and take a look themselves. E.g: https://x.com/TheSaintsFCBlog/status/1807426350602424732?s=19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 39 minutes ago, Dusic said: Thanks for sharing. You could post the link to where you take your info from as well like most of us do - as lots of people want to know the source and take a look themselves. E.g: https://x.com/TheSaintsFCBlog/status/1807426350602424732?s=19 Leo Umeh looks like he's joined from Chelsea. Bit of a well-trodden path for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 7 hours ago, SuperSAINT said: Signed his actual scholarship Friday evening. Signed initially pre-scholar. Oof, MLG got his facts wrong here then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 Not seen this mentioned anywhere else, technically not U18's but still part of the youth setup. New U21 Manager - Southampton seal appointment of recent England youth coach | Daily Echo Bit of a coup given his history. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintNewForest Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 Gomes & Miles are off. Miles off to Man City & Gomes exercising his right to speak to other clubs. Whats the point in having an academy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarehamSaintJames Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 4 minutes ago, SaintNewForest said: Gomes & Miles are off. Miles off to Man City & Gomes exercising his right to speak to other clubs. Whats the point in having an academy? What a ridiculous reaction. If you’re losing sleep over a couple of teenagers who have never played a meaningful level game of football then your priorities are all wrong. 😂 Jesus. You have no idea whether they’d have turned out to be Gareth Bale or Saido Berahino. Grow up mate. Yes it’s frustrating when kids are poached but that says more about the bigger clubs that will happily piss away money on children’s wages. They’ve gone for the pay day, no more than that. See Jimmy-Jay Morgan who was sold eighteen months ago, I see his career has flourished since then… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabrice29 Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 1 minute ago, FarehamSaintJames said: What a ridiculous reaction. If you’re losing sleep over a couple of teenagers who have never played a meaningful level game of football then your priorities are all wrong. 😂 Jesus. You have no idea whether they’d have turned out to be Gareth Bale or Saido Berahino. Grow up mate. Yes it’s frustrating when kids are poached but that says more about the bigger clubs that will happily piss away money on children’s wages. They’ve gone for the pay day, no more than that. See Jimmy-Jay Morgan who was sold eighteen months ago, I see his career has flourished since then… Let’s nip this narrative in the bud once again. They are 15/16. These top clubs and academies are the best places for their education, to train with, play against and be coached by the best is quite rightly something kids who get those opportunities should very much explore. Whether they are right for them is up to them, Dibling for example decided the best place for him was here and whether it works out is up in the air, as is any young players career anywhere, but just noting it down to money is absurd because it’s quite obviously about more than that. Also find it quite funny people feel Southampton is the best place for young players of that age when there is very little recent evidence of academy prospects getting regular opportunities in the first team anyway. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 I guess it's not as devastating because we've never seen them play, so we don't know if they're any good at first team level - but it's still quite sad. We'll still make some money on them, but it's not ideal. Gomes never looked like he was going to commit, so that was not a surprise at all. There is a tiny worrying lack of pathway here at the mo I would say - we had an opportunity last season to give Dibling for example more game time, but he barley got a look in. SAA and Maghoma signing for more money (wages) from other clubs probably doesn't go down well with the existing crop either. I think Andy Goldie is improving things though, he's only been in for a year but things are changing for the better from what I've heard. But as with academy setups, changes aren't immediate - it can sometimes take years for the benefits to transfer through to be visible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disconnect Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 6 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: I guess it's not as devastating because we've never seen them play, so we don't know if they're any good at first team level - but it's still quite sad. We'll still make some money on them, but it's not ideal. Gomes never looked like he was going to commit, so that was not a surprise at all. There is a tiny worrying lack of pathway here at the mo I would say - we had an opportunity last season to give Dibling for example more game time, but he barley got a look in. SAA and Meghoma signing for more money (wages) from other clubs probably doesn't go down well with the existing crop either. I think Andy Goldie is improving things though, he's only been in for a year but things are changing for the better from what I've heard. But as with academy setups, changes aren't immediate - it can sometimes take years for the benefits to transfer through to be visible. That's because they are significantly better than 90% of the rest of the academy (perhaps only Dibling aside), and are effectively first team squad members. I think most were surprised neither featured more for the first team last year. Hoping to see more of both this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabrice29 Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 4 minutes ago, disconnect said: That's because they are significantly better than 90% of the rest of the academy (perhaps only Dibling aside), and are effectively first team squad members. I think most were surprised neither featured more for the first team last year. Hoping to see more of both this season. Pretty sure SAA will go on loan. Meghoma in the last year of his contract I believe so will be interesting if he signs a new one too and goes on loan with it or maybe seeks to leave himself. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 What a blow for anyone working in the academy - its becoming more and more of a difficult to see an actual homegrown prospect make it. Only the very best academy players are good enough for PL football (or even Championship) so if you can't keep your top 5% beyond the age of 16 then you really have no chance of ever seeing a first team debut aside from players you buy in later on like SAA/Meghoma. Of our recent long term academy players who have clearly been very good at youth level nearly all have chosen to leave before making any impact in our first team: Morgan, Doyle, Dibling (came back as couldn't settle) and now these two. Its not really a good advert for our academy. The only players aside from Dibling who are anywhere close are players we bought in the same way, from Spurs. If Miles or Gomes don't make it at City or wherever they will still make a tidy profit on them whereas we will get peanuts - seems an unsustainable model for non big clubs. I get in some ways the idea of not caving to pay demands but if the point of an academy is to develop players for your first team and you have a couple of the best in Europe for their age then surely you do absolutely everything to keep them, even if that means upsetting others who are lesser players? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 3 hours ago, SaintNewForest said: Gomes & Miles are off. Miles off to Man City & Gomes exercising his right to speak to other clubs. Whats the point in having an academy? Did you moan when we took Meghoma and SAA from spurs academy? That left back from Everton who everyone thought was gonna be a superstar? Roundabouts and swings mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 3 hours ago, Fabrice29 said: Let’s nip this narrative in the bud once again. They are 15/16. These top clubs and academies are the best places for their education, to train with, play against and be coached by the best is quite rightly something kids who get those opportunities should very much explore. Whether they are right for them is up to them, Dibling for example decided the best place for him was here and whether it works out is up in the air, as is any young players career anywhere, but just noting it down to money is absurd because it’s quite obviously about more than that. Also find it quite funny people feel Southampton is the best place for young players of that age when there is very little recent evidence of academy prospects getting regular opportunities in the first team anyway. Yep, good post. If I was a promising kid here, I'd assume I ain't getting 1st team football, so I'd go elsewhere to also not good 1st team football but get a)more cash, b) better coaching and development, and c) a chance to get 1st team football in that clubs extensive loan network. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintNewForest Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 5 hours ago, FarehamSaintJames said: What a ridiculous reaction. If you’re losing sleep over a couple of teenagers who have never played a meaningful level game of football then your priorities are all wrong. 😂 Jesus. You have no idea whether they’d have turned out to be Gareth Bale or Saido Berahino. Grow up mate. Yes it’s frustrating when kids are poached but that says more about the bigger clubs that will happily piss away money on children’s wages. They’ve gone for the pay day, no more than that. See Jimmy-Jay Morgan who was sold eighteen months ago, I see his career has flourished since then… Bit of an overreaction there, mate. Who says I'm losing sleep, or need my priorities sorting? All I said was its pointless having an academy when all the top talents are nicked before they've had the chance to make it worthwhile for us ... literally exactly the same as what you went on to say about it being frustrating. You're right in that it's all about the payday, though. Should very much be a wage cap on these young lads, who, let's not forget, aren't even an adult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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