sydney_saint Posted 22 August, 2021 Share Posted 22 August, 2021 Quite a big half here for Ralph. Need to show progress in defending a lead at half time. It's United, so if they win by a couple of pieces of magic, or are forced to work hard for it then fine. Some things are out of his control. But if we come out shit again and go down limply, then questions need to be asked about whether we can improve. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 22 August, 2021 Share Posted 22 August, 2021 2 minutes ago, skintsaint said: Isn't he 6'2 or something? He's smaller than both Salisu and Bednarek and a whisker taller than Stephens. That's not tall in football standards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiberalCommunist Posted 22 August, 2021 Share Posted 22 August, 2021 Its the hope that kills, and this is going to hurt........ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Rooney Posted 22 August, 2021 Share Posted 22 August, 2021 4 minutes ago, Mr X said: Walcott & stephens off, KWP & Armstrong on please Ralph Armstrong not on the bench mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSFC Posted 22 August, 2021 Share Posted 22 August, 2021 1 minute ago, Pamplemousse said: Attacking wise we're good. Defensively shambolic. nothing changes....every game we are relying upon the quality of the opposition to score. rarely do we stop them scoring, or having loads of chances because we are defending well. We need at least one commanding CB. With the ball we are good, not brilliant but better than quite a few.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 22 August, 2021 Share Posted 22 August, 2021 Just now, LiberalCommunist said: Its the hope that kills, and this is going to hurt........ Yeah ho,pe that kills, two goals wasn't enough last time ☹️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 22 August, 2021 Share Posted 22 August, 2021 1 minute ago, LiberalCommunist said: Its the hope that kills, and this is going to hurt........ I think you may be right. Has a feeling of inevitability about it... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 22 August, 2021 Share Posted 22 August, 2021 Just now, Ed Rooney said: Armstrong not on the bench mate Injured?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceandfriendly Posted 22 August, 2021 Author Share Posted 22 August, 2021 2 minutes ago, Chez said: 50+ year old man wearing white trainers with a suit...not for me. To be fair I hadn't seen the trainers. Couple of points marked down for those Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesfp1 Posted 22 August, 2021 Share Posted 22 August, 2021 Inevetible second half collapse? Or a very unlikely surprise... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 22 August, 2021 Share Posted 22 August, 2021 Just now, Mr X said: Injured?? Calf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekelund Posted 22 August, 2021 Share Posted 22 August, 2021 Nice little touch from Armstrong for the goal 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarvSFC Posted 22 August, 2021 Share Posted 22 August, 2021 McCarthy - Strange, as when he does come out for crosses, he uses makes a good connection on the punch, or catches the ball. He's never a flapper. Needs to be more confident as that one that hit the crossbar early on was inexcusable again. However, Forster doesn't come out for crosses and I think that Matic header at the end goes in against Forster in the goalkeeper debate. Livramento - Too good for us. Only thing he does wrong is the final ball, which can be forgiven. Stephens - Very good, as we know he can be. Gets remembered too much for his mistakes, which hopefully won't come in this match. Salisu - Solid, just can't make a forward pass. Keep it simple. Perraud - Capable. Romeu - Doing a job. Ward-Prowse - Good early set-piece. Doing a job in the middle also. Walcott - Waste of a shirt, which is a shame. Started last season well for us, but he's been on a decline ever since his first injury here. Think I prefer Redmond to him. Djenepo - Defending well, made some dangerous runs, but as always, looks like he can't fully control himself. Adams - Thought he looked a bit useless before the goal. Needs to hold the ball up more, so it doesn't come straight back, but we'll take the strike. Armstrong - Those comparisons to Long were good. I thought he was just a poacher when he signed, but he's a real pest. Very lively. Can see him causing issues in the future. Overall, come on Saints! Do not bottle this one, they don't have Cavani this year. Same again second half, they were rattled after our goal and we looked a lot more composed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Saint Posted 22 August, 2021 Share Posted 22 August, 2021 5 minutes ago, Mr X said: Walcott & stephens off, KWP & Armstrong on please Ralph Armstrong's injured, he's not on the bench Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSFC Posted 22 August, 2021 Share Posted 22 August, 2021 1 minute ago, LiberalCommunist said: Its the hope that kills, and this is going to hurt........ was just thinking similar. Before the game I was fully expecting an absolute thrashing. Now we've gone and taken the lead, it gives you hope, so like you say, when the inevitable happens and they score a few, it will hurt more now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorchester Saint Posted 22 August, 2021 Share Posted 22 August, 2021 6 minutes ago, Mr X said: Walcott & stephens off, KWP & Armstrong on please Ralph Armstrong isn’t even on the bench… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 22 August, 2021 Share Posted 22 August, 2021 9 minutes ago, obelisk said: I suspect Utd will be comfortable given Saints reputation for giving up in the second half. 4 minutes ago, Toadhall Saint said: Would like to think we replace Walcott with KWP and play him in front of Tino. But I suspect we will have ground hog day. #bbcfootball Mark Burt: Southampton punching well above their weight again. Minimal resources but so well organised and led. Definitely worth their lead. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 22 August, 2021 Share Posted 22 August, 2021 Delighted to be one up at half time, even if I had to listen to it on 5live. However if this does finish as a United win, then already our "points lost from being ahead" record this season will already stand at 6 and we'll be well on course to beat last season's record. That said it sounded like we were fairly well organised so hopefully we can get something from this game. A point would be superb. A win would be MASSIVE. I just think United will have too much for us in the second half but I hope I'm wrong. Ralph needs to make the right changes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 22 August, 2021 Share Posted 22 August, 2021 Thought Oriel has a breeze block touch that first half 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangkoksaint Posted 22 August, 2021 Share Posted 22 August, 2021 Pictures on Sky of those unable to get in………what an absolute joke. SFC says they’ll be refunded…….they should be refunded and some Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 22 August, 2021 Share Posted 22 August, 2021 2 minutes ago, Ekelund said: Nice little touch from Armstrong for the goal he's looked pretty sharp. Seems to understand the positional play required of the press too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewYorkSaint Posted 22 August, 2021 Share Posted 22 August, 2021 Maybe Ralph deserves a little more respect after the first 45? McCarthy: a great save down low which Forster may or may not have made + great 2-3 great punches out from dangerous corners. Stephens and Salisu: both pretty strong this half. Stephens aggression made our goal. Djenepo: really impressive half. Tino: incredible again. Stu has injured calf so all the fury there was misplaced. Only legitimate question is whether Walcott should be off in favor of Tella or Redmond (or possibly Tino, with KWP coming in.) I also like the fact that they seem to have done a slightly better than usual job of managing energy. It wasn't all-out blitzing all half. They were selective. Let's see if they can hold out against the onslaught. I do think 1-2 is most likely result, but..... it's been great so far. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 22 August, 2021 Share Posted 22 August, 2021 Bedders on for Theo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Saint Posted 22 August, 2021 Share Posted 22 August, 2021 1 minute ago, Convict Colony said: Thought Oriel has a breeze block touch that first half Agree, lost the ball too many times but doing an alright job otherwise. Bednarek on for Walcott. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obelisk Posted 22 August, 2021 Share Posted 22 August, 2021 Keep giving away opportunities for Utd to swing in a dead ball then Saints will surely concede. Eventually. If Utd get a header on target that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 22 August, 2021 Share Posted 22 August, 2021 1 minute ago, bangkoksaint said: Pictures on Sky of those unable to get in………what an absolute joke. SFC says they’ll be refunded…….they should be refunded and some Free admission for the rest of the season 🤣🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 22 August, 2021 Share Posted 22 August, 2021 Whats happening, we've changed shape when in front? What is this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 22 August, 2021 Share Posted 22 August, 2021 Just now, simo said: Bedders on for Theo Livramento to play farther forward? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 22 August, 2021 Share Posted 22 August, 2021 Beds on for Theo. Hopefully its 3 CBs and not Stephens at RB! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 22 August, 2021 Share Posted 22 August, 2021 8 minutes ago, Toadhall Saint said: Would like to think we replace Walcott with KWP and play him in front of Tino. But I suspect we will have ground hog day. whether it works or not we have made a tactical change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Saint Posted 22 August, 2021 Share Posted 22 August, 2021 1 minute ago, simo said: Bedders on for Theo Just now, CanadaSaint said: Livramento to play farther forward? Did wonder, but then you'd think we'd put KWP on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 22 August, 2021 Share Posted 22 August, 2021 2 minutes ago, NewYorkSaint said: Maybe Ralph deserves a little more respect after the first 45? McCarthy: a great save down low which Forster may or may not have made + great 2-3 great punches out from dangerous corners. Stephens and Salisu: both pretty strong this half. Stephens aggression made our goal. Djenepo: really impressive half. Tino: incredible again. Stu has injured calf so all the fury there was misplaced. Only legitimate question is whether Walcott should be off in favor of Tella or Redmond (or possibly Tino, with KWP coming in.) I also like the fact that they seem to have done a slightly better than usual job of managing energy. It wasn't all-out blitzing all half. They were selective. Let's see if they can hold out against the onslaught. I do think 1-2 is most likely result, but..... it's been great so far. Yeah, a very good first half in fairness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 22 August, 2021 Share Posted 22 August, 2021 Just now, Saint86 said: Whats happening, we've changed shape when in front? What is this. Don't think we have. He's just pushed Stephens to right back. Why you wouldn't bring KWP on, I have no idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 22 August, 2021 Share Posted 22 August, 2021 Well....its a change for more stability at the back but hopes it means we just don't sit back and try to soak up pressure for 45mins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obelisk Posted 22 August, 2021 Share Posted 22 August, 2021 Have our defenders done any work in heading the ball clear? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stknowle Posted 22 August, 2021 Share Posted 22 August, 2021 Why can't we fucking get a head to the ball? There's no way we'll keep getting away with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 22 August, 2021 Share Posted 22 August, 2021 2 minutes ago, Chez said: whether it works or not we have made a tactical change. Good on Ralph for trying something even if it fails. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 22 August, 2021 Share Posted 22 August, 2021 1 minute ago, skintsaint said: Well....its a change for more stability at the back but hopes it means we just don't sit back and try to soak up pressure for 45mins. Surely worth a go at this approach given the alternative (s) almost never works? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 22 August, 2021 Share Posted 22 August, 2021 This is what we’ve been asking for, hope it works out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Lion Tamer Posted 22 August, 2021 Share Posted 22 August, 2021 Just now, stknowle said: Why can't we fucking get a head to the ball? There's no way we'll keep getting away with it. We've looked so weak in the air defensively Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 22 August, 2021 Share Posted 22 August, 2021 Waistcoat’s off! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 22 August, 2021 Share Posted 22 August, 2021 1 minute ago, Saint86 said: Yeah, a very good first half in fairness. really? We hung on for grim life for the most part. Got our goal, and for the five minutes before it we were very strong, but United were so sloppy throughout. If they had scored not us would you have said we played well in that first half? Not a chance. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 22 August, 2021 Share Posted 22 August, 2021 1 minute ago, hypochondriac said: Good on Ralph for trying something even if it fails. agreed. We struggled at set pieces, so made a lot of sense. Gives them something to think about too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 22 August, 2021 Share Posted 22 August, 2021 Djenepo yellow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Saint Posted 22 August, 2021 Share Posted 22 August, 2021 Stupid from Djenepo. Does that too often and why he shouldn't be anywhere near LB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisPY Posted 22 August, 2021 Share Posted 22 August, 2021 2 minutes ago, benjii said: Don't think we have. He's just pushed Stephens to right back. Why you wouldn't bring KWP on, I have no idea. Most of the Man Utd chances were from set pieces so guess the thinking is to give us another bit of height to defend those and Livramento to be able to track back and defend the right side in open play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 22 August, 2021 Share Posted 22 August, 2021 Just now, OttawaSaint said: Djenepo yellow. Wouldn't surprise to see Ralph hook him off shortly as he seems to have a yellow in him most challenges Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 22 August, 2021 Share Posted 22 August, 2021 (edited) Any idea when Fred gets a yellow for the incessant back-chat? Edited 22 August, 2021 by trousers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obelisk Posted 22 August, 2021 Share Posted 22 August, 2021 FFS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedArmy Posted 22 August, 2021 Share Posted 22 August, 2021 McCarthy LOL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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