Edmonton Saint Posted 7 August, 2021 Share Posted 7 August, 2021 So how do we think Saints are going to get on this season. I have to admit I am very worried this season. I think we are potentially worse than last season and we struggled mightily, if we get a couple of injuries then our threadbare squad will be thrown to the wolves. So my prediction, Unless we can add 2 or 3 quality signings before the end of the window and based on the current squad 18th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapel End Posted 7 August, 2021 Share Posted 7 August, 2021 10th to 14th 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 7 August, 2021 Share Posted 7 August, 2021 (edited) As it stands, despite all the bluster from the end of last season in terms of how we need to be stronger, we'll have a much deeper squad etc, we look likely to start the season even weaker than we ended last. Which is crazy really when you think about it. I think we were relying on an Ings or Vestergaard deal early on to give us the money we needed to move early, but it dragged on a bit. Still think we want Vestergaard to go in order to give us some more cash too. I think we'll add maybe 2 players to potentially bring us up to where we were last season squad wise - but I'm not seeing the promise of 'a much bigger squad', if we're talking about Moussa as a LB option then things have gone wrong. It's hard to be sure at the moment as so much is up in the air, but if the scouting is top notch and we are able to invest some money then we may be ok and be looking upwards towards Top 10 - but if we fail to reinvest or reinvest the Ings money badly then I think it's curtains and it probably won't even be close. Edited 7 August, 2021 by S-Clarke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 7 August, 2021 Share Posted 7 August, 2021 Will be tougher this season. First XI is still decent enough (Forster, KWP, Vestergaard/Bednarek, Salisu, Perraud, JWP, Romeu, Armstrong, Redmond, Tella, Adams) to survive but we definitely need reinforcements and fast. Definitely, more than anything, we need a striker this week, although effectively we need to improve the entire spine of the team. We are in that bracket that will be fighting for survival as it stands. It will be nervy but it can be done. 14th-17th. Anything better will be amazing. IMO one of the promoted sides will survive (Brentford I suspect) which means one of the established Prem teams will slip. It could be is but my money is on Burnley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 7 August, 2021 Share Posted 7 August, 2021 34 minutes ago, Chapel End said: 10th to 14th Lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapel End Posted 7 August, 2021 Share Posted 7 August, 2021 1 minute ago, SKD said: Lol. Obsessed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 7 August, 2021 Share Posted 7 August, 2021 A long season where we can’t score and can’t stop others scoring. Rock bottom for me. Newcastle (18th) and Norwich (19th) to come down with us. Ralph to be gone within 15 games. Probably another very heavy defeat to one of the big boys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 7 August, 2021 Share Posted 7 August, 2021 17-20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapel End Posted 7 August, 2021 Share Posted 7 August, 2021 Just now, SKD said: A long season where we can’t score and can’t stop others scoring. Rock bottom for me. Newcastle (18th) and Norwich (19th) to come down with us. Ralph to be gone within 15 games. Probably another very heavy defeat to one of the big boys. Lol. Is that prediction or a wish? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 7 August, 2021 Share Posted 7 August, 2021 Just now, Chapel End said: Lol. Is that prediction or a wish? Wager for charity on who’s prediction is closer? You decide how much. 10th place 😂😂😂 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazza Posted 7 August, 2021 Share Posted 7 August, 2021 Unless we bag a 10-15 goal forward this month I reckon this is the year we go down unfortunately. 19th is my prediction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's There Posted 7 August, 2021 Share Posted 7 August, 2021 Key, as we know, is a striker who can score plus some good luck re injuries. Without a decent striker- relegation (20th). With someone 10-15 goals- 13th 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 7 August, 2021 Share Posted 7 August, 2021 18th or worse unless the striker and CM recruitment goes exceptionally well. It’s very hard to reverse momentum that bad from second half of last season without huge surgery to the squad. The new striker is going to need time to settle in which Ralph doesn’t have with the tough opening fixtures. A new manager - as I don’t think he will survive another tonking like Man U or Leicester - may be in place as early as October. I think Ralph has been a bit shafted on the transfer front but the team cannot play as open as they are. The Championship centre backs and keeper hopefully will be protected better by Romeu staying fit. It’s possible that one or two teams will be even worse and Saints stay up with a couple of upset results against the top 6 somewhere if they are tired after a tougher European fixture where they sustain injuries. Uninspiring either way and not the point of moving from the Dell to SMS. Maybe relegation is the only way to be rid of Gao so the penny drops that a relegated asset has no value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daft Kerplunk Posted 7 August, 2021 Share Posted 7 August, 2021 I’d take 17th if offered it today 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roo1976 Posted 7 August, 2021 Share Posted 7 August, 2021 12th if we get sorted at the back and grow some balls to stop caving in so easily. Will we loose 9-0 is a worry?............who'd have thought it would happen 2 seasons in a row? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 7 August, 2021 Share Posted 7 August, 2021 Relegated 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 7 August, 2021 Share Posted 7 August, 2021 We were in freefall at the end of last season, we've lost two main men in Bertrand and Ings, so ultimately start weaker than last season. Unless some serious signings happen - we'll struggle, plain and simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFC Forever Posted 7 August, 2021 Share Posted 7 August, 2021 I think we will get a couple of useful players in. 12th to 14th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddeer Posted 7 August, 2021 Share Posted 7 August, 2021 (edited) Whichever way you cut it, it looks like being a tough season for us and we will probably be scrapping to stay in the top flight from the first game to the last. I don't see many weaker squads than ours especially with Ings gone. Our main hope lies in the 3 new comers struggling along with Burnley and Palace so or me it's 3 from 6 with us right in the mix. Edited 7 August, 2021 by Teddeer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 7 August, 2021 Share Posted 7 August, 2021 I think we’ll go down. I also think RH won’t be here after 10-15 games. Once again, it’s a case of hope and pray for 3 teams worse then us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 7 August, 2021 Share Posted 7 August, 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
croydonsaint Posted 7 August, 2021 Share Posted 7 August, 2021 As we stand we will be relegated…… not enough goals in this team and can see us leaking goals I would say we need at least 4 new players in…… at least to be able to compete… imo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vectraman Posted 7 August, 2021 Share Posted 7 August, 2021 17th. Watford, Newcastle and Norwich just slightly more shit than we are. We struggle to stop conceding goals, teams know we want to play out from the back and simply pressure us into giving them the ball in and around our penalty area. Neither of our keepers are comfortable on the ball, we keep giving soft self inflicted goals away. Our central defenders still can’t read the game (why would they, they are the same as last season). I am regularly told off for uttering my usual Saints watching phrase “ffs stop pissing about at the back with it”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Matty 76 Posted 7 August, 2021 Share Posted 7 August, 2021 I think we like to forget how poor the teams around us also are. Watford/Norwich/Brentford have done borderline nothing and Burnley/Newcastle haven’t either. Brighton are weaker after finishing below us and Palace have a monster rebuild going on, despite looking to have done well so far. I think we’ll finish between 12th-15th, depending on us bringing in a good striker before the month closes out. Going to go with 14th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 7 August, 2021 Share Posted 7 August, 2021 (edited) I don't think we'll go down. There are worse teams than us in this division, and we have a better manager as well. 11th-15th is a reasonable prediction. It'll be three from Burnley, Newcastle, Palace, Watford, Norwich, Brighton and Brentford. Edited 7 August, 2021 by Pamplemousse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golac's Iron Gonads Posted 7 August, 2021 Share Posted 7 August, 2021 Relegation with Adams, Armstrong, Walker-Peters and Tella all showing enough to ensure they get summer transfers to remain top league players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 7 August, 2021 Share Posted 7 August, 2021 This current team will be relegated because allied to being poor defensively there just aren't enough goalscorers. There are also too many players who seem like they will play a part despite the Manager having already and rightly IMO written them off as PL players: Long, Obafemi, Valery and Elyounoussi. When he said we would have a deeper squad I never imagined it meant these players. As ever, we havent (yet) done enough in the transfer market to improve our team. The only positice is we must have a bit of cash and there are still three weeks to go. I don't think it is overly dramatic to say the next three weeks will largely define if we can stay up or not as without a good goalscorer we don't stand a chance sadly because we know we will concede a lot still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obelisk Posted 7 August, 2021 Share Posted 7 August, 2021 Still looking bereft of ideas and slow in the attacking third while the midfield and defence always have a mistake waiting to happen. Livramento looks a good buy and made an instant impact today but unless we have some goals in us we'll struggle. Long? Why? We could easily end up with nil points at the end of September. As for the season, well, 40 points looks a long way off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 7 August, 2021 Share Posted 7 August, 2021 Well this is the weakest we've been for some time so based on that our usual 15th-20th it all depends on wether we get a decent replacement for ings, we only scraped 15th with ings so it's not looking great is it? He basically kept us up, Come on saints suprise me! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 7 August, 2021 Share Posted 7 August, 2021 My, we will struggle this year. Had Ings stayed I would have argued we were stronger then last year, Bertrand going was a shame but his heart was no longer in it. Perraud looks promising and has something to prove. How we use the £25m or so from the sale will shape not just this season, but also our medium term future. However, Ings going does open up opportunities for Tella. This will be his break out season, if he can strike a good accord with Che and Theo then we have a chance. This will need to happen quickly mind, our lack of strength leaves every fixture looking like an uphill battle. A lot will also depend on other clubs. Newcastle and Palace could self destruct, the promoted teams need one or two to fail to get to grips with their new surroundings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 7 August, 2021 Share Posted 7 August, 2021 18th we haven’t addressed last years issues and weaker up front. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 7 August, 2021 Share Posted 7 August, 2021 Based on the entirely reasonable assumption that Semmens and Crocker have a better idea of what's best for the club than the people on this forum, and the fact that we've added some depth were we suicidally lacked it last year (with more to come), I'll go with a fairly comfortable 12th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddeer Posted 7 August, 2021 Share Posted 7 August, 2021 3 minutes ago, CanadaSaint said: Based on the entirely reasonable assumption that Semmens and Crocker have a better idea of what's best for the club than the people on this forum, and the fact that we've added some depth were we suicidally lacked it last year (with more to come), I'll go with a fairly comfortable 12th. I'd be interested to hear the names of the 8 sides you think will finish below us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 7 August, 2021 Share Posted 7 August, 2021 16th or 17th after being no higher than 14th all season. We'll be in the bottom 3 at various points too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 7 August, 2021 Share Posted 7 August, 2021 3 minutes ago, Teddeer said: I'd be interested to hear the names of the 8 sides you think will finish below us. I’d be interested to hear where we’ve added the squad depth that we lacked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 7 August, 2021 Share Posted 7 August, 2021 1st to 20th 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 7 August, 2021 Share Posted 7 August, 2021 Relegated with Palace and Brentford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 7 August, 2021 Share Posted 7 August, 2021 15/16th. Palace might be a car crash under Viera. Newcastle will be worse with crowds. Manager at Burnley is jaded and new owners prob want to replace. None of the 3 promoted sides are going to tear it up. Brighton can flatter to deceive. Wolves new manager might be shit. Everton also has potential to be hilarious car crash. West Ham will dip this year. There you go some reasons to be cheerful. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuel Posted 7 August, 2021 Share Posted 7 August, 2021 I would take 17th right now. I think we may be around this area and hope we have the mental fortitude to stay above the drop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickendippers Posted 7 August, 2021 Share Posted 7 August, 2021 13th if we can get someone who can put the ball in the back of the net as we will create chances especially now we are counter-attacking. 15th otherwise. Need an early win though but that's not guaranteed with our fixtures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 7 August, 2021 Share Posted 7 August, 2021 3 minutes ago, whelk said: 15/16th. Palace might be a car crash under Viera. Newcastle will be worse with crowds. Manager at Burnley is jaded and new owners prob want to replace. None of the 3 promoted sides are going to tear it up. Brighton can flatter to deceive. Wolves new manager might be shit. Everton also has potential to be hilarious car crash. West Ham will dip this year. There you go some reasons to be cheerful. The Premier League seems to have become this weird enigma where you can be absolute dog sh*t and still finish 12th or spend £200m and only end up 11th. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 7 August, 2021 Share Posted 7 August, 2021 18 minutes ago, Teddeer said: I'd be interested to hear the names of the 8 sides you think will finish below us. 14 minutes ago, The Kraken said: I’d be interested to hear where we’ve added the squad depth that we lacked. I think we'll finish above all the promoted teams, as well as Brighton, Wolves, Newcastle, Burnley and Palace. And I'm not convinced that Leeds and West Ham will be anywhere near as good as they were last year. We’ve improved because we have multiple defensive permutations that we didn’t have last year, and wing backs on both sides who will be pivotal to an effective attacking style. The caveats? Ballsing up the Ings replacement, losing and not replacing Vestergaard, and another injury to Romeu. But there could also be some nice, young surprises. A bit rose-tinted? Sure, but there's not much point following footy with a negative mindset. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 7 August, 2021 Share Posted 7 August, 2021 11 minutes ago, aintforever said: Relegated with Palace and Brentford. Think Brentford will be okay this season, possibly a Sheff Utd in their first season up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 7 August, 2021 Share Posted 7 August, 2021 Relegated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hackedoff Posted 7 August, 2021 Share Posted 7 August, 2021 The club will get what it deserves in terms of its ambition and footballing nous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 7 August, 2021 Share Posted 7 August, 2021 Either 17th or 20th. Right now feels like 20th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 7 August, 2021 Share Posted 7 August, 2021 16th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totton Saint Posted 7 August, 2021 Share Posted 7 August, 2021 23 minutes ago, whelk said: 15/16th. Palace might be a car crash under Viera. Newcastle will be worse with crowds. Manager at Burnley is jaded and new owners prob want to replace. None of the 3 promoted sides are going to tear it up. Brighton can flatter to deceive. Wolves new manager might be shit. Everton also has potential to be hilarious car crash. West Ham will dip this year. There you go some reasons to be cheerful. Thank goodness for some optimism amongst al the gloom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWar Posted 7 August, 2021 Share Posted 7 August, 2021 Damn you are all negative, I'm going 13th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 7 August, 2021 Share Posted 7 August, 2021 I desperately want to be optimistic but I feel that we will be this season’s Sheff Utd. After the Liverpool win in January we have been awful. Since then we’ve only got weaker and not addressed our problems. So many of our defeats are similar. No attacking threat and full of mistakes at the back. If you look back at the goals we conceded last season, about 70% of them, the replay starts with us on the ball. Hoping that somehow 3 sides are worse than us and/or we get in some inspired signings. I’ve been wrong many times so maybe they’ll surprise me but it looks a bit gloomy right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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