AlexLaw76 Posted 16 January, 2022 Share Posted 16 January, 2022 Just now, Turkish said: Not that appalling. They beat us and we’ve got a better squad than Villa, is they’ve just beat the genius champions league winner Benitez and the incredible job he’s doing. 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 16 January, 2022 Share Posted 16 January, 2022 12 hours ago, TWar said: Or were you busy watching your guy Eddie Howe guiding another team to the championship? You can’t help yourself can you? My guy? This is the post you’ve twisted round to make me a “fan boy”, and him “my guy”. Note the suspicion he’s a one trick pony, wont replicate his Boscombe success, and wouldn’t want him managing us. Other than that, good point well made. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 16 January, 2022 Share Posted 16 January, 2022 Tuesday night Burnley v Watford. A win for Watford creates a gap between them and the bottom 3 a win for Burnley lifts them off bottom and puts Watford back into trouble. Big game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 16 January, 2022 Share Posted 16 January, 2022 5 minutes ago, Turkish said: Tuesday night Burnley v Watford. A win for Watford creates a gap between them and the bottom 3 a win for Burnley lifts them off bottom and puts Watford back into trouble. Big game. Will Burnley bother to turn up? Did you see Watford’s game after that is Friday against Norwich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWar Posted 16 January, 2022 Share Posted 16 January, 2022 16 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said: You can’t help yourself can you? My guy? This is the post you’ve twisted round to make me a “fan boy”, and him “my guy”. Note the suspicion he’s a one trick pony, wont replicate his Boscombe success, and wouldn’t want him managing us. Other than that, good point well made. There it is "bloody good job" getting relegated. Still funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 16 January, 2022 Share Posted 16 January, 2022 6 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said: Will Burnley bother to turn up? Did you see Watford’s game after that is Friday against Norwich. So they do, massive week for them then. A couple of wins and they pull away from the bottom 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarvSFC Posted 16 January, 2022 Share Posted 16 January, 2022 3 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said: It is madness that Norwich - who have been appalling - are 3rd bottom and only 1 point from safety. If course, that is aided by them having played more than anyone else (4 more than Burnley), with Newcastle and Watford both being shite Yep, and it still gets me how Newcastle and Burnley, who have only won one match after 20 and 17 matches need just another win and a Watford loss and one of them can get out of the relegation zone. Madness, any other season and one win at this stage would see you cut adrift. In other news, Leicester have only played one league fixture since Boxing Day. Rodgers' sides usually collapse in the second half of the season, wonder if the same will happen this season given the systematic break they've created. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 16 January, 2022 Share Posted 16 January, 2022 28 minutes ago, HarvSFC said: Yep, and it still gets me how Newcastle and Burnley, who have only won one match after 20 and 17 matches need just another win and a Watford loss and one of them can get out of the relegation zone. Madness, any other season and one win at this stage would see you cut adrift. Burnley v Newcastle, is their last game of the premiereship season. I do hope that the gods of football are lining up a Chris Woods own goal that keeps Burnley up and condemns Newcastle to the championship. I would love it... as some famous bloke once said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 16 January, 2022 Share Posted 16 January, 2022 Benitez sacked. Announcement due tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 16 January, 2022 Share Posted 16 January, 2022 2 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said: Benitez sacked. Announcement due tomorrow. Bugger. Don't they realise that most clubs wait until after a defeat Vs Saints before sacking the gaffer? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 16 January, 2022 Share Posted 16 January, 2022 1 hour ago, TWar said: There it is "bloody good job" getting relegated. Still funny. Three steps forward, one step back wasn’t it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWar Posted 16 January, 2022 Share Posted 16 January, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said: Benitez sacked. Announcement due tomorrow. Sold Digne due to his dispute with Benitez, then sack Benitez like a week later. Probably the worst run club in the league. Edited 16 January, 2022 by TWar 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 16 January, 2022 Share Posted 16 January, 2022 5 minutes ago, TWar said: Sold Digne due to his dispute with Benitez, then sack Benitez like a week later. Probably the worst run club in the league. Live footage of their managerial search: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman Posted 16 January, 2022 Share Posted 16 January, 2022 1 hour ago, TWar said: There it is "bloody good job" getting relegated. Still funny. Weird take. Especially considering your love for Rafa who also got relegated recently. Do you not think that Howe done a good job at bournemouth, by getting them from the bottom of L2 to a regular premier league team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWar Posted 16 January, 2022 Share Posted 16 January, 2022 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Dman said: Weird take. Especially considering your love for Rafa who also got relegated recently. Do you not think that Howe done a good job at bournemouth, by getting them from the bottom of L2 to a regular premier league team? I think Bournemouth were very wealthy and Howe did well as a lower league manager but when he got to the prem he consistently underperformed their spending until getting relegated. Fine at lower levels, poor at the top level. Like Adkins. Rafa managed some of the biggest clubs in the world with two Spanish league titles, an fa Cup, a champions league, a two Europa leagues, the Spanish Cup and a few other things too. Eddie Howe has won one thing ever, a championship trophy. An achievement so unimpressive compared to Rafa I didn't even bother to list the one he won. To compare the two is honestly a bit ridiculous. Not as ridiculous as Ralph to the lad in charge of San Marino but its up there. Edited 16 January, 2022 by TWar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 16 January, 2022 Share Posted 16 January, 2022 Been particularly unimpressed with Rafa at Everton. Poor poor job, fully deserved the sack. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman Posted 16 January, 2022 Share Posted 16 January, 2022 17 minutes ago, TWar said: I think Bournemouth were very wealthy and Howe did well as a lower league manager but when he got to the prem he consistently underperformed their spending until getting relegated. Fine at lower levels, poor at the top level. Like Adkins. Rafa managed some of the biggest clubs in the world with two Spanish league titles, an fa Cup, a champions league, a two Europa leagues, the Spanish Cup and a few other things too. Eddie Howe has won one thing ever, a championship trophy. An achievement so unimpressive compared to Rafa I didn't even bother to list the one he won. To compare the two is honestly a bit ridiculous. Not as ridiculous as Ralph to the lad in charge of San Marino but its up there. Do you acknowledge he done a good job then? The comparison was with relegation, not their history. Both took a side down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman Posted 16 January, 2022 Share Posted 16 January, 2022 2 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said: Been particularly unimpressed with Rafa at Everton. Poor poor job, fully deserved the sack. Like Jose, a good manager 10/15 years ago doesn’t make them a good manager today. Rafa is past it now, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWar Posted 16 January, 2022 Share Posted 16 January, 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Dman said: Do you acknowledge he done a good job then? The comparison was with relegation, not their history. Both took a side down. I acknowledge he did a serviceable job in the lower leagues with a good budget before failing in the big leagues like many others before him. Both taking a side down is a very uncharitable way to put it, given Rafa had a crap side and no backing for half a season and took over when they were in the relegation zone. Howe had his team for years and couldn't organise the defence so they went down. Edited 16 January, 2022 by TWar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman Posted 16 January, 2022 Share Posted 16 January, 2022 Just now, TWar said: I acknowledge he did a serviceable job in the lower leagues with a good budget before failing in the big leagues like many others before him. Pretty much as Lord D said then, cheers for clarifying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWar Posted 16 January, 2022 Share Posted 16 January, 2022 1 minute ago, Dman said: Pretty much as Lord D said then, cheers for clarifying. Lord D said he did a "bloody good job" with money. He did not, he was serviceable at lower levels and wildly out of his depth in the prem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWar Posted 16 January, 2022 Share Posted 16 January, 2022 19 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said: Been particularly unimpressed with Rafa at Everton. Poor poor job, fully deserved the sack. That's because you always blame the manager for everything and don't consider lack of backing or injuries or anything, you were the same with Ralph last season. You might have limited comprehension but atleast you are consistent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman Posted 16 January, 2022 Share Posted 16 January, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, TWar said: Lord D said he did a "bloody good job" with money. He did not, he was serviceable at lower levels and wildly out of his depth in the prem. ‘Wildly out of his depth’. 5 seasons in the premier league, with bournemouth might I add, with an average league position of 13th… if you say so 🙈🤡🤡🤡 Edited 16 January, 2022 by Dman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 16 January, 2022 Share Posted 16 January, 2022 The situation at Everton goes beyond the manager. They are tied up by FFP because they spent shit loads a few years ago, that spending should have propelled them to the Top 4 levels, but it didn't as their scouting, not just one or two...but most of their signings have been as bad as anything I've ever seen to be honest. They've got themselves in a right mess through terrible recruitment, they gave Rafa the baton knowing that he'd be working with freebies and the such in the market (although they did get Dignes replacement before they sold him). He's not blameless, but there are deeper problems at Everton beyond the manager. Ideally they need a massive clear-out. Iwobi, Gomes, Keane, Coleman, Allan need to go and they need to reinvest similar to how we are operating. I didn't see it coming a few years ago, but I think we've stolen a bit of a march on Everton in terms of our own development from a similar, albiet much less extreme, situation. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 16 January, 2022 Share Posted 16 January, 2022 5 minutes ago, TWar said: That's because you always blame the manager for everything and don't consider lack of backing or injuries or anything, You tried to be a clever dick by praising Rafa when everyone else thought it was a poor appointment & it has backfired. Looked a good appointment on your spreadsheet though, How’s Steve G getting on have you updated the spreadsheet yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nta786 Posted 16 January, 2022 Share Posted 16 January, 2022 Just now, S-Clarke said: The situation at Everton goes beyond the manager. They are tied up by FFP because they spent shit loads a few years ago, that spending should have propelled them to the Top 4 levels, but it didn't as their scouting, not just one or two...but most of their signings have been as bad as anything I've ever seen to be honest. Yep although with the amounts they have spent I don’t see them getting relegated, as they are PL capable players, but if Evertonians ever thought they’d propel into a regular top 8 club with those purchases they’re deluded. I’m very glad at their plight, just need Newcastle to also use up their FFP allowance regardless of their owners and that’ll give us a good chance to steal a march if we have a window where we get all our signings right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWar Posted 16 January, 2022 Share Posted 16 January, 2022 3 minutes ago, Dman said: ‘Wildly out of his depth’. 5 seasons in the premier league, with bournemouth might I add, with an average league position of 13th… if you say so 🙈🤡🤡🤡 Spent 9th most in the league, average 13th, gets relegated. Super impressive... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 16 January, 2022 Share Posted 16 January, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Dman said: ‘Wildly out of his depth’. 5 seasons in the premier league, with bournemouth might I add, with an average league position of 13th… if you say so 🙈🤡🤡🤡 This is where his comparison with Adkins is ridiculous. Adkins managed for half a season in the top flight. Howe kept Boscombe there for 4. There are 10 teams that will get relegated if they have a poor season, If Burnley go down this season, Twar will probably claim Dyche was out of his depth 🤪 Edited 16 January, 2022 by Lord Duckhunter 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman Posted 16 January, 2022 Share Posted 16 January, 2022 2 minutes ago, TWar said: Spent 9th most in the league, average 13th, gets relegated. Super impressive... We gonna go down that route? Let’s look at the squad value of your boy, rafa’s club… but then you’ll pull the injury card. But Of course, injuries don’t matter when it doesn’t suit your agenda. Twrong 🤡🤡 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWar Posted 16 January, 2022 Share Posted 16 January, 2022 1 minute ago, Lord Duckhunter said: You tried to be a clever dick by praising Rafa when everyone else thought it was a poor appointment & it has backfired. Looked a good appointment on your spreadsheet though, How’s Steve G getting on have you updated the spreadsheet yet? Stevie G is below us in the table, thanks for checking... It was a good appointment, Rafa is a internationally renowned CL winning manager. Not his fault his only two good forwards were out most of the season and he didn't have any investment as Everton are financially crippled by ffp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 16 January, 2022 Author Share Posted 16 January, 2022 If ever a team should be calling off games it should be Leeds. Respect to Bielsa who doesn’t piss about with excuses 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWar Posted 16 January, 2022 Share Posted 16 January, 2022 4 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said: This is where his comparison with Adkins is ridiculous. Adkins managed for half a season in the top flight. Howe kept Boscombe there for 4. There are 10 teams that will get relegated if they have a poor season, If Burnley go down this season, Twar will probably claim Dyche was out of his depth 🤪 Burnley spent nothing, Bournemouth spent a fortune. Dyche has kept his team up despite being consistently in the bottom 3 for spend for years. Howe went down having been in the top half for spend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWar Posted 16 January, 2022 Share Posted 16 January, 2022 5 minutes ago, Dman said: We gonna go down that route? Let’s look at the squad value of your boy, rafa’s club… but then you’ll pull the injury card. But Of course, injuries don’t matter when it doesn’t suit your agenda. Twrong 🤡🤡 What do you mean the "injury card", if your best players are injured then you will do worse. Everton have 3 good players (two now Digne is gone) and they have all been out for big spells. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWar Posted 16 January, 2022 Share Posted 16 January, 2022 16 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: The situation at Everton goes beyond the manager. They are tied up by FFP because they spent shit loads a few years ago, that spending should have propelled them to the Top 4 levels, but it didn't as their scouting, not just one or two...but most of their signings have been as bad as anything I've ever seen to be honest. They've got themselves in a right mess through terrible recruitment, they gave Rafa the baton knowing that he'd be working with freebies and the such in the market (although they did get Dignes replacement before they sold him). He's not blameless, but there are deeper problems at Everton beyond the manager. Ideally they need a massive clear-out. Iwobi, Gomes, Keane, Coleman, Allan need to go and they need to reinvest similar to how we are operating. I didn't see it coming a few years ago, but I think we've stolen a bit of a march on Everton in terms of our own development from a similar, albiet much less extreme, situation. Too much nuance, if the team does bad its always the manager 100% of the time. That's why these fools come on after any loss and blame Ralph immediately, SKDman even tried to blame Ralph for Valery getting sent off in a game we won the other day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman Posted 16 January, 2022 Share Posted 16 January, 2022 4 minutes ago, TWar said: What do you mean the "injury card", if your best players are injured then you will do worse. Everton have 3 good players (two now Digne is gone) and they have all been out for big spells. Yes, like when Bournemouth had a stupid amount of injuries in the season they went down? But that was down to a manager ‘wildly out his depth’. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErwinK1961 Posted 16 January, 2022 Share Posted 16 January, 2022 7 minutes ago, Dman said: Yes, like when Bournemouth had a stupid amount of injuries in the season they went down? But that was down to a manager ‘wildly out his depth’. Can’t you both just f**k off somewhere else rather than pollute yet another thread with your drivel? 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErwinK1961 Posted 16 January, 2022 Share Posted 16 January, 2022 17 minutes ago, whelk said: If ever a team should be calling off games it should be Leeds. Respect to Bielsa who doesn’t piss about with excuses Spot on, fair play to them. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman Posted 16 January, 2022 Share Posted 16 January, 2022 13 minutes ago, TWar said: Too much nuance, if the team does bad its always the manager 100% of the time. That's why these fools come on after any loss and blame Ralph immediately, SKDman even tried to blame Ralph for Valery getting sent off in a game we won the other day. Another lie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 16 January, 2022 Share Posted 16 January, 2022 Rafa sacked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWar Posted 16 January, 2022 Share Posted 16 January, 2022 32 minutes ago, Dman said: Yes, like when Bournemouth had a stupid amount of injuries in the season they went down? But that was down to a manager ‘wildly out his depth’. They didn't have players out anywhere the quality of DCL or Richarlison, or players nearly as important to them as those two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 16 January, 2022 Share Posted 16 January, 2022 Leeds doing a Saints at West Ham I see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 16 January, 2022 Author Share Posted 16 January, 2022 (edited) Can we buy Raphinha? Might be contentious but see him as an upgrade on Redmond Edited 16 January, 2022 by whelk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiberalCommunist Posted 16 January, 2022 Share Posted 16 January, 2022 Wow, this is like a hot knife through butter. Whu are a mess! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Tony Posted 16 January, 2022 Share Posted 16 January, 2022 fairplay Leeds, they've been thin on the ground and still played. Don't know how I was unaware, but 2 week 'winter break' at the end of the month? Surely the postponed games will be getting rearranged for then, Leicester have already had a break Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 16 January, 2022 Share Posted 16 January, 2022 3 minutes ago, whelk said: Can we buy Raphinha? Might be contentious but see him as an upgrade on Redmond Would be great but not a chance in hell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWar Posted 16 January, 2022 Share Posted 16 January, 2022 22 minutes ago, whelk said: Can we buy Raphinha? Might be contentious but see him as an upgrade on Redmond Way above our pay grade unfortunately. Linked with Liverpool as a possible successor to Mane who has dropped off of late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 16 January, 2022 Share Posted 16 January, 2022 25 minutes ago, Saint_Tony said: fairplay Leeds, they've been thin on the ground and still played. Don't know how I was unaware, but 2 week 'winter break' at the end of the month? Surely the postponed games will be getting rearranged for then, Leicester have already had a break Nope NUFC are going to Saudi for a break. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenilworthy Posted 16 January, 2022 Share Posted 16 January, 2022 27 minutes ago, Saint_Tony said: fairplay Leeds, they've been thin on the ground and still played. Don't know how I was unaware, but 2 week 'winter break' at the end of the month? Surely the postponed games will be getting rearranged for then, Leicester have already had a break You would think that Newcastle would be obliged to play a catchup game on January 29. But they are off for a two week training camp in Saudi 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 16 January, 2022 Share Posted 16 January, 2022 42 minutes ago, Saint_Tony said: fairplay Leeds, they've been thin on the ground and still played. Don't know how I was unaware, but 2 week 'winter break' at the end of the month? Surely the postponed games will be getting rearranged for then, Leicester have already had a break Isn't it a designated international break, not a winter break. I know South America countries are playing catching up with fixtures, European countries not playing, not sure about Asia. Some clubs already have players at African nations and will have Brazil / Argentina players so I doubt any Premier league games will be played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 16 January, 2022 Author Share Posted 16 January, 2022 Saint Mikey understood😀 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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