eurosaint Posted 28 April, 2022 Share Posted 28 April, 2022 3 hours ago, Dman said: I said months ago they were running him into the ground. Specifically after they complained about him playing for England because of his knee’s and then proceeded to play him for 90 minutes 3 days later. Ive given reasons as to why I think the medical staff and Manager are partly to blame, as well as bad luck. It’s not about not being subtle, just giving my opinion and reasons behind that. If only we had you running the club instead of the current morons (your words, not mine!) ! You really do come across as a first class idiot ☹️ 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman Posted 28 April, 2022 Share Posted 28 April, 2022 3 minutes ago, eurosaint said: If only we had you running the club instead of the current morons (your words, not mine!) ! You really do come across as a first class idiot ☹️ When have I ever said that? I haven’t, so literally your words… not mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman Posted 28 April, 2022 Share Posted 28 April, 2022 32 minutes ago, Streaky said: Hardly been run into the ground, had less than half the game time prowse has and he's been fine. Prowse isn’t carrying a knee injury though is he. The club were clearly concerned about it or they wouldn’t have moaned about him being picked to play for England… despite then playing him 3 days later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austsaint Posted 28 April, 2022 Share Posted 28 April, 2022 47 minutes ago, The Cat said: He'd only played 81 minutes in the last 3 weeks. These injuries are totally random and can happen any time if you are unfortunate enough. This really is, or should be the final word on Livramento's injury. Unlucky, random and definitely not anything to do with his meniscus problem in the other knee. Look forward to seeing him back in a Saints shirt early next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwertyell Posted 28 April, 2022 Share Posted 28 April, 2022 33 minutes ago, Dman said: Prowse isn’t carrying a knee injury though is he. He was at the start of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 28 April, 2022 Share Posted 28 April, 2022 It's a bloody disgrace. The club should've been more careful and this wouldn't have happened. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes_and_Watson Posted 29 April, 2022 Share Posted 29 April, 2022 4 hours ago, Dark Munster said: It's a bloody disgrace. The club should've been more careful and this wouldn't have happened. That was sneaky, revealing next year's kit not on the kit thread. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 29 April, 2022 Share Posted 29 April, 2022 On 28/04/2022 at 06:16, Dman said: I said months ago they were running him into the ground. Specifically after they complained about him playing for England because of his knee’s and then proceeded to play him for 90 minutes 3 days later. Ive given reasons as to why I think the medical staff and Manager are partly to blame, as well as bad luck. It’s not about not being subtle, just giving my opinion and reasons behind that. ACL is not that sort of injury, if anything not being match fit and not having full strength in the surrounding muscles would more likely cause injury rather than overuse, you can't overuse your ACL, it just breaks, usually due to a sudden twist or stopping motion. If he'd torn a hamstring or something similar after having hamstring issues then yes you could make a case for him being rested or eased back into action more gently. But an ACL is just bad luck, its was the action he did at the time that caused it, not any previous injuries or needing rest etc. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 17 June, 2022 Share Posted 17 June, 2022 Thought he would have got in the top 100 Golden Boy nominations. Scrolled through the list but no sign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes_and_Watson Posted 17 June, 2022 Share Posted 17 June, 2022 45 minutes ago, skintsaint said: Thought he would have got in the top 100 Golden Boy nominations. Scrolled through the list but no sign. All sounds a bit creepy. Not a search I want on my browser history. 🙂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloggy saint Posted 17 June, 2022 Share Posted 17 June, 2022 32 minutes ago, Holmes_and_Watson said: All sounds a bit creepy. Not a search I want on my browser history. 🙂 Agreed! The term 'Golden Boy' is very ill conceived and just sounds wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 17 June, 2022 Share Posted 17 June, 2022 3 hours ago, Holmes_and_Watson said: All sounds a bit creepy. Not a search I want on my browser history. 🙂 I once logged on in an Italian internet cafe and a previous user's search appeared.. "neked boys". Obviously not one of my students of English... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted 17 June, 2022 Share Posted 17 June, 2022 3 hours ago, cloggy saint said: Agreed! The term 'Golden Boy' is very ill conceived and just sounds wrong. Everyone wants to touch the Golden Boy. Fantastic live track incidentally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 24 June, 2022 Share Posted 24 June, 2022 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 24 June, 2022 Share Posted 24 June, 2022 31 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: I wish the lad no harm, just keep in mind Sam McQueen before you get too excited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 24 June, 2022 Share Posted 24 June, 2022 2 hours ago, VectisSaint said: I wish the lad no harm, just keep in mind Sam McQueen before you get too excited. Oh come on, that's a daft comment. Sam's surgery wasn't a success, and he got a serious infection. For every Sam Mcqueen there's many, many successful ACL recoveries. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 6 July, 2022 Share Posted 6 July, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 6 July, 2022 Share Posted 6 July, 2022 On 24/06/2022 at 23:01, egg said: Oh come on, that's a daft comment. Sam's surgery wasn't a success, and he got a serious infection. For every Sam Mcqueen there's many, many successful ACL recoveries. So why is it daft to temper expectations? You are allegedly a Saints supporter so should know all about that. There are few that come back from an ACL as good as new, and those that do take time I'm confident Tino will as well, all being well but I'm not going to fall for the hype that his return is already going better than expected. Will be truly surprised (and delighted) if we see him in action before 2023. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 6 July, 2022 Share Posted 6 July, 2022 Just now, VectisSaint said: So why is it daft to temper expectations? You are allegedly a Saints supporter so should know all about that. There are few that come back from an ACL as good as new, and those that do take time I'm confident Tino will as well, all being well but I'm not going to fall for the hype that his return is already going better than expected. Will be truly surprised (and delighted) if we see him in action before 2023. It's crass and unnecessary imo to link one players failed recovery to another's hopefully successful one. I'll stay positive, you do whatever suits you. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 5 October, 2022 Share Posted 5 October, 2022 9th most valuable right back in the world? Really hope he comes back from injury as good as he can be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted 5 October, 2022 Share Posted 5 October, 2022 41 minutes ago, SNSUN said: 9th most valuable right back in the world? Really hope he comes back from injury as good as he can be. Where's KWP in the list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danjosaint Posted 5 October, 2022 Share Posted 5 October, 2022 Dont know whats funnier TAA being higher than Cancelo or Emerson Royale being on the list 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee On Solent Saint Posted 5 October, 2022 Share Posted 5 October, 2022 1 hour ago, danjosaint said: Dont know whats funnier TAA being higher than Cancelo or Emerson Royale being on the list Not sure about Dalot either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Corbyn Posted 6 October, 2022 Share Posted 6 October, 2022 13 hours ago, Lee On Solent Saint said: Not sure about Dalot either Dalot is very good tbf, as he's shown recently. Issue is he spent most of his career playing for OGS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SambaMaverick Posted 6 October, 2022 Share Posted 6 October, 2022 Those are some gnarly scars. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toussaint Posted 6 October, 2022 Share Posted 6 October, 2022 17 hours ago, danjosaint said: Dont know whats funnier TAA being higher than Cancelo or Emerson Royale being on the list I couldn't see that, the bloke is a weak link in the spurs team. Better than Pavard?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 6 October, 2022 Share Posted 6 October, 2022 Some massive PL bias in that list and a Liverpool love in. Hakimi, James, Pavard and Cancelo are all better than TAA IMO. The 'most valuable right back in the world' is a guy that cannot do his primary job very well. And yes what is Emerson Royale doing in there? I think putting a lot of stock in age/potential of those players beyond actual ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeham_69 Posted 6 October, 2022 Share Posted 6 October, 2022 unrelated: not sure if i've heard this already or it came to me in a dream but i thought the song "evie" nearly works for tino: tino tino tino livramento <insert final syllable> tino livramento's back? tino livramento's ours etc etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ldnsaint Posted 12 January, 2023 Share Posted 12 January, 2023 https://www.hampshirelive.news/sport/football/football-news/tino-livramento-injury-setback-saints-8022851 Tino back on crutches, big blow. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 12 January, 2023 Share Posted 12 January, 2023 Absolutely gutted for him. Fingers crossed he can be back in contention for pre season. I'll try do some digging and see whats happened. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 12 January, 2023 Author Share Posted 12 January, 2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 12 January, 2023 Share Posted 12 January, 2023 Just now, SuperSAINT said: Muscular problems are fairly common after a lengthy time out unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBizzier69 Posted 12 January, 2023 Share Posted 12 January, 2023 Only just looked at this thread properly - that looks like some scarring around his left knee.....i thought most knee op's these days wouldn't be quite so invasive but that looks like hatchet job! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 12 January, 2023 Share Posted 12 January, 2023 That's a shame, this is so often the case after serious injuries though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceandfriendly Posted 12 January, 2023 Share Posted 12 January, 2023 Was very worried when reading he was back on crutches but relieved to hear it’s a separate injury. Get well soon Tino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 12 January, 2023 Share Posted 12 January, 2023 Doesn't sound too serious, probably was just starting to up intensity and under used muscles sometimes struggle to initially cope. Hopefully the club are being cautious, especially given his age, as these sort of things can lead to an injury cycle if you don't let everything properly heal and build up strength. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefizzy14 Posted 12 January, 2023 Share Posted 12 January, 2023 (edited) Fingers crossed everything is all ok for Tino and its just a minor muscular issue that will clear up in the short term. It's common to have this especially after an ACL injury. Edited 12 January, 2023 by davefizzy14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoobysaint Posted 8 August, 2023 Share Posted 8 August, 2023 https://www.southamptonfc.com/en/news/article/livramento-completes-newcastle-transfer Good move for all parties in my opinion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 8 August, 2023 Share Posted 8 August, 2023 24 minutes ago, Scoobysaint said: https://www.southamptonfc.com/en/news/article/livramento-completes-newcastle-transfer Good move for all parties in my opinion. Although it's sad to lose him, we didn't actually need him like we do some of the others. Very likely IMO he would have gone next year even if we had gone up so not a huge loss. Lots of other players I'd rather keep given the choice. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 8 August, 2023 Share Posted 8 August, 2023 1 minute ago, hypochondriac said: Although it's sad to lose him, we didn't actually need him like we do some of the others. Very likely IMO he would have gone next year even if we had gone up so not a huge loss. Lots of other players I'd rather keep given the choice. Agreed. 26 minutes ago, Scoobysaint said: https://www.southamptonfc.com/en/news/article/livramento-completes-newcastle-transfer Good move for all parties in my opinion. Yes, a nice send off message from the club as well... certainly different from what others have had over the years 😄 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 8 August, 2023 Share Posted 8 August, 2023 Just now, Saint86 said: Agreed. Yes, a nice send off message from the club as well... certainly different from what others have had over the years 😄 Tino was completely professional throughout and seems like a really nice lad. I hope he does really well. At least another 25 million for us here without significantly weakening the team is good business. I wonder if we will get Aarons in now or if we will also look to sell KWP (that would be a bit of a more painful loss IMO.) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iansums Posted 8 August, 2023 Share Posted 8 August, 2023 5 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: Although it's sad to lose him, we didn't actually need him like we do some of the others. Very likely IMO he would have gone next year even if we had gone up so not a huge loss. Lots of other players I'd rather keep given the choice. Agree with this, to be honest I'm not sure he could have put in a better performance than KWP on Friday night. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBizzier69 Posted 8 August, 2023 Share Posted 8 August, 2023 17 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: When he signed for such a tiny amount, I remember thinking this guy is going to make us so much money and he's certainly lived up to that. There is a scenario where he never recovers from his acl injury so it's actually brilliant that a club in our position can extract such good value I was wondering this when it said he'd passed his medical - how do they check for any acl weakness? Or do they just ask him to do certain exercises that would show up any issues with it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctoroncall Posted 8 August, 2023 Share Posted 8 August, 2023 1 minute ago, LeBizzier69 said: I was wondering this when it said he'd passed his medical - how do they check for any acl weakness? Or do they just ask him to do certain exercises that would show up any issues with it? There are strength tests around - leg squats, hop tests. probably mechanical machines as well now to do specific measures. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barsiem Posted 8 August, 2023 Share Posted 8 August, 2023 Personally I think selling livramento is a poor decision. Yes we clear £20m, but he has the potential to be worth so much more and we should be using him this season. When we lose kwp we'll go from two first class right backs to zero. If Max Aarons signs that'll mitigate, but I'd rather we got a season out of livramento 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabrice29 Posted 8 August, 2023 Share Posted 8 August, 2023 Shocked to find out Tino wanted the move all along despite what his PR team briefed to Tanswell. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Red Posted 8 August, 2023 Share Posted 8 August, 2023 Tino was always happy to stay if the club chose not to sell, as is Tella - although they were best buddies so it'll be interesting to see if that changes. But no player is ever going to say after a transfer is completed that they didn't want to go. Not what the fans of the new club want to hear. It'll be 'as soon as I heard of X-Clubs interest I couldn't wait to pull on the shirt for the greatest fans of this world famous club blahdy blah..... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 8 August, 2023 Share Posted 8 August, 2023 47 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: Tino was completely professional throughout and seems like a really nice lad. I hope he does really well. At least another 25 million for us here without significantly weakening the team is good business. I wonder if we will get Aarons in now or if we will also look to sell KWP (that would be a bit of a more painful loss IMO.) Yes. its actually almost ludicrous that a championship team can lose a player like Tino and it not detrimentally impact the starting 11. But for me its always been the case that KWP is the better player. Sadly i can't see us keeping him, and that will be a big loss - on his day he has been a cracking player for us and he's got a lot left in the tank as well. I would love the club to somehow tie him down to a new contract. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 8 August, 2023 Share Posted 8 August, 2023 21 minutes ago, LeBizzier69 said: I was wondering this when it said he'd passed his medical - how do they check for any acl weakness? Or do they just ask him to do certain exercises that would show up any issues with it? Not a lot you can do really, I expect they did a laxity test and then it’s basically a load of RTS tests and I believe they follow a certain 11 point protocol which basically tests strength of both legs and ensure they’re close as well as a ton of hop tests etc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ball boy Posted 8 August, 2023 Share Posted 8 August, 2023 Quality player who could and should develop into England’s first choice at some point if he stays fit. Good move for the lad who will get game time given that Newcastle also have Europe and Trippier is no spring chicken. Best of luck Tino! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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