SuperSAINT Posted 21 July, 2021 Share Posted 21 July, 2021 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 21 July, 2021 Share Posted 21 July, 2021 Yeah saw that,talk on here he was off to Watford, looks like a good move for both Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 21 July, 2021 Share Posted 21 July, 2021 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 21 July, 2021 Share Posted 21 July, 2021 Good news if true. Assume we have to pay them a development fee as he is 19? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted 21 July, 2021 Share Posted 21 July, 2021 (edited) An out of the blue signing? Nice. I know nothing about him, but given that his name is (almost) an anagram of Demilunes I am sure he will be a good defender. Edited 21 July, 2021 by Suhari Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiberalCommunist Posted 21 July, 2021 Share Posted 21 July, 2021 Turning down Chelsea's offer to sign for us, sounds like this kid wants to play. Welcome Dynel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disconnect Posted 21 July, 2021 Share Posted 21 July, 2021 Isnt this the guy who is originally from Southampton? I think someone on the forum knew his family? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumsaint Posted 21 July, 2021 Share Posted 21 July, 2021 (edited) Obligatory highlight video: Edited 21 July, 2021 by Brumsaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarvSFC Posted 21 July, 2021 Share Posted 21 July, 2021 Seems quite promising from the reports. I know nothing of him, but hopefully it works out for both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SuperSAINT Posted 21 July, 2021 Author Share Posted 21 July, 2021 29 minutes ago, Convict Colony said: Yeah saw that,talk on here he was off to Watford, looks like a good move for both Another win for the SS/CC scouting network 😜 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiberalCommunist Posted 21 July, 2021 Share Posted 21 July, 2021 Carillo's highlight reel was more exciting. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sambosa75 Posted 21 July, 2021 Share Posted 21 July, 2021 Exactly the sort of player we need to be signing and making a success of. This needs to be our blueprint for success. Attracting the youth players at the top clubs who are disillusioned with not progressing at their club and have the desire to improve. The fact this guy is apparently a Southampton lad too is a bonus of course but I'm glad we seem to be cottoning on. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 21 July, 2021 Share Posted 21 July, 2021 Sounds promising. Like the idea of us signing these sort of players. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 21 July, 2021 Author Share Posted 21 July, 2021 1 minute ago, sambosa75 said: Exactly the sort of player we need to be signing and making a success of. This needs to be our blueprint for success. Attracting the youth players at the top clubs who are disillusioned with not progressing at their club and have the desire to improve. The fact this guy is apparently a Southampton lad too is a bonus of course but I'm glad we seem to be cottoning on. All this 100%. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 21 July, 2021 Share Posted 21 July, 2021 (edited) A guess... - Salisu to replace Vestergaard as first choice. - Bednarek and Salisu as first choice centre back pairing. - Stephens and Simeu as back-up. - Vestergaard sold and funds used to improve the squad in other areas. Edited 21 July, 2021 by Matthew Le God 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSFC Posted 21 July, 2021 Share Posted 21 July, 2021 Just now, Matthew Le God said: Salisu to replace Vestergaard as first choice. Bednarek and Salisu as first choice pairing. Stephens and Simeu as back-up. Vestergaard sold. Know for a fact as done or presumption it will? If fact, who to and how much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 21 July, 2021 Share Posted 21 July, 2021 1 minute ago, MarkSFC said: Know for a fact as done or presumption it will? If fact, who to and how much? Not fact, a guess of events. I think Simeu will be viewed as a 1st team member rather than an under 23 team player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 21 July, 2021 Share Posted 21 July, 2021 In an ideal world he’d be replacing Stephens, who would leave for first team football but I’d agree the Vest theory is more likely. If this rumour is true of course. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSFC Posted 21 July, 2021 Share Posted 21 July, 2021 Just now, Matthew Le God said: Not fact, a guess of events. I think Simeu will be viewed as a 1st team member rather than an under 23 team player. Thought so but your phrasing wasn't clear enough to portray that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 21 July, 2021 Share Posted 21 July, 2021 I don't want Bednarek in the first team, thanks. How have we ended up with him on a long term contract and Vestergaard about to force a move due to his expiring ffs. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarvSFC Posted 21 July, 2021 Share Posted 21 July, 2021 (edited) Would allow us to use the Vestergaard money to focus on other aspects of the squad that are in more need of improving. Hopefully Bednarek would also get over his recent poor spell. Edited 21 July, 2021 by HarvSFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee On Solent Saint Posted 21 July, 2021 Share Posted 21 July, 2021 2 minutes ago, Saint_clark said: I don't want Bednarek in the first team, thanks. How have we ended up with him on a long term contract and Vestergaard about to force a move due to his expiring ffs. You think Vestergaard is any better than Bednarek? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 21 July, 2021 Share Posted 21 July, 2021 Just now, Lee On Solent Saint said: You think Vestergaard is any better than Bednarek? Yes, easily. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SambaMaverick Posted 21 July, 2021 Share Posted 21 July, 2021 Still think we'd need another CB to force Bednarek to buck his ideas up if Vestergaard went. Jan seemed way too comfortable last year. Sell Vestergaard for 20m and get someone else in for circa 10m. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 21 July, 2021 Share Posted 21 July, 2021 Just now, SambaMaverick said: Still think we'd need another CB to force Bednarek to buck his ideas up if Vestergaard went. Jan seemed way too comfortable last year. Sell Vestergaard for 20m and get someone else in for circa 10m. Of all the phrases I’ve ever seen used to describe Jan Bednarek, that’s the least believable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 21 July, 2021 Share Posted 21 July, 2021 (edited) Yes, he doesn't look like somebody unwilling to receive and play the ball forward. He's a bit of a vessel restricted in his ability to manoeuvre but his long passing is good. Edit: reply to LoSS Edited 21 July, 2021 by suewhistle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 21 July, 2021 Share Posted 21 July, 2021 Not convinced by Bednarek and Salisu as our first choice pairing to be honest, especially if the goals dry up at the other end. But good luck to this lad, sounds like a decent signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 21 July, 2021 Share Posted 21 July, 2021 (edited) These sorts of signings are sound. It seems as if these Chelsea youngers have got fed up with stagnating in the Chelsea Reserves or away on loan deals at Antwerp. I agree with a previous post above - I think this will allow Salisu to become a starter, Vestergaard to leave. Simeu and Stephens as number 3 and 4 Centre backs. That allows us to sell Vestergaard for a decent fee and reinvest that money in other areas of the squad. Could be a sound move and the bit of business that finally allows us to fill some holes in CM/wing back and maybe even up front. Edited 21 July, 2021 by S-Clarke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 21 July, 2021 Share Posted 21 July, 2021 8 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: These sorts of signings are sound. It seems as if these Chelsea youngers have got fed up with stagnating in the Chelsea Reserves or away on loan deals at Antwerp. He'd obviously get more playing time at Saints but I wonder how much we've guaranteed? Anyway, what's wrong with Antwerp, a wonderful place for both chocolate and beer?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 21 July, 2021 Share Posted 21 July, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, suewhistle said: He'd obviously get more playing time at Saints but I wonder how much we've guaranteed? Anyway, what's wrong with Antwerp, a wonderful place for both chocolate and beer?! Nothing wrong with Antwerp per-say! I just see Chelsea youngsters going back on loan there season after season, then eventually leaving on a free and never fulfilling thier potential. I wouldn't imagine he's coming here thinking he's going to be first choice, but in and around the first team for sure would be an expectation. Edited 21 July, 2021 by S-Clarke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Lion Tamer Posted 21 July, 2021 Share Posted 21 July, 2021 1 hour ago, Matthew Le God said: A guess... - Salisu to replace Vestergaard as first choice. - Bednarek and Salisu as first choice centre back pairing. - Stephens and Simeu as back-up. - Vestergaard sold and funds used to improve the squad in other areas. This does sound plausible but correct me if I'm wrong, wasn't our strategy at one stage to have two left footers and two right footers covering centre back? This leaves us just with Salisu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 21 July, 2021 Share Posted 21 July, 2021 No, I did understand your Antwerp point! I'd certainly like to visit again. 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 21 July, 2021 Share Posted 21 July, 2021 These youngsters have read the script, play for Southampton and you have a better than evens chance of advancing quickly into PL football. Do that well and you are more or less guaranteed a big money move to a top club like er... Chelseas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Lion Tamer Posted 21 July, 2021 Share Posted 21 July, 2021 1 hour ago, Brumsaint said: Obligatory highlight video: Looks like he's got a nice long pass on him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 21 July, 2021 Share Posted 21 July, 2021 8 minutes ago, Ex Lion Tamer said: This does sound plausible but correct me if I'm wrong, wasn't our strategy at one stage to have two left footers and two right footers covering centre back? This leaves us just with Salisu We have plenty of defenders with two left feet or two right feet. It would be nice to have at least one with one of each. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSFC Posted 21 July, 2021 Share Posted 21 July, 2021 18 minutes ago, Ex Lion Tamer said: This does sound plausible but correct me if I'm wrong, wasn't our strategy at one stage to have two left footers and two right footers covering centre back? This leaves us just with Salisu Perhaps it still is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 21 July, 2021 Share Posted 21 July, 2021 1 hour ago, sambosa75 said: Exactly the sort of player we need to be signing and making a success of. This needs to be our blueprint for success. Attracting the youth players at the top clubs who are disillusioned with not progressing at their club and have the desire to improve. The fact this guy is apparently a Southampton lad too is a bonus of course but I'm glad we seem to be cottoning on. I agree completely...although some of the people applauding a young player wanting to leave to play football will doubtless have criticised young Jankewitz for doing the same. Regardless, we've got a good young prospect and I hope he does well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danbert Posted 21 July, 2021 Share Posted 21 July, 2021 1 hour ago, Matthew Le God said: A guess... - Salisu to replace Vestergaard as first choice. - Bednarek and Salisu as first choice centre back pairing. - Stephens and Simeu as back-up. - Vestergaard sold and funds used to improve the squad in other areas Ouch - not sure about those backups, or Bednarek for that matter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodymatt Posted 21 July, 2021 Share Posted 21 July, 2021 3 year contract seems a bit on the short side? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 21 July, 2021 Share Posted 21 July, 2021 good stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 21 July, 2021 Share Posted 21 July, 2021 1 hour ago, Matthew Le God said: A guess... - Salisu to replace Vestergaard as first choice. - Bednarek and Salisu as first choice centre back pairing. - Stephens and Simeu as back-up. - Vestergaard sold and funds used to improve the squad in other areas. That sounds plausible to me, although I'm not convinced that Bednarek is good enough. Vestergaard should raise a few quid though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 21 July, 2021 Share Posted 21 July, 2021 1 hour ago, Matthew Le God said: A guess... - Salisu to replace Vestergaard as first choice. - Bednarek and Salisu as first choice centre back pairing. - Stephens and Simeu as back-up. - Vestergaard sold and funds used to improve the squad in other areas. Grim. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 21 July, 2021 Share Posted 21 July, 2021 18 minutes ago, goodymatt said: 3 year contract seems a bit on the short side? Would it have been better 5 then he doesn’t make it? We can extend it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodymatt Posted 21 July, 2021 Share Posted 21 July, 2021 1 minute ago, Give it to Ron said: Would it have been better 5 then he doesn’t make it? We can extend it We do seem to struggle when the player shows they are worth extending - Hojbjerg, Vestergaard and Ings all recent examples. Perhaps slightly different with a younger player but if he’s decent we could be forced to sell in 1-2 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpsaint Posted 21 July, 2021 Share Posted 21 July, 2021 Looks like a unit already and he’s only 19, local lad too - has the potential to be a good deal for us and him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 21 July, 2021 Share Posted 21 July, 2021 (edited) Nothing to dislike about this signing, exactly the type we should be looking to make more often. Re Salisu & Bednarek partnership the bit that is really lacking for me is ability on the ball. Bednarek is a very safe passer and Salisu seems the same. Can imagine oppo just letting them have the ball and covering their passing options and they would really struggle to initiate moves. Thats where Vestergaard does excel. Edited 21 July, 2021 by Dusic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefizzy14 Posted 21 July, 2021 Share Posted 21 July, 2021 This sounds promising. Exactly the sort of signing we look to make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 21 July, 2021 Share Posted 21 July, 2021 3 hours ago, Matthew Le God said: A guess... - Salisu to replace Vestergaard as first choice. - Bednarek and Salisu as first choice centre back pairing. - Stephens and Simeu as back-up. - Vestergaard sold and funds used to improve the squad in other areas. Seems a reasonable assumption. But by all accounts he wants out of Chelsea because he doesn't see a path to the first team. In that case, I doubt he would be happy to come here and be 4th choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cartman Posted 21 July, 2021 Share Posted 21 July, 2021 7 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said: Seems a reasonable assumption. But by all accounts he wants out of Chelsea because he doesn't see a path to the first team. In that case, I doubt he would be happy to come here and be 4th choice. Under MLG scenario, his competition for 3rd choice is Stephens. What more could he possibly want? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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