Give it to Ron Posted 7 July, 2023 Posted 7 July, 2023 5 hours ago, Bad Wolf said: Our second best player in the second half of last season you mean? Well that is a very high bar you have set what a lot of competition!
Colinjb Posted 7 July, 2023 Posted 7 July, 2023 40 minutes ago, SaintsFan86 said: So is Ron Davies, but there are certain inconvenient practicalities at work.
Saint_clark Posted 7 July, 2023 Posted 7 July, 2023 Fonte never relied on his pace even at his peak. He played 30 games last season, 38 the season before and 36 the season before that - in the season Lille won the French league no less. So his fitness isn't in question for me. We know he is an intelligent player who can pass the ball and he's a threat from set pieces going forward. I'd be all for this. Even if nothing else he'd be a feel good signing that would get people connecting with the team again in the way the managerial appointment should have done. 1
Give it to Ron Posted 8 July, 2023 Posted 8 July, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, Saint_clark said: Fonte never relied on his pace even at his peak. He played 30 games last season, 38 the season before and 36 the season before that - in the season Lille won the French league no less. So his fitness isn't in question for me. We know he is an intelligent player who can pass the ball and he's a threat from set pieces going forward. I'd be all for this. Even if nothing else he'd be a feel good signing that would get people connecting with the team again in the way the managerial appointment should have done. In French football that has no pace of play much power or aggression compared to English football. Fonte at nearly 40 is ridiculous and absolutely no sanity to it just ruled from heart. After 4-5 games of getting found out he would get slaughtered by our fan base. Perraud was supposed to be one of best full backs he does one run and blows out of his arse. As have said before we could make far better use of his wages on areas we need it. Edited 8 July, 2023 by Give it to Ron
Bad Wolf Posted 8 July, 2023 Posted 8 July, 2023 7 hours ago, Saint Fan CaM said: Madness if he’s brought back at 39! Why though? If he'd spent the last 3 years crocked and warming Lille's bench then fair enough but he hasn't. He's still fit and been playing regularly and playing well at that. So in that respect what's his age got to do with it?
rooney Posted 8 July, 2023 Posted 8 July, 2023 A great player for us but too old now to bring back. I would rathe have had Coady.
FarehamSaintJames Posted 8 July, 2023 Posted 8 July, 2023 People need to move on. But have you noticed it’s a certain age of fan that are desperate for his triumphant return. Accept reality, he’s late 30’s, yes he would be a great senior voice to have around but that would probably spell the end of JWP as captain/be a catalyst to him leaving after all these years of being the senior figure. Move on. There’s plenty of others out there if you pay the right wages and steer clear of the Man City play school. 1
Give it to Ron Posted 8 July, 2023 Posted 8 July, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, FarehamSaintJames said: People need to move on. But have you noticed it’s a certain age of fan that are desperate for his triumphant return. Accept reality, he’s late 30’s, yes he would be a great senior voice to have around but that would probably spell the end of JWP as captain/be a catalyst to him leaving after all these years of being the senior figure. Move on. There’s plenty of others out there if you pay the right wages and steer clear of the Man City play school. Yeah I’m 64 and I don’t want him back ! Him coming back will have nothing to do with JWP going that’s him wanting prem football and no 40% drop in wages. Edited 8 July, 2023 by Give it to Ron
CB Fry Posted 8 July, 2023 Posted 8 July, 2023 (edited) I don't see how this is "feel good" signing at all. He'll be 40 during next season. Absolutely ridiculous. Edited 8 July, 2023 by CB Fry 3
Convict Colony Posted 8 July, 2023 Posted 8 July, 2023 Guys 2014 called and said it wants it memories back. 1 4
eurosaint Posted 8 July, 2023 Posted 8 July, 2023 1 hour ago, Give it to Ron said: In French football that has no pace of play much power or aggression compared to English football. Fonte at nearly 40 is ridiculous and absolutely no sanity to it just ruled from heart. After 4-5 games of getting found out he would get slaughtered by our fan base. Perraud was supposed to be one of best full backs he does one run and blows out of his arse. As have said before we could make far better use of his wages on areas we need it. That Mbappe is a carthorse 🤣
SotonianWill Posted 8 July, 2023 Posted 8 July, 2023 38 minutes ago, Convict Colony said: Guys 2014 called and said it wants it memories back. I remember by the time he left he looked a bit off the pace, kept giving away penalties. 3
Lighthouse Posted 8 July, 2023 Posted 8 July, 2023 9 hours ago, Saint_clark said: Fonte never relied on his pace even at his peak Neither did Rasiak, I wouldn't have either of them back though. 2 1
Sfcphilc Posted 8 July, 2023 Posted 8 July, 2023 I think there's positives and negatives regarding Jose coming back. The positives are he's a former fans favourite, experienced and a leader on the pitch. Also he'd be great off the pitch mentoring the less experienced players we have. You can tell from numerous interviews he's done over the last few years that he still has a great love for the club. The negatives are he's 39 with question marks over his current level in terms of ability, pace and overall defending. If he was to come back as a 3rd or 4th CB option with a view to coaching in the future, I wouldn't be against it. 2
skintsaint Posted 8 July, 2023 Posted 8 July, 2023 Might as well just get RM to be player manager, he is a few years younger. 2
Give it to Ron Posted 8 July, 2023 Posted 8 July, 2023 1 hour ago, eurosaint said: That Mbappe is a carthorse 🤣 Read it again did I say players? It’s slow slow slow….
Deanovski Posted 8 July, 2023 Posted 8 July, 2023 2 hours ago, CB Fry said: I don't see how this is "feel good" signing at all. He'll be 40 during next season. Absolutely ridiculous. Shut up 😂🤡
Miltonaggro Posted 8 July, 2023 Posted 8 July, 2023 Noticed that like many of us who are getting on a bit, Jose now wears specs when not playing. On reflection, not sure that’s what we need in the new look central defence - Magooball! 🤓 ⚽️
East Kent Saint Posted 8 July, 2023 Posted 8 July, 2023 2 hours ago, eurosaint said: That Mbappe is a carthorse 🤣 Which is why he does OK in the french league 😄
Saint_clark Posted 8 July, 2023 Posted 8 July, 2023 1 hour ago, Lighthouse said: Neither did Rasiak, I wouldn't have either of them back though. He retired in 2014, Fonte has been playing 30+ games every season since then. 1
Saint_clark Posted 8 July, 2023 Posted 8 July, 2023 3 hours ago, FarehamSaintJames said: People need to move on. But have you noticed it’s a certain age of fan that are desperate for his triumphant return. Accept reality, he’s late 30’s, yes he would be a great senior voice to have around but that would probably spell the end of JWP as captain/be a catalyst to him leaving after all these years of being the senior figure. Move on. There’s plenty of others out there if you pay the right wages and steer clear of the Man City play school. What age would that be then? Didn't realise people's ages showed up on their profile...must not happen on mobile.
Stu Man Do Posted 8 July, 2023 Posted 8 July, 2023 Not sure I’d be comfortable with a 40 yr old CB. Clearly a decent player but will only go downhill from here. Liked him here the first time, appreciated what he did for us and enjoyed his doing well but he’d come back because the championship will still pay decent wages and we need something a bit more long term.
Saint Fan CaM Posted 8 July, 2023 Posted 8 July, 2023 3 hours ago, Bad Wolf said: Why though? If he'd spent the last 3 years crocked and warming Lille's bench then fair enough but he hasn't. He's still fit and been playing regularly and playing well at that. So in that respect what's his age got to do with it? Nothing if you think he’s going to have what it takes for a promotion place. He doesn’t (now).
farawaysaint Posted 8 July, 2023 Posted 8 July, 2023 I’d rather see if we can tempt Zlatan out of retirement for one more hoorah.
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 8 July, 2023 Posted 8 July, 2023 27 minutes ago, farawaysaint said: I’d rather see if we can tempt Zlatan out of retirement for one more hoorah. Gave him a bell. All he said was "What the fuck! Southampton! Is that my level?” 1
Cabrone Posted 8 July, 2023 Posted 8 July, 2023 He was a great player for us but a 40 y.o taking part in a 46 game slog of a season with big expectations on the players? Not sure about that.
Pamplemousse Posted 8 July, 2023 Posted 8 July, 2023 Everyone said the same about Thiago Silva when he went to Chelsea and he's been immense for them. Yes physically it may be a challenge and he won't be able to play every game but let's be honest, he's better than Lyanco.
Harry_SFC Posted 8 July, 2023 Posted 8 July, 2023 3 hours ago, Saint_clark said: What age would that be then? Didn't realise people's ages showed up on their profile...must not happen on mobile. What a stupid comment about age. I've seen plenty of people young and old who would be happy to see Fonte return. I have no problem with people thinking he may be over the hill. That's their opinion. However his stats and performances over the last few years suggest otherwise. If he's on sensible wages and can contribute on and off the pitch, it's a no brainer for me.
Lighthouse Posted 8 July, 2023 Posted 8 July, 2023 2 hours ago, Pamplemousse said: Everyone said the same about Thiago Silva when he went to Chelsea and he's been immense for them. Yes physically it may be a challenge and he won't be able to play every game but let's be honest, he's better than Lyanco. Thiago Silva was 35 when he signed for Chelsea and is a year younger than Fonte. Fonte looked like he was struggling at West Ham when he was 34. If you’re going to make the comparison, you’ll have to wait to see how TS performs in 2024/25, when he’ll be 39 going on 40. How can you be honest about something you’re only guessing about? There’s no evidence at all that he’s better than Lyanco. 4
Saint_clark Posted 8 July, 2023 Posted 8 July, 2023 21 minutes ago, Lighthouse said: Thiago Silva was 35 when he signed for Chelsea and is a year younger than Fonte. Fonte looked like he was struggling at West Ham when he was 34. If you’re going to make the comparison, you’ll have to wait to see how TS performs in 2024/25, when he’ll be 39 going on 40. How can you be honest about something you’re only guessing about? There’s no evidence at all that he’s better than Lyanco. You know we're a league lower, right? Jos Hooiveld looked unbeatable at this level.
Lord Duckhunter Posted 8 July, 2023 Posted 8 July, 2023 2 hours ago, Pamplemousse said: Everyone said the same about Thiago Silva when he went to Chelsea and he's been immense for them. 😂 Everyone. What a load of old pony. His last game prior to joining Chelsea was the Champions league final where he captained PSG, was still playing for Brazil, was about 5 years younger, and was a far better player than Jose ever was . Other than that, I can see the similarities… 1
FarehamSaintJames Posted 8 July, 2023 Posted 8 July, 2023 5 hours ago, Saint_clark said: What age would that be then? Didn't realise people's ages showed up on their profile...must not happen on mobile. As in you go on social media and it’s those between the ages of 20-30 that have seen him in his prime, believe he is the saviour, and forget that he is a 39 year old now. Anyone older is rightly saying he’s passed it and too old. Leave the past in the past. 1
Bad Wolf Posted 8 July, 2023 Posted 8 July, 2023 5 hours ago, Saint Fan CaM said: Nothing if you think he’s going to have what it takes for a promotion place. He doesn’t (now). Based on what?
CB Fry Posted 8 July, 2023 Posted 8 July, 2023 If this was any other 39 year old none of the divs on here would be remotely interested in him signing for us. 7
revolution saint Posted 8 July, 2023 Posted 8 July, 2023 We should sign Giorgio Chiellini. Make it happen Jason Wilcox
niceandfriendly Posted 8 July, 2023 Posted 8 July, 2023 Just hope that if we do sign him he isn’t made to play in the Bournemouth friendly. A legend such as Jose doesn’t deserve that utter embarrassment.
Saint Gifford Posted 8 July, 2023 Posted 8 July, 2023 3 hours ago, CB Fry said: If this was any other 39 year old none of the divs on here would be remotely interested in him signing for us. Agree with the any other 39 year old. But I think maybe the point is lost, a bit of identity can’t be a bad thing given our current position. 1
Ambsaint Posted 8 July, 2023 Posted 8 July, 2023 As a 1st team player, like Walcott, absolutely no thanks. As a v cheap wage (highly unlikely), experienced head to help out with what is looking like a young team (ie 4-5th choice CB/defensive coach/mentor) then maybe 1
captainchris Posted 8 July, 2023 Posted 8 July, 2023 (edited) Totally ridiculous. He had no pace left when he last played for us. He is way too old and would serve no purpose what so ever. It is a big fat definite no. Edited 8 July, 2023 by captainchris 5
danjosaint Posted 8 July, 2023 Posted 8 July, 2023 Maybe get Robbie Keane in as well, scored a couple in Soccer aid so still pretty sharp
Tamesaint Posted 9 July, 2023 Posted 9 July, 2023 (edited) If we are that nostalgic for the good old days when we used to get promoted wouldn't it be better to just bring back the sash shirt? Edited 9 July, 2023 by Tamesaint
eurosaint Posted 9 July, 2023 Posted 9 July, 2023 20 hours ago, Give it to Ron said: Read it again did I say players? It’s slow slow slow…. It was a joke, hence the (🤣) ! 1
Saint Fan CaM Posted 9 July, 2023 Posted 9 July, 2023 17 hours ago, Bad Wolf said: Based on what? Based on general observation that elder players will in general get taken to the cleaners by agile younger attackers. 2
Micky Posted 9 July, 2023 Posted 9 July, 2023 Non starter, move on. There is no place for sentiment if you are chasing success. 2
Appy Posted 9 July, 2023 Posted 9 July, 2023 Our fans are so weirdly obsessed with bringing old players back, move on. 2
Badger Posted 9 July, 2023 Posted 9 July, 2023 12 hours ago, Tamesaint said: If we are that nostalgic for the good old days when we used to get promoted wouldn't it be better to just bring back the sash shirt? Would have been a very popular option, over some of the recent efforts if it had been put to the vote I’m sure.
FarehamSaintJames Posted 9 July, 2023 Posted 9 July, 2023 1 hour ago, Appy said: Our fans are so weirdly obsessed with bringing old players back, move on. This. I’m amazed none of the Saints Twitter tribe have picked up that Morgan Schneiderlin is also out of contract. 😂 1
Appy Posted 9 July, 2023 Posted 9 July, 2023 1 minute ago, FarehamSaintJames said: This. I’m amazed none of the Saints Twitter tribe have picked up that Morgan Schneiderlin is also out of contract. 😂 Oh they have, saw one the other day.
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