SaintBobby Posted 30 May, 2021 Share Posted 30 May, 2021 It’s all a bit flat at the moment, but I think they’ll be 3 worse teams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee On Solent Saint Posted 30 May, 2021 Share Posted 30 May, 2021 I can't see Norwich doing anything but struggle. They'll be great to watch and win the neutral's support, but they lack even the quality that we have. Watford, I think will have a bit more about them next season and wouldn't be surprised if they manage to stay up. Brentford could go either way. If Toney hits the ground running they could be in for a decent season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danbert Posted 30 May, 2021 Share Posted 30 May, 2021 Burnley are broke Palace have no players and no manager Steve Bruce is dogshit Norwich, Brentford and Watford are all worse than us Wolves and Brighton are also in the mix Recently, we have recruited reasonably well. We have a young squad with players who will improve, and a manager who is capable. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 31 May, 2021 Share Posted 31 May, 2021 On 23/05/2021 at 18:32, benjii said: "Poor end". We've lost 15 of the last 21 league matches. That's one of the worst runs in PL history. We had a few dodgy decisions (Villa at home) but, still, we seem incapable of grinding out results. The good run we had at the start involved largely outperforming our XG. In other words, there is evidence that this run is our level and the early run was a purple patch. We scored lots of goals from set pieces and from outside the box. You can't rely on that. And for Villa at home there is Brighton away, where a ridiculous decision earned us 2 points. Could happen again, but I doubt it. We have stayed up because we've beaten the other bad teams enough this season but if the promoted three are better next season it will be very tough. It'll be a surprise if Ings is here next season. Maybe not Vest either. Bertrand is gone. So three signings, potentially, just to stand still. What happens if someone comes in for JWP? Reckon we'll fend them off? Plus still hamstrung in the goalkeeping department and an owner with zero drive, interest or motivation other than getting some cash back. I think we're a good bet for the drop. As you say we had the worst run in the PL in 25 years or so therefore it is likely that we will return to normal next season flatter to deceive and stay up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waylander Posted 31 May, 2021 Share Posted 31 May, 2021 20 hours ago, Danbert said: Burnley are broke Palace have no players and no manager Steve Bruce is dogshit Norwich, Brentford and Watford are all worse than us Wolves and Brighton are also in the mix Recently, we have recruited reasonably well. We have a young squad with players who will improve, and a manager who is capable. And Arsenal want St Maximen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWar Posted 31 May, 2021 Share Posted 31 May, 2021 (edited) 21 minutes ago, waylander said: And Arsenal want St Maximen He's proper overrated imo. His best ever season he scored 6 in france. Since coming to newcastle he has scored 3 and assisted 4 both seasons. Armstrong has comfortably outperformed him two seasons in a row. Same number of goals +assists as Redmond over the last two years. Flashy dribbler so people love him but similar to Boufal for me. Edited 31 May, 2021 by TWar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 31 May, 2021 Share Posted 31 May, 2021 Unless Norwich & Watford have significantly improved their squads since last year's relegations it is difficult to see how they will fare any better than they did last time and of course Brentford are third best in the Championship. It is hard to see past these three going straight back down. None of them have the quality or spending power of the few clubs like Wolves or Leeds who have established themselves in the top flight recently. The gap is huge. Having said that Saints will do well to avoid the drop, heaven only knows where they will find 40 points to survive from recent showings, it will be a formidable challenge. Start badly and we will be in trouble and Hasenhüttl will be gone by Christmas. Between these four for the drop. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 31 May, 2021 Share Posted 31 May, 2021 On 23/05/2021 at 19:18, pimpin4rizeal said: Adkins wasn’t a bad manager for us but do you remember how quickly we instantly improved when pochetino took over..we transformed instantly into a hard working horrible to play against teams and the tactics worked a treat. judt wanted to put that out there for those saying it’s the players and no one could get a tune out of them better then Ralph.. gotta ask the questions does Ralph make tactical changes that benefit us very often in game ? does he learn from bad runs of form and do differant things to try get a differant result ? is his player selection and use of subs good? all the talk about him being some thinking manager that analyses the shit out of everything and has tactics and his finger on the pulse of everything I’m really not seeing it Bloke has no self awareness, he seems to think that our shambolic defensive performances are solely down to the players (ref: Echo article last week). Sooner he's gone the better. He's useless. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 31 May, 2021 Share Posted 31 May, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Charlie Wayman said: Bloke has no self awareness, he seems to think that our shambolic defensive performances are solely down to the players (ref: Echo article last week). Sooner he's gone the better. He's useless. Can you link to the article and place in the article where it says that? Edited 31 May, 2021 by Matthew Le God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 31 May, 2021 Share Posted 31 May, 2021 (edited) On 30/05/2021 at 16:36, Danbert said: Burnley are broke Palace have no players and no manager Steve Bruce is dogshit Norwich, Brentford and Watford are all worse than us Wolves and Brighton are also in the mix Recently, we have recruited reasonably well. We have a young squad with players who will improve, and a manager who is capable. We’re also skint and going to lose our best player. Yet finished above us last season... I’d say the jury is still out on recent signings. Diallo started promising but regressed, Salisu looks good but hardly been exposed. Djenepo and adams aren’t good enough to keep us in the league. if we sign a few more Like these, we’ll be in big trouble. We’ve actually got worse rather than better, so that’s a concern. Manager is very tactically naive. As shown, If plan A is countered, then we’re fucked. Edited 31 May, 2021 by SKD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 31 May, 2021 Share Posted 31 May, 2021 1 minute ago, SKD said: adams not good enough to keep us in the league. What is that supposed to mean? He'll have a squad of team mates along side him and he has shown he is more than capable of performing and scoring at this level. A lot of teams in the league would love their second best striker to have scored 9 league goals like Adams did in 2020/21. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 31 May, 2021 Share Posted 31 May, 2021 18 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: What is that supposed to mean? He'll have a squad of team mates along side him and he has shown he is more than capable of performing and scoring at this level. A lot of teams in the league would love their second best striker to have scored 9 league goals like Adams did in 2020/21. It means if we make another window or 2 of signing players with the ability of Djenepo and adams, whilst losing those with the ability of ings we won’t stay in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFC Forever Posted 31 May, 2021 Share Posted 31 May, 2021 surely if we are to make a managerial change now would be a much better time to do it. Why wait until we have had a dire start and confidence is rock bottom? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 31 May, 2021 Share Posted 31 May, 2021 (edited) On 23/05/2021 at 19:24, JustinSFC said: Why would I have said the opposite last season? Moyes is a better manager than your mate Ralph full stop. LOL what? He's had ONE good season, largely because they fluked out on recruitment (I mean most people were laughing at the Lingaard signings, and two fairly unknown Czech dudes have become top players) and aside that has been utter shit since he left Everton. (and he was not much more than a steady eddie doing as expected) Failed horribly at Utd (don't give me the BS following Fergie rubbish, he had top players and huge budget and he got them 7th, that is crap and a good manager would have done way better) Failed horribly at Real Sociedad Failed horribly at Sunderland Just barely squeaked by in his first season at West Ham, hence why they got rid of him. Was still pretty woeful when they brought him back, winning just 5 out of 19 games, 3 of which were against Watford, Bournemouth and Norwich, all 3 relegated teams. His win rate before this fluke season since he left Utd, is 25%....... He's shit and he'll be sacked next season once their fluke season wears off and they have to deal with Europa league games. No one think Ranieri is a good manager because he won the league with Leicester and he showed it the following season and with Fulham that he was not very good. Moyes has been awful for about 8 of the 9 last seasons. Edited 31 May, 2021 by tajjuk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintBobby Posted 31 May, 2021 Share Posted 31 May, 2021 I think the key question is whether Ralph has learnt anything and can adapt. If we go into next season, having sold a couple of top players and not really replaced them, with a “one more heave” strategy, we won’t do well. But can Ralph adapt? Obviously any signings will matter, but also whether he can change, adapt or improve the way we play. Jury out on that, obviously! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 1 June, 2021 Share Posted 1 June, 2021 These clubs with “shit” managers like Moyes & Bruce, I doubt their supporters would want Ralph managing their club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwsaint Posted 1 June, 2021 Share Posted 1 June, 2021 Moyes nearly came to Saints in the early 2000's from Preston. Sticking point was that he wanted to bring his own backroom staff, Rupert Lowe wanted to keep the existing staff. He ended up having a good stint at Everton. I seem to remember RLs decision to promote from within working out really well in 2004/2005. Next season won't be pretty. There is a big gulf between the top half and the bottom half. We are firmly in the bottom half. It all depends on how the transfer window goes in my view. Hang on to Ings, and bring in a couple of reinforcements, then we may well be just about OK. Poor window, lose Ings, and we are in trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 1 June, 2021 Share Posted 1 June, 2021 18 hours ago, SKD said: It means if we make another window or 2 of signing players with the ability of Djenepo and adams, whilst losing those with the ability of ings we won’t stay in the league. Obviously a Championship striker won’t keep us up will he no shit Sherlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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