SaintBobby Posted 23 May, 2021 Share Posted 23 May, 2021 Have West Ham definitely qualified for Europe? If Saints, Spurs and Everton all win, doesn’t that leave them 8th? Is that sufficient? I’m losing track of the qualification rules - especially with this third new Euro competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yozzman Posted 23 May, 2021 Share Posted 23 May, 2021 7 minutes ago, SaintBobby said: Have West Ham definitely qualified for Europe? If Saints, Spurs and Everton all win, doesn’t that leave them 8th? Is that sufficient? I’m losing track of the qualification rules - especially with this third new Euro competition. I don't think so. 7th gets you into the Europa Conference League, whatever that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nta786 Posted 23 May, 2021 Share Posted 23 May, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, SaintBobby said: Have West Ham definitely qualified for Europe? If Saints, Spurs and Everton all win, doesn’t that leave them 8th? Is that sufficient? I’m losing track of the qualification rules - especially with this third new Euro competition. I think for them to finish 8th, there needs to be a 8 goal swing for Everton to overtake them. Spurs play Leicester away, and Everton play City away. Unlikely they’ll both win and I think WHU will do the job against us anyway. They’ll want Europa League (6th place) over the Conference League (7th place), and for that they only need a point. Edited 23 May, 2021 by nta786 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintBobby Posted 23 May, 2021 Share Posted 23 May, 2021 11 minutes ago, nta786 said: I think for them to finish 8th, there needs to be a 8 goal swing for Everton to overtake them. Spurs play Leicester away, and Everton play City away. Unlikely they’ll both win and I think WHU will do the job against us anyway. They’ll want Europa League (6th place) over the Conference League (7th place), and for that they only need a point. Looks to me that you might be able to imagine both sides settling for a draw. That’s enough for West Ham - a win doesn’t push them any higher - and may well be enough for us to maximise our league position, depending on scores elsewhere. Probably only impacts the latter stages of the match and only then marginally, but maybe makes the 3/1 on the draw a bit tempting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toussaint Posted 23 May, 2021 Share Posted 23 May, 2021 Only a few hours to go and this season, which has been horrible for a number of reasons, will be over. Then we can get irrationally optimistic and excited about next season, I know I will, because I always have done. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 23 May, 2021 Share Posted 23 May, 2021 Usually our bogey team and I’d expect a 2-0 or so loss. This is a nothing game really, so could go either way. If WH don’t press us I can see a good game and neck to win. We don’t do draws...so 2-1 loss.😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austsaint Posted 23 May, 2021 Share Posted 23 May, 2021 18 minutes ago, Toussaint said: Only a few hours to go and this season, which has been horrible for a number of reasons, will be over. Then we can get irrationally optimistic and excited about next season, I know I will, because I always have done. Good lad; you're not alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 23 May, 2021 Share Posted 23 May, 2021 They will be too much for us they are a better side than Leeds with good firepower & grit in defence (things we lack), let's just put a decent performance and effort rate in, this will be a good indicator of what we can expect next season against strengthened sides. A battling 2-1 loss would be decent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totton Saint Posted 23 May, 2021 Share Posted 23 May, 2021 On 21/05/2021 at 11:27, VectisSaint said: Are you sure you mean Brian Miller? I thought he only ever played for BURNLEY (apologies if I'm wrong) . I think maybe you are thinking of Brian O'Neil. Jimmy Case was a pussy compared to O'Neil, but I always thought John McGrath was the real, original hardman. Terry Curran was also a bit of a nutcase, in the nicest possible sense. Most of them wouldn't last 2 minutes in today's PL. Thanks - I did mean Brian O'Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totton Saint Posted 23 May, 2021 Share Posted 23 May, 2021 On 18/05/2021 at 22:12, danjosaint said: Just want the season to end, had a f*****g gut full of these spineless wet fannies, Ralph needs to reinvigour himself and after 10 games nothings changed then he needs to go You can hardly call yourself a supporter so why are you on this forum? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 23 May, 2021 Share Posted 23 May, 2021 1 hour ago, SaintBobby said: Have West Ham definitely qualified for Europe? If Saints, Spurs and Everton all win, doesn’t that leave them 8th? Is that sufficient? I’m losing track of the qualification rules - especially with this third new Euro competition. The Sunday Times says that they need a point for Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Billy Posted 23 May, 2021 Share Posted 23 May, 2021 49 minutes ago, Totton Saint said: You can hardly call yourself a supporter so why are you on this forum? Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloggy saint Posted 23 May, 2021 Share Posted 23 May, 2021 3 hours ago, Jeremy said: Who knows where the team will be last game next season. Nobody. Nobody knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igsey Posted 23 May, 2021 Share Posted 23 May, 2021 Is Adams injured or just "unavailable" because we're worried that prick Dawson is going to kick him in the face again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapel End Posted 23 May, 2021 Share Posted 23 May, 2021 1 hour ago, igsey said: Is Adams injured or just "unavailable" because we're worried that prick Dawson is going to kick him in the face again? Injured Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Saint Posted 23 May, 2021 Share Posted 23 May, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, igsey said: Is Adams injured or just "unavailable" because we're worried that prick Dawson is going to kick him in the face again? think I read groin or thigh strain somewhere?? Edited 23 May, 2021 by Viking Saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chocolate Box Posted 23 May, 2021 Share Posted 23 May, 2021 16 minutes ago, Viking Saint said: think I read groin or thigh strain somewhere?? In his leg? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor Posted 23 May, 2021 Share Posted 23 May, 2021 On 21/05/2021 at 11:27, VectisSaint said: Are you sure you mean Brian Miller? I thought he only ever played for BURNLEY (apologies if I'm wrong) . I think maybe you are thinking of Brian O'Neil. Jimmy Case was a pussy compared to O'Neil, but I always thought John McGrath was the real, original hardman. Terry Curran was also a bit of a nutcase, in the nicest possible sense. Most of them wouldn't last 2 minutes in today's PL. Curran - not quite the 'nicest' possible - when my 10 yr old son approached him politely in the town centre he told my son to "fuck off". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 23 May, 2021 Share Posted 23 May, 2021 5 hours ago, Toussaint said: Only a few hours to go and this season, which has been horrible for a number of reasons, will be over. Then we can get irrationally optimistic and excited about next season, I know I will, because I always have done. The push for champions league next season begins as soon as the final whistle goes! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obelisk Posted 23 May, 2021 Share Posted 23 May, 2021 Redmond 🥴. Why? Hopefully I'll be proved wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nta786 Posted 23 May, 2021 Share Posted 23 May, 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 23 May, 2021 Share Posted 23 May, 2021 Just now, obelisk said: Redmond 🥴. Why? Hopefully I'll be proved wrong. Minamino and McCarthy as well. Why on earth does Ralph call Tella our best talent available and then bench him? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapel End Posted 23 May, 2021 Share Posted 23 May, 2021 Just now, nta786 said: Let the moaning begin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris cooper Posted 23 May, 2021 Share Posted 23 May, 2021 Redmond again ffs 🤦♂️..no tella .. nice comfortable home win .. red carpet for them ! Nice 👍🏻 one Ralph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 23 May, 2021 Share Posted 23 May, 2021 1 minute ago, obelisk said: Redmond 🥴. Why? Hopefully I'll be proved wrong. I fuckin give up with trying to work out why he continues to pick him and it looks once again like he’s gonna partner Ings up front. No wonder Danny wants to go 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nta786 Posted 23 May, 2021 Share Posted 23 May, 2021 (edited) 1) Why hasn't Forster started? [I thought Ralph said the policy would be Forster 2 games, Macca 2 games - Macca had a howler and Fraser saved a pen last time out...] 2) Did Stephens deserve to be dropped? 3) I'd have liked Tella over Minamino personally 4) Good to see Romeu back on bench My observations - if we win then I take it all back 😁 Edited 23 May, 2021 by nta786 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy the Kidd Posted 23 May, 2021 Share Posted 23 May, 2021 Just now, Chris cooper said: Redmond again ffs 🤦♂️..no tella .. nice comfortable home win .. red carpet for them ! Nice 👍🏻 one Ralph Perhaps you're correct,but I think seeing how it pans out first makes it more exciting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 23 May, 2021 Share Posted 23 May, 2021 No Forster either……ffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Albert Posted 23 May, 2021 Share Posted 23 May, 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapel End Posted 23 May, 2021 Share Posted 23 May, 2021 Redmond, Djneppo,Minamino and Walcott are much the same so either makes little difference 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sydney_saint Posted 23 May, 2021 Share Posted 23 May, 2021 What a waste of a dead rubber (for us). Redmond and minamino. Just such a waste. What are we going to learn here? What pisses me off is that Djenepo played one of his best games for us in the 1-1 draw against Chelsea. He put his body on the line, got constantly kicked and kept getting back up and throwing himself into tackles and was widely considered man of the match. Yet he has barely played since. Where's the incentive? Yet Redmond gets to put mediocre to terrible performances and gets played week in week out just about. Not to mention Tella who needs minutes and experiences, and has got himself involved in matches and playing well. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 23 May, 2021 Share Posted 23 May, 2021 Cunning plan by Ralph. He figures WHU will be laughing so much at our lop sided unbalanced team that we’ll waltz past them, and then blaze the ball into row Z... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefizzy14 Posted 23 May, 2021 Share Posted 23 May, 2021 (edited) Both Fraser and Jack should be starting. I'm baffled by those two decisions. Tella unlucky not to be starting too. Pleased to see Romeu back on the bench, hoping he gets some minutes in the second half Edited 23 May, 2021 by davefizzy14 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 23 May, 2021 Share Posted 23 May, 2021 We’re gonna get fucking dicked 4-0! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 23 May, 2021 Share Posted 23 May, 2021 Ralph obviously hoping a heavy defeat will come as a reminder to the board to get their cheque book out this summer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamesaint Posted 23 May, 2021 Share Posted 23 May, 2021 I can only think that Ralph believes that Jack would not be able to cope with West Ham's more physical style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macca155 Posted 23 May, 2021 Share Posted 23 May, 2021 Uninspiring team again. I don't rate McCarthy, prefer Forster, but there isn't that much between them, so I can live with that decision. Equally Bendarek has the edge over Stephens, although harsh on Jack to be dropped. Redmond up front just doesn't work for me. He is at his best when playing deeper, as he does track back. Up front he hasn't made an impact. Pointless selection, Tella has more promise and Obafemi needs a start. Very disappointed to see Minimano. Just not good enough imo. Big mistake if Saints waste precious transfer money on him. So that's Redmond to play a blinder and a hatrick from Minimano 😀 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WALK DMC Posted 23 May, 2021 Share Posted 23 May, 2021 Really surprised by the line-up. There are a number of very odd selections which are hard to explain. Could we have decided to strengthen our midfield by playing a proper 3-5-2 ? Redmond LWB and the middle three of JWP, Armstrong & Diallo. This would leave Minamino and Ings up front. I think that I am just clutching at straws here ...... The Minamino situation is beyond weird; if Harry Rednapp were still Manager I know what people would bee insinuating about his continued appearances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiberalCommunist Posted 23 May, 2021 Share Posted 23 May, 2021 Just finished work. Just seen the team sheet. Enthusiasm fading. VAR will save us, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 23 May, 2021 Share Posted 23 May, 2021 The only reason I can see for that starting eleven is Ralph needs an excuse to put some of them onto the transfer list. I get Bednarek being included....Sky report he has the most interceptions for a defender (by some way), so in theory we defend better with him in the team and one of Ralph’s targets is fewer away goals. But Redmond after some shocking performances? Why Minamino over our own boy Tella...unless we’re serious about taking him from Pool and Ralph has told him to play for a contract? The team sheet has done nothing to convince me that I’ve got the result wrong at either 2-1 or even 3-1. But who knows...perhaps Ralph’s tactics will finally come good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapel End Posted 23 May, 2021 Share Posted 23 May, 2021 9 minutes ago, JRM said: Ralph obviously hoping a heavy defeat will come as a reminder to the board to get their cheque book out this summer. 🙄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapel End Posted 23 May, 2021 Share Posted 23 May, 2021 Bednarek, Redmond, Minamino all playing to share the abuse 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 23 May, 2021 Share Posted 23 May, 2021 I can only assume that all the moaning about Minamino don't understand our new tactics. We're playing a different style and the attacking width down the right comes from KWP, not a winger or 10. We've also had Armstrong driving foreward from the middle. Minamino allows KWP and Armstrong to do that by staying deep and/or pulling inside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 23 May, 2021 Share Posted 23 May, 2021 1 minute ago, Chapel End said: Bednarek, Redmond, Minamino all playing to share the abuse Nice touch by Ralph. Could've found a role for Stephens to give the pelters maximum options though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igsey Posted 23 May, 2021 Share Posted 23 May, 2021 5 minutes ago, egg said: I can only assume that all the moaning about Minamino don't understand our new tactics. We're playing a different style and the attacking width down the right comes from KWP, not a winger or 10. We've also had Armstrong driving foreward from the middle. Minamino allows KWP and Armstrong to do that by staying deep and/or pulling inside. Don't need to understand tactics to see that him misplacing every other pass or getting tackled every 2 seconds is the reason for the moaning. That and he's not even our player, if we're going to persist with mediocrity we may as well put one of our own mediocre players on the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 23 May, 2021 Share Posted 23 May, 2021 21 minutes ago, OttawaSaint said: We’re gonna get fucking dicked 4-0! If you're going for the most negative poster prize, you're on track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 23 May, 2021 Share Posted 23 May, 2021 Just now, igsey said: Don't need to understand tactics to see that him misplacing every other pass or getting tackled every 2 seconds is the reason for the moaning. That and he's not even our player, if we're going to persist with mediocrity we may as well put one of our own mediocre players on the pitch. Who else do you say should play that role? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 23 May, 2021 Share Posted 23 May, 2021 Shit side but maybe will surprise me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manzo Posted 23 May, 2021 Share Posted 23 May, 2021 Anyone else trying to watch the match on Now TV, only to find that they've moved it to Sky One and the Sports subscription doesn't cover that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint J 77 Posted 23 May, 2021 Share Posted 23 May, 2021 It’s not a question of if we will lose, but rather a question of how many will we lose by? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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