Saints 0-2 Leeds - Match Thread

[CB Fry]

Well, at least we can take comfort from a decent half of football during the post-mortem of the inevitable defeat.

[qwertyell]

Lot of huff and puff but shite in the final third. Found ourselves with someone running at the heart of their defence several times but lacked the composure and quality to play the right pass.

Probably shot our bolt now.

Maybe put Djenepo and Walcott on in the second half...

What have we done to deserve another game of Efan Ekoku and his weird grievance against all things Saints related on commentary?

[Sheaf Saint]

1 minute ago, qwertyell said:

Lot of huff and puff but shite in the final third. Found ourselves with someone running at the heart of their defence several times but lacked the composure and quality to play the right pass.

Probably shot our bolt now.

Maybe put Djenepo and Walcott on in the second half...

What have we done to deserve another game of Efan Ekoku and his weird grievance against all things Saints related on commentary?

Erm, they are both on already. 

[stknowle]

Played well in that first half. The better side without ever really looking that dangerous. We've been here before several times this season.......................

[trousers]

1 minute ago, Sheaf Saint said:

Erm, they are both on already. 

Sarcasm detector on the blink...?

[Piran]

2 minutes ago, qwertyell said:

Lot of huff and puff but shite in the final third. Found ourselves with someone running at the heart of their defence several times but lacked the composure and quality to play the right pass.

Probably shot our bolt now.

Maybe put Djenepo and Walcott on in the second half...

What have we done to deserve another game of Efan Ekoku and his weird grievance against all things Saints related on commentary?

Well, I find him a good commentator, and don't hear any particular bias.

[OttawaSaint]

Ings on!

Adams makes way...

Edited 18 May, 2021 by OttawaSaint

[OttawaSaint]

effort by JWP!

[trousers]

JWP off the bar!

[egg]

7 minutes ago, Piran said:

Well, I find him a good commentator, and don't hear any particular bias.

Yep, he's decent. 

[HarvSFC]

JWP on a mission. Hit the bar, almost got his head taken off, won the ball back and then won a foul all in quick succession.

[trousers]

Just now, HarvSFC said:

JWP on a mission. Hit the bar, almost got his head taken off, won the ball back and then won a foul all in quick succession.

Must be a shoe-in for the England Euro squad?

[OttawaSaint]

Leeds have woken up then!

[Mr X]

This had one nil Leeds written all over it 

[trousers]

Just now, Mr X said:

This had one nil Leeds written all over it 

Nah... 0-0 me ol' mucker

[stknowle]

Just now, Mr X said:

This had one nil Leeds written all over it 

Until when?

[OttawaSaint]

Damn, at the risk of waking up Lord Pony, a top 6 team would have got a penalty there.

[Mr X]

1 minute ago, stknowle said:

Until when?

Haha has

[SKD]

6 minutes ago, egg said:

Yep, he's decent. 

Apart from when he was trying to say JWP deserves a red for absolutely nothing other than getting his arm across the Leeds player. 

[OttawaSaint]

Djenebbie does Dallas...

Edited 18 May, 2021 by OttawaSaint

[stknowle]

Why didn't he go over? Nice one Bamford.

[OttawaSaint]

Bloody hell. Bamford channeling his inner Che. Looked like McC had fucked up!

[Saint_clark]

That's why I prefer Forster. McCarthy is dodgy as fuck.

[SKD]

Just now, stknowle said:

Why didn't he go over? Nice one Bamford.

Shouldn’t need to. Stone wall penalty. Terrible of VAR to ignore it. 

[Mr X]

Jesus saints

[trousers]

Surely that's a foul on Bamford regardless of whether he goes down or not, ergo should've been a penalty?

[Saint_clark]

Just now, SKD said:

Shouldn’t need to. Stone wall penalty. Terrible of VAR to ignore it. 

Why? You can't have the advantage and the chance to score and then still want the penalty when you don't.

[Lord Duckhunter]

You’ve just seen exactly why players dive. 

[stknowle]

Just now, SKD said:

Shouldn’t need to. Stone wall penalty. Terrible of VAR to ignore it. 

Kind of agree but you're into a whole new labyrinth of clear and obvious interpretations if they start giving penalties that could/should have resulted in the attacker going to ground when they didn't. 

[SKD]

1 minute ago, Saint_clark said:

Why? You can't have the advantage and the chance to score and then still want the penalty when you don't.

Hardly an advantage. By the time he got to the ball the defender had recovered and he was practically on the touch line. 
 

Had he gone down, that’s a pen. Why shouldn’t it be when he stays on his feet? 
 

Stonewall. 

[SKD]

1 minute ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

You’ve just seen exactly why players dive. 

Yep. PGMOL are Encouraging players to dive, you can’t complain when they do. 

[Saint_clark]

Just now, SKD said:

Hardly an advantage. By the time he got to the ball the defender had recovered and he was practically on the touch line. 
 

Had he gone down, that’s a pen. Why shouldn’t it be when he stays on his feet? 
 

Stonewall. 

If he hasn't got to the ball after the contact then a penalty should be given, but what if he'd blown the whistle for a penalty as bamford slotted it into the net? 

[SKD]

1 minute ago, stknowle said:

Kind of agree but you're into a whole new labyrinth of clear and obvious interpretations if they start giving penalties that could/should have resulted in the attacker going to ground when they didn't. 

But you don’t need to go to ground for it to be a foul by the letter of the law. That’s just the interpretation the incompetent refs have. 

[SKD]

Just now, Saint_clark said:

If he hasn't got to the ball after the contact then a penalty should be given, but what if he'd blown the whistle for a penalty as bamford slotted it into the net? 

But he didn’t and regardless, VAR should have pulled it back as it was an obvious foul. 

[ChrisPY]

2 minutes ago, SKD said:

Shouldn’t need to. Stone wall penalty. Terrible of VAR to ignore it. 

Would have been the perfect opportunity to  try and stop players going down easily but instead the refs are effectively encouraging it and making their job harder. 
Said it before but don’t see why the Premier League that wants the best players in the world doesn’t go and get the best refs from other countries as well.

[SKD]

1 minute ago, ChrisPY said:

Would have been the perfect opportunity to  try and stop players going down easily but instead the refs are effectively encouraging it and making their job harder. 
Said it before but don’t see why the Premier League that wants the best players in the world doesn’t go and get the best refs from other countries as well.

Agree. Mike Riley, is absolutely useless as the head of PGMOL. 

[Lord Duckhunter]

 

Just now, Saint_clark said:

If he hasn't got to the ball after the contact then a penalty should be given, but what if he'd blown the whistle for a penalty as bamford slotted it into the net? 

Have you heard of the advantage rule? The referee can wait and pull play back. It happens nearly every week. I’m surprised you didn’t know that. 

[Saint_clark]

1 minute ago, SKD said:

But he didn’t and regardless, VAR should have pulled it back as it was an obvious foul. 

So players should be given the advantage to see if they score and then if they don't still given the penalty anyway? 

[trousers]

5 minutes ago, Saint_clark said:

Why? You can't have the advantage and the chance to score and then still want the penalty when you don't.

I've seen refs play advantage before for fouls outside the box and then pull things back for the freekick when the advantage didn't play out. Don't see why that can't also happen for penalties

[Saint_clark]

Just now, Lord Duckhunter said:

 

Have you heard of the advantage rule? The referee can wait and pull play back. It happens nearly every week. I’m surprised you didn’t know that. 

Of course I know about that, and in this situation if he hadn't got to the ball after the contact then it should be pulled back. But he still got the ball after the contact and still did nothing with it.

[Lord Duckhunter]

Just now, Saint_clark said:

So players should be given the advantage to see if they score and then if they don't still given the penalty anyway? 

Err yes. It happens regularly 

[Chewy]

Can we clone Armstrong? Need him centre mid and number 10

[Sheaf Saint]

So if that's a yellow card for Strijuk, how on earth did Harrison not get one for his tackle on Djenepo? 

[trousers]

1 minute ago, Saint_clark said:

So players should be given the advantage to see if they score and then if they don't still given the penalty anyway? 

Yes. It happens often for free kicks

[OttawaSaint]

Playing some delightful stuff but that final shot/ball is lacking. Come on Saints, bury one!

[SKD]

3 minutes ago, Saint_clark said:

So players should be given the advantage to see if they score and then if they don't still given the penalty anyway? 

But there wasn’t an advantage, was there. By the time he got the ball, the chance to slot it in had gone. 
 

If that had happened the other end, you’d be outraged. 

Edited 18 May, 2021 by SKD

[stknowle]

Fuck me this is playing out like so many games this season. Completely 2nd best in the 2nd half after being the better side in the 1st. Would happily take a point.

[Mr X]

We are going to pay the price for missed opportunities 

[Saint_clark]

Just now, SKD said:

But there wasn’t an advantage, was there. By the time he got the ball, the chance had gone. 
 

If that had happened the other end, you’d be outraged. 

No I wouldn't. But you know what, sure, it should have been a penalty and I'm sure we can all agree that's yet more evidence that Forster should be number 1 instead of this ridiculous rotation policy.

[Saints foreva]

Very poor performance from us this half. We need to step it up a few levels.