CB Fry Posted 11 May, 2021 Share Posted 11 May, 2021 Well, he ain't going to make it at Liverpool. But: Depending on what kind of deal we can do I wouldn't be completely against him staying. He wasn't great today, in fact pretty ropey at times, but I think he has more to offer. I like his energy levels which is what Ralph is looking for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 11 May, 2021 Share Posted 11 May, 2021 He's got good energy, buzzes around the pitch. But ultimately he's too weak and cannot impact at this level. He's 26/27 now I think, he's not 'one for the future' - this is him. I don't know what Liverpool are holding out for either, he needs to go to a league more suited to his obvious technical talents. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee On Solent Saint Posted 11 May, 2021 Share Posted 11 May, 2021 Another Boufal for me. Few good moments, too lightweight and flatters to deceive. Such a shame as I thought he would really flourish here. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 11 May, 2021 Share Posted 11 May, 2021 No. Bye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 11 May, 2021 Share Posted 11 May, 2021 Poor player. No future here IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 12 May, 2021 Share Posted 12 May, 2021 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd Posted 18 May, 2021 Share Posted 18 May, 2021 Get rid. We've got Tella, who looks a far better player. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Posted 19 May, 2021 Share Posted 19 May, 2021 Is there even an option for him to sign permanently? From everything I've seen, there was never an option or obligation to buy. Bit of a moot discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Louis Posted 19 May, 2021 Share Posted 19 May, 2021 I don't believe there was, but I would still hazard a guess that 'if' we wanted to keep him, then Liverpool wouldn't take too much persuading. Personally I think we should let him go as we have better options, and they would probably want a decent fee for him and his wages are probably (Liverpool) high. Our tight budget could be spent better elsewhere IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 19 May, 2021 Share Posted 19 May, 2021 He's too lightweight for us I think, works hard, makes good runs but he always gets shoved off the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 19 May, 2021 Share Posted 19 May, 2021 Did nothing at all last night. Get rid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fat Controller Posted 19 May, 2021 Share Posted 19 May, 2021 The big problem we have at Saints is we keep signing 8 stone 5’10 players. they may be good players but they are too easily beaten Minamino, Djenepo, even Diallo all good players but physically weak when you look at ex players that beefed themselves up and now compete stronger Gareth Bale, Luke Shaw, & Michail Antonio just to name a few 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 23 May, 2021 Share Posted 23 May, 2021 He was maybe a little better today, but he still looks way too lightweight for me. He should have scored at 0-0 too, those are the chances players of his supposed calibre need to put away. Still not a fan really, but he's probably as good as we can get in that position - especially if Liverpool can help us financially on another loan deal. Could be a cheap fix for attacking depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefizzy14 Posted 23 May, 2021 Share Posted 23 May, 2021 Definitely would take Minamino on another loan deal for next season. Scored a couple of cracking goals and I thought he played well today. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry_SFC Posted 23 May, 2021 Share Posted 23 May, 2021 I actually thought he had a good game today, barring that 1 on 1 miss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 23 May, 2021 Share Posted 23 May, 2021 Another piss poor performance from him today. Worries me if we’re wanting to get him back in the squad next season. Just does not affect the game. Armstrong Tella and Walcott plus 2 other new signings would be nice…such a poor position for us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted 23 May, 2021 Share Posted 23 May, 2021 Think he just needs to be given a run of 6 matches or so..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 23 May, 2021 Share Posted 23 May, 2021 1 minute ago, Suhari said: Think he just needs to be given a run of 6 matches or so..... I really hope not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 23 May, 2021 Share Posted 23 May, 2021 My thing with Minamino was always to give him the benefit of the doubt. - He wasn't match fit. - Wasn't confident. - Joined us when we were pretty terrible. A couple of lovely goals showed a talent, but haven't seen much else from him. Maybe a pre-season behind him might help, but I'm not sure. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 24 May, 2021 Share Posted 24 May, 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igsey Posted 24 May, 2021 Share Posted 24 May, 2021 Thought he was poor again yesterday, good movement for his chance but fucked it up, did nothing else of note. He seems to have a very good talent for being as far away as possible from the ball when we start an attack. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Corbyn Posted 24 May, 2021 Share Posted 24 May, 2021 Wouldn't really understand us signing him, he's clearly an alright player (technically very good, otherwise poor) but he's not better than we already have - unless we have a plan to offload a couple of the other attacking midfielders we have. Either way, unless Liverpool are planning on selling on the cheap, or it's a cheap loan, I'd hope we could do better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 24 May, 2021 Share Posted 24 May, 2021 We need to start bringing in players who will improve the side, not players who are just as shit as the others. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwbu Posted 24 May, 2021 Share Posted 24 May, 2021 I’d take him again on loan, i’d hope we aren’t looking to spend any money on him 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 24 May, 2021 Share Posted 24 May, 2021 For what though? He’s not better than Tella, Redmond, Djenepo, Armstrong and maybe Walcott (who we aren’t getting rid of this summer) Given Armstrong is much more likely to play next season as a “10” rather than a third of it as a “6”, he’ll take one of those starting spots. You then have the rest fighting for the other “10” spot on the left. The only reason I’d bring him back in on loan, is if it was really cheap, and we were selling Redmond and Djenepo and investing in a properly decent left sided player. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkeith Posted 24 May, 2021 Share Posted 24 May, 2021 2 hours ago, igsey said: Thought he was poor again yesterday, good movement for his chance but fucked it up, did nothing else of note. He seems to have a very good talent for being as far away as possible from the ball when we start an attack. He fucked up a good breakaway before that when he lost control of the ball when we had men over. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurzel Posted 24 May, 2021 Share Posted 24 May, 2021 8 minutes ago, redkeith said: He fucked up a good breakaway before that when he lost control of the ball when we had men over. Thought that one was inexcusable. He had so many options available and 2 or 3 occasions when he could make the pass and he appeared to simply not be able to make a decision , and just ran into trouble. I get a feeling Klopp's insistence that he was in his plans for next season was based on the fear they weren't going to qualify for the UCL and wouldn't be able to afford to replace him. Now they have I reckon they'll be happy to get shot of him, but from what I've seen so far one of the 3 promoted sides seems more his level. Wouldn't be happy keeping him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 24 May, 2021 Share Posted 24 May, 2021 1 hour ago, Saint Garrett said: For what though? He’s not better than Tella, Redmond, Djenepo, Armstrong and maybe Walcott (who we aren’t getting rid of this summer) Given Armstrong is much more likely to play next season as a “10” rather than a third of it as a “6”, he’ll take one of those starting spots. You then have the rest fighting for the other “10” spot on the left. The only reason I’d bring him back in on loan, is if it was really cheap, and we were selling Redmond and Djenepo and investing in a properly decent left sided player. Don't disagree. Maybe Ralph doesn't think we can improve on the players with the budget we have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 24 May, 2021 Share Posted 24 May, 2021 Oh my, pmsl https://www.anfieldcentral.co.uk/posts/adrian-has-been-slammed-for-his-instagram-mishap/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thereisonlyonemickychannon Posted 24 May, 2021 Share Posted 24 May, 2021 Get rid. Light weight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolan Posted 25 May, 2021 Share Posted 25 May, 2021 (edited) If he came for £7.25m or less, buy him If it was more than that, don't. Edited 25 May, 2021 by Nolan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 25 May, 2021 Share Posted 25 May, 2021 2 minutes ago, Nolan said: If he came for £7.25m or less, buy him If it was more than that, don't. I think the option we're exploring is a loan for another season, which says to me we're even more skint than we thought we were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustinSFC Posted 25 May, 2021 Share Posted 25 May, 2021 23 hours ago, saintwbu said: I’d take him again on loan, i’d hope we aren’t looking to spend any money on him That's about where I'm at with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustinSFC Posted 25 May, 2021 Share Posted 25 May, 2021 44 minutes ago, Saint_clark said: I think the option we're exploring is a loan for another season, which says to me we're even more skint than we thought we were. Not necessarily. It just means we see him as a punt. He came here when we were on the slide. It means we're willing to take a punt on a clean season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 26 May, 2021 Share Posted 26 May, 2021 On 24/05/2021 at 20:50, Master Bates said: Oh my, pmsl https://www.anfieldcentral.co.uk/posts/adrian-has-been-slammed-for-his-instagram-mishap/ He needs a new PA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 30 May, 2021 Share Posted 30 May, 2021 On 25/05/2021 at 10:13, Saint_clark said: I think the option we're exploring is a loan for another season, which says to me we're even more skint than we thought we were. The £70m loan didn't give it away? I like the idea of a loan signing. The fella has talent, but we need to see it displayed more often in games and for him to dictate games before we give him a long term deal. Perhaps he's had enough chances, but having not seen him live, I'm gonna sit on the fence. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee On Solent Saint Posted 30 May, 2021 Share Posted 30 May, 2021 3 hours ago, Chez said: The £70m loan didn't give it away? I like the idea of a loan signing. The fella has talent, but we need to see it displayed more often in games and for him to dictate games before we give him a long term deal. Perhaps he's had enough chances, but having not seen him live, I'm gonna sit on the fence. This is how I see. it Not fussed either way. Although I wouldn't want us to waste away our two domestic loan signings. Think they will be really important to us. Absolutely hope we do our homework to explore the loan market with the big six sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 30 May, 2021 Share Posted 30 May, 2021 Looks like Minamino might be up for sale after all, as part of an Anfield clear out, according to this (it is the Sun, I accept...): https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/15097753/liverpool-transfer-cull-wijnaldum-origi-shaqiri/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nordic Saint Posted 31 May, 2021 Share Posted 31 May, 2021 9 hours ago, Ivan Katalinic's 'tache said: Looks like Minamino might be up for sale after all, as part of an Anfield clear out, according to this (it is the Sun, I accept...): https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/15097753/liverpool-transfer-cull-wijnaldum-origi-shaqiri/ We wouldn't be able to afford a transfer fee for him even if we wanted him and I'm not sure that we do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiberalCommunist Posted 31 May, 2021 Share Posted 31 May, 2021 They rate him higher than we do. We both move on....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFC Forever Posted 31 May, 2021 Share Posted 31 May, 2021 too lightweight for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobM Posted 31 May, 2021 Share Posted 31 May, 2021 I’d keep if the price was right and his motivation to play for us and succeed was strong. But in reality, he hasn’t shown he’s capable of succeeding in the Prem, and coming from Liverpool elevates his price for no good reason, so I doubt he’ll join us. One thing worth saying is any move, however cheap, should come after we’ve put serious money into priority positions such as a striker and fullbacks. If there’s money left, sure, sign him up. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 31 May, 2021 Share Posted 31 May, 2021 21 hours ago, Ivan Katalinic's 'tache said: Looks like Minamino might be up for sale after all, as part of an Anfield clear out, according to this (it is the Sun, I accept...): https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/15097753/liverpool-transfer-cull-wijnaldum-origi-shaqiri/ Origi wouldn’t be a bad shout as an ings replacement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintBobby Posted 31 May, 2021 Share Posted 31 May, 2021 I can think of better things to spend the money on. Especially as money clearly is tight. On the basis of what we’ve seen, I wouldn’t take a punt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rooney Posted 1 June, 2021 Share Posted 1 June, 2021 we want some tough guys in. I do not think mini fits this bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Keef Posted 1 June, 2021 Share Posted 1 June, 2021 If he'd put that early chance away in the West Ham game, I bet the feeling on here (not everyone, but quite a few) would have been completely different.......but the fact is, he didn't put it away. When you look at Willock and Lingard, those loans were brilliant (Willock probably saved Newcastle from going down......haha especially as Fulham were on such a dynamic run.......not!..... and Lingard's contribution probably got WHU into Europe). Unfortunately Min has had nowhere near the impact of those two. I saw moments of promise, but for me, not enough. But then, if he'd been as brilliant as Willock and Lingard, Liverpool would have taken him back or raised his price beyond our means......so I guess it's a "no win" situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWar Posted 1 June, 2021 Share Posted 1 June, 2021 Going to be controversial potentially here but I wouldn't be adverse to bringing Taki on under £10m. He is crap at pressing, lightweight, lacks concentration, and makes dreadful decisions. He also sometimes struggles to make an impact. On the other hand his finishing and pace are both very impressive. I think Ralph could build something out of him, with time. He won't be a world beater but players very rarely are at that price and if we seal a deal for ~£7m for example I actually don't think it will be that much of a waste of money. Let the manager do magic with him like he has JWP and Armstrong before him and see how he does. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 1 June, 2021 Share Posted 1 June, 2021 2 hours ago, TWar said: Going to be controversial potentially here but I wouldn't be adverse to bringing Taki on under £10m. He is crap at pressing, lightweight, lacks concentration, and makes dreadful decisions. He also sometimes struggles to make an impact. On the other hand his finishing and pace are both very impressive. I think Ralph could build something out of him, with time. He won't be a world beater but players very rarely are at that price and if we seal a deal for ~£7m for example I actually don't think it will be that much of a waste of money. Let the manager do magic with him like he has JWP and Armstrong before him and see how he does. Not disagreeing, but no matter how low the price is for a player, its essential that they have the ability and/or potential to be a good player for us, otherwise they fill a shirt that could be filled by someone else. Low transfer fee mean less up front money, but wages and long term contracts mean it's no less risk. The same applies to free contracts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sambosa75 Posted 1 June, 2021 Share Posted 1 June, 2021 If he's available at £10m or below, I would take him. There is a player there. Lost his way as a bit part player at Liverpool but as a regular starter I'm confident you would see improvements over time and I'd have him in the team over Redmond any day. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustinSFC Posted 1 June, 2021 Share Posted 1 June, 2021 3 hours ago, TWar said: He is crap at pressing, lightweight, lacks concentration, and makes dreadful decisions. He also sometimes struggles to make an impact. Agree with most of your post but pressing is the one thing he does well imo. And it's the one thing that makes him worth a punt at those sort of price points. Just about. Anything over £10m though is probably going beyond punt territory and it depends who else we have on our radar, which I suspect is next to nobody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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