Climate Change

[buctootim]

14 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said:

You seem to have completely missed the point.

I asked if any (and if so how much) fossil fuel is used to CHARGE the battery not make them.

Unless you're claiming they never need to be charged?

Also, does the capacity reduce with age (I know the battery on my phone does), so whilst it may last 200k miles, does it need to be charged more often later on its life (and maybe use more fossil fuels that created the electricity to charge them)?

Ah fair enough, i read it as change. Still a flawed point though because 60% of UK electricity comes from renewables + nuclear and that figure is growing year on year by around 3%. That autocar link gives a battery decline rate of 73% of life left after 200k - which is way more than I thought it would be. 

That said i do think hydrogen will be the long term solution, not battery

Edited November 2 by buctootim

[sadoldgit]

On 02/11/2024 at 09:20, aintforever said:

It’s that way of thinking which results in the complete failure to deal with the problem. Every country on the planet can say the same thing and nothing gets done.

Indeed!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cdxvnk10xz2o.amp

[Weston Super Saint]

I was trying to think of a reason why the climate change targets are missed year in, year out.  I thought about going to the pub to ask some randoms what their thoughts were, but then I read this article :

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crmzvdn9e18o

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A senior official at COP29 climate change conference in Azerbaijan appears to have used his role to arrange a meeting to discuss potential fossil fuel deals, the BBC can report.

A secret recording shows the chief executive of Azerbaijan's COP29 team, Elnur Soltanov, discussing "investment opportunities" in the state oil and gas company with a man posing as a potential investor.

"We have a lot of gas fields that are to be developed," he says.

 

[Turkish]

6 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said:

I was trying to think of a reason why the climate change targets are missed year in, year out.  I thought about going to the pub to ask some randoms what their thoughts were, but then I read this article :

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crmzvdn9e18o

 

We could hit them if only people would pay more in taxes to help 

[egg]

On 02/11/2024 at 15:04, buctootim said:

Ah fair enough, i read it as change. Still a flawed point though because 60% of UK electricity comes from renewables + nuclear and that figure is growing year on year by around 3%. That autocar link gives a battery decline rate of 73% of life left after 200k - which is way more than I thought it would be. 

That said i do think hydrogen will be the long term solution, not battery

I think it should, but I'm not sure it will anytime soon. Ceres Power are a company big on this, and their performance (and the news around them) is a decent barometer imo on this. The slide in their share price, probably reflects the direction of travel for the foreseeable. Cheap at the moment btw.