Climate Change

[AlexLaw76]

1 hour ago, sadoldgit said:

I haven’t driven a car. What about you?

 

I separated cardboard from my plastic waste. 

The sacrifices we make to stop the earth from boiling, eh.

[aintforever]

13 minutes ago, Turkish said:

Making things up again. I didn't say he said that at all you lot all made out i said that.

Anyway, regardless of what you pretended i said, was it climate or local weather?

Here you go, mind the long words:

https://climatekids.nasa.gov/weather-climate/

[Turkish]

Just now, aintforever said:

Here you go, mind the long words:

https://climatekids.nasa.gov/weather-climate/

You could just answer the question rather than being a dick

[aintforever]

4 minutes ago, Turkish said:

You could just answer the question rather than being a dick

You could just Google it you thick twat. Here you go I did it for you…

A heatwave is an extended period of hot weather relative to the expected conditions of the area at that time of year. 

Weather is what conditions of the atmosphere are over a short period of time, and climate is how the atmosphere "behaves" over relatively long periods of time.

 

Edited 1 August, 2023 by aintforever

[Sheaf Saint]

1 minute ago, aintforever said:

You could just Google it you thick twat. Here you go I did it for you…

A heatwave is an extended period of hot weather relative to the expected conditions of the area at that time of year. 

Weather is what conditions of the atmosphere are over a short period of time, and climate is how the atmosphere "behaves" over relatively long periods of time.

 

The best analogy I heard about this is that climate modelling and prediction is like calculating how long it will take to boil a pan of water if you understand all the parameters like volume, energy input, and evaporative loss etc. Whereas local weather forecasting is like trying to predict where any individual bubble will rise in the pan.

[Turkish]

32 minutes ago, aintforever said:

You could just Google it you thick twat. Here you go I did it for you…

A heatwave is an extended period of hot weather relative to the expected conditions of the area at that time of year. 

Weather is what conditions of the atmosphere are over a short period of time, and climate is how the atmosphere "behaves" over relatively long periods of time.

 

 

On 17/07/2023 at 11:18, Turkish said:

looks like a lot of europe is crazy hot right now, is this evidence of climate change or is it just weather? 

 So the question i asked two weeks ago the answer was "weather" then. All the screaming, name calling, jumping up and down, making things up and sneering comments were completely unnessasary. 

Edited 1 August, 2023 by Turkish

[Whitey Grandad]

2 hours ago, Sheaf Saint said:

The milestones passed and average temperature records that have been broken this summer are alarming, because they haven't just been breached, they've been smashed. And the strongest effects of El Nino are still yet to come, meaning 2024 is only likely to continue that trend.

Dismissing global issues because they aren't apparent on your own doorstep is idiotic in the extreme. July might have been mild and wet in the UK, but globally the story is very different:

 

Wow! From 1940!

Any idea why such a late date was chosen? I think we know the answer to that.

[Sheaf Saint]

18 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said:

Wow! From 1940!

Any idea why such a late date was chosen? I think we know the answer to that.

Usually, the simplest explanation is the correct one. 1940 is as far back as the ERA5 hourly reanalysis data goes.

https://cds.climate.copernicus.eu/cdsapp#!/dataset/reanalysis-era5-single-levels?tab=overview

[Lord Duckhunter]

This just about sums it fucking up. Hysterical reporting by activist media lapped up by “good” people….
 

2 weather forecasts, one from the early 90’s & one from the Woke era. It’s not informing the public of the weather, it’s campaigning…

 

 

[Dig Dig]

35 minutes ago, Turkish said:

 

 So the question i asked two weeks ago the answer was "weather" then. All the screaming, name calling, jumping up and down, making things up and sneering comments were completely unnessasary. 

It’s weather that will become more frequent, prolonged and extreme due to heat retention in the Earth’s atmosphere, thus climate change. 

[Sheaf Saint]

7 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

This just about sums it fucking up. Hysterical reporting by activist media lapped up by “good” people….
 

2 weather forecasts, one from the early 90’s & one from the Woke era. It’s not informing the public of the weather, it’s campaigning…

 

 

This image was doctored, and the post was designed to appeal to angry idiots who wouldn't bother to check the validity of it.

People like you.

 

 

[Turkish]

5 minutes ago, Dig Dig said:

It’s weather that will become more frequent, prolonged and extreme due to heat retention in the Earth’s atmosphere, thus climate change. 

Yeah that’s fine, no one was disputing climate change, in fact I even agreed with some of the graphs that the trend is showing this.
 

The question I asked was about if this heat wave was weather or not, Unfortunately rather than saying it was weather which they are now people started screaming about denying climate change, claiming I said the world can’t be warming up because a few people I know said it wasn’t that bad where they were on holiday and bizarre made up claims that I’d be sacked, which soggy laughed at, which is very weird as not only was it not true why would it be funny someone losing their job when we are in a cost of living crisis.

as usual the forum good guys showed their true colours when it counted 

[Turkish]

17 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

This just about sums it fucking up. Hysterical reporting by activist media lapped up by “good” people….
 

2 weather forecasts, one from the early 90’s & one from the Woke era. It’s not informing the public of the weather, it’s campaigning…

 

 

Severe weather warning in Southampton today which is a warning a chance of a moderate thunderstorm and moderate wind

Edited 1 August, 2023 by Turkish

[Whitey Grandad]

27 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said:

Usually, the simplest explanation is the correct one. 1940 is as far back as the ERA5 hourly reanalysis data goes.

https://cds.climate.copernicus.eu/cdsapp#!/dataset/reanalysis-era5-single-levels?tab=overview

Simple is the correct word. 
 

So these figures are historically meaningless.

[Dig Dig]

6 minutes ago, Turkish said:

Yeah that’s fine, no one was disputing climate change, in fact I even agreed with some of the graphs that the trend is showing this.
 

The question I asked was about if this heat wave was weather or not, Unfortunately rather than saying it was weather which they are now people started screaming about denying climate change, claiming I said the world can’t be warming up because a few people I know said it wasn’t that bad where they were on holiday and bizarre made up claims that I’d be sacked, which soggy laughed at, which is very weird as not only was it not true why would it be funny someone losing their job when we are in a cost of living crisis.

as usual the forum good guys showed their true colours when it counted 

I dunno mate, I didn’t read those posts from a couple of weeks back. Sorry Soggy got to you so badly. Keep up the good work. 

[buctootim]

51 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said:

Wow! From 1940!

Any idea why such a late date was chosen? I think we know the answer to that.

For an intelligent man you say some really dumb things on climate. Guess what? dust bowl conditions in the American mid west in the 1930s did not equate to high global temperatures, they were at or below average. It was the 1940s which were actually warmer than average so if someone wanted to cherry pick data to prove warming you wouldnt start then. I dont know how clear you need it. 

 

  

[Whitey Grandad]

17 minutes ago, Dig Dig said:

It’s weather that will become more frequent, prolonged and extreme due to heat retention in the Earth’s atmosphere, thus climate change. 

The climate has always changed and it always will. Otherwise Canada would still be under a mile of ice and we could all walk to the Alps. That’s if there was anything available to live off.

[Whitey Grandad]

1 minute ago, buctootim said:

For an intelligent man you say some really dumb things on climate. Guess what? dust bowl conditions in the American mid west in the 1930s did not equate to high global temperatures, they were at or below average. It was the 1940s which were actually warmer than average so if someone wanted to cherry pick data to prove warming you wouldnt start then. I dont know how clear you need it. 

 

  

You’re right. I’m intelligent enough to know when data has been selectively chosen.

Any idea why the temperatures dropped so ‘dramatically‘ from 1880 until 1940? Obviously not enough Honda Civics.

[buctootim]

5 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said:

The climate has always changed and it always will. 

No shit! Seismic insight. Natural and anthropogenic  - two different things.  

Edited 1 August, 2023 by buctootim

[Whitey Grandad]

1 minute ago, buctootim said:

No shit! Seismic insight. Natural and anthropogenic  - two different things.  

Yes indeed. The Sun and the Earth’s tectonics are way stronger that anything mankind thinks it is capable of. 
 

An honest question. Do you think that cutting all man made CO2 emissions to zero would be a good thing? 
 

Question 2. When is the next Ice Age going to happen?

[buctootim]

1 minute ago, Whitey Grandad said:

You’re right. I’m intelligent enough to know when data has been selectively chosen.

Any idea why the temperatures dropped so ‘dramatically‘ from 1880 until 1940? Obviously not enough Honda Civics.

Simple. Because global temperatures had been on a downward trend since at least 1,00AD. That trend started to suddenly reverse as industrialisation and forest cover reduction spread. You dont see sudden upticks like that in nature 

 

 

   

[buctootim]

3 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said:

Yes indeed. The Sun and the Earth’s tectonics are way stronger that anything mankind thinks it is capable of. 
 

An honest question. Do you think that cutting all man made CO2 emissions to zero would be a good thing? 
 

Question 2. When is the next Ice Age going to happen?

Jeez you talk as if these are original new insights no one has thought of before instead of the bleeding obvious.  Yes everbody knows we need a certain level of ghgs to maintain a comfortable temperature otherwise we'd be like Mars or Venus. The point is the the balance is super fine and we mess with it at our peril.    

Edited 1 August, 2023 by buctootim

[whelk]

1 hour ago, Sheaf Saint said:

This image was doctored, and the post was designed to appeal to angry idiots who wouldn't bother to check the validity of it.

People like you.

 

 

Hey you aren’t calling LD a gullible fool are you? He remembers when you had real weathermen. No birds. 

[Turkish]

Just now, whelk said:

Hey you aren’t calling LD a gullible fool are you? He remembers when you had real weathermen. No birds. 

You're kidding me, weather girls were much better in the 90s

 

[aintforever]

3 hours ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

This just about sums it fucking up. Hysterical reporting by activist media lapped up by “good” people….
 

2 weather forecasts, one from the early 90’s & one from the Woke era. It’s not informing the public of the weather, it’s campaigning…

 

 

The map on the right isn’t a weather forecast you fuckwit. The clue is the fact that it doesn’t have icons on showing you if it is going to be sunny, cloudy or raining. Maps purely indicating temperature have always tended to use colour.

[Lord Duckhunter]

3 hours ago, Turkish said:

Severe weather warning in Southampton today which is a warning a chance of a moderate thunderstorm and moderate wind

Just about sums it up. 
 

Fuck me, imagine if these woke twats were around in ‘76. They’d have probably called the cup final off……
 

 

[Sheaf Saint]

Thunder storms have been classed as severe weather ever since the National Severe Weather Warning Service was introduced in 1988, due to the risk of damage to property and even loss of life that lightning strikes can cause.

It's got nothing to do with project fear. 

[whelk]

1 hour ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

Just about sums it up. 
 

Fuck me, imagine if these woke twats were around in ‘76. They’d have probably called the cup final off……
 

 

Was this you?

 

[ecuk268]

4 hours ago, Turkish said:

You're kidding me, weather girls were much better in the 90s

 

Especially on Live TV, the cable channel run by Mirror Group Newspapers in the late 90's.

The weather was read by a topless Norwegian lady. Other high-brow content included "Tiffany's Big City Tips" where the presenter read the financial news whist stripping to her underwear and "Painted Ladies" where topless girls used their bodies to apply paint to large sheets of paper.

[Turkish]

1 minute ago, ecuk268 said:

Especially on Live TV, the cable channel run by Mirror Group Newspapers in the late 90's.

The weather was read by a topless Norwegian lady. Other high-brow content included "Tiffany's Big City Tips" where the presenter read the financial news whist stripping to her underwear and "Painted Ladies" where topless girls used their bodies to apply paint to large sheets of paper.

🤣🤣 I vaguely remember that thanks for the reminder was mad in hindsight 

[whelk]

3 minutes ago, Turkish said:

🤣🤣 I vaguely remember that thanks for the reminder was mad in hindsight 

Yeah, you try to do it now and the bastards will call it sexist

[Weston Super Saint]

10 hours ago, Sheaf Saint said:

Thunder storms have been classed as severe weather ever since the National Severe Weather Warning Service was introduced in 1988, due to the risk of damage to property and even loss of life that lightning strikes can cause.

It's got nothing to do with project fear. 

That's a lot of semantic bullshit regarding the word 'severe'.

Definitions available here

Arguably using the word 'severe' to describe a 'severe chest infection' or 'severe blood loss' is understandable.  Using it to describe 'heavy rain' when we live in England is over the top.

We have a 'severe' weather alert for North Somerset today because there might be some spray or standing water when it rains!

 

[Weston Super Saint]

15 hours ago, aintforever said:

You could just Google it you thick twat. Here you go I did it for you…

A heatwave is an extended period of hot weather relative to the expected conditions of the area at that time of year. 

Weather is what conditions of the atmosphere are over a short period of time, and climate is how the atmosphere "behaves" over relatively long periods of time.

 

We didn't have any snow where I live in Jan or Feb this year - usually we would have at least 3 or 4 days of sleet or snow in that time frame, so I guess we experienced a 'heatwave'.

Has your Googling of weather definitions discovered what the opposite of 'heatwave' is?  Is it an 'ice age' or 'mini ice age'?  It's barely got above 20c for the whole of July which is 5 or 6 degrees below the expected conditions of the area for this time of year.  

[Sheaf Saint]

So has Iran gone 'woke' now as well?

https://news.sky.com/story/iran-announces-nationwide-shutdown-due-to-soaring-heat-12931849

[AlexLaw76]

I have a severe weather warning on my iphone weather app today.

Moderate wind expected

 

🤣

[Sheaf Saint]

43 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said:

That's a lot of semantic bullshit regarding the word 'severe'.

Definitions available here

Arguably using the word 'severe' to describe a 'severe chest infection' or 'severe blood loss' is understandable.  Using it to describe 'heavy rain' when we live in England is over the top.

We have a 'severe' weather alert for North Somerset today because there might be some spray or standing water when it rains!

 

I think you might need to get your eyesight tested. It quite clearly states "Heavy showers and thunderstorms are expected to develop on Wednesday and may cause some flooding and travel disruption... Probably some damage to a few buildings and structures from lightning strikes".

So no, the warning hasn't been issued just because of some potential standing water and spray, has it.

[Lighthouse]

2 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

I have a severe weather warning on my iphone weather app today.

Moderate wind expected

 

🤣

So? What do you want, a medal?

[sadoldgit]

16 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said:

I separated cardboard from my plastic waste. 

The sacrifices we make to stop the earth from boiling, eh.

If you don’t understand the difference between one person modifying their behaviour and millions of people modifying their behaviour then perhaps get a small child to explain it to you, eh.

Flat earthers like you are the reason financial pressure is needed to be brought to encourage behavial change.

You make exactly the same inane comments about climate change that Donald Trump does. I would be worried if I were you.
 

 

[Tamesaint]

1 hour ago, Weston Super Saint said:

That's a lot of semantic bullshit regarding the word 'severe'.

Definitions available here

Arguably using the word 'severe' to describe a 'severe chest infection' or 'severe blood loss' is understandable.  Using it to describe 'heavy rain' when we live in England is over the top.

We have a 'severe' weather alert for North Somerset today because there might be some spray or standing water when it rains!

 

You really are a plank aren't you.

My 90 year old father lives alone in North Somerset. He would be "severely" affected by a loss of power or other services. I am not in the area ( or the country) atm so am unaware of the weather but this warning is useful to me. I will now check up on him later today to ensure that he is OK. 

Stop being a smart Alec prat. 

 

[AlexLaw76]

43 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

If you don’t understand the difference between one person modifying their behaviour and millions of people modifying their behaviour then perhaps get a small child to explain it to you, eh.

Flat earthers like you are the reason financial pressure is needed to be brought to encourage behavial change.

You make exactly the same inane comments about climate change that Donald Trump does. I would be worried if I were you.
 

 

Please say Far-right, Tommy Robinson and Nazi.  I will then call 'full house'.

[whelk]

46 minutes ago, Tamesaint said:

You really are a plank aren't you.

My 90 year old father lives alone in North Somerset. He would be "severely" affected by a loss of power or other services. I am not in the area ( or the country) atm so am unaware of the weather but this warning is useful to me. I will now check up on him later today to ensure that he is OK. 

Stop being a smart Alec prat. 

 

I think he has a point. Media seem to love terms and now putting ‘bomb’ on things. We are British we love talking about the weather but  has started to become over dramatised.

Should we soon be expecting a flash drought https://time.com/6243307/bomb-cyclone-weather-climate-change-definitions/#

Edited 2 August, 2023 by whelk

[AlexLaw76]

2 minutes ago, whelk said:

I think he has a point. Media seem to love terms and now putting ‘bomb’ on things. We are British we love talking about the weather but  has started to become over dramatised.

exactly. The beast from the east was severe weather, as was the hurricane in the late 80s

moderate wind....well, it is moderate weather, surely?

[Tamesaint]

3 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

exactly. The beast from the east was severe weather, as was the hurricane in the late 80s

moderate wind....well, it is moderate weather, surely?

It's nothing to do with the media. The warning that Piggy came up with came from the Met Office. I appreciate that experts are nowadays often derided but I would prefer to follow their weather interpretation than his. 

[Turkish]

1 hour ago, AlexLaw76 said:

exactly. The beast from the east was severe weather, as was the hurricane in the late 80s

moderate wind....well, it is moderate weather, surely?

What interesting about this thread is that at lot of people on here don’t seem to be know the difference between climate change and weather themselves, hence the emotive response to my very simple question a few days ago about the heat wave in Europe. Lots of graphs, shouting, name calling, accusations and making up things but it wasn’t for over a week that someone actually provided an answer (from google 🤣)

[Turkish]

2 hours ago, sadoldgit said:

If you don’t understand the difference between one person modifying their behaviour and millions of people modifying their behaviour then perhaps get a small child to explain it to you, eh.

Flat earthers like you are the reason financial pressure is needed to be brought to encourage behavial change.

You make exactly the same inane comments about climate change that Donald Trump does. I would be worried if I were you.
 

 

When you were heading the typist department at the CPJ Is this how you thought you’d spend the autumn of your life Sog? Consumed with hatred for people you’ve never met on internet forums that you search out every response to every post they make so you can add your emoji response to it. Having to carry out the lie that you’ve got them on ignore then cover your tracks when the mask slips, which it does regularly. Spending days trying to prove Jews aren’t a race to try to win an argument on a football forum, so eaten up with hatred for the tories and brown women that it’s all you think about and to cap it all have to condense it all into 3 posts a day!

[AlexLaw76]

17 minutes ago, Turkish said:

What interesting about this thread is that at lot of people on here don’t seem to be know the difference between climate change and weather themselves, hence the emotive response to my very simple question a few days ago about the heat wave in Europe. Lots of graphs, shouting, name calling, accusations and making up things but it wasn’t for over a week that someone actually provided an answer (from google 🤣)

Shut up you flat-earther, climate change denying Nazi. I bet you have a picture of Farage on your wall, you TERF bigot.

[sadoldgit]

It really isn’t that hard but obviously those who are hard of thinking find it so.

We have always had weather. The climate has always and will always change over periods of time. The issue is that the activities of a certain species have accelerated and are accelerating the speed at which the climate is changing and that is having and will have a detrimental effect on the climate and weather conditions of the planet. 

Strangely it  is usually the same people that have certain other traits, beliefs and agendas who deny the clear fact that mankind is responsible for the accelerating of climate change.

 

 

 

[buctootim]

4 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said:

I have a severe weather warning on my iphone weather app today.

Moderate wind expected

 

🤣

Except you don't. You simply have a weather warning you aren't able to understand despite the definitions of each category being posted numerous times, including above. 

[aintforever]

1 hour ago, Turkish said:

What interesting about this thread is that at lot of people on here don’t seem to be know the difference between climate change and weather themselves, hence the emotive response to my very simple question a few days ago about the heat wave in Europe. Lots of graphs, shouting, name calling, accusations and making up things but it wasn’t for over a week that someone actually provided an answer (from google 🤣)

You genuinely didn't know the difference between climate and weather.

 

[buctootim]

2 hours ago, Tamesaint said:

It's nothing to do with the media. The warning that Piggy came up with came from the Met Office. I appreciate that experts are nowadays often derided but I would prefer to follow their weather interpretation than his. 

The warning he posted was yellow - ie the mildest of the the yellow amber and red warnings. The problem is too many saddos want to be outraged on social media about something somebody said or did  - usually aging, poorly educated men.      

Edited 2 August, 2023 by buctootim