Southampton 3-2 Burnley - Match Thread

[Ohio Saint]

4 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

If we’re playing shite, you’re not allowed to state that. Particularly when we’re 2-0 down. You need to post “happy clappy come on lads, we an do this” type of posts. 

Alternatively, you can be concerned and pissed off, but understand that there is a lot more left of the game and hope for the best.

[Lord Duckhunter]

Just now, The Cat said:

The only option is that Vestergaard man marks Woods, but I'm sure Burnley would find a way to counter that. 

Other sides manage to contain Woods & Vedra. They’re hardly Toshack and Keegan FFS. It’s Burnley 

[OttawaSaint]

Just now, The Cat said:

Drawing 2-2 isn't bad. 

The issue is we let in a goal and a load of people throw their toys out of the pram. There were already signs before their second goal that we were getting into the game and finding decent pockets of space. Enough to show that we'd create a few decent chances. Take one and the whole game changes, and that's exactly what happened.

Yep. As usual the “big men” of the forum have made themselves look like total prats.

[Lord Duckhunter]

1 minute ago, Pamplemousse said:

Oh absolutely they deserve criticism. We couldn't keep the ball and defensively we were all over the place.

Exactly 

[Sheaf Saint]

Well that was a strange half. I honestly thought it was all over at 0-2, because Burnley are usually very good at protecting leads and we always struggle/fail to score against those kind of sides.

But since Pieters went off it does seem like tactically it has gone in our favour. Thought Pope should have saved Stu's shot but Danny's touch was excellent and he looked like the pre- injury Ings for his goal.

I'm not overly confident we won't concede again, but I'll honestly take a point. Will be absolutely gutting for us to force our way back into it only to go on and lose.

[Mr X]

Commentators trying to sell ings to spurs or City 

[Chris cooper]

1 minute ago, nta786 said:

Now that we are at 2-2 don’t know why its beyond reason for us to criticise the team when they were 2-0 down.

Equally, I’ll give credit where its due to the lads for fighting back. Let’s hope it finishes 4-2 or something that would be nice

Because we are shit defending today and the 1st 20 mins we were asleep .. pieters gone off has opened up some space .. good response from saints but gaping holes across the back needs to be addressed!

[The Cat]

Just now, S-Clarke said:

If we're worried about not being able to defend against Woods, then our defenders are not good enough for this level.

He's having a lot of joy against Bednarek, winning most duels. Woods isn't the type of player that centre backs come up against much anymore which is maybe why he's struggling a bit. 

Not sure if we're defending any differently against him today than we did last time. 

[Teddeer]

11 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

Why the fuck is Vesty not picking him up? 

Exactly. Surely you designate your tallest defender to mark Woods who is beating Bednarek every time. 

[S-Clarke]

2 minutes ago, The Cat said:

He's having a lot of joy against Bednarek, winning most duels. Woods isn't the type of player that centre backs come up against much anymore which is maybe why he's struggling a bit. 

Not sure if we're defending any differently against him today than we did last time. 

This is how Jan has been for weeks and weeks tbh. He's a proper liability for us at the moment. He's either a decent PL defender, or an absolute mess at this level. There's no in between with him.

I'd be tempted to sub him at HT as he seems like a mistake waiting, but I know we won't.

[Turkish]

Just now, Teddeer said:

Exactly. Surely you designate your tallest defender to mark Woods who is beating Bednarek every time. 

I’d stick Redmond on him, all players should be able to head.

[Teddeer]

Just now, Turkish said:

I’d stick Redmond on him, all players should be able to head.

Moron.

[Micky]

Big, big 45 now.

[OttawaSaint]

Good start, Theo powderpuff pass ruined a good move...

[Mr X]

Walcott is such an abysmal passer and decision maker 

[woodsaint1]

1 minute ago, Teddeer said:

Exactly. Surely you designate your tallest defender to mark Woods who is beating Bednarek every time. 

You do know that strikers regularly switch positions to get the best matchups and if you've played football beyond under 8 the best way to deal with that as a defender is to pass the player across. You dont start crossing over each other as its chaotic. Bednarek needs to just deal with the physicality when Wood does move onto him 

[skintsaint]

Just now, Mr X said:

Walcott is such an abysmal passer and decision maker 

Needs to come off.

[BotleySaint]

Just now, skintsaint said:

Needs to come off.

Needs match fitness

[Lord Duckhunter]

Armstrong was on and Prowse tries a Wembley pass to Walcott 

[Saint_clark]

Just now, woodsaint1 said:

You do know that strikers regularly switch positions to get the best matchups and if you've played football beyond under 8 the best way to deal with that as a defender is to pass the player across. You dont start crossing over each other as its chaotic. Bednarek needs to just deal with the physicality when Wood does move onto him 

In those situations I've always thought it's better for the defender to just drop a yard off and let him have it. He's facing away from goal, he's no immediate threat, so keep your eye on the flick ons and if he does bring it down THEN you get tight.

[Saint_clark]

They've been kicking the shit out of Bertrand all game.

[HKsaint]

Diallo cannot pass

[Lee On Solent Saint]

Handing them the initiative again

[Mr X]

We do a lot of silly dallying in front of our own goal.... Just clear it ffs 

[OttawaSaint]

Bednarek having a mare. 

[Patrick Bateman]

Walcott needs match fitness but he's not at the races. I'd like to see Adams come up - someone who is more likely to hold his own against a physical Burnley and make a difference. 

[BotleySaint]

What happened with that throw in just now? Carried the ball half the pitch.

[HKsaint]

Yes Adams to replace Walcott

[Saint_clark]

Wtf is Redmond doing walking away with the ball when they get a freekick? We want to go for the win, stop wasting time.

[nta786]

1 minute ago, OttawaSaint said:

Bednarek having a mare. 

I agree with you he looks like he is being bullied by the Burnley players. 
However, it’s funny WhoScored think he is our best defender on the pitch!

 

 

[Mr X]

Just now, HKsaint said:

Yes Adams to replace Walcott

This 

[igsey]

Bednarek down with a head injury, ref plays on, Burnley nearly score?

[Saint_clark]

Just now, nta786 said:

I agree with you he looks like he is being bullied by the Burnley players. 
However, it’s funny WhoScored think he is our best defender on the pitch!

 

 

They don't "think" anything, they make those ratings based on actual success/failure and stats on the pitch.

[Turkish]

Just now, igsey said:

Bednarek down with a head injury, ref plays on, Burnley nearly score?

It isn’t a head injury 

[The Cat]

Just now, igsey said:

Bednarek down with a head injury, ref plays on, Burnley nearly score?

Wasn't a head injury though, so correct decision.

[Sheaf Saint]

Just now, igsey said:

Bednarek down with a head injury, ref plays on, Burnley nearly score?

Wasn't a head injury.

[OttawaSaint]

Just now, Saint_clark said:

They don't "think" anything, they make those ratings based on actual success/failure and stats on the pitch.

Whole defence have been poor today. Hopefully they pick it up a bit.

[Patrick Bateman]

Chris Wood is such a miserable w*nker, brilliant - a touch of the Duncan Ferguson about him but without being mental (or as good)

[Paul.Studio]

Adams should have started - bring on for redmond. Will never win high balls in the box with their defence.

[Mr X]

Bednarek is going to need support they are wisely  targeting him

[Østerrike]

Hasenhüttl is an attacker too, might be a sub option?

[Saint_clark]

Just now, OttawaSaint said:

Whole defence have been poor today. Hopefully they pick it up a bit.

Those ratings for the defence aren't good by any stretch. Bednarek has made some good interceptions which will have him rated as the best of a bad bunch right now.

Surprised to see Redmond's so high as he hasn't had huge success in what he's done so far, although I think he's had a much better game than usual.

 

[Saint_clark]

Fuck that looked over to me...would have been a great goal.

[nta786]

Wow I thought that was in!!! However ball crashed on the line

[stknowle]

FACK!!!

[OttawaSaint]

Ohhhh. So close! 

[obelisk]

Unlucky JWP.

[Sheaf Saint]

Oh my word that was close!

[hackedoff]

All the ingredients are here for the inevitable.

[The Cat]

Unlucky from Ward Prowse.