Manuel Posted 13 March, 2020 Share Posted 13 March, 2020 Bidet plc shares rocketing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 13 March, 2020 Share Posted 13 March, 2020 The wife is a civil servant and the department she works for sent a 10 point list through of key points. One of the points stated that this virus doesn’t like temperatures of 27+. This might explain why countries like India currently don’t have much of an issue (temperatures around 30+), and countries that are in/going through/coming out of winter are struggling. Here’s hoping for a blazing summer Seems to do alright in humans with their 35-36C temperatures.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Picard Posted 13 March, 2020 Share Posted 13 March, 2020 Better tell the UK's Chief Scientific Adviser that. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/03/13/coronavirus-outbreak-likely-annual-virus-says-governments-chief/ He is speculating as well so Igsey was quite right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 13 March, 2020 Share Posted 13 March, 2020 He is speculating as well so Igsey was quite right. Nope. Igsey said it was untrue. He was speculating Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 13 March, 2020 Share Posted 13 March, 2020 The wife is a civil servant and the department she works for sent a 10 point list through of key points. One of the points stated that this virus doesn’t like temperatures of 27+. This might explain why countries like India currently don’t have much of an issue (temperatures around 30+), and countries that are in/going through/coming out of winter are struggling. Here’s hoping for a blazing summerLooks like climate change could have a benefit after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Picard Posted 14 March, 2020 Share Posted 14 March, 2020 Must be a lot of doctors talking about this on Youtube but this one seems reasonable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 14 March, 2020 Share Posted 14 March, 2020 What a great video - calm and rational!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 14 March, 2020 Share Posted 14 March, 2020 24 minutes for "vital global information" no thanks Give me a one page infographic and I'll crack on with my day. Or shorten the video to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raging Bull Posted 14 March, 2020 Share Posted 14 March, 2020 Assuming 80% of us get this, can we get it twice?? If not then surely there comes a point where the mass panic will calm down because we’ll have had it and built an immunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Billy Posted 14 March, 2020 Share Posted 14 March, 2020 Assuming 80% of us get this, can we get it twice?? If not then surely there comes a point where the mass panic will calm down because we’ll have had it and built an immunity. Another question is, have some of us already had it and not known? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 14 March, 2020 Share Posted 14 March, 2020 Another question is, have some of us already had it and not known? Undoubtedly. It’s been around since November. But there’s really no way of knowing if you’ve had it and you’re not susceptible to the serious symptoms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 14 March, 2020 Share Posted 14 March, 2020 If not then surely there comes a point where the mass panic will calm down because we’ll have had it and built an immunity. This is what our Government is banking on. They appear to believe it’s unavoidable,and once it spreads through the country, eventually it’ll result in less deaths long term. However, this approach will result in people dying early. The approach of other countries is that a lock down will stop the virus. Whilst that’ll result in less deaths in the short and medium term, may well result in more deaths long term. If the virus returns in Oct /Nov clearly we’ll be better prepared as we’ll have some immunity. The other approach only works if the virus ****s off permanently, or a vaccine is found. If it does return & there’s no vaccine , I’d certainly rather be in our shoes than others (that’s provided I don’t peg it during this stage ). Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raging Bull Posted 14 March, 2020 Share Posted 14 March, 2020 Another question is, have some of us already had it and not known? This is the thing. My daughter, for example, was complaining of not being able to breathe properly on the lead up to Christmas. Plus we’ve all (as a family) had odd feelings/afternoons in bed over the last 3 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 14 March, 2020 Share Posted 14 March, 2020 The guy I work for who is 72 went to the Philippines for Christmas and can back with a dry cough and flu like symptoms. It went on for a few weeks before he got better. Makes you wonder! Just saw the front page of the Mail. No surprise there after what they are doing with us oldies in Italy. 66 years old with a heart condition. I guess I won’t make it through triage. Happy days. Meant to be seeing some old school friends in Oxford in a couple of weeks but that trip has just been cancelled. The village hall has a play on this coming Thursday but that looks like it will be cancelled. I have been putting off painting the bathroom. Seems like a good time to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raging Bull Posted 14 March, 2020 Share Posted 14 March, 2020 I have been putting off painting the bathroom. Seems like a good time to do it. I’d rather catch the virus. Also heard that this thing is here for at least 2 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 14 March, 2020 Share Posted 14 March, 2020 Probably. Swine Flu is still around isn’t it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 14 March, 2020 Share Posted 14 March, 2020 Seems to do alright in humans with their 35-36C temperatures.... It's to do with the dryness as well. In a mouth it's the wetness and protection from UV etc that keeps it "alive." Out in the sunlight in dry heat it doesn't last long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 14 March, 2020 Share Posted 14 March, 2020 10 more UK deaths. Spain now in complete lockdown. Keep washing those hands everyone please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 14 March, 2020 Share Posted 14 March, 2020 10 more UK deaths. Spain now in complete lockdown. Keep washing those hands everyone please. Any ages or locations given? Is slightly odd that no profiles or details given so far of these fatalities Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 14 March, 2020 Share Posted 14 March, 2020 10 more UK deaths. Spain now in complete lockdown. Keep washing those hands everyone please. good advice. If you are self isolating, better stay in for the next few months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 14 March, 2020 Share Posted 14 March, 2020 Any ages or locations given? Is slightly odd that no profiles or details given so far of these fatalities London, Leicester and Birmingham and all victims apparently in the “at risk” group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctoroncall Posted 14 March, 2020 Share Posted 14 March, 2020 Hundreds of members of the scientific community have sent two open letters to the British government, voicing their concerns about the government’s response to the coronavirus outbreak. One comes from 198 academics in the field of maths and science , calling for urgent measures of social distancing across the UK. It says: “Going for “herd immunity” at this point does not seem a viable option, as this will put NHS at an even stronger level of stress, risking many more lives than necessary.” Another letter has been signed by 164 behavioural scientists. It raises concerns about the idea of ‘behavioural fatigue’ - the idea that if the public are instructed to take preventative measures too early, they’ll eventually revert back to prior behaviour. The letter suggests that this has been a cornerstone of British government policy on coronavirus and sheds doubt on the evidence behind this. “While we fully support an evidence-based approach to policy that draws on behavioural science, we are not convinced that enough is known about “behavioural fatigue” or to what extent these insights apply to the current exceptional circumstances,” it says. “If “behavioural fatigue” truly represents a key factor in the government’s decision to delay high-visibility interventions, we urge the government to share an adequate evidence base in support of that decision. If one is lacking, we urge the government to reconsider these decisions,” it ends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 14 March, 2020 Share Posted 14 March, 2020 Has Johnson said “Let’s get Covid-19 done” yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 14 March, 2020 Author Share Posted 14 March, 2020 Has Johnson said “Let’s get Covid-19 done” yet? Bit stupid trying to make this a political thing. The whole world is suffering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 14 March, 2020 Share Posted 14 March, 2020 (edited) Bit stupid trying to make this a political thing. The whole world is suffering.A bit stupid? It's retarded. Almost as idiotic as the far left twitter replies to the news that nadone dories has the virus. Edited 14 March, 2020 by hypochondriac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 14 March, 2020 Share Posted 14 March, 2020 Bit stupid trying to make this a political thing. The whole world is suffering. He managed to slip in “Let’s get Bewdley” done when visiting flooded areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 14 March, 2020 Share Posted 14 March, 2020 It's to do with the dryness as well. In a mouth it's the wetness and protection from UV etc that keeps it "alive." Out in the sunlight in dry heat it doesn't last long. Manchester's ****ed then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 14 March, 2020 Share Posted 14 March, 2020 A bit stupid? It's retarded. Almost as idiotic as the far left twitter replies to the news that nadone dories has the virus. Carole Cadwalladr is loving this at the moment.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 14 March, 2020 Share Posted 14 March, 2020 Carole Cadwalladr is loving this at the moment..They really are the worst type of people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rallyboy Posted 14 March, 2020 Share Posted 14 March, 2020 It didn't take Cummings long to start throwing his own voters under a bus. He's ruthless that boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 14 March, 2020 Share Posted 14 March, 2020 Carole Cadwalladr is loving this at the moment.. What's she done? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 14 March, 2020 Share Posted 14 March, 2020 A bit stupid? It's retarded. Almost as idiotic as the far left twitter replies to the news that nadone dories has the virus. Johnson, like Trump, spits out glib throwaway lines when dealing with major issues in the hope that people will think they have things under control. They clearly don’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 14 March, 2020 Share Posted 14 March, 2020 In a recent poll only 36% trust in what Johnson says and is doing about the situation. This is not about playing politics. This is about competency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 14 March, 2020 Share Posted 14 March, 2020 What's she done? Refused to accept that the Government has a clear, coherent, and effective strategy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 14 March, 2020 Share Posted 14 March, 2020 In a recent poll only 36% trust in what Johnson says and is doing about the situation. This is not about playing politics. This is about competency. Were these people polled outside of the supermarket, after a punch up over loo roll?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 14 March, 2020 Share Posted 14 March, 2020 Johnson, like Trump, spits out glib throwaway lines when dealing with major issues in the hope that people will think they have things under control. They clearly don’t. Give it a ****ing rest. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 14 March, 2020 Share Posted 14 March, 2020 Johnson, like Trump, spits out glib throwaway lines when dealing with major issues in the hope that people will think they have things under control. They clearly don’t.You've got absolutely no idea. This isn't Johnson's plan, he's following the scientific advice of people miles smarter than me or you. It could be wrong but to suggest that somehow it's some sort of vanity thing or that he isn't doing anything is pig ignorant and pathetic because you hate the tories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 14 March, 2020 Share Posted 14 March, 2020 Johnson, like Trump, spits out glib throwaway lines when dealing with major issues in the hope that people will think they have things under control. They clearly don’t. It's a contagious, airbourne virus with no current vaccine. Enlighten us, how exactly is it possible to 'get things under control'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 14 March, 2020 Share Posted 14 March, 2020 It's a contagious, airbourne virus with no current vaccine. Enlighten us, how exactly is it possible to 'get things under control'? It’s nice that you apparently have confidence in our leader. It would seem that the majority of the country don’t agree with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trader Posted 14 March, 2020 Share Posted 14 March, 2020 It’s nice that you apparently have confidence in our leader. It would seem that the majority of the country don’t agree with you. On the contrary, it would seem that, as confirmed only a few months ago, that the majority of the country don’t agree with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 14 March, 2020 Share Posted 14 March, 2020 (edited) You've got absolutely no idea. This isn't Johnson's plan, he's following the scientific advice of people miles smarter than me or you. It could be wrong but to suggest that somehow it's some sort of vanity thing or that he isn't doing anything is pig ignorant and pathetic because you hate the tories. Quite. Playing party politics right now is just about the must vulgar thing that could happen. Quite rightly, science is leading the way. To equate the the rights and wrongs of the scientific route with the politics is simply madness. Edited 14 March, 2020 by Colinjb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 14 March, 2020 Share Posted 14 March, 2020 It’s nice that you apparently have confidence in our leader. It would seem that the majority of the country don’t agree with you. I'm under no illusion that this is not Boris's doing! He is taking his advice from the qualified people who know far better than him! So, tell us, how should they go about 'getting things under control'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctoroncall Posted 14 March, 2020 Share Posted 14 March, 2020 Quite. Playing party politics right now is just about the must vulgar thing that could happen. Quite rightly, science is leading the way. To equate the the rights and wrongs of the scientific route with the politics is simply madness. It’s not all about science but executing a plan of action with many stakeholders. The biggest of which are the people. There are many others from supermarkets, schools, HCPs, local authorities, labs, medical kit manufacturers, etc etc. It seems not many know what to do hence you are seeing businesses and organisations dictating policy to protect their workers (and hence their business). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 14 March, 2020 Share Posted 14 March, 2020 I'm under no illusion that this is not Boris's doing! He is taking his advice from the qualified people who know far better than him! So, tell us, how should they go about 'getting things under control'? Other countries have taken more serious actions earlier to try an deal with it. Why haven’t we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Picard Posted 14 March, 2020 Share Posted 14 March, 2020 It's a contagious, airbourne virus with no current vaccine. Enlighten us, how exactly is it possible to 'get things under control'? The Chinese seem to be getting it under control Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 14 March, 2020 Share Posted 14 March, 2020 It’s nice that you apparently have confidence in our leader. It would seem that the majority of the country don’t agree with you.Well the Conservatives are currently streets ahead in the polls and the latest survey on response to the crisis shows people supporting the government's approach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 14 March, 2020 Share Posted 14 March, 2020 (edited) It’s not all about science but executing a plan of action with many stakeholders. The biggest of which are the people. There are many others from supermarkets, schools, HCPs, local authorities, labs, medical kit manufacturers, etc etc. It seems not many know what to do hence you are seeing businesses and organisations dictating policy to protect their workers (and hence their business). Exactly. And let’s be clear: while scientists will provide significant input/advice, it will usually be in the form of a menu of choices/options from which the PM will still ‘choose’. Likewise the PM will be critical in defining the problem and it’s constraints to which experts will then find the best solution(s) from all feasible solutions. Edited 14 March, 2020 by shurlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 14 March, 2020 Share Posted 14 March, 2020 The Chinese seem to be getting it under controlConfucius wept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 14 March, 2020 Share Posted 14 March, 2020 Hundreds of members of the scientific community have sent two open letters to the British government, voicing their concerns about the government’s response to the coronavirus outbreak. One comes from 198 academics in the field of maths and science , calling for urgent measures of social distancing across the UK. It says: “Going for “herd immunity” at this point does not seem a viable option, as this will put NHS at an even stronger level of stress, risking many more lives than necessary.” Another letter has been signed by 164 behavioural scientists. It raises concerns about the idea of ‘behavioural fatigue’ - the idea that if the public are instructed to take preventative measures too early, they’ll eventually revert back to prior behaviour. The letter suggests that this has been a cornerstone of British government policy on coronavirus and sheds doubt on the evidence behind this. “While we fully support an evidence-based approach to policy that draws on behavioural science, we are not convinced that enough is known about “behavioural fatigue” or to what extent these insights apply to the current exceptional circumstances,” it says. “If “behavioural fatigue” truly represents a key factor in the government’s decision to delay high-visibility interventions, we urge the government to share an adequate evidence base in support of that decision. If one is lacking, we urge the government to reconsider these decisions,” it ends. I wonder why out of all the experts the government have chosen the **** ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 14 March, 2020 Author Share Posted 14 March, 2020 (edited) Want ti know what the govt is doing? Make sure you get a Telegraph subscription Edited 14 March, 2020 by whelk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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