Coronavirus

[shurlock]

The daily death count seems to be dropping significantly.

 

It has dropped sharply but we'll learn more tomorrow given weekends and mondays tend to be slow days. I wouldn't be surprised if it hits 350-400 tomorrow but the downwards trend is clear. Lead indicators such as change in new infections will give some sense of the impact of relaxing lockdown rules, even after taking increased testing into account, so will be particularly worth monitoring.

Edited 19 May, 2020 by shurlock

[The Cat]

If the downward trend continues then in a couple of weeks the figures should start to dip below 100 on some days.

 

We're obviously making progress in the right direction.

[Weston Super Saint]

 

The caption states : In Italy, restaurants have also opened for the first time in 10 weeks with social distancing measures in place

 

Ingenious! Put some plexiglass on the tables that isn't quite long enough to be effective but keep the tables where they've always been, that looks like it'll work! The tables behind have got plexiglass as well, so they'll likely be in use when it's busy. No idea what could go wrong

[Lighthouse]

 

The caption states : In Italy, restaurants have also opened for the first time in 10 weeks with social distancing measures in place

 

Ingenious! Put some plexiglass on the tables that isn't quite long enough to be effective but keep the tables where they've always been, that looks like it'll work! The tables behind have got plexiglass as well, so they'll likely be in use when it's busy. No idea what could go wrong

 

Seems relatively sensible to me. Restaurants are very high risk as anyone with the virus is likely to project aerosols onto other people’s food, just through normal breathing. This seems like a fairly good way to reduce that risk, much like a sneeze guard in any half decent canteen.

[aintforever]

I see our government have finally added loss of taste and smell to the symptoms for Covid 19, typically a few weeks to a month behind everyone else.

[rallyboy]

62 days after I developed those symptoms.

Thankfully Dr Google made the link at the time as he'd been listening to advice from abroad.

[Lighthouse]

Has anyone else had the new rectal swab test? Some guy knocked on the front door, said he was from the government. I should have the results in 2-3 days.

[Whitey Grandad]

Has anyone else had the new rectal swab test? Some guy knocked on the front door, said he was from the government. I should have the results in 2-3 days.

 

Don’t worry. You can’t get pregnant from those.

[aintforever]

62 days after I developed those symptoms.

Thankfully Dr Google made the link at the time as he'd been listening to advice from abroad.

 

I had those symptoms back in March along with at least five other people I know. Luckily I googled it as well as was careful around my parents. I expect a fair few lives would have been saved if our government wasn’t so ****ing slow at reacting.

[The Cat]

Does everyone who finds Mrs Brown's Boys funny need to be tested for a loss of taste?

[Saint Billy]

Has anyone else had the new rectal swab test? Some guy knocked on the front door, said he was from the government. I should have the results in 2-3 days.

 

Hopefully you lost your sense of smell and taste before he did it.

[Turkish]

Does everyone who finds Mrs Brown's Boys funny need to be tested for a loss of taste?

 

Im yet to meet anyone that does.

[CB Fry]

The press conference was slightly more interesting today. Today's boffin Angela McClean (who always comes across well anyway) was in absolutely no mood to be seen as a government lackey.

 

She pointedly said that the early testing decisions were driven by capacity, that the schools reopening should happen when there is adequate test-and-trace in place, not on some arbitrary deadline. She made it very clear that any balls-ups on the execution of the field testing was an operational not scientific issue.

 

Lastly was full of praise for South Korea and the Germans, rather than the usual woolly "well, we can't really compare with others etc etc".

 

There's been a bit of nitpicking of the scientists recently (yesterday's slip about February dates being a good example) and it felt today that the scientists are going to show a little more than just social distance between them and the ministers from now on.

[shurlock]

The press conference was slightly more interesting today. Today's boffin Angela McClean (who always comes across well anyway) was in absolutely no mood to be seen as a government lackey.

 

She pointedly said that the early testing decisions were driven by capacity, that the schools reopening should happen when there is adequate test-and-trace in place, not on some arbitrary deadline. She made it very clear that any balls-ups on the execution of the field testing was an operational not scientific issue.

 

Lastly was full of praise for South Korea and the Germans, rather than the usual woolly "well, we can't really compare with others etc etc".

 

There's been a bit of nitpicking of the scientists recently (yesterday's slip about February dates being a good example) and it felt today that the scientists are going to show a little more than just social distance between them and the ministers from now on.

 

She was a breath of fresh air today.

[aintforever]

South Korea do seem to be on top of this, some good news from them:

 

https://www.sciencenews.org/article/coronavirus-covid19-reinfection-immune-response

[egg]

The press conference was slightly more interesting today. Today's boffin Angela McClean (who always comes across well anyway) was in absolutely no mood to be seen as a government lackey.

 

She pointedly said that the early testing decisions were driven by capacity, that the schools reopening should happen when there is adequate test-and-trace in place, not on some arbitrary deadline. She made it very clear that any balls-ups on the execution of the field testing was an operational not scientific issue.

 

Lastly was full of praise for South Korea and the Germans, rather than the usual woolly "well, we can't really compare with others etc etc".

 

There's been a bit of nitpicking of the scientists recently (yesterday's slip about February dates being a good example) and it felt today that the scientists are going to show a little more than just social distance between them and the ministers from now on.

 

Yes, her honesty and openness was refreshing. Can't imagine we'll see her again.

[ecuk268]

Yes, her honesty and openness was refreshing. Can't imagine we'll see her again.

 

Exactly.

 

People telling the truth? Anathema to the Government.

[CB Fry]

Starting to think I might get a call up to speak for the government at the Downing Street press conference one day soon.

 

I'm a white man in his 40s and I'm not the Home Secretary so I feel I'm in with decent chance.

Edited 20 May, 2020 by CB Fry

[Weston Super Saint]

Mental!

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-52742519

 

Give 'em an inch....

[Saint WGC]

Chesney from Coronation Stret has gone up in the world, he's now doing the Coronavirus update lol.

 

On a more serious note, with all the debate as to whether it's safe for schools to open on 1st June, am I the only person in the UK wondering why they don't just bring the school summer holidays forward to start from Tuesday onwards. This will buy the government and schools at least six more weeks to put into place plans to make it safer for schools to re-open.

 

These are unique circumstances so why can some flexibility not be shown this year. The usual argument that teachers and parents/families go on holidays in late July and August surely is pretty irrelevant on this occasion as it seems that nobody will be going on holiday properly anywhere in the UK or certainly abroad for a few months.

 

Surely this can only be a good thing for everyone as the kids will not miss out on more education as everyone keeps saying and teachers and parents will maybe have more reassurance with a better guarantee of safety. I must be missing something here as I don't have kids but I'm genuinely confused why this does not even appear to be in consideration.

[Whitey Grandad]

Mental!

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-52742519

 

Give 'em an inch....

 

Perranporth Beach is 3km long so 300 people on it would not even be noticed and the car park at Saunton Sands has plenty of spaces. It’s time that these little Hitlers got back to their regular daytime jobs.

[whelk]

Mental!

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-52742519

 

Give 'em an inch....

 

Where do all the women p1ss?

[ecuk268]

I see Boris got through PMQs OK:

 

https://newsthump.com/2020/05/20/boris-successfully-completes-pmqs-without-****ting-pants/

[badgerx16]

Mental!

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-52742519

 

Give 'em an inch....

This was entirely predictable, it's strange that the Government didn't appear to think so. with their 'Stay Alert' appeal to English common sense.

[Lord Duckhunter]

I see that right on woke leftie Coogan has furloughed his Gardener & housekeeper. Typical, is that really what this scheme was designed to do, save millionaires a few quid. No doubt the lefties on here will be defending him.

[CB Fry]

I see that right on woke leftie Coogan has furloughed his Gardener & housekeeper. Typical, is that really what this scheme was designed to do, save millionaires a few quid. No doubt the lefties on here will be defending him.

We all know that The Sun, Guido Fawkes and you remain absolutely passionate supporters of the free market right to hack the mobile phones of murdered teenagers so not a huge surprise that you are lining up with them to berate Steve Coogan for something that every single millionaire in the country has also done.

[whelk]

We all know that The Sun, Guido Fawkes and you remain absolutely passionate supporters of the free market right to hack the mobile phones of murdered teenagers so not a huge surprise that you are lining up with them to berate Steve Coogan for something that every single millionaire in the country has also done.

 

As funny is the old duffer using ‘woke’

[whelk]

Not sure this is a true queue but people want their McDonalds

 

How very un-British of the blue car

 

 

[Weston Super Saint]

Where do all the women p1ss?

 

North Somerset council stated at the weekend that all public toilets would remain closed - presumably in the vain hope of disuading the Brummies from visiting.

 

The local news reported they were all open - and accepting the 20p a go - yesterday. Never shy away from making a few quid do NS Council

[Guided Missile]

We all know that The Sun, Guido Fawkes and you remain absolutely passionate supporters of the free market right to hack the mobile phones of murdered teenagers...

Well done, you leftist nutter. You managed 0 out of 3.

• It was the New of the World at the centre of the phone hacking, not the Sun. You may have noticed that the NoW is no longer published.
  
• Guido Fawkes regularly publishes articles exposing phone hacking, as in these.
  
• I have yet to read a single post by "Lord Duckhunter" supporting the right of the free market to hack phones of murdered teenagers.
  

On the basis of this evil and poisonous post, you have revealed what an obnoxious sh!t you are, making such a claim against a fellow Saints supporter. What is even worse is you are defending a champagne socialist millionaire by bringing up a tragic murder of a teenager.

[rallyboy]

The Coogan attack is an attempt to distract simple folk away from the big story of the day, the enquiry around the conduct of the Prime Minister.

A simple Cummings tactic, and it seems to work.

To knock Johnson enquiry down the search rankings you can also expect to hear Covid 19 announcements using the word enquiry, nothing reduces damage like confusion....and the bots will be out.

Welcome to politics in 2020.

[Guided Missile]

The Coogan attack is an attempt to distract simple folk away from the big story of the day, the enquiry around the conduct of the Prime Minister.

A simple Cummings tactic, and it seems to work.

To knock Johnson enquiry down the search rankings you can also expect to hear Covid 19 announcements using the word enquiry, nothing reduces damage like confusion....and the bots will be out.

Welcome to politics in 2020.

I think you mean inquiry. Welcome to adult literacy in 2020...

[rallyboy]

[badgerx16]

Well done, you leftist nutter. You managed 0 out of 3.

• It was the New of the World at the centre of the phone hacking, not the Sun. You may have noticed that the NoW is no longer published.
  
• Guido Fawkes regularly publishes articles exposing phone hacking, as in these.
  
• I have yet to read a single post by "Lord Duckhunter" supporting the right of the free market to hack phones of murdered teenagers.
  

On the basis of this evil and poisonous post, you have revealed what an obnoxious sh!t you are, making such a claim against a fellow Saints supporter. What is even worse is you are defending a champagne socialist millionaire by bringing up a tragic murder of a teenager.

Calm down dear, it's only a football forum.

[Tamesaint]

Well done, you leftist nutter. You managed 0 out of 3.

• It was the New of the World at the centre of the phone hacking, not the Sun. You may have noticed that the NoW is no longer published.
  
• Guido Fawkes regularly publishes articles exposing phone hacking, as in these.
  
• I have yet to read a single post by "Lord Duckhunter" supporting the right of the free market to hack phones of murdered teenagers.
  

On the basis of this evil and poisonous post, you have revealed what an obnoxious sh!t you are, making such a claim against a fellow Saints supporter. What is even worse is you are defending a champagne socialist millionaire by bringing up a tragic murder of a teenager.

 

Cheese wire would sort CB Fry out wouldn't it ?

 

Why not put him on ignore?

[CB Fry]

Well done, you leftist nutter. You managed 0 out of 3.

• It was the New of the World at the centre of the phone hacking, not the Sun. You may have noticed that the NoW is no longer published.
  
• Guido Fawkes regularly publishes articles exposing phone hacking, as in these.
  
• I have yet to read a single post by "Lord Duckhunter" supporting the right of the free market to hack phones of murdered teenagers.
  

On the basis of this evil and poisonous post, you have revealed what an obnoxious sh!t you are, making such a claim against a fellow Saints supporter. What is even worse is you are defending a champagne socialist millionaire by bringing up a tragic murder of a teenager.

Suck it up snowflake x x x x x x

[buctootim]

On the basis of this evil and poisonous post,

Worse than pesticide?

[badgerx16]

Why not put him on ignore?

If GM put on ignore all those he threatens to, he would be very lonely, and have a much lower post count on SaintsWeb.

[aintforever]

I see that right on woke leftie Coogan has furloughed his Gardener & housekeeper. Typical, is that really what this scheme was designed to do, save millionaires a few quid. No doubt the lefties on here will be defending him.

 

There will be millionaire owners of companies up and down the country using the scheme, not sure what your point is?

[Guided Missile]

There will be millionaire owners of companies up and down the country using the scheme, not sure what your point is?

Socialism is an economic and political system. It is an economic theory of social organization. It believes that the means of making, moving, and trading wealth should be owned or controlled by the workers. ... People who agree with this type of system are called socialists. Steve Coogan is a millionaire, cocaine-snorting, whore-chasing, champagne socialist and hypocrite, stealing tax money from the workers.

 

I think that was his point...

[Guided Missile]

#tonedeaf

[Wes Tender]

There will be millionaire owners of companies up and down the country using the scheme, not sure what your point is?

 

And all of them open themselves to criticism if they employed the same tactics as Coogan if they furloughed the likes of their gardeners and housekeepers. It is very interesting to note the support on here for Coogan over something that is arguably indefensible given his well known leftie political views. Apart from there being little reason for the gardener in particular not being able to carry on his work in presumably quite a large garden whilst self-isolating, most will wonder why he is using a government scheme designed to protest businesses, not wealthy private individuals. The next time this champagne socialist uses the platform he has gained as a media minor celebrity to spout his vitriol at the Conservative government, he should not be surprised if the interviewer ripostes with accusations of hypocrisy because of his readiness to avail himself of taxpayers' money to save him putting his hands in his pocket to pay his staff.

 

He might like to reflect on the letter of support for Corbyn to which he was a signatory which stated "Labour's election manifesto under Jeremy Corbyn's leadership offers a transformative plan that prioritises the needs of people and the planet over private profit and the vested interests of a few".

[badgerx16]

Steve Coogan is a millionaire, cocaine-snorting, whore-chasing, champagne socialist and hypocrite, stealing tax money from the workers.

 

[Lord Duckhunter]

The Coogan attack is an attempt to distract simple folk away from the big story of the day, the enquiry around the conduct of the Prime Minister.

A simple Cummings tactic, and it seems to work.

To knock Johnson enquiry down the search rankings you can also expect to hear Covid 19 announcements using the word enquiry, nothing reduces damage like confusion....and the bots will be out.

Welcome to politics in 2020.

 

This has aged well.

 

 

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[Lord Duckhunter]

No doubt the lefties on here will be defending him.

 

Like shelling peas.

 

 

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[benjii]

Socialism is an economic and political system. It is an economic theory of social organization. It believes that the means of making, moving, and trading wealth should be owned or controlled by the workers. ... People who agree with this type of system are called socialists. Steve Coogan is a millionaire, cocaine-snorting, whore-chasing, champagne socialist and hypocrite, stealing tax money from the workers.

 

I think that was his point...

 

Do you not like hypocritical, monied, sex-pests any more then?

[benjii]

I can't see a single post that defends Coogan. Just posts that point out he won't be alone and that he's one person and, in the grand scheme of things, this ain't news.

 

For what it's worth, unless there's some good reason we're unaware of, i think he's a bellend for furloughing domestic staff.

 

But it is a nice simple story for nice simple people.

[saint1977]

Like shelling peas.

 

 

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I don't see any defending of Coogan whatsoever. I personally can't stand the bloke. I also saw criticism of politically neutral wealthy folks for using furlough e.g. Victoria Beckham which is fair enough.

 

What I haven't seen in the Sun is an identical front page splash about Philip Green using it, which there should have been. Therefore, far more like propaganda than journalism if you care to look up the description. Client journalism if I'm being generous.

 

CB Fry calling out Murdoch on Milly Dowler is entirely fair - no-one sensible is going to argue that the NOTW are not the same entity as the Sun/Sunday Sun, some hacks moved over. That was replusive criminal activity enacted on the public which the Sun claims to represent. I've also not seen yet one single critical, even broadly reflective article from either the Sun or the Telegraph of the government's handling of this crisis. Not even a hint of one. Smacks of North Korea state TV. Yet we are seeing other outlets banned from the briefings. I do hope Cummings is not taking direct advice from Bannon.

 

Also, not every Remainer or Lib Dem, Tory centrist is a 'leftie'. Or indeed New Labour, you'd struggle to call them lefties. Would love to see you explain that to Ken Clarke's face and how you are so glad your 'heroes' drained the swamp. Whatever that means.

 

HTH

[CB Fry]

I can't see a single post that defends Coogan. Just posts that point out he won't be alone and that he's one person and, in the grand scheme of things, this ain't news.

 

For what it's worth, unless there's some good reason we're unaware of, i think he's a bellend for furloughing domestic staff.

 

But it is a nice simple story for nice simple people.

Absolutely. I am happy to make it crystal clear that I'm not defending Coogan either.

 

But it is nice to learn that Duckhunter and Guided Missile believe that millionaires furloughing the personal staff is a terrible, disgraceful thing for people to do. I look on with interest in seeing which other rich people they single out for criticism.

[whelk]

They need to be chalking up all these fckers taking advantage of the furlough scheme.

Fact that everyone thinks these companies are a month away from collapse without being bailed out by the govt is laughable. Clearly some will be but where have all the profits gone so quickly?

 

Said before should put people on a different tax code afterwards cos the likes of Ineos are going to be sure to doing their level best to not give anything back when they fully up and running.

Close a few more libraries, freeze social workers pay..... will be the clamour from the gammon.