Coronavirus

[hypochondriac]

13 hours ago, aintforever said:

Studies of the earliest viral genomes seem to indicate the Wuhan market as the cause, they even pinpoint the actual location within the market.

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2448671-evidence-points-to-wuhan-market-as-source-of-covid-19-outbreak/

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy8095xjg4po

We will probably never know for sure but it would be interesting to see the actual evidence for it starting from the lab.

And yet this week:

 

[badgerx16]

31 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

And yet this week:

 

As posted yesterday, the CIA, on the day after it's new Trump appointed head takes position, states "with low confidence" that it has changed it's opinion.

[hypochondriac]

11 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

As posted yesterday, the CIA, on the day after it's new Trump appointed head takes position, states "with low confidence" that it has changed it's opinion.

 

But officials told US media that the new assessment was not based on new intelligence and predates the Trump administration. The review was reportedly ordered in the closing weeks of the Biden administration and completed before Trump took office on Monday.

Like you said it's unlikely we will ever know the truth either way. My argument has always been that we should have always been allowed to discuss the possibility of a lab leak. 

Edited January 27 by hypochondriac

[aintforever]

7 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

 

But officials told US media that the new assessment was not based on new intelligence and predates the Trump administration. The review was reportedly ordered in the closing weeks of the Biden administration and completed before Trump took office on Monday.

Like you said it's unlikely we will ever know the truth either way. My argument has always been that we should have always been allowed to discuss the possibility of a lab leak. 

What is their evidence?

[Whitey Grandad]

59 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

And yet this week:

 

Both could be possible. A lab leak that spread to a local market perhaps?

I don’t believe in coincidences. An outbreak of a new type of disease in an area close to a laboratory specialising in obscure viruses?

[hypochondriac]

54 minutes ago, aintforever said:

What is their evidence?

I would suggest that the evidence they have access to is greater than the evidence you or I possess given the nature of their organisation. Will probably never know but it's certainly not a laughable theory, it's entirely plausible.

[hypochondriac]

46 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said:

Both could be possible. A lab leak that spread to a local market perhaps?

I don’t believe in coincidences. An outbreak of a new type of disease in an area close to a laboratory specialising in obscure viruses?

That's quite likely in my opinion. Lab leak with the outbreak starting in the market. 

[aintforever]

24 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

I would suggest that the evidence they have access to is greater than the evidence you or I possess given the nature of their organisation. Will probably never know but it's certainly not a laughable theory, it's entirely plausible.

I know it's entirely plausible, but so is the idea that they are just saying that for political reasons. I'd be tempted to believe the scientists more than the spokesman for an agency working for a government with an anti-China agenda. They are free to disclose their evidence if they have any.

"“Now, the most important thing is to make China pay for unleashing a plague on the world,” Cotton said in a statement."