Raging Bull Posted 27 February, 2020 Share Posted 27 February, 2020 The trouble is nobody knew about this virus two months ago, it was entirely unknown. Only now are results from studies coming out: severity increases with age, 81% of known infections can be classified as mild and 2.3% result in death. Viral shedding studies should tells us about the condition of a person in spreading the virus (no symptoms to severe). Duration of incubation period between infection and symptoms is unknown - that will help define quarantine time. Learning lessons from Ebola, SARS, MERS and avian flu there is more concerted effort to be better prepared- two weeks ago only SA and Senegal in Africa had labs that could test for the virus, now 27 countries have the test kits and are using them. All info from The Lancet - Scientists are sprinting to outpace the novel Coronavirus if anyone is interested. Yeah I’m very interested. Considering there are a number of Coronavirus’ I’m surprised there aren’t vaccines that can be modified effectively. Or is each 1 wildly different to the next?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raging Bull Posted 27 February, 2020 Share Posted 27 February, 2020 You worry about everything by the looks of it. No, not in the slightest. How have you come to that conclusion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 27 February, 2020 Share Posted 27 February, 2020 100,000 get coronavirus and everyone wants to wear a mask. 30 million have AIDS and no one wants to wear a condom I think if the Pope told everyone they’d go to Hell if they DIDN’T get Coronavirus, the infection rate would be somewhat higher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 27 February, 2020 Share Posted 27 February, 2020 Yeah I’m very interested. Considering there are a number of Coronavirus’ I’m surprised there aren’t vaccines that can be modified effectively. Or is each 1 wildly different to the next?? They must be mustn't they? Surely no one would weaponise a virus and make it almost identical to one that has a cure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctoroncall Posted 27 February, 2020 Share Posted 27 February, 2020 Yeah I’m very interested. Considering there are a number of Coronavirus’ I’m surprised there aren’t vaccines that can be modified effectively. Or is each 1 wildly different to the next?? If you know your phylogeny then this site is useful in understanding the different types and mutations: https://www.gisaid.org if you don’t this is a straightforward article: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30374-3/fulltext . Within COVID-19 there are mutations but are similar in type as seen here - http://www.gisaid.org/epiflu-applications/next-sars-cov2-app You’ll see bat and pangolin are noted but all infections listed are human to human. If you want latest numbers - http://www.gisaid.org/epiflu-applications/global-cases-covid-19/ Hope that is of interest to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 27 February, 2020 Share Posted 27 February, 2020 They must be mustn't they? Surely no one would weaponise a virus and make it almost identical to one that has a cure! Unless they owned the patent to the cure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 27 February, 2020 Share Posted 27 February, 2020 I see that old leftie twt Jon Snow is self isolating. Shame it isn’t 2 years as opposed to 2 weeks. So is our Prime Minister, it would appear, although it could just be laziness and fear of the public. I had an urgent translation to do this afternoon for a sporting event: amongst the contents were a new media regime, interviewers keeping 1.5 metres of more from the athletes, no hand shaking, boom microphones or changing microphone covers after each interview, separation of participants and their teams etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 28 February, 2020 Share Posted 28 February, 2020 So is our Prime Minister, it would appear, although it could just be laziness and fear of the public. I had an urgent translation to do this afternoon for a sporting event: amongst the contents were a new media regime, interviewers keeping 1.5 metres of more from the athletes, no hand shaking, boom microphones or changing microphone covers after each interview, separation of participants and their teams etc. And yet one sneeze and all this pointless precautions go out of the window!!! https://www.sciencefocus.com/the-human-body/how-far-do-coughs-and-sneezes-travel/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 28 February, 2020 Share Posted 28 February, 2020 strange few months. first Trump was going to kill us all in WW3 Then it was climate change Now this virus Greta is visiting Bristol, I am sure she will ensure her cause is bumped up the new agenda!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raging Bull Posted 28 February, 2020 Share Posted 28 February, 2020 I guess a world wide recession is highly likely now. I’m having to buy production items from America now at 3x the price of China. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 28 February, 2020 Share Posted 28 February, 2020 strange few months. first Trump was going to kill us all in WW3 Then it was climate change Now this virus Greta is visiting Bristol, I am sure she will ensure her cause is bumped up the new agenda!! Get off your arse and do something or sit behind your keyboard and snipe. Not really a strange few months at all, just same old same old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 28 February, 2020 Share Posted 28 February, 2020 I guess a world wide recession is highly likely now. I’m having to buy production items from America now at 3x the price of China. Question. Are they alternatives manufactured in the US or simply Chinese made previously imported stock which is being sold at an inflated price? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raging Bull Posted 28 February, 2020 Share Posted 28 February, 2020 100% the latter for what I need, why’s that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raging Bull Posted 28 February, 2020 Share Posted 28 February, 2020 I don’t particularly agree with what they’re doing but I don’t really blame them. They can almost name their price. Our factories are saying they’re running at at least a 3 month backlog when they allowed to start up again. If indeed they’re still in business by then. It’s all a bit sad for them really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 28 February, 2020 Share Posted 28 February, 2020 100% the latter for what I need, why’s that? I just wondered whether other producers could quickly up production to fill gaps, or its a serious supply problem with major implications. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raging Bull Posted 28 February, 2020 Share Posted 28 February, 2020 I just wondered whether other producers could quickly up production to fill gaps, or its a serious supply problem with major implications. Some possibly could fill the gaps to a much smaller degree but the Chinese factories are much better at mass production. This is a major issue. Roughly 300 million workers have been told to stay at home! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raging Bull Posted 28 February, 2020 Share Posted 28 February, 2020 That 300 million figure comes from my sourcing agent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyinthesky Posted 28 February, 2020 Share Posted 28 February, 2020 I guess there is a moral dilemma for quite a few here who may think they have symptoms of corona virus. If you were self employed, or your employer wouldnt pay you for 2 weeks self isolation, would you go into work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 28 February, 2020 Share Posted 28 February, 2020 Some possibly could fill the gaps to a much smaller degree but the Chinese factories are much better at mass production. This is a major issue. Roughly 300 million workers have been told to stay at home! Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plastic Posted 28 February, 2020 Share Posted 28 February, 2020 We are also having significant issues sourcing IT hardware. Dell are telling us there is a 3 month minimum wait on some components, similar with HP. The only option for a quick turn around at the moment is to buy pre-stocked or grey market items. This problem is only going to get worse, as the quoted minimum 3 month lead time basically means they have no idea when supplies will return to normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Bognor Posted 28 February, 2020 Share Posted 28 February, 2020 It's all okay, it's just like the flu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 28 February, 2020 Share Posted 28 February, 2020 It's all okay, it's just like the flu Apparently a 'mild illness' in four out of five people according to the BBC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 28 February, 2020 Share Posted 28 February, 2020 Yeah I’m very interested. Considering there are a number of Coronavirus’ I’m surprised there aren’t vaccines that can be modified effectively. Or is each 1 wildly different to the next?? My understanding is coronavirus vaccine development fell down the priority list somewhat after SARS fell away. That's where governments need to intervene and have a bit of forward thinking, but that's by the by. The coronaviruses share a lot of structure, but you still need to do the research to understand what will raise effective immunity, without side effects. For that you need a good understanding of the main protein structures etc of this particular virus! And for that you need the research (see above). Viruses can have a pretty fast mutation rate also and just little changes can mean the immune system is evaded or not as good at responding. Our immune seveillance is very specific (which is good). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 28 February, 2020 Share Posted 28 February, 2020 100,000 get coronavirus and everyone wants to wear a mask. 30 million have AIDS and no one wants to wear a condom Shame your Dad didn't wear one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 28 February, 2020 Share Posted 28 February, 2020 The EPL need to act fast and do the right thing NOW Cancel all remaining fixtures and call this season void! No league title for LiVARpool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 28 February, 2020 Share Posted 28 February, 2020 Not too sure this'll work... Sent from my SM-G975F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 29 February, 2020 Share Posted 29 February, 2020 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-8060041/Southampton-boss-Ralph-Hasenhuttl-bans-shaking-hands-autographs-fan-selfies-coronavirus.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raging Bull Posted 29 February, 2020 Share Posted 29 February, 2020 They’ve also been banned from getting too close to the opposition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 29 February, 2020 Share Posted 29 February, 2020 They’ve also been banned from getting too close to the opposition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 1 March, 2020 Author Share Posted 1 March, 2020 Waiting in an airport. Do all these people wearing masks think they are going to survive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets B Avenue Posted 1 March, 2020 Share Posted 1 March, 2020 Waiting in an airport. Do all these people wearing masks think they are going to survive? If the cabin depressurizes and the plane's air masks come down, which one goes on top? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 1 March, 2020 Share Posted 1 March, 2020 Some possibly could fill the gaps to a much smaller degree but the Chinese factories are much better at mass production. This is a major issue. Roughly 300 million workers have been told to stay at home! All part of God's plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 1 March, 2020 Share Posted 1 March, 2020 Waiting in an airport. Do all these people wearing masks think they are going to survive? Solidarity, innit. #memasktoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raging Bull Posted 1 March, 2020 Share Posted 1 March, 2020 All part of God's plan. What a strange response Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 2 March, 2020 Share Posted 2 March, 2020 All part of God's plan. What a strange response It is a phrase uttered by many about their 'kind and loving' deity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 2 March, 2020 Share Posted 2 March, 2020 It is a phrase uttered by many about their 'kind and loving' deityGod already knew you were going to say that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 2 March, 2020 Share Posted 2 March, 2020 God already knew you were going to say that. God planned for him to say it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 2 March, 2020 Author Share Posted 2 March, 2020 God already knew you were going to say that. He tries to turn every thread about his Lord. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 2 March, 2020 Share Posted 2 March, 2020 He tries to turn every thread about his Lord.I reckon he's like a white supremacist who rails against the gays and then is found with a rent boy. I bet he's posting from a monastery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Bognor Posted 2 March, 2020 Share Posted 2 March, 2020 Shame your Dad didn't wear one. As my Dad once said... "Haters don't hate you. They hate themselves. Because you're a reflection of what they want to be" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raging Bull Posted 2 March, 2020 Share Posted 2 March, 2020 It is a phrase uttered by many about their 'kind and loving' deity Oh come on now duckie, this is getting a little strange. Plus we’ve been through this a number of times and I’m certainly not gonna take this thread off topic, even if you want to. You are particularly obsessed about this though. #obssesedwithGod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandwichsaint Posted 2 March, 2020 Share Posted 2 March, 2020 If the cabin depressurizes and the plane's air masks come down, which one goes on top? Prob best to give the oxygen mask a miss if you don't know who's worn it before you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 3 March, 2020 Share Posted 3 March, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 4 March, 2020 Share Posted 4 March, 2020 Highly informative (if somewhat morbid) link: https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6 Of particular interest is that of the 240cases that have run their course in Italy to date, 80 have died, 160 survived. Similar ratio's exist in France with 4 dead and 12 having survived so far. Whilst that's a worst case based probably on those with other health complications sadly unable to cope with the added immune stress, its still a rather alarming rate for developed countries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 4 March, 2020 Share Posted 4 March, 2020 Highly informative (if somewhat morbid) link: https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6 Of particular interest is that of the 240cases that have run their course in Italy to date, 80 have died, 160 survived. Similar ratio's exist in France with 4 dead and 12 having survived so far. Whilst that's a worst case based probably on those with other health complications sadly unable to cope with the added immune stress, its still a rather alarming rate for developed countries. Interesting, thanks. Difficult at this stage to put figures to the probabilities. France for instance has 4 dead and 12 recovered out of a total of 212 cases. Italy has had 2502 confirmed cases. The Netherlands have had 38 cases but as yet none have died and none have recovered. Colombia seems relatively safe so far with no cases but something else will probably get you first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 4 March, 2020 Share Posted 4 March, 2020 Colombia seems relatively safe so far with no cases but something else will probably get you first. Perhaps Marching Powder imparts enhanced immunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 4 March, 2020 Share Posted 4 March, 2020 Perhaps Marching Powder imparts enhanced immunity. More likely because they get shot before getting infected Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 4 March, 2020 Share Posted 4 March, 2020 We should all go to Winchester... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 4 March, 2020 Share Posted 4 March, 2020 We should all go to Winchester... Its not a bad hotel tbf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 4 March, 2020 Share Posted 4 March, 2020 We should all go to Winchester... Please NO. We have ppl at the train station offering masks and hand sanitiser already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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