whelk Posted 22 March, 2020 Author Share Posted 22 March, 2020 Been for a drive on Dartmoor and it’s the same in popular spots such as Venford Reservoir. We didn’t get out as you had large multi generational groups of families all over the show, the same ones who will be slating the NHS if they get their relatives seriously ill through their idiocy. The cars were tightly packed in the car parks, no way they could be 6.5 ft apart. Higher on the moors we saw ice cream vans and several pubs open with packed car parks on the Tavistock to A30 road. Backs up what Warsash Saint was seeng in the Solent coastal areas. Relatives in N Hampshire also seeing several members of other families they know in the local area separately going around Sainsbury’s and doing full shops each. I get what CB is saying about the slightly mixed messaging and it probably needed to come earlier as people can get a bit frenzied about Mother’s Day and to change behaviour needs more than 48 hours. However, no excuse for what I saw today, rows and rows of cars. I get it’s the first nice day for ages but FFS, just space it out a bit like we did and find somewhere for a stroll. 3 of us went for a walk in Forest this morning, The cars were not spaced any differently and I will 100% guarantee at no point have I caught the virus from any strangers as had no contact. We didn’t all get out of the cars at same point. Awaiting Saintsweb guidance as to whether I have sinned? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plastic Posted 22 March, 2020 Share Posted 22 March, 2020 As a mild Asthma sufferer, I was interested to know if steroid inhalers had any effect (beneficial or otherwise). This led me to the below articles, which I found informative. https://mainichi.jp/english/articles/20200317/p2a/00m/0na/026000c https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.03.11.987016v1.full Update on this... https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.wsj.com/amp/articles/doctors-try-steroids-to-treat-coronavirus-patients-against-who-counsel-11584878400 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 22 March, 2020 Share Posted 22 March, 2020 3 of us went for a walk in Forest this morning, The cars were not spaced any differently and I will 100% guarantee at no point have I caught the virus from any strangers as had no contact. We didn’t all get out of the cars at same point. Awaiting Saintsweb guidance as to whether I have sinned? Don’t be obtuse, no one is saying not to go out, and I clearly wasn’t referring to 2 or 3 cars, this was 25+ in a very small space with big families and kids running around who don’t understand. Exercise is important but with respect, parts of Dartmoor get a lot more visitors than Hampshire and this was like August. There will have been plenty of contact via the ice cream vans and certainly the pubs as perhaps people understood the PM’s request a bit differently. Their car parks were packed. It’s alright people saying ‘I’ll do what I want’ but it isn’t them that will have to clear up the mess and it’s the impact they have in others, not that they care. Clearly in some rural areas Cv is seen as an urban thing and it isn’t. Some reports that the MoD is being mobilised so that should help protect the food and essential supplies from the worst public behaviours in addition to sourcing PPE for frontline NHS staff. If the public are sensible in the main we can all enjoy the outdoors but this morning was just crazy. Hopefully people got it out of their systems, Mother’s Day etc and it was an outlier. Reports in Wales, Scotland and Cornwall suggest not so far, would be crying shame if national Parks have to close if people won’t be sensible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 22 March, 2020 Share Posted 22 March, 2020 (edited) Don’t be obtuse, no one is saying not to go out, and I clearly wasn’t referring to 2 or 3 cars, this was 25+ in a very small space with big families and kids running around who don’t understand. Exercise is important but with respect, parts of Dartmoor get a lot more visitors than Hampshire and this was like August. There will have been plenty of contact via the ice cream vans and certainly the pubs as perhaps people understood the PM’s request a bit differently. Their car parks were packed. It’s alright people saying ‘I’ll do what I want’ but it isn’t them that will have to clear up the mess and it’s the impact they have in others, not that they care. Clearly in some rural areas Cv is seen as an urban thing and it isn’t. Some reports that the MoD is being mobilised so that should help protect the food and essential supplies from the worst public behaviours in addition to sourcing PPE for frontline NHS staff. If the public are sensible in the main we can all enjoy the outdoors but this morning was just crazy. Hopefully people got it out of their systems, Mother’s Day etc and it was an outlier. Reports in Wales, Scotland and Cornwall suggest not so far, would be crying shame if national Parks have to close if people won’t be sensible. do you think the Army will be patrolling Tesco's? It is utterly staggering how thick/ignorant how many are when being asked to take a pause! Look at the state of this! what the fuk are they doing? Edited 22 March, 2020 by Batman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ooh it's a corner Posted 22 March, 2020 Share Posted 22 March, 2020 I think Nicola Sturgeon has just summed it up nicely, If your life feels like normal, perhaps you should give your head a wobble. My neighbours, who are possibly the most inconsiderate tossers on the planet, are having a mothering sunday party. full family gathering - 8-10 adults. kids running in and out, playing with neighbouring kids. It makes you so cross. Rather than advising Doctors to make the horrific decision as to who gets the best treatment and who doesn't, based on their age and fitness, we should allow Doctors to base their decision making on patient intellect. Stupid bastards that think it won't affect them, should be left in the hospital car park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Picard Posted 22 March, 2020 Share Posted 22 March, 2020 Coronavirus Mooc for those with a bit of spare time. https://www.futurelearn.com/courses/covid19-novel-coronavirus/1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 22 March, 2020 Share Posted 22 March, 2020 This gets the message across. Wash your hands like you've been chopping chillies and now want to masturbate. (Stolen from FB.) Sent from my ONEPLUS A6013 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 22 March, 2020 Share Posted 22 March, 2020 Just listened to the latest update. The next phase really requires the community to dig in for this to work! 1.5m people will told to not leave the house for the next many weeks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 22 March, 2020 Share Posted 22 March, 2020 This gets the message across. Wash your hands like you've been chopping chillies and now want to masturbate. You've never had a spicew*nk?! It's magic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 22 March, 2020 Share Posted 22 March, 2020 Sticking my fully erect wanger into a large jar of harissa was one of the greatest thrills of my life, until I fell off the counter in the kebab shop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plastic Posted 22 March, 2020 Share Posted 22 March, 2020 do you think the Army will be patrolling Tesco's? I bloody hope so. Should have been the first action after we started seeing panic buying. People will take the ‘2 milks only’ message seriously if it’s delivered from a bloke with an SA80. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rallyboy Posted 22 March, 2020 Share Posted 22 March, 2020 There's a high proportion of selfish idiots out there who are too thick to understand basic concepts. #notnews Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 22 March, 2020 Author Share Posted 22 March, 2020 do you think the Army will be patrolling Tesco's? It is utterly staggering how thick/ignorant how many are when being asked to take a pause! Look at the state of this! what the fuk are they doing? These must be people who are now restocking their existing stockpiles? Can’t believe anyone has just woken up now and doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 22 March, 2020 Author Share Posted 22 March, 2020 Sticking my fully erect wanger into a large jar of harissa was one of the greatest thrills of my life, until I fell off the counter in the kebab shop. The pandemic is making us all behave differently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 22 March, 2020 Share Posted 22 March, 2020 You've never had a spicew*nk?! It's magic! Depends whether you get Geri or Posh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 22 March, 2020 Share Posted 22 March, 2020 The pandemic is making us all behave differently Differently? Guessing you’ve never been on a night out in Crawley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 22 March, 2020 Share Posted 22 March, 2020 Differently? Guessing you’ve never been on a night out in Crawley. Crawley is to pandemics as Maidstone is to terrorism? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 22 March, 2020 Share Posted 22 March, 2020 "A 2018 survey revealed that more than 78% of Belgian couples openly practice wife swapping, a cultural trait that became common practice in the 19th century under the rule of King Leopold II." Is this right? Asking for a friend.You have to swap back at the end mate, can't get rid of her that way. Sent from my Pixel 3 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint in Paradise Posted 22 March, 2020 Share Posted 22 March, 2020 There's a high proportion of selfish idiots out there who are too thick to understand basic concepts. #notnews So far I have not heard of much behaviour like mentioned above in other posts where I live in NZ and that is something I am very pleased about. The reason being that on Monday of next week my wife is due to have a cancerous tumour removed. The longer she has to wait if it has to be postponed or even cancelled because of idiots then the more chance there will be that 1) it gets even larger and 2) the cancer will spread into other organs. We have also placed ourselves in house arrest as we don't want to risk catching a cold or the flu which again would mean a postponement. I don't mean to sound like a wimp but it's quite a stressful time at the moment and my old brain isn't as sharp as it usually is. ( Yes, yes I know it's not that brilliant in normal times. ) I honestly hope that if anyone on here, even those that dislike me, does get that virus they recover very quickly and don't pass it on to their elderly family or friends by accident. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warsash saint Posted 22 March, 2020 Share Posted 22 March, 2020 Where were you driving to? Mind your own f**ing business! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rallyboy Posted 22 March, 2020 Share Posted 22 March, 2020 All the best with that Paradise - there must be people in your position in the UK who are having their lives put under threat by the selfish madness of those people who refuse to protect the community and their own relatives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint in Paradise Posted 23 March, 2020 Share Posted 23 March, 2020 Oh dear looks like I was incorrect as the authorities seem to totally ignore any sensible guidelines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint in Paradise Posted 23 March, 2020 Share Posted 23 March, 2020 As far as I can find out this screening means filling in a form and of course 100% tell the truth 100% of the time and 100% do as they are told. Our P.M. is due to make an announcement within the next 10 minutes about whether she will raise the alert level up from the present level 2. Lots of medical people want it raised to the max of level 4 and I really really hope that she does. Thank You Rallyboy . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint in Paradise Posted 23 March, 2020 Share Posted 23 March, 2020 Well our P.M. has just said we are going to level 3 now for 48 hours and then level 4 for at least 4 weeks. Alert level 3 - restrict There's a heightened risk the disease is not contained RISK ASSESSMENT: Community transmission occurring or Multiple clusters break out RANGE OF MEASURES: Travel in areas with clusters or community transmission limited Affected educational facilities closed Mass gatherings cancelled Public venues closed (ie: libraries, museums, cinemas, food courts, gyms, pools, amusement parks) Alternative ways of working required and some non-essential businesses should close Non face-to-face primary care consultations Non acute (elective) services and procedures in hospitals deferred and healthcare staff re-prioritised Alert level 4 - eliminate It's likely that the disease is not contained RISK ASSESSMENT: Sustained and intensive transmission Widespread outbreaks RANGE OF MEASURES: People instructed to stay at home Educational facilities closed Businesses closed except for essential services (ie: supermarkets, pharmacies, clinics and lifeline utilities) Rationing of supplies and requisitioning of facilities Travel severely limited Major reprioritisation of health services MINISTRY OF HEALTH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 23 March, 2020 Share Posted 23 March, 2020 So far I have not heard of much behaviour like mentioned above in other posts where I live in NZ and that is something I am very pleased about. The reason being that on Monday of next week my wife is due to have a cancerous tumour removed. The longer she has to wait if it has to be postponed or even cancelled because of idiots then the more chance there will be that 1) it gets even larger and 2) the cancer will spread into other organs. We have also placed ourselves in house arrest as we don't want to risk catching a cold or the flu which again would mean a postponement. I don't mean to sound like a wimp but it's quite a stressful time at the moment and my old brain isn't as sharp as it usually is. ( Yes, yes I know it's not that brilliant in normal times. ) I honestly hope that if anyone on here, even those that dislike me, does get that virus they recover very quickly and don't pass it on to their elderly family or friends by accident. . Hope it all goes well. Best wishes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 23 March, 2020 Share Posted 23 March, 2020 A significant minority in this country are utter ****s. Why does the PM need to order people to stay 2 meters apart for some to actually stay 2 meters apart. Why do parents need to be ordered not to take their kids to the playground before actually not taking their kids to the playground. Weird, I want it now, don't say no to me, society we have Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rallyboy Posted 23 March, 2020 Share Posted 23 March, 2020 It's as if the population has got the idea that we are a very special country that can ignore the advice of experts, learn nothing from the experience of foreigners, and to overcome any problem, we just need to believe. If only we could trace the source of all that bonkers malarky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 23 March, 2020 Share Posted 23 March, 2020 (edited) It's as if the population has got the idea that we are a very special country that can ignore the advice of experts, learn nothing from the experience of foreigners, and to overcome any problem, we just need to believe. If only we could trace the source of all that bonkers malarky.Ultimately, most are being asked to stay the length of a normal door away from others and sit at home and watch telly for a couple of months. Not too hard is it! The struggle is real![emoji849] Just baffled why morons can't do this! Edited 23 March, 2020 by Batman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 23 March, 2020 Share Posted 23 March, 2020 A significant minority in this country are utter ****s. Why does the PM need to order people to stay 2 meters apart for some to actually stay 2 meters apart. Why do parents need to be ordered not to take their kids to the playground before actually not taking their kids to the playground. Weird, I want it now, don't say no to me, society we have I’m really hoping when this is all said and done, that it’ll change the country for the better. Hopefully everyone will appreciate what we have just a little bit more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 23 March, 2020 Share Posted 23 March, 2020 I’m really hoping when this is all said and done, that it’ll change the country for the better. Hopefully everyone will appreciate what we have just a little bit more.Agree with you there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 23 March, 2020 Share Posted 23 March, 2020 https://www.goodreads.com/work/quotes/2058116-la-peste Something to do if you're bored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwaysaint Posted 23 March, 2020 Share Posted 23 March, 2020 As something I saw on facebook said, A couple of generations back, people had to go through war, rationing, blackouts, bombing and evacuation. We have to wash our hands and sit on the sofa, yet we're somehow complaining and ****ing it up. Pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 23 March, 2020 Share Posted 23 March, 2020 As something I saw on facebook said, A couple of generations back, people had to go through war, rationing, blackouts, bombing and evacuation. We have to wash our hands and sit on the sofa, yet we're somehow complaining and ****ing it up. Pathetic.To be honest the constant comparisons with the bloody second world war are tedious and counter-productive. Not least because there isn't actually any knowledge and experience of what actually happened in the population, just heresay, folklore and facile characterisation. Forget "roll out the barrel" and start asking why the government can't just pump out text messages to every mobile user in the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwaysaint Posted 23 March, 2020 Share Posted 23 March, 2020 To be honest the constant comparisons with the bloody second world war are tedious and counter-productive. Not least because there isn't actually any knowledge and experience of what actually happened in the population, just heresay, folklore and facile characterisation. Forget "roll out the barrel" and start asking why the government can't just pump out text messages to every mobile user in the country. It's more a comment on the fact that we've been told to stay inside and wash our hands for little more than a week and it's already proving too much for many people. It's not really about wartime, more to do with a lack of the ability to rise to a pretty basic challenge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 23 March, 2020 Share Posted 23 March, 2020 It's more a comment on the fact that we've been told to stay inside and wash our hands for little more than a week and it's already proving too much for many people. It's not really about wartime, more to do with a lack of the ability to rise to a pretty basic challenge.I agree but the issue is that the Luftwaffe were a tangible conceivable threat and this isn't in the same way. There is on Twitter an excellent thread about the communication posters from the war and how they would apply now, so yes there are some lessons to learn. The biggest issue we face now is that the government comms plan is appalling, and this from the same people that rolled out a comprehensive "get ready for Brexit" campaign with no problem at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecuk268 Posted 23 March, 2020 Share Posted 23 March, 2020 Panic buying seems to be easing off. Went to Sainsburys in Portswood this morning and, while some shelves hadn't been re-stocked, there was plenty of fruit and veg, meat, bread but no loo rolls. As we were down to our last 3, I went to Costco where they had loads and were sensibly restricting it to one pack per cardholder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecuk268 Posted 23 March, 2020 Share Posted 23 March, 2020 (edited) Duplicate Edited 23 March, 2020 by ecuk268 Duplicate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 23 March, 2020 Share Posted 23 March, 2020 Panic buying seems to be easing off. Went to Sainsburys in Portswood this morning and, while some shelves hadn't been re-stocked, there was plenty of fruit and veg, meat, bread but no loo rolls. As we were down to our last 3, I went to Costco where they had loads and were sensibly restricting it to one pack per cardholder. Went to Tesco's earlier. Loads of distancing, lots of good humour, decent stock on the shelves etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 23 March, 2020 Share Posted 23 March, 2020 Read an interesting article by the founder of Leon (who are moving to home meals). He reckons half of all meals are normally taken at school or work and because of the collapse in that trade demand on supermarkets has moved from 50% of capacity to 130% of capacity in two weeks. Panic buying is only part of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 23 March, 2020 Share Posted 23 March, 2020 To be honest the constant comparisons with the bloody second world war are tedious and counter-productive. Not least because there isn't actually any knowledge and experience of what actually happened in the population, just heresay, folklore and facile characterisation. Exactly. Anyway in wartime people weren't told to stay home and pubs, cinemas and dance halls remained open Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 23 March, 2020 Share Posted 23 March, 2020 the lockdown will get even more tighter later....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickn Posted 23 March, 2020 Share Posted 23 March, 2020 Went to Tesco's earlier. Loads of distancing, lots of good humour, decent stock on the shelves etc Yes, my daughter was in Tescos at Whiteley and apart from eggs, toilet rolls and kitchen roll everything else was quite good...………….apart from the shop assistant in there who thought it a good idea to make a fuss of her 6 month old son and even started touching him!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WellingtonSaint Posted 23 March, 2020 Share Posted 23 March, 2020 Well our P.M. has just said we are going to level 3 now for 48 hours and then level 4 for at least 4 weeks. … Where are you based SiP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 23 March, 2020 Share Posted 23 March, 2020 Lockdown is coming. Maybe not tonight but Boris will update from today's COBRA meeting later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 23 March, 2020 Share Posted 23 March, 2020 Lockdown is coming. Maybe not tonight but Boris will update from today's COBRA meeting later. It has to. Remarkably, many people just don't get it. It's a shame the government have to do that but there are so many imbeciles out there it's inevitable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevvy Posted 23 March, 2020 Share Posted 23 March, 2020 So far I have not heard of much behaviour like mentioned above in other posts where I live in NZ and that is something I am very pleased about. The reason being that on Monday of next week my wife is due to have a cancerous tumour removed. The longer she has to wait if it has to be postponed or even cancelled because of idiots then the more chance there will be that 1) it gets even larger and 2) the cancer will spread into other organs. We have also placed ourselves in house arrest as we don't want to risk catching a cold or the flu which again would mean a postponement. I don't mean to sound like a wimp but it's quite a stressful time at the moment and my old brain isn't as sharp as it usually is. ( Yes, yes I know it's not that brilliant in normal times. ) I honestly hope that if anyone on here, even those that dislike me, does get that virus they recover very quickly and don't pass it on to their elderly family or friends by accident. . Best wishes, hope all goes well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 23 March, 2020 Share Posted 23 March, 2020 3 weeks lockdown! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 23 March, 2020 Share Posted 23 March, 2020 Wow Which clown said if this was a weapon, it would be a pretty feeble one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 23 March, 2020 Share Posted 23 March, 2020 That's more like it. We've shown ourselves to be a nation of divs so the decision had to be imposed on us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 23 March, 2020 Share Posted 23 March, 2020 Just watched Boris. All of us in the pub couldn't believe what we were hearing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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