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14 hours ago, LGTL said:

I'm double jabbed but have it at the moment. Luckily no more then a sniffle. Javid clearly stated we could be getting up to 100,000 cases a day, it appears the news agency either weren't listening or didn't believe him, as I can't see any other reason why this is coming as a surprise. 

My son is single jabbed and he’s just tested positive. He’s just got a sniffle and the occasional cough. 6 of them booked a table to watch the semi final and final of euros and out of the 6, 4 of them have tested positive. 

Fucking annoying he’s between houses and moved back in with us for a few days, so me & snap dragon are now having to self isolate. The snap dragons hospital is starting to grind to a halt with so many staff having to self isolate despite their test being negative. 

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33 minutes ago, whelk said:

So that was a quick u-turn when they realised how vulnerable they were to ‘one rule for us’ attack when not self-isolating. Clowns

What a shambles. They really are incredibly incompetent and out of touch at times.

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Am I the only person on this wondrous planet who would want the leader of their country to be one of the first people to be involved in a pilot such as this? Surely we want the man or lady at the top as unimpeded as possible in their endeavours to run the country and if this trial achieves that then it's common sense to involve the PM, along with all the other key public service personnel that were also included, isn't it? Or maybe I'm being naïve and the  country should indeed be run in accordance with the prevailing grievances of the Twitter mob?

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As somebody who is in the middle of a 10 day quarantine, who has been double jabbed & got a negative test back Friday, it’s a fucking piss take if the people imposing this bypass the requirement. It’ll make me think twice if it happens again. 

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2 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

As somebody who is in the middle of a 10 day quarantine, who has been double jabbed & got a negative test back Friday, it’s a fucking piss take if the people imposing this bypass the requirement. It’ll make me think twice if it happens again. 

Yes. It has all got out of hand and out of control. As long as the numbers of deaths isn’t too dramatic then just carry on with our lives and don’t look at the numbers.

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57 minutes ago, trousers said:

Am I the only person on this wondrous planet who would want the leader of their country to be one of the first people to be involved in a pilot such as this? Surely we want the man or lady at the top as unimpeded as possible in their endeavours to run the country and if this trial achieves that then it's common sense to involve the PM, along with all the other key public service personnel that were also included, isn't it? Or maybe I'm being naïve and the  country should indeed be run in accordance with the prevailing grievances of the Twitter mob?

They. love the likes of you. No need for principles or integrity at the top as won’t be held to account. The fact Johnson may miss a few photo opportunities won’t matter one jot in running the country. Do you care if Hancock’’s mates get dished out contracts? No? Thought  not,.

 

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31 minutes ago, whelk said:

They. love the likes of you. No need for principles or integrity at the top as won’t be held to account. The fact Johnson may miss a few photo opportunities won’t matter one jot in running the country. Do you care if Hancock’’s mates get dished out contracts? No? Thought  not,.

 

I think you're mistaking me for someone with a high enough IQ to engage with someone of your superior intellect on an internet football forum. 

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23 minutes ago, trousers said:

I think you're mistaking me for someone with a high enough IQ to engage with someone of your superior intellect on an internet football forum. 

You always post that when you've been called out on posting something inane you cant justify. 

Just a reminder. The whole idea of the Parliamentary system is that our 'representatives' understand what the lives of citizens are like. Unless you're advocating the Soviet system of special traffic lanes, invitation only shops, separate schools and hospitals.    

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Whilst it's entirely correct that they should be isolating - as per the current rules - does this raise a question about the validity / accuracy of the rules?

We know Johnson has previously had Covid, who could forget him in hospital!  Worldwide, there have been very limited reports of people catching the virus twice, so it's extremely unlikely that Johnson will catch the virus again, so should he have to isolate?

Before whelk jumps in with one of his classic quotes about the Government 'loving the likes of us', I'd extend the question to EVERYONE who has had a positive covid test before and ask should ANYONE who has had the virus have to isolate if they are 'pinged' / come into contact with an infected person?

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It feels like the vaccine is worth very little. They are saying reason behind French amber plus rules is because they AZ vaccine  is not very effective against the South African (beta?). This wasn’t what was thought by many as ‘Freedom Day’ 

Still as crap as this govt is the Labour response is more annoying. Ashworth epitomises the weak health and safety nurd.

don’t know how effective the Track and Trace is at this stage although LD’s locals in his boozer might be enjoying the peace and quiet

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4 hours ago, trousers said:

Am I the only person on this wondrous planet who would want the leader of their country to be one of the first people to be involved in a pilot such as this? Surely we want the man or lady at the top as unimpeded as possible in their endeavours to run the country and if this trial achieves that then it's common sense to involve the PM, along with all the other key public service personnel that were also included, isn't it? Or maybe I'm being naïve and the  country should indeed be run in accordance with the prevailing grievances of the Twitter mob?

Think it is more important they set an example TBH.

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26 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said:

Whilst it's entirely correct that they should be isolating - as per the current rules - does this raise a question about the validity / accuracy of the rules?

We know Johnson has previously had Covid, who could forget him in hospital!  Worldwide, there have been very limited reports of people catching the virus twice, so it's extremely unlikely that Johnson will catch the virus again, so should he have to isolate?

Before whelk jumps in with one of his classic quotes about the Government 'loving the likes of us', I'd extend the question to EVERYONE who has had a positive covid test before and ask should ANYONE who has had the virus have to isolate if they are 'pinged' / come into contact with an infected person?

I don’t think that the current system works in an environment of high vaccinations and widespread recovered people. What’s the point of isolation for these categories just because they might have come into contact with a possibly infected person?

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32 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said:

Whilst it's entirely correct that they should be isolating - as per the current rules - does this raise a question about the validity / accuracy of the rules?

We know Johnson has previously had Covid, who could forget him in hospital!  Worldwide, there have been very limited reports of people catching the virus twice, so it's extremely unlikely that Johnson will catch the virus again, so should he have to isolate?

Before whelk jumps in with one of his classic quotes about the Government 'loving the likes of us', I'd extend the question to EVERYONE who has had a positive covid test before and ask should ANYONE who has had the virus have to isolate if they are 'pinged' / come into contact with an infected person?

I haven’t seen data on people contracting twice but anecdotally heard of  quite a few cases. One poor sod even had two variants at same time.

Tired of saying it but more detail on hospitalisation cases would be useful. Vaccine level, BMI and any other health issues 

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4 hours ago, trousers said:

Am I the only person on this wondrous planet who would want the leader of their country to be one of the first people to be involved in a pilot such as this? Surely we want the man or lady at the top as unimpeded as possible in their endeavours to run the country and if this trial achieves that then it's common sense to involve the PM, along with all the other key public service personnel that were also included, isn't it? Or maybe I'm being naïve and the  country should indeed be run in accordance with the prevailing grievances of the Twitter mob?

I thought the country was being run by The Prime Minister, the Health Secretary and, you know, the government.

Are you saying all those employees forced to isolate and all those businesses running at reduced hours, or with skeleton staff or with depleting stocks - they're only doing the whole isolation thing because of "the prevailing grievances of the twitter mob"? They're only fucking their own businesses over because of people on twitter?

You sure about that?

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2 hours ago, buctootim said:

You always post that when you've been called out on posting something inane you cant justify. 

Well remembered that man... It's a fair cop. I'll figure out a new way of ducking out of futile discussions on an internet football forum in future ;)

 

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1 minute ago, trousers said:

Well remembered that man... It's a fair cop. I'll figure out a new way of ducking out of futile discussions on an internet football forum in future ;)

 

Then you say that - why bother? If you don't value a discussion don't contribute rather posting the same three repetitive oh so funny even after the 800th time photos  

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Just now, buctootim said:

Then you say that - why bother? If you don't value a discussion don't contribute rather posting the same three repetitive oh so funny even after the 800th time photos  

It's 837 to be precise, but fair point. 

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4 hours ago, CB Fry said:

I thought the country was being run by The Prime Minister, the Health Secretary and, you know, the government.

Are you saying all those employees forced to isolate and all those businesses running at reduced hours, or with skeleton staff or with depleting stocks - they're only doing the whole isolation thing because of "the prevailing grievances of the twitter mob"? They're only fucking their own businesses over because of people on twitter?

You sure about that?

There are reports of people calling in ‘pinged’ so that they can have a few days off in the nice weather. Is there any way that an employer could check?

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12 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said:

There are reports of people calling in ‘pinged’ so that they can have a few days off in the nice weather. Is there any way that an employer could check?

Tell them to screen shot the app telling them they need to self-isolate

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Snap dragon got a call this morning. She can come back to work as she’s doubled jabbed & has a negative PCR. They’re spending a fortune on bank staff and incentives to do ot, so  they’re now calling in  every single member of staff who is self isolating to get them back in. 
 

Clearly it’s not going to be long before it’s going to apply to the general public as well as NHS staff. Sensible move IMO. 

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If they just consulted Tony Blair on their decisions it would make a massive improvement. Starting to like Dominic Cummings now as well although reduced what little confidence I had in their competency. 

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A bit like Toyko/Japan it seems to me these countries who have obsessively kept their numbers ultra-low are still in a position where they are paralysed by fear.

I'll admit I'm not that close to the details but it's difficult to see the benefits of this approach if the societal net result is the same - ever rolling on lockdown and restrictions, and no one can do anything anyway.

 

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2 hours ago, CB Fry said:

A bit like Toyko/Japan it seems to me these countries who have obsessively kept their numbers ultra-low are still in a position where they are paralysed by fear.

I'll admit I'm not that close to the details but it's difficult to see the benefits of this approach if the societal net result is the same - ever rolling on lockdown and restrictions, and no one can do anything anyway.

 

'cking hell. An almost full lock down in some towns for 1 death and 111 cases. Mental.

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