Coronavirus

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Just now, Weston Super Saint said:

Victims of their own hide and seek successes?

 

Yes, absolutely. To be fair, I saw hide and seek as our solution back then and others pointed out that to be unsustainable. They were right. Normality had/has to resume. 

[CB Fry]

46 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said:

???

From the article posted:

 

Whatever - the point is Japan has restricted those available to administer vaccine in a way we haven't. 

[whelk]

Anyone know why Southampton is 18% below national level on both first and second jabs?

 

[whelk]

ICUs seem to be coping though 

 

[revolution saint]

29 minutes ago, whelk said:

Anyone know why Southampton is 18% below national level on both first and second jabs?

 

They did a bit on the "More or Less" podcast with a bloke asking the same question about Oxford.  One of the reasons why is that students register with a Southampton GP and forget to tell them they've gone home.  I would suspect that Southampton probably has a below average age demographic compared to the national average so you'd expect vaccination % to be lower on that count too.  If you look at most cities they tend to be lagging behind the national average.

[benjii]

Anecdotal but...

.... one of the reasons why saying restrictions should be removed because ICU cases are not high misses the bigger picture. 

[CollinsDic]

All utter nonsense. It is all totally normal, what is going on. Ignore this guy and the hundreds of others who say similar.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/WxixVQIrolk7/?fbclid=IwAR33r7u6QsZe0OxX69a3w3bv2K0KBd_MbcCfJJBLjrBJDJBiRdsyM1AaMuw

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5 hours ago, benjii said:

Anecdotal but...

.... one of the reasons why saying restrictions should be removed because ICU cases are not high misses the bigger picture. 

Yep. Too many people have focused/are focusing on deaths and hospital admissions, but don't think what some people who've never been admitted to hospital have to live with.

I know  people with long covid. A youngster at work has two friends early/mid 20's with it - 1 is an elite athlete who still gets breathless walking 50 feet a year on, and the other is doing slightly better but not much.

[whelk]

2 hours ago, egg said:

Yep. Too many people have focused/are focusing on deaths and hospital admissions, but don't think what some people who've never been admitted to hospital have to live with.

I know  people with long covid. A youngster at work has two friends early/mid 20's with it - 1 is an elite athlete who still gets breathless walking 50 feet a year on, and the other is doing slightly better but not much.

Presumably long Covid is far less likely if been vaccinated?

[whelk]

Also are there many cases of  long Covid ending after a lengthy time? Presumably doesn’t last forever?

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1 hour ago, whelk said:

Presumably long Covid is far less likely if been vaccinated?

 

1 hour ago, whelk said:

Also are there many cases of  long Covid ending after a lengthy time? Presumably doesn’t last forever?

No idea on both. You've gotta hope that double jabbing will seriously reduce the risk of long covid though. I know of 3 double jabbed people who've tested positive recently so it's definitely getting about. One describes it as like being hungover but he's hungover most days so it's not an issue for him, the other 2 say it's like the vaccine was but less severe. It's hard to know, but at least 2 of them were candidates for proper illness if they hadn't been jabbed. 

[Whitey Grandad]

3 hours ago, whelk said:

Presumably long Covid is far less likely if been vaccinated?

Some anecdotal stories saying that vaccination ‘cures’ long Covid. If such a thing actually exists.

[badgerx16]

39 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said:

Some anecdotal stories saying that vaccination ‘cures’ long Covid. If such a thing actually exists.

It does.

[Dimond Geezer]

2 hours ago, egg said:

 I know of 3 double jabbed people who've tested positive recently so it's definitely getting about.

I've was double jabbed in May, tested +ve on Monday, my god, Sunday to mid Tuesday was the worst I've ever felt, never had a flu come close to it. Absolutely fine now, apart from a croaky voice, and and slight cough. Over those 3 days I lost 9lbs in weight, so every cloud and all that, needed to lose a stone, so had most of the leg work done for me 👍. To be serious though, I  really can't get my head round those anti-vaxer freaks, I  dread the outcome if I hadn't been jabbed.  I now have to ride out the rest of my self isolation, with fingers crossed.

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2 hours ago, Whitey Grandad said:

Some anecdotal stories saying that vaccination ‘cures’ long Covid. If such a thing actually exists.

FFS. You've been reading too much Collinsdic mate. 

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1 hour ago, Dimond Geezer said:

I've was double jabbed in May, tested +ve on Monday, my god, Sunday to mid Tuesday was the worst I've ever felt, never had a flu come close to it. Absolutely fine now, apart from a croaky voice, and and slight cough. Over those 3 days I lost 9lbs in weight, so every cloud and all that, needed to lose a stone, so had most of the leg work done for me 👍. To be serious though, I  really can't get my head round those anti-vaxer freaks, I  dread the outcome if I hadn't been jabbed.  I now have to ride out the rest of my self isolation, with fingers crossed.

Jeez, sounds rough and I'm glad that you're on the mend mate. 

[CB Fry]

2 hours ago, Whitey Grandad said:

Some anecdotal stories saying that vaccination ‘cures’ long Covid. If such a thing actually exists.

I've heard one of the main symptoms of Long Covid is that you can't catch a single case of the common cold for an entire decade.

Edited 14 July, 2021 by CB Fry

[RedArmy]

Looks like Macron drew the short* straw at the G7 summit and had to go first with vaccine passports. 
 

*no pun intended. 

[Patrick Bateman]

10 hours ago, CollinsDic said:

All utter nonsense. It is all totally normal, what is going on. Ignore this guy and the hundreds of others who say similar.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/WxixVQIrolk7/?fbclid=IwAR33r7u6QsZe0OxX69a3w3bv2K0KBd_MbcCfJJBLjrBJDJBiRdsyM1AaMuw

Is this CollinsDic "character" posting, a bot? 

Edited 14 July, 2021 by Patrick Bateman

[CB Fry]

14 minutes ago, Patrick Bateman said:

Is this CollinsDick "character" posting a bot? 

I don't think it has ever posted anything on any topic other than Covid-19.

So we have yet to hear its views on whether Vestergaard is off to Tottenham or not.

[CollinsDic]

6 hours ago, CB Fry said:

I don't think it has ever posted anything on any topic other than Covid-19.

So we have yet to hear its views on whether Vestergaard is off to Tottenham or not.

I have posted on the football forum also. This is what response I get from people with heads in sand. Deflect, ignore, abuse. Fact is, there is more going on here than meets your eyes, but you are totally unwilling to accept anything other than the TV news.

 

[CB Fry]

39 minutes ago, CollinsDic said:

I have posted on the football forum also. This is what response I get from people with heads in sand. Deflect, ignore, abuse. Fact is, there is more going on here than meets your eyes, but you are totally unwilling to accept anything other than the TV news.

 

I. Have. Also. Posted. About. Your. Human. Pastime. Of. Foot. Ball.

[CollinsDic]

1 hour ago, CB Fry said:

I. Have. Also. Posted. About. Your. Human. Pastime. Of. Foot. Ball.

Yep, that's about your limit of understanding. Keep yourself glued to the Telly for further updates on the scamdemic.

[jawillwill]

29 minutes ago, CollinsDic said:

Yep, that's about your limit of understanding. Keep yourself glued to the Telly for further updates on the scamdemic.

Seriously though, do you think Jannik will be off this summer? If he is, will we be able to survive without him?

[CB Fry]

1 hour ago, CollinsDic said:

Yep, that's about your limit of understanding. Keep yourself glued to the Telly for further updates on the scamdemic.

What was the first Saints match you saw?

[badgerx16]

3 hours ago, CollinsDic said:

Yep, that's about your limit of understanding. Keep yourself glued to the Telly for further updates on the scamdemic.

So, as you have been asked previously, what do you think is killing all those people around the World if the whole thing is a scam ? Are they all "fake" deaths ?

[jawillwill]

16 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

So, as you have been asked previously, what do you think is killing all those people around the World if the whole thing is a scam ? Are they all "fake" deaths ?

DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH. ITS ALL OUT THERE! OPEN YOUR EYES SHEEP! 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Plastic]

4 hours ago, CollinsDic said:

Yep, that's about your limit of understanding. Keep yourself glued to the Telly for further updates on the scamdemic.

Hello my friend. I have been reading this thread but I cant seem to find a post detailing your specific views and the reasoning behind them. Would you be able to set them out in a calm coherent fashion so that I can review your points? Thank you.

[Trout-Tickler]

On 14/07/2021 at 12:50, CollinsDic said:

All utter nonsense. It is all totally normal, what is going on. Ignore this guy and the hundreds of others who say similar.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/WxixVQIrolk7/?fbclid=IwAR33r7u6QsZe0OxX69a3w3bv2K0KBd_MbcCfJJBLjrBJDJBiRdsyM1AaMuw

Ah, good old Dr Peter McCullough, if ever there was a turd that won't flush it's him. Let's not forget he published an article in a journal he himself is editor in chief of which backed the use of hydroxychloroquine in the treatment of Covid-19 despite there being no conclusive evidence that the drug reduced either the severity of illness or prevented death. He has so little credibility that if he told me the sky was blue I'd have to go out and check myself!

[CollinsDic]

3 hours ago, badgerx16 said:

So, as you have been asked previously, what do you think is killing all those people around the World if the whole thing is a scam ? Are they all "fake" deaths ?

Covid 19, is a Flu Virus. This is why if you dig deep and check FACTS you will find flu deaths in the last 18 months have virtually disappeared. Ask yourself a very simple question. Cigarettes are proven factually to kill, many more than Covid ever will. So why would a caring government (who locks you in your home for your own ell being) allow people to smoke? I await your simplistic answers about tax and income, while missing the point entirely.

 

PS. for the other ostrich who asked, my first game was vs Bolton at the Dell, December 29 1979. We won 2-0. I was in the west stand bench seats with my dad. I had a season ticket until 1995. Many thanks for asking.

[badgerx16]

23 minutes ago, CollinsDic said:

Covid 19, is a Flu Virus. This is why if you dig deep and check FACTS ......

 

 

Covid-19 is NOT a flu virus. So much for your checking of FACTS.

[edprice1984]

20 minutes ago, CollinsDic said:

Covid 19, is a Flu Virus. This is why if you dig deep and check FACTS you will find flu deaths in the last 18 months have virtually disappeared. Ask yourself a very simple question. Cigarettes are proven factually to kill, many more than Covid ever will. So why would a caring government (who locks you in your home for your own ell being) allow people to smoke? I await your simplistic answers about tax and income, while missing the point entirely.

 

PS. for the other ostrich who asked, my first game was vs Bolton at the Dell, December 29 1979. We won 2-0. I was in the west stand bench seats with my dad. I had a season ticket until 1995. Many thanks for asking.

Covid isn't a Flu virus. That is a basic fact. They are similar in some of their symptoms and that they are respiratory illnesses, but they are genetically different.

The reason why Flu deaths have virtually disappeared is because the majority of people in the UK were either in some sort of lockdown, while a large proportion of the vulnerable people who would normally have died from flu (ie, elderly, people with severe underlying conditions etc) either had already died from COVID or were isolating/shielding. 

Yes, more people have died and will die from smoking related illnesses; or from alcohol and its effects. I also don't necessarily disagree that it is bizarre that Governments haven't banned smoking for example, but your sarcastic remark about the taxation benefits from cigarettes and tobacco aren't actually that far from the mark. 

 

 

[jawillwill]

35 minutes ago, CollinsDic said:

Covid 19, is a Flu Virus. This is why if you dig deep and check FACTS...

Bloody hell, you've had 18 months to check your facts yet you don't know that it is, undisputedly, not a flu virus.

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3 hours ago, badgerx16 said:

Covid-19 is NOT a flu virus. So much for your checking of FACTS.

I think (?) his point is that covid isn't a thing at all, and that every covid death is in fact a flu death. I think. 

[badgerx16]

44 minutes ago, egg said:

I think (?) his point is that covid isn't a thing at all, and that every covid death is in fact a flu death. I think. 

I thought it was that everybody that is supposed to have died from Covid has actually been killed by the World's Governments because of the need to reduce the size of the Global population, and that they have used a particularly virulent strain of influenza to acheive this.

[Doctoroncall]

7 hours ago, Trout-Tickler said:

Ah, good old Dr Peter McCullough, if ever there was a turd that won't flush it's him. Let's not forget he published an article in a journal he himself is editor in chief of which backed the use of hydroxychloroquine in the treatment of Covid-19 despite there being no conclusive evidence that the drug reduced either the severity of illness or prevented death. He has so little credibility that if he told me the sky was blue I'd have to go out and check myself!

https://healthfeedback.org/claimreview/vaccines-are-a-safer-alternative-for-acquiring-immunity-compared-to-natural-infection-and-covid-19-survivors-benefit-from-getting-vaccinated-contrary-to-claims-by-peter-mccullough/

[CollinsDic]

Yep. As expected, it is too much for 99% of you. But no worries, it is your life. Believe your own things and die your own way. Cool with me.

[CollinsDic]

16 hours ago, edprice1984 said:

Covid isn't a Flu virus. That is a basic fact. They are similar in some of their symptoms and that they are respiratory illnesses, but they are genetically different.

The reason why Flu deaths have virtually disappeared is because the majority of people in the UK were either in some sort of lockdown, while a large proportion of the vulnerable people who would normally have died from flu (ie, elderly, people with severe underlying conditions etc) either had already died from COVID or were isolating/shielding. 

Yes, more people have died and will die from smoking related illnesses; or from alcohol and its effects. I also don't necessarily disagree that it is bizarre that Governments haven't banned smoking for example, but your sarcastic remark about the taxation benefits from cigarettes and tobacco aren't actually that far from the mark. 

 

 

You really cannot bring yourself to see it can you. But hey ho, never thee mind. Let's wait and see who is right in a few years huh.

[trousers]

Chomp chomp chomp

[whelk]

53 minutes ago, CollinsDic said:

Yep. As expected, it is too much for 99% of you. But no worries, it is your life. Believe your own things and die your own way. Cool with me.

Pretty sure a thick fucker like you will die before me. Annoyingly some resource will be wasted on you. 
 

Although never know I may sail too far out to sea and fall off earth.

Edited 16 July, 2021 by whelk

[AlexLaw76]

This is getting even more weird by the day.  Talk of more lockdowns, yet deaths are so low, it is hardly news.

We were told that vaccines were the winner.  They are clearly working, so why are we talking of more lockdowns?

[badgerx16]

1 minute ago, AlexLaw76 said:

This is getting even more weird by the day.  Talk of more lockdowns, yet deaths are so low, it is hardly news.

We were told that vaccines were the winner.  They are clearly working, so why are we talking of more lockdowns?

ÇollinsDic - would you care to answer ?

[Doctoroncall]

3 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

This is getting even more weird by the day.  Talk of more lockdowns, yet deaths are so low, it is hardly news.

We were told that vaccines were the winner.  They are clearly working, so why are we talking of more lockdowns?

I’m not the font of all knowledge (or belief) like Colin so take this a conspiracy theory. 
 

Since the emergence of the Delta variant which is highly infectious and the relaxing of rules either by the government, organisations or personal responsibility the virus has spread dramatically. Fortunately a high proportion of people have been vaccinated but that doesn’t stop those vaccinated from catching it and spreading it. More people need to be vaccinated to help reduce the number of hospitalisations and deaths which the vaccine has been shown can help reduce. End of conspiracy theory. 

[Whitey Grandad]

28 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

This is getting even more weird by the day.  Talk of more lockdowns, yet deaths are so low, it is hardly news.

We were told that vaccines were the winner.  They are clearly working, so why are we talking of more lockdowns?

What is the aim of all this? We can’t control the virus and all that lockdowns do is spread it out over a longer period. Nobody would even dream of suggesting a lockdown if this were a flu epidemic with the current number of deaths. There must be vested interests somewhere. 
 

Get as many people as possible vaccinated or infected as quickly as possible. And please don’t talk about Long Covid because such we just have to live with it all. The reported effects are relatively minor and not necessarily down to post viral fatigue. Prolonged lockdown cause many of the same symptoms.

[Turkish]

8 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said:

This is getting even more weird by the day.  Talk of more lockdowns, yet deaths are so low, it is hardly news.

We were told that vaccines were the winner.  They are clearly working, so why are we talking of more lockdowns?

Another lock down possible within weeks Witty is saying. So vaccines aren’t our way out of this then 

[LGTL]

I'm double jabbed but have it at the moment. Luckily no more then a sniffle. Javid clearly stated we could be getting up to 100,000 cases a day, it appears the news agency either weren't listening or didn't believe him, as I can't see any other reason why this is coming as a surprise. 

[Turkish]

10 minutes ago, LGTL said:

I'm double jabbed but have it at the moment. Luckily no more then a sniffle. Javid clearly stated we could be getting up to 100,000 cases a day, it appears the news agency either weren't listening or didn't believe him, as I can't see any other reason why this is coming as a surprise. 

I know quite a few who’ve had it in the last couple of weeks similar to what youve got. If it’s going to be 100,000 people getting little more than a cold for a few days which is wha it’s seems to be a lock down would be nonsensical 

[Plastic]

13 hours ago, Turkish said:

I know quite a few who’ve had it in the last couple of weeks similar to what youve got. If it’s going to be 100,000 people getting little more than a cold for a few days which is wha it’s seems to be a lock down would be nonsensical 

Yes but a decent proportion of those will be anti-vax types who require exponentially more care and cost. Refusers should pay for their care costs IMO. Society requires compromise for it to function.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/stories-57866661

 

[CollinsDic]

On 15/07/2021 at 22:09, badgerx16 said:

Covid-19 is NOT a flu virus. So much for your checking of FACTS.

Here we go again. Blinkered to believing what your masters say. 

[Plastic]

7 minutes ago, CollinsDic said:

Here we go again. Blinkered to believing what your masters say. 

But our masters have had the vaccine too, have they doomed themselves?  😢 

Collin’s progeny will inherit the Earth.

 

Edited 17 July, 2021 by Plastic