Coronavirus

[LenPa]

Sorry if I overlooked it but how do you think about the thing that Germans/Austrians may will not come to the game as they have to go to quarantine when they will travel back (do not have to become a political discussion but just general thoughts)? Find it quite interesting with the different amount of fans in the different countries hosting games.

[Weston Super Saint]

5 hours ago, CB Fry said:

I don't need to "find things" that I have already replied to you about, and other people have already seen and laughed at you about.

It really landed, didn't it? Look, if it makes things better, I'm truly sorry for hurting you. 

Forgive me x

#triggered

[Antrimsaint]

On 25/06/2021 at 09:24, badgerx16 said:

Apparently some UK Olympic athletes don't want the vaccine. It can't be because they're afraid of needles. 😉

👏

[trousers]

Hancock gone. 

 

 

Edited 26 June, 2021 by trousers

[The Cat]

Had to happen really.

Good riddance, he's an absolute cretin.

[CB Fry]

bUt hE diDN't bReAk tHe LaW 

[trousers]

Does this mean the self-appointed social media intelligentsia will now turn their attention to the arguably more important matter of pondering how such a security breach in the heart of government was possible in the first place?

[Antrimsaint]

About bloody time one of those Tory cretins went. What a corrupt bunch they are.

Please don’t let it distract from Harding trying to ruin the NHS

[Baird of the land]

Disappointed not to get another laughable excuse(ala cummings) such as Hancock claiming he was worried he was losing his sense of taste so he decided to test it  with some tonsil hockey

[trousers]

Sajid Javid new Health Sec

[The Cat]

That was announced so quickly you'd have to think that it was all planned.

[badgerx16]

The mistress has left her job at the Health Department as well.

[buctootim]

1 hour ago, The Cat said:

That was announced so quickly you'd have to think that it was all planned.

Yep it was obvious from the letters they have already agree a time and method of bringing him back into some other portfolio. Will be a mistake by Johnson though because 90% of the people I know, of all parties think he’s an oliagenous twerp

[badgerx16]

13 minutes ago, buctootim said:

Yep it was obvious from the letters they have already agree a time and method of bringing him back into some other portfolio. Will be a mistake by Johnson though because 90% of the people I know, of all parties think he’s an oliagenous twerp

Johnson or Hancock ?

[buctootim]

Just now, badgerx16 said:

Johnson or Hancock ?

Hancock. Johnson is more of a work shy liar 

[Turkish]

The mistress is quite tidy. Why she’d want a bit of that wheezily clam is beyond me. 

[Lighthouse]

38 minutes ago, Turkish said:

The mistress is quite tidy. Why she’d want a bit of that wheezily clam is beyond me. 

Men with authority, innit. When I was a Boy Scout Master I was raking in the clunge.

[Tamesaint]

On 25/06/2021 at 20:10, Weston Super Saint said:

He didn't 'break his own rules'.

The Ferguson incident was different wasn't it, with him traveling during lockdown to meet up with someone who he was not allowed to meet!

Hancock has kissed (probably more, but all we've got so far is a picture of him kissing her) a colleague that he had already spent time in close proximity to when traveling in the back of a car!

As others have mentioned, he isn't going to be thrown under the bus yet, he is clearly being saved as a scapegoat for further down the line.

Thick as pig shit. 🐖

[whelk]

Weston must be baffled this morning as to why Hancock resigned

[whelk]

10 hours ago, Lighthouse said:

Men with authority, innit. When I was a Boy Scout Master I was raking in the clunge.

Aye, as acting head of stationery it is amazing what women will so for a flash biro

[Weston Super Saint]

41 minutes ago, whelk said:

Weston must be baffled this morning as to why Hancock resigned

Not at all, he broke the guidelines.  Morally he has done the right thing.  I'm more impressed that a politician has morals (or is able to pretend he does)!

[The Cat]

13 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said:

Not at all, he broke the guidelines.  Morally he has done the right thing.  I'm more impressed that a politician has morals (or is able to pretend he does)!

Didn't have many morals when it came to his wife and kids though. A bit like his boss, but then at least Hancock wasn't having an affair while his wife had cancer so I guess he had that in his favour.

Also likely he was told to resign rather than actually wanting to. Probably arranged a deal that he'll be back in a ministerial post within a year. That's normally how it works in the government jobs merry go round.

[Tamesaint]

There was nothing moral about Hancock resigning.

He probably realised that the next time he ordered the country to follow "Hands, Face. Space" everyone would collapse with laughter. He would even be more of a laughing stock than thick as pig shit Weston. 

[rallyboy]

He resigned when he discovered how much more The Sun has on him, but that abrupt U-turn has left those ministers etc who defended him with a fucking great omelette on their faces.

And the stench of putrid corruption around his tenure still hangs heavy in the air.

While he no doubt plans to return like nothing has happened, there are still a hundred questions to answer about where the money has gone and why. 

 

oh but Rallyboy we needed stuff quickly, so quickly, his friends and family were the best and cheapest suppliers on every occasion, he broke no laws, his close friend Dido is brilliant too and so good with budgets and data, her husband checks thoroughly on corruption and he says their friend Matt is a hero, he only fucked this aide on weekdays and as taxpayers that was good value for us, and her brother deserved the £28m contract he was presented with, it's Matt's personal life after all, he only lied at home, never in the office, no, no, he wasn't open to blackmail, he was a Covid hero, he developed the vaccine himself between office shags. and he didn't personally murder all the old people, it was lazy nurses and marxist immigrants, anyway the old folks had their lives, blah, blah, whatever...😕

 

[Weston Super Saint]

2 minutes ago, rallyboy said:

He resigned when he discovered how much more The Sun has on him, but that abrupt U-turn has left those ministers etc who defended him with a fucking great omelette on their faces.

And the stench of putrid corruption around his tenure still hangs heavy in the air.

While he no doubt plans to return like nothing has happened, there are still a hundred questions to answer about where the money has gone and why. 

 

oh but Rallyboy we needed stuff quickly, so quickly, his friends and family were the best and cheapest suppliers on every occasion, he broke no laws, his close friend Dido is brilliant too and so good with budgets and data, her husband checks thoroughly on corruption and he says their friend Matt is a hero, he only fucked this aide on weekdays and as taxpayers that was good value for us, and her brother deserved the £28m contract he was presented with, it's Matt's personal life after all, he only lied at home, never in the office, no, no, he wasn't open to blackmail, he was a Covid hero, he developed the vaccine himself between office shags. and he didn't personally murder all the old people, it was lazy nurses and marxist immigrants, anyway the old folks had their lives, blah, blah, whatever...😕

 

You didn't answer previously, so what law(s) did he break?

I'm right behind you on this one, 'if' he broke the law, then he should be subject to the consequences of breaking whatever law he broke - generally a fine or other penalty / prison sentence.  Presumably you have knowledge of which law(s) he broke as you seem adamant that he did, but for some reason seem reticent to divulge this information....

[Whitey Grandad]

54 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said:

You didn't answer previously, so what law(s) did he break?

I'm right behind you on this one, 'if' he broke the law, then he should be subject to the consequences of breaking whatever law he broke - generally a fine or other penalty / prison sentence.  Presumably you have knowledge of which law(s) he broke as you seem adamant that he did, but for some reason seem reticent to divulge this information....

Nothing to do with any law. You have missed the point again.

[Weston Super Saint]

4 hours ago, Whitey Grandad said:

Nothing to do with any law. You have missed the point again.

Keep up Whitey 

On 25/06/2021 at 16:07, rallyboy said:

There is only one sackable offence now - upsetting Carrie.

This has become the most corrupt and inept cabinet in living memory, and the PM has supported Hancock today even though he's up to his neck in dodgy dealing sleaze and bodybags, and broke a law he'd signed himself.

Alan B'Stard spins in his grave - if it wasn't our money it would be hilarious.

 

[Whitey Grandad]

2 hours ago, Weston Super Saint said:

Keep up Whitey 

 

Once again, and not for the first time, you miss the point. He was a Minister of the Crown and standards are involved and expected to be upheld. Whether or not he broke any law is by the by.

[The Cat]

My brother in law had his first ICU covid patient for months this week. A 50 year old vaccine refuser. He's now on a ventilator. 

[whelk]

1 hour ago, The Cat said:

My brother in law had his first ICU covid patient for months this week. A 50 year old vaccine refuser. He's now on a ventilator. 

I wonder if this will be enough to wake up these twats?

[rallyboy]

When it came to gatherings indoors, the law stated: "No person may participate in a gathering... which consists of two or more people and takes place indoors."

There was an exception for work purposes but only if the gathering was "reasonably necessary".

"I cannot see how that exception could apply in the circumstances," Adam Wagner, a barrister from Doughty Street Chambers who is an expert on the lockdown restrictions told BBC Reality Check.

"Based on what we know, this seems to me to have been an illegal gathering."

Which means....

 

Hancock.

Broke.

The.

Law.

 

The End.

 

[Patrick Bateman]

1 hour ago, whelk said:

I wonder if this will be enough to wake up these twats?

Of course it won't. Some old hippy c*nt walked past my front garden last month and bumped into one of his weird acquaintances (note: I was at the very front of my front garden doing some wedding, mowing and pruning so conversation was easy to hear) and they started talking about the vaccine. First hippy was adamant that the vaccine had "alien DNA" in it, I kid you not. Second hippy was insistent that the vaccine was "spreading this virus".

I actually laughed and came in to piss myself laughing whilst telling the wife.  What is wrong with these weirdos? 

 

[Weston Super Saint]

8 hours ago, rallyboy said:

When it came to gatherings indoors, the law stated: "No person may participate in a gathering... which consists of two or more people and takes place indoors."

There was an exception for work purposes but only if the gathering was "reasonably necessary".

"I cannot see how that exception could apply in the circumstances," Adam Wagner, a barrister from Doughty Street Chambers who is an expert on the lockdown restrictions told BBC Reality Check.

"Based on what we know, this seems to me to have been an illegal gathering."

Which means....

 

Hancock.

Broke.

The.

Law.

 

The End.

 

Finally, you've let us know which one!

I've no doubt he'll be handed a £100 fine for breaking the law, especially as it's such a slam dunk!

[rallyboy]

I'm just glad I was able to help. 👍

[Antrimsaint]

12 hours ago, whelk said:

I wonder if this will be enough to wake up these twats?

There really is a subset of flat earthers in our society. 
 

I have seen the anti vax protesters and non of them see the irony that nothing will open up unless we get jabbed.

Its the only practical way out whether you agree or not.

By whinging and protesting all they do is prolong the agony.

[benjii]

Ozzies letting the side down. They need to up their game or they'll get booted out of the vaccine, death-injection, population control gang. Someone really needs to remind them that this whole endeavour won't work unless they get people injected. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-57661144

 

On a less idiotic note, I'm actually finding this increasingly psychologically difficult. The lockdown etc. obviously sucked but didn't have a huge impact on me personally for various reasons. It's very clear now though that it will be many years before we get even close to "normal". We will need boosters and we will have lots of variants for years to come and that will impact various things, not least travel. The impacts will be taken as validation by the dumb-ass groups that they were right all along and there's some plan afoot, and this whole situation will contribute to the societal malaise that political opportunists and online echo chambers are creating. That's assuming war doesn't break out with China. I'm feeling the outlook is bleak. 

[Antrimsaint]

18 minutes ago, benjii said:

Ozzies letting the side down. They need to up their game or they'll get booted out of the vaccine, death-injection, population control gang. Someone really needs to remind them that this whole endeavour won't work unless they get people injected. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-57661144

 

On a less idiotic note, I'm actually finding this increasingly psychologically difficult. The lockdown etc. obviously sucked but didn't have a huge impact on me personally for various reasons. It's very clear now though that it will be many years before we get even close to "normal". We will need boosters and we will have lots of variants for years to come and that will impact various things, not least travel. The impacts will be taken as validation by the dumb-ass groups that they were right all along and there's some plan afoot, and this whole situation will contribute to the societal malaise that political opportunists and online echo chambers are creating. That's assuming war doesn't break out with China. I'm feeling the outlook is bleak. 

Keep your head up. Its a bloody nightmare. Not a first world problem as people like to think just because we cant go to nightclubs.

Its a heavy Psychological blanket that is wearing every one down. Like a collective low level chronic depression.

Very hard to get motivated to do anything. 
 

Apart from  the big cities Ive noticed very few people out bustling , like its Sunday every day now. Hard to get that cranked up again.

 I wonder if the same Psychological damage was done in the Spanish flu outbreak. 

[Whitey Grandad]

48 minutes ago, Antrimsaint said:

Keep your head up. Its a bloody nightmare. Not a first world problem as people like to think just because we cant go to nightclubs.

Its a heavy Psychological blanket that is wearing every one down. Like a collective low level chronic depression.

Very hard to get motivated to do anything. 
 

Apart from  the big cities Ive noticed very few people out bustling , like its Sunday every day now. Hard to get that cranked up again.

 I wonder if the same Psychological damage was done in the Spanish flu outbreak. 

Yes, I agree, it's all gone on too long. The Spanish Flu came at the end of a very crushing and devastating World War so people had more important things to worry about.

[Lighthouse]

Mental that a developed country like Oz could be so poor on something like this, 5% vaccinations for a developed country is just atrocious. At this rate it'll take about five years for them to get jabbed enough to ease lockdown.

[Weston Super Saint]

Is the vaccine working?  Plenty of reports (mainly anecdotal) of 'double jabbers' testing positive.  The 101 centre in Bristol has apparently had five of them following work at the weekend.

[The Kraken]

22 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said:

Is the vaccine working?  Plenty of reports (mainly anecdotal) of 'double jabbers' testing positive.  The 101 centre in Bristol has apparently had five of them following work at the weekend.

The vaccine doesn’t prevent transmission or catching the virus. What it does do, extremely well, is cut down on severe illness and death from the virus.

[badgerx16]

14 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said:

Is the vaccine working?  Plenty of reports (mainly anecdotal) of 'double jabbers' testing positive.  The 101 centre in Bristol has apparently had five of them following work at the weekend.

You can certainly test positive in an antibody test. It is also possible that if you are infected immediately before or after being vaccinated you might test positive, or you may be one of the unlucky few for whom the vaccine doesn't work.

[whelk]

1 hour ago, The Kraken said:

The vaccine doesn’t prevent transmission or catching the virus. What it does do, extremely well, is cut down on severe illness and death from the virus.

It pretty much does prevent but just not for all. 

[skintsaint]

3 hours ago, Lighthouse said:

Mental that a developed country like Oz could be so poor on something like this, 5% vaccinations for a developed country is just atrocious. At this rate it'll take about five years for them to get jabbed enough to ease lockdown.

Media really freaked everyone out about using AZ and the clotting issue. First up they said no one under 40 can have it, then 50 and now its only over 60s who can get that jab. So we all been waiting for the Pfizer one to hit the shores. I'm due my first jab on the 7th....at last. My partner has had double the AZ as she is a nurse. 

[Whitey Grandad]

3 hours ago, Weston Super Saint said:

Is the vaccine working?  Plenty of reports (mainly anecdotal) of 'double jabbers' testing positive.  The 101 centre in Bristol has apparently had five of them following work at the weekend.

Andrew Marr had been double jabbed yet went down with it but he had been at the G7 summit getting up at 05:00 and back to London after midnight.

You can’t rely on just the vaccine to protect yourself. You need to look after your immune system too.

[Weston Super Saint]

3 hours ago, Weston Super Saint said:

Is the vaccine working?  Plenty of reports (mainly anecdotal) of 'double jabbers' testing positive.  The 101 centre in Bristol has apparently had five of them following work at the weekend.

I see I may not have explained clearly.  How it should read is five workers that work at the 101 centre have tested positive since the weekend, all of them have been double jabbed for months....

I get that once vaccinated it is unlikely to lead to severe symptoms, but that's five workers now isolating for 10 days and five families isolating for 14 days.  Should the isolation rules be updated for what is likely to be a bit of a cold for those catching the virus once vaccinated?

Andrew Marr is a double jabber that tested positive...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-57640550

Edit - just seen Whitey's post about Marr!!!

Edited 30 June, 2021 by Weston Super Saint

[Weston Super Saint]

Nice to see the PM blatantly breaking the coronavirus rules - even bragging about it on his instagram (drinks receptions aren't allowed, guests must remain seated).  Maybe he gets a free pass because celebrating pride trumps covid rules?

I assume he'll resign in the next day or so, after all, those that make the rules....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-57669369

[The Cat]

1 hour ago, Weston Super Saint said:

Nice to see the PM blatantly breaking the coronavirus rules - even bragging about it on his instagram (drinks receptions aren't allowed, guests must remain seated).  Maybe he gets a free pass because celebrating pride trumps covid rules?

I assume he'll resign in the next day or so, after all, those that make the rules....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-57669369

Looks like he's about to break out into a dance there. What tune though? It's pride, so maybe something traditional like Erasure or would he go more contemporary like Hancock did when he said he liked Grime and throw a few shapes to a Sophie techno track?

The rules at the moment are even more mental than they've ever been. It's fine to lob a load of fans into a football stadium and let them all jump on each other after a goal and then cram together on a train but you can't stand outside socially distanced to watch your kids sports day. 

I don't have a sports day to watch but it's a good example of how batshit the rules are. 

According to this article 15% of Scottish fans at Wembley have tested positive.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jun/30/surge-in-scottish-covid-cases-raises-euro-2020-safety-concerns

I'm firmly in the easing of restrictions camp because of the effectiveness of the vaccines but the current rules are all over the place.

[The Cat]

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/dance-clubs-reopen-no-covid-tests-lockdown-vaccine-passports-b943401.html

Music venues and nightclubs won't have to test people once restrictions ease and no need to show passport or proof of negative test according to the article above.

This is huge if true. I can't wait to get back into packed venues and watch a load of gigs. 

[whelk]

1 hour ago, The Cat said:

Looks like he's about to break out into a dance there. What tune though? It's pride, so maybe something traditional like Erasure or would he go more contemporary like Hancock did when he said he liked Grime and throw a few shapes to a Sophie techno track?

The rules at the moment are even more mental than they've ever been. It's fine to lob a load of fans into a football stadium and let them all jump on each other after a goal and then cram together on a train but you can't stand outside socially distanced to watch your kids sports day. 

I don't have a sports day to watch but it's a good example of how batshit the rules are. 

According to this article 15% of Scottish fans at Wembley have tested positive.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jun/30/surge-in-scottish-covid-cases-raises-euro-2020-safety-concerns

I'm firmly in the easing of restrictions camp because of the effectiveness of the vaccines but the current rules are all over the place.

How the fuck has our track and trace system worked that out? I’m with CollinsD