Coronavirus

[Turkish]

  On 16/02/2021 at 14:12, Lord Duckhunter said:

Of course being overweight is bad for your health, but people struggle to grasp that obvious fact. 

My old man used to play golf with a Doctor, and the Doc used to have people asking him all the time “what’s the best diet”, “is diet X good for me”, “how do I lose weight”. He used to tell my old man that all he ever said to people about diets and weight loss was, “don’t eat so much”, and that they would then look at him baffled, confused, not quite able to believe  this ridiculous remedy he’d proposed. 

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Because it's too simple for people to believe it. Like most things there is a lot of bull shit out there which makes people think they need all these complex diets, fitness programs or machines and bollocks like intermittant fasting, promoted by people trying to sell you something. Eat less and go for a walk every day, that's all people need to do.

[Whitey Grandad]

  On 16/02/2021 at 14:10, Lighthouse said:

In what way? What are they getting out of us that they couldn’t dream of with a thriving, open economy?

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Some people just like having control over what other people do.

 

[Whitey Grandad]

  On 16/02/2021 at 14:12, Lord Duckhunter said:

Of course being overweight is bad for your health, but people struggle to grasp that obvious fact. 

My old man used to play golf with a Doctor, and the Doc used to have people asking him all the time “what’s the best diet”, “is diet X good for me”, “how do I lose weight”. He used to tell my old man that all he ever said to people about diets and weight loss was, “don’t eat so much”, and that they would then look at him baffled, confused, not quite able to believe  this ridiculous remedy he’d proposed. 

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This comment is extremely insensitive but my father told me that his doctor would say "You never saw a fat person in Belsen" (excluding the guards, obvioulsy)

'You are what you eat' has always held true.

 

 

  On 16/02/2021 at 14:22, Turkish said:

Because it's too simple for people to believe it. Like most things there is a lot of bull shit out there which makes people think they need all these complex diets, fitness programs or machines and bollocks like intermittant fasting, promoted by people trying to sell you something. Eat less and go for a walk every day, that's all people need to do.

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If only there was some supplement or table that they could take.

[whelk]

That reminds me 10 pieces of KFC for a tenner on Tuesday.  Annoyed no option to ask for extra fried skin.

 

Fuck it remembered its pancake day so scratch that. Or is it greedy to have both?

[whelk]

  On 16/02/2021 at 14:43, Whitey Grandad said:

This comment is extremely insensitive but my father told me that his doctor would say "You never saw a fat person in Belsen" (excluding the guards, obvioulsy)

'You are what you eat' has always held true.

 

 

If only there was some supplement or table that they could take.

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Hardly any fat people in 50s or 60s either when people had portion control. Complicated mystery this getting fat thing

[Lighthouse]

  On 16/02/2021 at 14:39, Whitey Grandad said:

Some people just like having control over what other people do.

 

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Yes, because they obtain money, women, property, infamy or some other valuable commodity from it. There’s none of that here; if you derive satisfaction from preventing complete strangers going to the pub you have a mental illness. 

[Turkish]

  On 16/02/2021 at 14:52, whelk said:

Hardly any fat people in 50s or 60s either when people had portion control. Complicated mystery this getting fat thing

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People cooked from scratch back then with fresh ingredients too, My nan and grandad used to buy all their food from the local butchers, fishmongers and greengrocers. Not much processed, packet food back then. So bad for you, packed with sugar, salt, sweeteners and other shit. I listen to a pod cast by a doctor who says that he can sure 70% of peoples health problems by changing their diet. 

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[Whitey Grandad]

  On 16/02/2021 at 14:52, Lighthouse said:

Yes, because they obtain money, women, property, infamy or some other valuable commodity from it. There’s none of that here; if you derive satisfaction from preventing complete strangers going to the pub you have a mental illness. 

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Precisely! That's what being a control freak does to you.

[Whitey Grandad]

  On 16/02/2021 at 14:52, whelk said:

Hardly any fat people in 50s or 60s either when people had portion control. Complicated mystery this getting fat thing

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Processed food has a lot to answer for. I think it all went downhill when they started adding salt to the crisp packets instead of you having to open the little blue packet yourself. Then they introduced all those exotic flavours.

 

Edit: No cars either. Public transport or walk unless you were rich enough for a bike.

Eat less and move around more. That's all it takes. I can be somewhat smug because I have lost 11 Kg in the last 20 months. Still another 7 or 8 to go

Edited 16 February, 2021 by Whitey Grandad

[Lighthouse]

  On 16/02/2021 at 16:15, Whitey Grandad said:

Precisely! That's what being a control freak does to you.

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And you believe a significant portion of the same cabinet and their medical advisors all suffer from the same mental illness simultaneously? 

[buctootim]

  On 16/02/2021 at 16:39, Lighthouse said:

And you believe a significant portion of the same cabinet and their medical advisors all suffer from the same mental illness simultaneously? 

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It is possible to argue that people with the same mindset are attracted to the same sort of jobs.........but I won't  

[The Cat]

What's the deal with everyone asking which vaccine people have had?

Pretty much every time I've been in a conversation with someone who has had it they'll tell me which one it was, or someone else involved will ask them. I'm pretty sure my Mum has a list detailing which vaccine all her friends and relatives have had because she seems that obsessed with it. 

They all stop you from dying which is surely all you need to know. No one asks which company made their flu vaccine or any of the ones the kids get. 

[Lighthouse]

  On 16/02/2021 at 17:24, The Cat said:

What's the deal with everyone asking which vaccine people have had?

Pretty much every time I've been in a conversation with someone who has had it they'll tell me which one it was, or someone else involved will ask them. I'm pretty sure my Mum has a list detailing which vaccine all her friends and relatives have had because she seems that obsessed with it. 

They all stop you from dying which is surely all you need to know. No one asks which company made their flu vaccine or any of the ones the kids get. 

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It’s understandable really when you see so many news stories about different vaccines having a different efficacy against different variants. Also people want to know in case there’s a sudden outbreak of side effects from a certain vaccine.

[ecuk268]

  On 16/02/2021 at 16:17, Whitey Grandad said:

Processed food has a lot to answer for. I think it all went downhill when they started adding salt to the crisp packets instead of you having to open the little blue packet yourself. Then they introduced all those exotic flavours.

 

Edit: No cars either. Public transport or walk unless you were rich enough for a bike.

Eat less and move around more. That's all it takes. I can be somewhat smug because I have lost 11 Kg in the last 20 months. Still another 7 or 8 to go

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Not quite that simple. Metabolism plays a part.

I've always been skinny, I can eat what I want and not put on any weight. I just burn it off. Mrs ecuk268 used to say that it was like sleeping with a radiator (and about as exciting).

About 10 years ago my weight suddenly started going up. Turned out that my thyroid had packed up and caused the metabolic rate to fall. So food wasn't getting converted to energy but was laid down as fat. The specialist I saw explained that people have different metabolic rates so that some are much more efficient at converting food to energy than others. 

[The Kraken]

  On 16/02/2021 at 17:30, Lighthouse said:

It’s understandable really when you see so many news stories about different vaccines having a different efficacy against different variants. Also people want to know in case there’s a sudden outbreak of side effects from a certain vaccine.

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Yeah this. My folks recently both got the AZ vaccine but it seems like the Pfizer one is getting higher reported efficacy rates especially for prevention of mild to moderate symptoms of the known variants. I’ll admit, from the limited evidence available/published, I’d have preferred if my folks had gotten Pfizer. But it’s still extremely early to say for sure one way or the other, and the main thing is that they’ve got a jab that looks very likely to prevent the most extreme symptoms in the majority of cases, and has good prevention levels for the mild to moderate region.

[The Cat]

  On 16/02/2021 at 17:30, Lighthouse said:

It’s understandable really when you see so many news stories about different vaccines having a different efficacy against different variants. Also people want to know in case there’s a sudden outbreak of side effects from a certain vaccine.

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It's the obsession of knowing who else has had what vaccine. I guess it's useful to know which one you had yourself but I'm not going to remember which one Aunty Doris had in 4 months time because that information would have been pushed out by the other 147 people who have told me which one they've had since.

My level of interest is pretty much "you've had a vaccine, that's good you won't die from COVID." All the other details are irrelevant. 

 

[Turkish]

  On 16/02/2021 at 17:24, The Cat said:

What's the deal with everyone asking which vaccine people have had?

Pretty much every time I've been in a conversation with someone who has had it they'll tell me which one it was, or someone else involved will ask them. I'm pretty sure my Mum has a list detailing which vaccine all her friends and relatives have had because she seems that obsessed with it. 

They all stop you from dying which is surely all you need to know. No one asks which company made their flu vaccine or any of the ones the kids get. 

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A few possible reasons

Xenophobia - wanting the British Oxford vaccine, none of that foreign muck inside me

Microchips - has it been confirmed yet which one contains Bill Gates chip? Until it has best keep on top of what’s in us.

Not wanting a Tory vaccine - anything developed or funded by the Tories is evil and vile and I want anything but the Oxford vaccine. 

[whelk]

  On 16/02/2021 at 18:01, Turkish said:

Not wanting a Tory vaccine - anything developed or funded by the Tories is evil and vile and I want anything but the Oxford vaccine. 

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What has happened to Jonnyboy?

[whelk]

  On 16/02/2021 at 17:59, The Cat said:

It's the obsession of knowing who else has had what vaccine. I guess it's useful to know which one you had yourself but I'm not going to remember which one Aunty Doris had in 4 months time because that information would have been pushed out by the other 147 people who have told me which one they've had since.

My level of interest is pretty much "you've had a vaccine, that's good you won't die from COVID." All the other details are irrelevant. 

 

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I don’t know many who have had the vaccine to discuss. Bloody stats being reported are clearly bs. Not happening. If they put the same effort to rolling out the vaccine as getting all these actors bearing their arms for bogus injections to be filmed we would be leading the way.

[Turkish]

  On 16/02/2021 at 17:49, ecuk268 said:

Not quite that simple. Metabolism plays a part.

I've always been skinny, I can eat what I want and not put on any weight. I just burn it off. Mrs ecuk268 used to say that it was like sleeping with a radiator (and about as exciting).

About 10 years ago my weight suddenly started going up. Turned out that my thyroid had packed up and caused the metabolic rate to fall. So food wasn't getting converted to energy but was laid down as fat. The specialist I saw explained that people have different metabolic rates so that some are much more efficient at converting food to energy than others. 

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In a very small amount of cases. The vast majority use metabolism and genes as excuses. Always amused me people who say they eat what they want, you can’t sit on your arse all day living off McDonald’s and fish and chips, you don’t see many slim people who drink 4 pints of lager a day. A lot of people who claim to have high metabolisms are simply very active and a lot of people who claim to have slow metabolisms are very lazy.

[Whitey Grandad]

  On 16/02/2021 at 16:39, Lighthouse said:

And you believe a significant portion of the same cabinet and their medical advisors all suffer from the same mental illness simultaneously? 

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They wouldn’t be in politics if they weren’t

[Whitey Grandad]

  On 16/02/2021 at 17:24, The Cat said:

What's the deal with everyone asking which vaccine people have had?

Pretty much every time I've been in a conversation with someone who has had it they'll tell me which one it was, or someone else involved will ask them. I'm pretty sure my Mum has a list detailing which vaccine all her friends and relatives have had because she seems that obsessed with it. 

They all stop you from dying which is surely all you need to know. No one asks which company made their flu vaccine or any of the ones the kids get. 

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We both had the AZ vaccine last week, not that we had a choice. We were asked the question

“Are you happy to have the Astra Zeneca vaccine today?” 

“Do we have a choice?”

”No”

”Then we’re happy”

[Lighthouse]

  On 16/02/2021 at 18:14, whelk said:

What has happened to Jonnyboy?

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He had a seizure when given the Pfizer vaccine. Bill tried pressing CTRL + ALT + DEL but it didn't work. 

[Lighthouse]

  On 16/02/2021 at 18:30, Turkish said:

In a very small amount of cases. The vast majority use metabolism and genes as excuses. Always amused me people who say they eat what they want, you can’t sit on your arse all day living off McDonald’s and fish and chips, you don’t see many slim people who drink 4 pints of lager a day. A lot of people who claim to have high metabolisms are simply very active and a lot of people who claim to have slow metabolisms are very lazy.

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Weirdly, when I lived in Oslo for a couple of months I noticed that almost nobody there had thyroid problems and everyone had a high metabolism. Amazing how these medical conditions vary so much by region.

[RedArmy]

  On 16/02/2021 at 18:30, Turkish said:

In a very small amount of cases. The vast majority use metabolism and genes as excuses. Always amused me people who say they eat what they want, you can’t sit on your arse all day living off McDonald’s and fish and chips, you don’t see many slim people who drink 4 pints of lager a day. A lot of people who claim to have high metabolisms are simply very active and a lot of people who claim to have slow metabolisms are very lazy.

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And a lot of people who claim to have fast metabolisms just don’t eat as much as they think they do. 

[Lord Duckhunter]

  On 16/02/2021 at 18:48, Lighthouse said:

Weirdly, when I lived in Oslo for a couple of months I noticed that almost nobody there had thyroid problems and everyone had a high metabolism. Amazing how these medical conditions vary so much by region.

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Even if you have a thyroid problem, it can be sorted, so shouldn’t be an excuse. Both the snap dragon and daughter have had thyroid problems and have had them nuked. They replace the function with drugs and then sort the dosage to match your metabolism . My daughter did put on weight, but that was an issue with her medication (as was tiredness), once they sorted the dosage out she’s like everyone else. If she eats too much she puts on weight,  because of greed not her genuine thyroid disease. 

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[Turkish]

  On 16/02/2021 at 18:48, Lighthouse said:

Weirdly, when I lived in Oslo for a couple of months I noticed that almost nobody there had thyroid problems and everyone had a high metabolism. Amazing how these medical conditions vary so much by region.

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Probably the funniest fad at the moment is intermittent fasting. aka skipping breakfast. The hype around it is ridiculous. People are actually paying for books and courses in it. They are paying to be told how to skip a meal, it’s insanity. All it’s doing is reducing their meals by one a day = eating less. Idiots. 

[Lighthouse]

  On 16/02/2021 at 19:30, Turkish said:

Probably the funniest fad at the moment is intermittent fasting. aka skipping breakfast. The hype around it is ridiculous. People are actually paying for books and courses in it. They are paying to be told how to skip a meal, it’s insanity. All it’s doing is reducing their meals by one a day = eating less. Idiots. 

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I think people just have the wrong mindset when it comes to dieting. They’ll buy a diet chocolate milkshake because it’s, ‘only 143 calories, less than 40% of a normal milkshake.’ That’s not ‘saving’ anything, you’ve just drank an extra 143 calories - stop buying milkshakes.

[The Cat]

  On 16/02/2021 at 19:41, Lighthouse said:

I think people just have the wrong mindset when it comes to dieting. They’ll buy a diet chocolate milkshake because it’s, ‘only 143 calories, less than 40% of a normal milkshake.’ That’s not ‘saving’ anything, you’ve just drank an extra 143 calories - stop buying milkshakes.

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Haha, yeah. You could eat some fish and a a salad for about the same calories and it would far more nutritious.

Saying that I just smashed back a load of pancakes so can hardly be called on for sound dietary advice. 

[Turkish]

  On 16/02/2021 at 20:02, The Cat said:

Haha, yeah. You could eat some fish and a a salad for about the same calories and it would far more nutritious.

Saying that I just smashed back a load of pancakes so can hardly be called on for sound dietary advice. 

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1 egg

1 banana

1 scoop protein powder

1 scoop rolled oats

Sprinkle of cinamon

whizz the up, stick it in a frying pan with oil, serve with blueberries, raspberries and Greek yoghurt 

thanks me later 👌

[Cryoman]

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[Cryoman]

  On 16/02/2021 at 20:09, Turkish said:

1 egg

1 banana

1 scoop protein powder

1 scoop rolled oats

Sprinkle of cinamon

whizz the up, stick it in a frying pan with oil, serve with blueberries, raspberries and Greek yoghurt 

thanks me later 👌

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I’ll give it a try. Ta

[ecuk268]

  On 16/02/2021 at 18:30, Turkish said:

In a very small amount of cases. The vast majority use metabolism and genes as excuses. Always amused me people who say they eat what they want, you can’t sit on your arse all day living off McDonald’s and fish and chips, you don’t see many slim people who drink 4 pints of lager a day. A lot of people who claim to have high metabolisms are simply very active and a lot of people who claim to have slow metabolisms are very lazy.

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How do you know that it's "a very small amount of cases" and "The vast majority use metabolism and genes as excuses" ?

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[Turkish]

  On 16/02/2021 at 21:16, ecuk268 said:

How do you know that it's "a very small amount of cases" and "The vast majority use metabolism and genes as excuses" ?

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Because I’ve met loads of fat cunts who stuff their faces with shit, sit on their arses all day then blame being fat on their genes or slow metabolism.

the majority of people aren’t fat because of their metabolism, but being fat fucks up their metabolism, and plenty of other things.

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[StDunko]

  On 16/02/2021 at 19:15, RedArmy said:

And a lot of people who claim to have fast metabolisms just don’t eat as much as they think they do. 

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Or more likely, a lot of people who claim to have fast metabolism just don't realise how much people with thyroid problems eat.

[whelk]

  On 16/02/2021 at 14:43, Whitey Grandad said:

This comment is extremely insensitive but my father told me that his doctor would say "You never saw a fat person in Belsen" (excluding the guards, obvioulsy)

'You are what you eat' has always held true.

 

 

If only there was some supplement or table that they could take.

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Hardly any fat people in 50s or 60s either when people had portion control. Complicated mystery this getting fat thing

[whelk]

Deleted posts?

South African variant found in Upper Shirley. Obviously need to have a boundary but feels a little woolly in huge urban area.

[Johnny Bognor]

  On 16/02/2021 at 09:17, Turkish said:

Or maybe not.

Obesity increases risk of Covid-19 death by 48%, study finds | World news | The Guardian

 

 

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Shouldn't the government produce a policy on what we should eat? 

Seems like the best way to battle Covid.

Whilst some people don't know whether they should book a holiday or not, I don't even know what to have for breakfast FFS

[benjii]

  On 16/02/2021 at 19:30, Turkish said:

Probably the funniest fad at the moment is intermittent fasting. aka skipping breakfast. The hype around it is ridiculous. People are actually paying for books and courses in it. They are paying to be told how to skip a meal, it’s insanity. All it’s doing is reducing their meals by one a day = eating less. Idiots. 

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Yeah, cracks me up.

"I fast for 16 hours".  I.e. I eat dinner at 8.00 pm and then have lunch at 12:00 but skip breakfast.

Fucking magic fast, that. Almost Saintly.

[benjii]

LOlz

[Whitey Grandad]

  On 17/02/2021 at 06:06, whelk said:

Hardly any fat people in 50s or 60s either when people had portion control. Complicated mystery this getting fat thing

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You have to remember that in those days women tended to stay at home as housewives. They bought their food every day instead of doing one weekly shop at a supermarket.

[Turkish]

  On 17/02/2021 at 08:04, Johnny Bognor said:

Shouldn't the government produce a policy on what we should eat? 

Seems like the best way to battle Covid.

Whilst some people don't know whether they should book a holiday or not, I don't even know what to have for breakfast FFS

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can you not refer to your personal covid guide that maps out exactly the things you should do specific to your own individual circumstances so you dont have to think for yourself? Oh thats right the useless, evil government didnt give us one. 

[whelk]

  On 17/02/2021 at 09:49, benjii said:

Yeah, cracks me up.

"I fast for 16 hours".  I.e. I eat dinner at 8.00 pm and then have lunch at 12:00 but skip breakfast.

Fucking magic fast, that. Almost Saintly.

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A vegan colleague said to me recently that sometimes has non vegan meals.

I could say I am a vegan when eating beans on toast and drinking water. Not so much when having steak and chips. 

 

[Turkish]

  On 17/02/2021 at 13:54, whelk said:

A vegan colleague said to me recently that sometimes has non vegan meals.

I could say I am a vegan when eating beans on toast and drinking water. Not so much when having steak and chips. 

 

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i'm afraid you cant.

Heinz Admits Its 'No Added Sugar' Beans Aren't Suitable For Vegans (plantbasednews.org)

 

 

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[ecuk268]

  On 16/02/2021 at 21:22, Turkish said:

Because I’ve met loads of fat cunts who stuff their faces with shit, sit on their arses all day then blame being fat on their genes or slow metabolism.

the majority of people aren’t fat because of their metabolism, but being fat fucks up their metabolism, and plenty of other things.

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It's opinion not fact. I don't think that the "loads" of people that you claim to have met is a statistically representative sample from our 60 million plus population..

[Turkish]

  On 17/02/2021 at 14:59, ecuk268 said:

It's opinion not fact. I don't think that the "loads" of people that you claim to have met is a statistically representative sample from our 60 million plus population..

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yeah but you want a policy from the government to tell you if you should book a holiday or not so it's no surprise you'd deny it.

[ecuk268]

  On 17/02/2021 at 15:25, Turkish said:

yeah but you want a policy from the government to tell you if you should book a holiday or not so it's no surprise you'd deny it.

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Regarding holidays, I was commenting on the mixed messages not whether the policy was good or bad.

You have evidence to the contrary regarding fat people? I mean proper evidence. 

If not then it's just your opinion with no factual basis.

[jamesfp1]

If you eat well and exercise, you won't get fat. Its that simple.

That'll be £8.99 a month please.

Cheers.

[Turkish]

  On 17/02/2021 at 15:35, ecuk268 said:

Regarding holidays, I was commenting on the mixed messages not whether the policy was good or bad.

You have evidence to the contrary regarding fat people? I mean proper evidence. 

If not then it's just your opinion with no factual basis.

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LOL. 2/3rds of adults in this country are overweight, so it's one of three things. Either their is a huge explosion in "thyroid problems" which is only happening in the western world in the last 20 years or so, 2/3s of the country are defying every law of science by eating healthy and exercising but still getting fat, or could it be most people eat and drinking too much and dont exercise enough. I wonder which one it is?

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[Whitey Grandad]

  On 17/02/2021 at 15:46, Turkish said:

LOL. 2/3rds of adults in this country are overweight, so it's one of three things. Either their is a huge explosion in "thyroid problems" which is only happening in the western world in the last 20 years or so, 2/3s of the country are defying every law of science by eating healthy and exercising but still getting fat, or could it be most people eat and drinking too much and dont exercise enough. I wonder which one it is?

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Spending too long sitting in front of a computer?