Coronavirus

[Holmes_and_Watson]

  On 16/08/2024 at 11:27, whelk said:

I assumed SOG had been arrested at one of the recent riots.  He’s been gone for while now and not even a Tommy R thread got him back

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That's what I was thinking. The radio likes to have the judge read out the whole sentence, and I just assumed he was one of the "keyboard warriors" that came up.

The alternative was we were going to get a "return from holiday" approach, just looking to pretend nothing had happened. An  extended version of the tactic used for years.

Edited 16 August, 2024 by Holmes_and_Watson

[whelk]

  On 16/08/2024 at 11:30, tdmickey3 said:

Nutty nic calling people mental🤣..... incredible lack of self awareness 

The definition of the incredible bullshitting man

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Nutty Nic v mental mickey needs be more a pit of wits than just fighting each other with laughing emojis.

I genuinely welcome Nic posting and respect his right to his views

[whelk]

  On 16/08/2024 at 11:32, Holmes_and_Watson said:

That's what I was thinking. The radio likes to have the judge read out the whole sentence, and I just assumed he was one of the "keyboard warriors" that came up.

The alternative was we were going to get a "return from holiday" approach, just looking to pretend nothing had happened. An  extended version of the tactic used for years.

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Have you ruled out handing out water bottles in Gaza? 

[Holmes_and_Watson]

  On 16/08/2024 at 11:38, whelk said:

Have you ruled out handing out water bottles in Gaza? 

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No. There is chance a return story will include a reference to a fictitious friend handing out water bottles in Gaza.

I'd not rule any subject out, as we saw with Nazi belt buckles.

[badgerx16]

  On 16/08/2024 at 10:06, east-stand-nic said:

But thanks for stalking all my posts with a laughing emoji. That is clear proof you have gotten to some one and beaten them to death with logic and brains.

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Congratulations on evolving to the point of self-awareness. Keep going and you might eventually attain the skill of coherent communication.

[spyinthesky]

  On 16/08/2024 at 10:06, east-stand-nic said:

I see u have once again been shown up and embarrassed as a 'I Know nothing' fool on this thread lol. But thanks for stalking all my posts with a laughing emoji. That is clear proof you have gotten to some one and beaten them to death with logic and brains.

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Nic old chap, anyone who uses the terms 'gotten' or the awful 'from the get go' (and appreciate this criticism can't be levelled at you for the moment) needs to have a lie down and ban themselves from watching US inspired TV, Media and Cinema.
Kind regards.

[badgerx16]

I had to drive through Barnard Castle twice today, and am happy to conclude my eyesight is fine for driving.

[sadoldgit]

  On 16/08/2024 at 12:01, Holmes_and_Watson said:

No. There is chance a return story will include a reference to a fictitious friend handing out water bottles in Gaza.

I'd not rule any subject out, as we saw with Nazi belt buckles.

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Another one of those weird people on here who got upset when it was said that Germany was a Christian country back in the 30’s and 40’s? I thought you were smarter than the others. Clearly not.

Anyway, back on subject.

As for Coronavirus, I had visit to the doc’s surgery to have a Shingles jab a couple of weeks ago. We were talking about when my booster for Covid was due and she said there has been a further increase with the numbers going down with it recently. They think that fewer people bother to test themselves anymore so don’t stay at home, treat it just like a cold or mild flu and end up spreading it further.

[whelk]

More you were desperate to defend your beloved Islam and the associated terrorist atrocities by pathetically trying to match the Nazis as Christian equivalent. When scrambling for any evidence, obviously ignoring any historians’ view, you started talking about belt buckles. That’s is why it is not forgotten and you were relentlessly mocked.

[CB Fry]

  On 08/09/2024 at 12:20, sadoldgit said:

Another one of those weird people on here who got upset when it was said that Germany was a Christian country back in the 30’s and 40’s?

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Typical disingenuous bullshit from you.

We know what you wrote because we read it at the time.

[badgerx16]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cevj3y7n33vo

 

''An anti-corruption charity says it has identified significant concerns in contracts worth over £15.3bn awarded by the Conservative government during the Covid pandemic, equivalent to one in every £3 spent.''

 

[The Kraken]

  On 09/09/2024 at 07:03, badgerx16 said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cevj3y7n33vo

 

''An anti-corruption charity says it has identified significant concerns in contracts worth over £15.3bn awarded by the Conservative government during the Covid pandemic, equivalent to one in every £3 spent.''

 

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I'm shocked, I tell you.  

[whelk]

  On 09/09/2024 at 07:03, badgerx16 said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cevj3y7n33vo

 

''An anti-corruption charity says it has identified significant concerns in contracts worth over £15.3bn awarded by the Conservative government during the Covid pandemic, equivalent to one in every £3 spent.''

 

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But if we hadn’t awarded the contracts  theTories would have not been able to buy more properties to rent out to the lowly working class oiks. So the poor old renters would have been the ones that lost out. You need to understand how the economy works. If those at the top are not obscenely wealthy then those at the bottom suffer. So don’t you dare suggest taxing them further

[Holmes_and_Watson]

  On 09/09/2024 at 10:20, whelk said:

But if we hadn’t awarded the contracts  theTories would have not been able to buy more properties to rent out to the lowly working class oiks. So the poor old renters would have been the ones that lost out. You need to understand how the economy works. If those at the top are not obscenely wealthy then those at the bottom suffer. So don’t you dare suggest taxing them further

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I think they'll redo their leadership election for a candidate with those values. 🙂

[a1ex2001]

  On 09/09/2024 at 10:20, whelk said:

But if we hadn’t awarded the contracts  theTories would have not been able to buy more properties to rent out to the lowly working class oiks. So the poor old renters would have been the ones that lost out. You need to understand how the economy works. If those at the top are not obscenely wealthy then those at the bottom suffer. So don’t you dare suggest taxing them further

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Trickle down economics proven time and time again to work perfectly ........ if you are rich, the economic equivalent of been pee'd on from a great height.  It's right up there with the old we can't tax the mega rich anymore or they will all leave the country.....

[whelk]

  On 09/09/2024 at 10:58, Holmes_and_Watson said:

I think they'll redo their leadership election for a candidate with those values. 🙂

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Won’t be a multi millionaire left in the UK when they all flee the CGT rise coming. A boon for Latvian estate agents as hear Monaco has limited capacity 

[whelk]

  On 09/09/2024 at 11:08, a1ex2001 said:

the old we can't tax the mega rich anymore or they will all leave the country.....

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See above - written before seeing your post

[badgerx16]

Here's one for GM and nutty Nic ;

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy8095xjg4po

"A team of scientists say it is “beyond reasonable doubt” the Covid pandemic started with infected animals sold at a market, rather than a laboratory leak."

 

Edited 19 September, 2024 by badgerx16

[Holmes_and_Watson]

  On 19/09/2024 at 17:38, badgerx16 said:

Here's one for GM and nutty Nic ;

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy8095xjg4po

"A team of scientists say it is “beyond reasonable doubt” the Covid pandemic started with infected animals sold at a market, rather than a laboratory leak."

 

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One of the Beeb's radio stations had one of the scientists involved. She started off saying there was still validity to looking at it coming from a lab, it's just not the conclusion they reached.

[badgerx16]

  On 19/09/2024 at 18:05, Holmes_and_Watson said:

One of the Beeb's radio stations had one of the scientists involved. She started off saying there was still validity to looking at it coming from a lab, it's just not the conclusion they reached.

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Of course there was. The Wuhan lab was a centre for the study of coronaviruses and the potential for zoonetic transmission, especially in strains found naturally in bats as there was thought to be a history of localised cross-infections into humans in a mining area close to Wuhan. There is always a risk in any laboratory - when I was at Uni we had a field trip to Porton Down and were shown the store where 'live' Smallpox was being stored, naturally the level of biosecurity in that lab was high.

[Holmes_and_Watson]

  On 19/09/2024 at 18:15, badgerx16 said:

Of course there was. The Wuhan lab was a centre for the study of coronaviruses and the potential for zoonetic transmission, especially in strains found naturally in bats as there was thought to be a history of localised cross-infections into humans in a mining area close to Wuhan. There is always a risk in any laboratory - when I was at Uni we had a field trip to Porton Down and were shown the store where 'live' Smallpox was being stored, naturally the level of biosecurity in that lab was high.

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Just my reaction to seeing the "beyond reasonable doubt" headline, when the first thing one of the scientists involved said, was something else.

I read a couple of books about containment in the 1970s. Gaffer tape doing a lot of work protecting humanity. The other take away was that animal transportation and wet markets were disasters waiting to happen. And had happened.

[whelk]

Everyone getting ‘winter strong’?

[sadoldgit]

A very long but interesting read.

https://zoe.com/learn/covid-response?lid=3e3l30a22q2l

[Turkish]

 

Interesting comments from Mark Zuckerberg 

[The Kraken]

Yes, interesting to know what he is talking about. Especially being as Trump was president when Covid first hit.

Covid hit us from early 2020, we locked down in late March then again in what was it, September and Christmas time? Biden didn’t take office until Jan 21, so vaccines were well underway by then in the UK and over there.

There was huge amounts of pressure put in people to get jabbed, no doubt. Not sure why Zuckerberg is calling out Biden so much when he took over while the vaccine rollout was actually getting towards its end for the majority. 

I’m sure he’s not telling lies. Just a bit of a strange one. I don’t doubt for a second that governments try to downplay conspiracy theories about Covid, just odd that he’s getting political about it.

[Turkish]

Zuckerberg obviously now balls deep in trump but First vaccines were approved here in December 2020 and started to be delivered to the masses mid January 2021 so although Covid started in the US under Trump vaccines would have be rolled out under Biden. 

Edited January 10 by Turkish

[The Kraken]

  On 10/01/2025 at 22:29, Turkish said:

First vaccines were approved her in December 2020 and started to be delivered to the masses mid January 2021 so although Covid started in the US under Trump vaccines would have be rolled out under Biden. 

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Was it that late?

Crikey. 

Genuinely thought it was much quicker than that.

[Lighthouse]

  On 10/01/2025 at 22:31, The Kraken said:

Was it that late?

Crikey. 

Genuinely thought it was much quicker than that.

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Trump was busy telling his supporters to inject bleach, which TBH is one of the few things he's said which I agree with.

[trousers]

[east-stand-nic]

Shock horror. Public lied to about health by government. Seriously, did anyone not realise this at the time?

[whelk]

I actually think Zuckerberg is worse than Musk. More of a snake pretending to be virtuous whereas Musk has very little masking of what he thinks however mental.

[whelk]

  On 11/01/2025 at 05:59, east-stand-nic said:

Shock horror. Public lied to about health by government. Seriously, did anyone not realise this at the time?

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Not everyone has the inside track like you.

[egg]

  On 10/01/2025 at 22:44, trousers said:

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First doses, yes, but it entirely plausible that Zuckerberg is being honest and that the Biden people applied pressure after he came into office. That said, I'm not sure what to believe here and the timing of that interview is interesting. 

[Turkish]

  On 11/01/2025 at 06:38, whelk said:

I actually think Zuckerberg is worse than Musk. More of a snake pretending to be virtuous whereas Musk has very little masking of what he thinks however mental.

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Well Musk said the Uk government did the BBC did the same thing here

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11968621/Elon-Musk-accuses-BBC-misinformation-Covid-masks.html

 

Edited January 11 by Turkish

[east-stand-nic]

  On 11/01/2025 at 08:07, Turkish said:

Well Musk said the Uk government did the BBC did the same thing here

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11968621/Elon-Musk-accuses-BBC-misinformation-Covid-masks.html

 

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Twitter execs also confirmed they had been told to remove certain posts and to promote the Vax ONLY. My only shock is that the truth is coming out.

[whelk]

  On 11/01/2025 at 08:07, Turkish said:

Well Musk said the Uk government did the BBC did the same thing here

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11968621/Elon-Musk-accuses-BBC-misinformation-Covid-masks.html

 

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I was making a general point not about the honesty of what he said there. Although not listened to it it isn’t really a huge revelation. We know they were at pains to quell what they considered misinformation 

[whelk]

  On 11/01/2025 at 08:16, east-stand-nic said:

Twitter execs also confirmed they had been told to remove certain posts and to promote the Vax ONLY. My only shock is that the truth is coming out.

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I am surprised you are surprised. 

[aintforever]

  On 11/01/2025 at 08:16, east-stand-nic said:

Twitter execs also confirmed they had been told to remove certain posts and to promote the Vax ONLY. My only shock is that the truth is coming out.

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I was handed a little leaflet explaining the risks of certain side effects when I had my first jab. From what I remember they were widely publicised at the time as well, certainly remember reading about them.

[whelk]

  On 10/01/2025 at 22:31, The Kraken said:

Genuinely thought it was much quicker than that.

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Boris ensured that the UK were 18 months ahead or the bureaucratic EU. World leading and got big decisions right 

[badgerx16]

Trump was the President who, in April 2020, initiated Operation Warp Speed, and reduced the time and process required to test and approve vaccines. He was still President when the first vaccines were given, 17 million doses distributed and over 5 million administered up to Jan 5th. Biden merely increased the rate of roll out.

Edited January 11 by badgerx16

[sadoldgit]

  On 11/01/2025 at 08:40, aintforever said:

I was handed a little leaflet explaining the risks of certain side effects when I had my first jab. From what I remember they were widely publicised at the time as well, certainly remember reading about them.

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Precisely this, but it doesn’t fit in with the narrative for conspiracy theorists.

https://www.ulh.nhs.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/PHE-vaccine-leaflet.pdf

https://www.gov.uk/government/collections/covid-19-vaccination-programme

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[badgerx16]

  On 11/01/2025 at 12:15, sadoldgit said:

Precisely this, but it doesn’t fit in with the narrative for conspiracy theorists.

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I don't even think it is conspiracy theorists in this instance, rather it is people rapidly repositioning their attitudes to curry favour and match Trump's world view.

Edited January 11 by badgerx16

[AlexLaw76]

Who could not move at the time for people shouting down “fake news” at anyone to questioned the vaccines.

 

[badgerx16]

  On 11/01/2025 at 12:22, AlexLaw76 said:

Who could not move at the time for people shouting down “fake news” at anyone to questioned the vaccines.

 

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All vaccines have a low level of adverse side effects. The hysterical anti-vaccine bullshit, however, was turned up beyond 11 in the case of COVID, especially with the Bill Gates nano-bots.

[sadoldgit]

  On 11/01/2025 at 12:22, AlexLaw76 said:

Who could not move at the time for people shouting down “fake news” at anyone to questioned the vaccines.

 

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Probably just you Elon.

Edited January 11 by sadoldgit

[badgerx16]

I see nic has rediscovered his smileys.

[AlexLaw76]

  On 11/01/2025 at 12:26, badgerx16 said:

All vaccines have a low level of adverse side effects. The hysterical anti-vaccine bullshit, however, was turned up beyond 11 in the case of COVID, especially with the Bill Gates nano-bots.

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Then there would be little reason to surpress facts at the time, as claimed by many 

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[badgerx16]

  On 11/01/2025 at 12:29, AlexLaw76 said:

Then there would be little reason to surprise facts at the time, as claimed by many 

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Anybody can make a claim about anything, what helps is to provide supporting evidence.

[Turkish]

  On 11/01/2025 at 12:31, badgerx16 said:

Anybody can make a claim about anything, what helps is to provide supporting evidence.

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You’ve got an interview from the owner of Facebook saying that the Biden administration told them to take down anything negative. What other supporting evidence do you need?

 

 

[egg]

  On 11/01/2025 at 12:42, Turkish said:

You’ve got an interview from the owner of Facebook saying that the Biden administration told them to take down anything negative. What other supporting evidence do you need?

 

 

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That's Badger's point. It's a claim.