Pilchards Posted 14 March, 2021 Posted 14 March, 2021 102 games each Branfoot 38 wins 26 draws 38 losses goals scored 120 against 129 Ralph 38 wins 21 draws 43 losses goals scored 139 goals against 156 Blimey Branfoot has a better record than our Ralph. I had no idea we are this crap!
Chocolate Box Posted 14 March, 2021 Posted 14 March, 2021 Thanks for that, I'll sleep easy tonight now 😨 1
JustinSFC Posted 14 March, 2021 Posted 14 March, 2021 Branfoot is well before my time, but I had an inkling this might be right up there with Pellegrino, plus 2 record batterings for good measure.
Lighthouse Posted 14 March, 2021 Posted 14 March, 2021 The gospel according to Wikipedia lists Branfoot as having managed 128 games, not 102. I assume you have a more reliable source? I wouldn’t want to misrepresent Ralph, with those extra 26 games he could easily add another win and two draws to his tally. 1
Lord Duckhunter Posted 14 March, 2021 Posted 14 March, 2021 At least Branfoot would have made sure we put some tackles in and made the players put themselves about a bit. I’m pretty sure he’d be giving them some clog tomorrow as well. 1
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 14 March, 2021 Posted 14 March, 2021 (edited) The football under Branfoot was atrocious. But there were genuine talents in the team like Le Tiss and Shearer. There was also passion from others even if it was all long ball. I don't really see either from our current crop. Danny & Prowsey are decent but no more. Armstrong is good too but not top class. Bertrand was great but is in decline & this is KWP's first regular starting role, where he's started well. Beyond that, there's not much. Ralph is doing his best but he's too fixated on one style and seemingly can't or won't adapt during games when things aren't going well. I'm beginning to wonder if that's the cause of the heads going down when things go wrong. The players can see if something's not working but also know we will do nothing to change it up, to try to make a difference. They look knackered and stale all of a sudden and don't have the fighting spirit Branfoot's squad had to at least battle. Branfoot also doesn't have the real embarrassment of 2 9-0 defeats on his record. Ralph doesn't seem to have the tactical or motivational nous to help them out either. Very worrying. We may stay up this season but not next if this continues. Edited 14 March, 2021 by Ivan Katalinic's 'tache 3
CB Fry Posted 14 March, 2021 Posted 14 March, 2021 On 14/03/2021 at 22:48, Lighthouse said: The gospel according to Wikipedia lists Branfoot as having managed 128 games, not 102. I assume you have a more reliable source? I wouldn’t want to misrepresent Ralph, with those extra 26 games he could easily add another win and two draws to his tally. Expand I think what is being compared is Branfoot's league record - 2 and a half seasons of 42 match league campaigns, so about 100 games - with Ralph's entire Saints career. So not a perfect comparison.
Turkish Posted 14 March, 2021 Posted 14 March, 2021 I guess Ralph’s 102 games have been a good 102 whereas Branfoots were bad ones 1
CB Fry Posted 14 March, 2021 Posted 14 March, 2021 On 14/03/2021 at 23:10, Turkish said: I guess Ralph’s 102 games have been a good 102 whereas Branfoots were bad ones Expand Branfoot was a shit manager and his failure all his fault entirely. Ralph is a genius manager whose failure entirely due to injuries, VAR, lack of funds, back luck, the shit players Puel bought four years ago, the owner, Les Reed, referees, the weather and of course "the big picture" of the fundamental problems at the club as a whole. 1 2 1
austsaint Posted 14 March, 2021 Posted 14 March, 2021 On 14/03/2021 at 23:23, CB Fry said: Branfoot was a shit manager and his failure all his fault entirely. Ralph is a genius manager whose failure entirely due to injuries, VAR, lack of funds, back luck, the shit players Puel bought four years ago, the owner, Les Reed, referees, the weather and of course "the big picture" of the fundamental problems at the club as a whole. Expand Time you took your bluster, sarcasm and algorithm book back to the "Is anyone looking nervously over their shoulder" thread. 1
Noodles34 Posted 15 March, 2021 Posted 15 March, 2021 It’s a shame we’re not going anymore. Was it red cards at the Newcastle game or white, can’t remember. If we tried that, we might win with a couple of wonder goals
Whitey Grandad Posted 15 March, 2021 Posted 15 March, 2021 Branfoot was on the point of substituting Le Tiss in that Newcastle game just before he scored two of the greatest goals it has been my privilege to see. 2
Sarnia Cherie Posted 15 March, 2021 Posted 15 March, 2021 I hated Ian Branfoot. The bloke couldn't have run a raffle far less a football team. I prefer Ralph to him any day. 2
Turkish Posted 15 March, 2021 Posted 15 March, 2021 On 15/03/2021 at 00:20, Noodles34 said: It’s a shame we’re not going anymore. Was it red cards at the Newcastle game or white, can’t remember. If we tried that, we might win with a couple of wonder goals Expand There was also a sit in on the Milton road after one game. About 500 stayed, a few stewards and a couple of coppers came along and told everyone to get up and go home, so everyone did, it was over in about 5 minutes. We needed a few more feminists there to get under the old bills skin.
Turkish Posted 15 March, 2021 Posted 15 March, 2021 On 14/03/2021 at 23:23, CB Fry said: Branfoot was a shit manager and his failure all his fault entirely. Ralph is a genius manager whose failure entirely due to injuries, VAR, lack of funds, back luck, the shit players Puel bought four years ago, the owner, Les Reed, referees, the weather and of course "the big picture" of the fundamental problems at the club as a whole. Expand Agreed. Another think i'd like to add is that Ralphs 16th and 11th placed finishes have been good finishes, whereas Puels 8th was poor, so i'd happily take a good 16th over a poor 8th every season.
Noodles34 Posted 15 March, 2021 Posted 15 March, 2021 On 15/03/2021 at 08:15, Whitey Grandad said: Branfoot was on the point of substituting Le Tiss in that Newcastle game just before he scored two of the greatest goals it has been my privilege to see. Expand Sit back down Moody
Daft Kerplunk Posted 15 March, 2021 Posted 15 March, 2021 Uncomfortable comparison (football was dire under Branfoot but no contest on the fight - this team would be scared to leave a luxury spa with their wash bags if faced with some of the players on those teams - but at least now under the current regime, we are market ‘disrupters’ so the 9-0 defeats are just a clever commercial strategy for bouncing back and being different.
Whitey Grandad Posted 15 March, 2021 Posted 15 March, 2021 On 15/03/2021 at 10:27, Turkish said: Agreed. Another think i'd like to add is that Ralphs 16th and 11th placed finishes have been good finishes, whereas Puels 8th was poor, so i'd happily take a good 16th over a poor 8th every season. Expand Are you seriously trying to compare league positions today with twenty years ago? Seriously?
Turkish Posted 15 March, 2021 Posted 15 March, 2021 On 15/03/2021 at 11:44, Whitey Grandad said: Are you seriously trying to compare league positions today with twenty years ago? Seriously? Expand No i'm comparing league positions now to 4 years ago, ie a poor 8th and a good 16th. 1
Whitey Grandad Posted 15 March, 2021 Posted 15 March, 2021 On 15/03/2021 at 12:18, Turkish said: No i'm comparing league positions now to 4 years ago, ie a poor 8th and a good 16th. Expand And what does that have to do with Branfoot v Ralph? Branfoot got 10 home wins and 6 home draws in 1992-1993 (21 home games). What was Puel's home record?
Turkish Posted 15 March, 2021 Posted 15 March, 2021 On 15/03/2021 at 13:12, Whitey Grandad said: And what does that have to do with Branfoot v Ralph? Branfoot got 10 home wins and 6 home draws in 1992-1993 (21 home games). What was Puel's home record? Expand You’re right, Puels success means they aren’t comparable at the moment
SKD Posted 15 March, 2021 Posted 15 March, 2021 On 15/03/2021 at 13:12, Whitey Grandad said: And what does that have to do with Branfoot v Ralph? Branfoot got 10 home wins and 6 home draws in 1992-1993 (21 home games). What was Puel's home record? Expand I was very much Puel out and I’d probably prefer Ralph even still. However, now isn’t the time to start arguing that Puel’s record wasn’t better, you’re on a hiding to nothing.
CB Fry Posted 15 March, 2021 Posted 15 March, 2021 On 15/03/2021 at 11:44, Whitey Grandad said: Are you seriously trying to compare league positions today with twenty years ago? Seriously? Expand On 15/03/2021 at 13:12, Whitey Grandad said: And what does that have to do with Branfoot v Ralph? Branfoot got 10 home wins and 6 home draws in 1992-1993 (21 home games). What was Puel's home record? Expand So is comparing the present day to the early nineties relevant or not? You seem confused.
Whitey Grandad Posted 15 March, 2021 Posted 15 March, 2021 On 15/03/2021 at 13:41, CB Fry said: So is comparing the present day to the early nineties relevant or not? You seem confused. Expand Not me. Way ahead of you. I knew someone analy retentive would make some sort of comment like that.
CB Fry Posted 15 March, 2021 Posted 15 March, 2021 On 15/03/2021 at 13:46, Whitey Grandad said: Not me. Way ahead of you. I knew someone analy retentive would make some sort of comment like that. Expand Some kind of analy retentive comment like this one, you mean? On 15/03/2021 at 11:44, Whitey Grandad said: Are you seriously trying to compare league positions today with twenty years ago? Seriously? Expand
Whitey Grandad Posted 15 March, 2021 Posted 15 March, 2021 On 15/03/2021 at 13:52, CB Fry said: Some kind of analy retentive comment like this one, you mean? Expand If it's all too subtle for you then please go and pick a fight somewhere else. I have bigger fish to Fry. 1
SKD Posted 25 March, 2021 Posted 25 March, 2021 On 14/03/2021 at 22:29, Pilchards said: 102 games each Branfoot 38 wins 26 draws 38 losses goals scored 120 against 129 Ralph 38 wins 21 draws 43 losses goals scored 139 goals against 156 Blimey Branfoot has a better record than our Ralph. I had no idea we are this crap! Expand #biggerpicture
Roger Posted 25 March, 2021 Posted 25 March, 2021 (edited) Win percentage: branfoot after 128 games:28.91 Ralph after 103 games: 37.86 Please stop posting this drivel. Edited 26 March, 2021 by Roger 5
Medrurkin Posted 26 March, 2021 Posted 26 March, 2021 On 14/03/2021 at 22:48, Lighthouse said: The gospel according to Wikipedia lists Branfoot as having managed 128 games, not 102. I assume you have a more reliable source? I wouldn’t want to misrepresent Ralph, with those extra 26 games he could easily add another win and two draws to his tally. Expand With another 28 games, he could add a FA Cup trophy as well.
Jonnyboy Posted 26 March, 2021 Posted 26 March, 2021 On 25/03/2021 at 23:58, Roger said: Points per game ratio: branfoot after 128 games:28.91 Ralph after 103 games: 37.86 Please stop posting this drivel. Expand What do 28.91 and 37.86 represent?
Roger Posted 26 March, 2021 Posted 26 March, 2021 (edited) Sorry win percentage Johnny boy it’s win percentage. Edited 26 March, 2021 by Roger
Ex Lion Tamer Posted 26 March, 2021 Posted 26 March, 2021 Branfoot points per game: 1.13 Ralph points per game: 1.35 Puel: 1.37
Turkish Posted 26 March, 2021 Posted 26 March, 2021 On 26/03/2021 at 21:01, Ex Lion Tamer said: Branfoot points per game: 1.13 Ralph points per game: 1.35 Puel: 1.37 Expand Puels were a bad 1.37 though.
Toadhall Saint Posted 26 March, 2021 Posted 26 March, 2021 On 26/03/2021 at 21:23, Turkish said: Puels were a bad 1.37 though. Expand More boring than bad. 2
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