The Cat Posted 12 March, 2021 Posted 12 March, 2021 Jack Stephens gets some pelters. A few from a while back include Paul Telfer, Jermaine Wright and Paul Wotton.
Lighthouse Posted 12 March, 2021 Posted 12 March, 2021 On 12/03/2021 at 19:37, hypochondriac said: Jermaine Wright Expand No, he was just crap. Not helped by Burley’s absurd obsession with playing him anywhere at any cost. I think Hooiveld got more stick than he deserved in the Premier League. He and Fonte both looked very sketchy in our first season back up, the latter only really steadied when Lovren came in. Jos wasn’t PL standard admittedly but a couple of unfortunate own goals gave him an undeserved reputation as being a hopeless liability.
Badger Posted 12 March, 2021 Posted 12 March, 2021 ‘Sideways’ Magilton and Glenn(da) Cockerill used to take a fair deal of flak at one time. Going back Lew Chatterley was a bit of a skapegoat in the 70’s especially after relegation when he’d just joined from Lawrie’s old club. Hugh Fisher about the same time, although redeemed himself with his part in our cup run.
Turkish Posted 12 March, 2021 Author Posted 12 March, 2021 I seem to remember Paul Rideout getting a fair bit of grief despite being a good player
Turkish Posted 12 March, 2021 Author Posted 12 March, 2021 On 12/03/2021 at 20:28, VectisSaint said: Steven Davis (just to wind Verlaine up) Expand True, good player but not in the eyes of people who know nothing about football
The Cat Posted 12 March, 2021 Posted 12 March, 2021 Anders Svensson used to get a fair amount of abuse which was weird because he was obviously quite good. A bloke I used to go with hated Matt Oakley with a passion. Could never really work out why.
Pilchards Posted 12 March, 2021 Posted 12 March, 2021 David Puckett. Paul Telfer Mick Mills Scott Marshall Neill Moss
Colinjb Posted 12 March, 2021 Posted 12 March, 2021 Paul Telfer Lloyd James Controversial: Gaston Ramirez.
Colinjb Posted 12 March, 2021 Posted 12 March, 2021 On 12/03/2021 at 19:42, Disco Stu said: Danny Fox Expand No, just out of his depth.
northam soul Posted 12 March, 2021 Posted 12 March, 2021 On 12/03/2021 at 20:29, Turkish said: True, good player but not in the eyes of people who know nothing about football Expand Probably our best value signing since we got promoted. On his day really made us tick in the final third and decent bloke too
Turkish Posted 12 March, 2021 Author Posted 12 March, 2021 (edited) On 12/03/2021 at 22:12, Ted Bates Statue said: Les Reed Expand ✅ isn’t it amusing that our arguably best players from the last 2 season have been Reed signings. Edited 12 March, 2021 by Turkish
gordonToo Posted 12 March, 2021 Posted 12 March, 2021 Tommy Mulgrew, Jimmy Melia, Dave McClaren, etc etc etc 1
moonraker Posted 13 March, 2021 Posted 13 March, 2021 Their used to be a group of fans in the archers who could see no value in David Armstrong, based on some of the views on some of our current players I assume they are still alive and still no nothing about football.
redkeith Posted 13 March, 2021 Posted 13 March, 2021 On 12/03/2021 at 20:28, Turkish said: I seem to remember Paul Rideout getting a fair bit of grief despite being a good player Expand Rideout used to get stick because ha wasn't as fast as Rod Wallace, or as skilful as MLT. A player with all those attributes would have been worth more than Van Basten 3 of us moved our season tickets from the West to the East stand because we got fed up with the constant moaning,
Toussaint Posted 13 March, 2021 Posted 13 March, 2021 Rasiak went right off the boil and drew a lot of ire. I personally had it in for Cockerill, not sure why, I was mid screaming abuse at him one time when he banged in a stunning 30yd volley. Made me look a tit!
Chewy Posted 13 March, 2021 Posted 13 March, 2021 Mane Pelle morgan if we’re talking about scapegoating people 5 mins into their careers, that is. Quashie seemed the focal point of all the anti Harry sentiment but wasn’t our worst player imho. George Lawrence going back a while for some reason
saintwbu Posted 13 March, 2021 Posted 13 March, 2021 Stephens gets abuse for everything he does wrong, and normally gets abuse for everything someone else does wrong too. An interesting thread would be ‘players who seem to be immune to criticism’, Hojbjerg and Bednarek definitely seemed to have magic powers to avoid criticism for anything they did/do wrong.
Noodles34 Posted 13 March, 2021 Posted 13 March, 2021 On 13/03/2021 at 09:16, Chewy said: Mane Pelle morgan if we’re talking about scapegoating people 5 mins into their careers, that is. Quashie seemed the focal point of all the anti Harry sentiment but wasn’t our worst player imho. George Lawrence going back a while for some reason Expand Since when was Snederlein ever a scapegoat? what was the reason George Lawrence was?
Lord Duckhunter Posted 13 March, 2021 Posted 13 March, 2021 On 13/03/2021 at 13:03, Noodles34 said: what was the reason George Lawrence was? Expand He was pretty headless, but he suffered from breaking into a side with class players all over. Personally I remember him as more of a cult figure than a scapegoat, but it was years ago and a lot of ale has been sank in the intervening years.....
Charlie Wayman Posted 13 March, 2021 Posted 13 March, 2021 Let's try this the other way around. Who has never been a scapegoat? Lambert Sydenham Moran
Turkish Posted 13 March, 2021 Author Posted 13 March, 2021 On 13/03/2021 at 13:03, Noodles34 said: Since when was Snederlein ever a scapegoat? what was the reason George Lawrence was? Expand I remember Sniderlein getting a bit of grief in his early days when he was still establishing himself and trying to find his best position. I think this was more to do with the fact he cost us £1m when we were absolutely skint rather than anything to do with him, fans were expecting someone to come in and made an immediate impact rather than needing a couple of seasons to develop.
Dell McDellFace Posted 13 March, 2021 Posted 13 March, 2021 I will raise you Carlton Palmer, Jim Magilton, and Peter Wells
Noodles34 Posted 13 March, 2021 Posted 13 March, 2021 On 13/03/2021 at 13:12, Lord Duckhunter said: He was pretty headless, but he suffered from breaking into a side with class players all over. Personally I remember him as more of a cult figure than a scapegoat, but it was years ago and a lot of ale has been sank in the intervening years..... Expand To be honest, I really meant that back in those days, there wa a pretty good reason why he might have been a scapegoat. Hence the name.
Lord Duckhunter Posted 13 March, 2021 Posted 13 March, 2021 On 13/03/2021 at 15:42, Noodles34 said: To be honest, I really meant that back in those days, there wa a pretty good reason why he might have been a scapegoat. Hence the name. Expand There was absolutely nothing racist about it, if that’s what you’re implying.
Turkish Posted 13 March, 2021 Author Posted 13 March, 2021 On 13/03/2021 at 17:53, Lord Duckhunter said: There was absolutely nothing racist about it, if that’s what you’re implying. Expand Indeed, Ruben Agboola and Danny Wallace we’re very popular at the same time
Lee On Solent Saint Posted 13 March, 2021 Posted 13 March, 2021 George Lawrence was one of my favourite players in my early Dell days. Loved the fact that he didn't know what he was going to do next, let alone opposition players.
Lord Duckhunter Posted 13 March, 2021 Posted 13 March, 2021 Did I dream it, or did he have an absolute stormer against Man Utd once.
hackedoff Posted 13 March, 2021 Posted 13 March, 2021 On 13/03/2021 at 18:23, Lee On Solent Saint said: George Lawrence was one of my favourite players in my early Dell days. Loved the fact that he didn't know what he was going to do next, let alone opposition players. Expand "Chicken George" or just a headless chicken,discuss. My vote goes to Steve Baker.
Noodles34 Posted 13 March, 2021 Posted 13 March, 2021 (edited) On 13/03/2021 at 17:53, Lord Duckhunter said: There was absolutely nothing racist about it, if that’s what you’re implying. Expand Not implying to you mate at all. Apologies if it came across that way. but it was a way of life for some back then. Edited 13 March, 2021 by Noodles34
egg Posted 13 March, 2021 Posted 13 March, 2021 On 13/03/2021 at 19:55, Noodles34 said: Benali certainly was Expand I'd go the other way. He got praise way above his ability. Tadic on the other hand was scapegoated big time.
egg Posted 13 March, 2021 Posted 13 March, 2021 On 13/03/2021 at 18:23, Lee On Solent Saint said: George Lawrence was one of my favourite players in my early Dell days. Loved the fact that he didn't know what he was going to do next, let alone opposition players. Expand I loved Lawrence for the same reason. The only winger I can remember who would run towards the corner flag when past his man raher than towards the goal. If he got his head up more often who could have been really good.
Lord Duckhunter Posted 13 March, 2021 Posted 13 March, 2021 On 13/03/2021 at 20:01, egg said: I'd go the other way. He got praise way above his ability. Expand Absolutely spot on.
Ted Bates Statue Posted 13 March, 2021 Posted 13 March, 2021 On 12/03/2021 at 22:14, Turkish said: ✅ isn’t it amusing that our arguably best players from the last 2 season have been Reed signings. Expand Yes, happy to eat my words over some of the garbage he signed that ended up alright. Perhaps he might be viewed a little more kindly on here had he not banged on about what a mastermind he was, only to disappear from view once results took a turn for the worse.
adrian lord Posted 13 March, 2021 Posted 13 March, 2021 (edited) I used to scapegoat Rory Delap for his much -vaunted, endless long throws which floated harmlessly into the oppos' box and never ever resulted in any goals. Edited 13 March, 2021 by adrian lord
Chris cooper Posted 13 March, 2021 Posted 13 March, 2021 On 13/03/2021 at 22:23, adrian lord said: I used to scapegoat Rory Delap for his much -vaunted, endless long throws which floated harmlessly into the oppos' box and never ever resulted in any goals. Expand Recall him scoring an amazing over headkick at st Mary’s Can’t remember who against ?
Turkish Posted 13 March, 2021 Author Posted 13 March, 2021 On 13/03/2021 at 23:28, Chris cooper said: Recall him scoring an amazing over headkick at st Mary’s Can’t remember who against ? Expand Spurs. 1
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