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I dont know why we are surprised that politicians believe that the law is for other people! 

I wonder how many work in Downing Street everyday? Therefore having a gathering is probably expected, I dont condone it at all.

Boris lost me after he switched sides in the Brexit debacle. (not that I ever liked him) especially as a top politician told me that he was completely crazy and a liar

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13 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

Which begs the question 'Why was nothing said or done at the time ?".

Ive just read that Sue Gray will now not investigate potentially criminal aspects of Partygate. The Met will only investigate the criminal. So basically the evidence against Johnson has been broken into two weaker discrete parts instead of one whole. Clever. Absolutely atrocious but clever. The disgusting sleazeball might still get off. 

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1 hour ago, buctootim said:

Ive just read that Sue Gray will now not investigate potentially criminal aspects of Partygate. The Met will only investigate the criminal. So basically the evidence against Johnson has been broken into two weaker discrete parts instead of one whole. Clever. Absolutely atrocious but clever. The disgusting sleazeball might still get off. 

The inquiry was set up such that any 'potentially criminal' evidence would be passed on, Sue Gray cannot investigate this as she is not a Legal Officer. The one thing I have taken from today's statements is that the Gray Inquiry report will be placed in the public domain, something that the rules on the Ministerial Code do not allow for - the release of information under the Code is at the discretion of the PM, who is the only person that would normally get to see it.

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1 hour ago, buctootim said:

Ive just read that Sue Gray will now not investigate potentially criminal aspects of Partygate. The Met will only investigate the criminal. So basically the evidence against Johnson has been broken into two weaker discrete parts instead of one whole. Clever. Absolutely atrocious but clever. The disgusting sleazeball might still get off. 

thats politics for you. I think this stuff has been going on forever and a day. Just wait for the New Years Honours

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7 hours ago, buctootim said:

Ive just read that Sue Gray will now not investigate potentially criminal aspects of Partygate. The Met will only investigate the criminal. So basically the evidence against Johnson has been broken into two weaker discrete parts instead of one whole. Clever. Absolutely atrocious but clever. The disgusting sleazeball might still get off. 

This shouldn’t be a surprise to you. The parameters of the Gray inquiry were always that, if events were uncovered that might be criminal in nature, they would be forwarded on to the police. The inquiry’ terms of reference are here:

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1039751/Terms_of_Reference_-_Cabinet_Secretary_Investigations_-_December_2021.docx.pdf

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The never ending story:

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Metropolitan Police officers 'joked about raping wives and black babies dying', watchdog finds
The IOPC made a series of recommendations to the force after it came under immense pressure for mishandling the Sarah Everard case

Still, at least Cressida didn't let her officers break lockdown.

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On 10/03/2021 at 15:25, Guided Missile said:

How much worse can it get for her and the Met? Jesus, from Charles da Silva e de Menezes, knife crime in London, Operation Midland and the criminal investigation into Leon Brittan to a Met cop charged with kidnap and murder, when is she going to resign? Total disgrace, useless at her job and obviously a token LGBT appointment.

 A year ago...

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1 hour ago, Guided Missile said:

 A year ago...

Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

Despite that, Khan did the right thing. It’s a shame that lack of confidence in the current PM doesn’t have the same end result.

As for the Met Police, as pointed out in Question Time tonight, the problems in the Met go deeper than Cressida Dick’s leadership.

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this is a real hammer blow for equality in the Police force. the first female and LGBT hounded out of her position by scum who saw the gender and sexuality first and the police officer second. Disgusting comments on here, some of you really do live in the dark ages. This is not a day to celebrate, this is a day to see how much work still needs to be done before anyone who isnt a white, middle/old aged man is given a fair crack at a top job in policing, how depressing.

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6 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

A leader of an organisation not throwing it publicly under the bus, who'd have thought it. Good to see her reference point was a male copper from the 70's, yeah the met was whiter than whiter (no pun intended) in those day. 🙄

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2 hours ago, Turkish said:

this is a real hammer blow for equality in the Police force. the first female and LGBT hounded out of her position by scum who saw the gender and sexuality first and the police officer second. Disgusting comments on here, some of you really do live in the dark ages. This is not a day to celebrate, this is a day to see how much work still needs to be done before anyone who isnt a white, middle/old aged man is given a fair crack at a top job in policing, how depressing.

Either this is a sick joke, or you do not have a scooby about the point made in the initial post. Any person being appointed to such a post as Police Commissioner of the Met should be competent to carry out their responsibilities, regardless of race, religion or sexual preference. It was obvious to me that Dick was appointed to the position, as a box ticking exercise, because her record prior to the appointment was lamentable.

She was the Gold Commander who authorised officers to continue pursuit and surveillance, and ordered that Jean Charles de Menezes be prevented from entering the Tube system. The Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC) launched two investigations. Stockwell 1, the findings of which were initially kept secret, concluded that none of the officers would face disciplinary charges. Stockwell 2 strongly criticised the police command structure and communications to the public.

Stockwell 2 was the reason she should never have been given the job and subsequent events under her command reinforced the views in the opening post. De Menezes and his family were the first victims of her incompetence. Sarah Everard and her family were the last. She got the job because she was female and LGBT, not because she was up to the job. Hopefully we'll get a gay/straight/white/black/man/woman who will has the balls (or not) to ensure the Met is completely re-organised. 

 

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1 hour ago, Guided Missile said:

Either this is a sick joke, or you do not have a scooby about the point made in the initial post. Any person being appointed to such a post as Police Commissioner of the Met should be competent to carry out their responsibilities, regardless of race, religion or sexual preference. It was obvious to me that Dick was appointed to the position, as a box ticking exercise, because her record prior to the appointment was lamentable.

She was the Gold Commander who authorised officers to continue pursuit and surveillance, and ordered that Jean Charles de Menezes be prevented from entering the Tube system. The Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC) launched two investigations. Stockwell 1, the findings of which were initially kept secret, concluded that none of the officers would face disciplinary charges. Stockwell 2 strongly criticised the police command structure and communications to the public.

Stockwell 2 was the reason she should never have been given the job and subsequent events under her command reinforced the views in the opening post. De Menezes and his family were the first victims of her incompetence. Sarah Everard and her family were the last. She got the job because she was female and LGBT, not because she was up to the job. Hopefully we'll get a gay/straight/white/black/man/woman who will has the balls (or not) to ensure the Met is completely re-organised. 

 

Irony clearly not taught to thickoes at Pompey Poly. 🙂

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11 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

What we will get as the next Commissioner is somebody willing to conclude the Partygate inquiry to Boris' satisfaction.

Will probably go after Cummings as the whistleblower instead. Can share a cell with Assange and Edward Snowden.  

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24 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

What we will get as the next Commissioner is somebody willing to conclude the Partygate inquiry to Boris' satisfaction.

Sadly I think you are right.

The timing of her resignation does seem odd. I know her position has been untenable for some time, and she has blamed it on lack of confidence from Sadiq Khan, but undoubtedly she would have been under pressure from the govt over Partygate, so has she perhaps jumped before she was pushed? Do they hold something incriminating against her and threatened her if the Met didn't deliver the 'right' outcome? 

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On 31/01/2022 at 20:29, badgerx16 said:

CD is safe in her job for the forseeable future as Boris won't allow somebody else to become Commissioner whilst the Gray follow-up is under way.

Flip

17 hours ago, badgerx16 said:

What we will get as the next Commissioner is somebody willing to conclude the Partygate inquiry to Boris' satisfaction.

Flop :mcinnes:

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8 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said:

Flip

Flop :mcinnes:

The first quote suggests that Boris wants a friendly face in charge of the Met, and that nobody pushes her out. The second quote suggests that, with her going of her own volition, only a few hours after publicly stating she was staying in post, Boris will want a friendly face in charge of the Met.

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49 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

Perhaps you should address that remark to Priti Patel? Instead the Home Secretary actually extended her contract.

I could imagine the outrage had the Govt binned her.  You would have been livid, claiming cover up and such like.

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35 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said:

I thought they were one and the same person. Have you ever seen them in the same room together?

Yes, but I'd much rather they hadn't left the webcam on to be honest. #frottage #MentallyScarredForLife.

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31 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

I could imagine the outrage had the Govt binned her.  You would have been livid, claiming cover up and such like.

How do you manage to come to that conclusion Delldays/Batman when much of the criticism of this Government is levelled at its constant inability to deal with ineptitude from the level of PM downwards? Her resignation was hastened by a left leaning a mayor and yet the only uproar as far as I can see came from Priti Patel herself - probably because she realised how ineffectual that made her look. 

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2 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

How do you manage to come to that conclusion Delldays/Batman when much of the criticism of this Government is levelled at its constant inability to deal with ineptitude from the level of PM downwards? Her resignation was hastened by a left leaning a mayor and yet the only uproar as far as I can see came from Priti Patel herself - probably because she realised how ineffectual that made her look. 

You'd blame the Conservatives / Boris Johnson if you used your credit card on a heavy weekend in Skegness.

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6 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

You'd blame the Conservatives / Boris Johnson if you used your credit card on a heavy weekend in Skegness.

Funny you should say that but he was blaming The government for his credit card debt on TUI 🤣🤣🤣🤣

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On 13/02/2022 at 11:52, AlexLaw76 said:

You'd blame the Conservatives / Boris Johnson if you used your credit card on a heavy weekend in Skegness.

Having gone to all the trouble of creating a new persona on here Delldays/Batman, the least you could do is to raise your level of put downs to above your usual 6th form efforts. Little wonder the navy put you in the galley and away from the rest of the crew. A six month tour of duty must have seemed like a year for your poor comrades. So back to your attempted put down, here is a little hint. When millions of people think that the PM and his cabinet are useless, it is a bit pathetic calling out just one of their critics. It might make you feel better about yourself and ingratiate you to the forum WUM, but it serves no other purpose. Just as long as you are comfortable with the most inept PM in our lifetime leading the country in what could be the biggest threat to this nation since WW2, all’s well eh?

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2 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

Having gone to all the trouble of creating a new persona on here Delldays/Batman, the least you could do is to raise your level of put downs to above your usual 6th form efforts. Little wonder the navy put you in the galley and away from the rest of the crew. A six month tour of duty must have seemed like a year for your poor comrades. So back to your attempted put down, here is a little hint. When millions of people think that the PM and his cabinet are useless, it is a bit pathetic calling out just one of their critics. It might make you feel better about yourself and ingratiate you to the forum WUM, but it serves no other purpose. Just as long as you are comfortable with the most inept PM in our lifetime leading the country in what could be the biggest threat to this nation since WW2, all’s well eh?

Self awareness isn't for everyone, hey Soggy.

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13 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

Having gone to all the trouble of creating a new persona on here Delldays/Batman, the least you could do is to raise your level of put downs to above your usual 6th form efforts. Little wonder the navy put you in the galley and away from the rest of the crew. A six month tour of duty must have seemed like a year for your poor comrades. So back to your attempted put down, here is a little hint. When millions of people think that the PM and his cabinet are useless, it is a bit pathetic calling out just one of their critics. It might make you feel better about yourself and ingratiate you to the forum WUM, but it serves no other purpose. Just as long as you are comfortable with the most inept PM in our lifetime leading the country in what could be the biggest threat to this nation since WW2, all’s well eh?

What the hell are you on about? 

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