badgerx16 Posted 5 October, 2021 Share Posted 5 October, 2021 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said: I’m not saying GM’s opinion will make a blind bit of difference either way, but surely there’s a legitimate debate to be had There is but, 34 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said: ..... “he only wants her sacked because she’s a Les”. IMO this is a factor.. ( I admit that I have made it part of my life's work to slag him off at every opportunity, and to oppose just about everything he posts, so maybe my response to him on this thread is slanted. ) Edited 5 October, 2021 by badgerx16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 5 October, 2021 Share Posted 5 October, 2021 37 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said: Are all opinions on Ralph moot because GAO won’t sack him, what about Boris, are they moot as well. Surely people’s opinions aren’t moot if it builds momentum towards her sacking. I’m not saying GM’s opinion will make a blind bit of difference either way, but surely there’s a legitimate debate to be had without resorting to “he only wants her sacked because she’s a Les”. Sacking public officials because they have become whipping boys for the tabloids is a really dodgy road to travel down. All it will lead to is ever fewer quality people wanting the job, just as has happened with politicians. I have absolutely no idea if Cressida Dick is good at her job or not - and nor have 99.9% of her critics. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 6 October, 2021 Share Posted 6 October, 2021 (edited) 14 hours ago, buctootim said: Sacking public officials because they have become whipping boys for the tabloids is a really dodgy road to travel down. All it will lead to is ever fewer quality people wanting the job, just as has happened with politicians. I have absolutely no idea if Cressida Dick is good at her job or not - and nor have 99.9% of her critics. You’d be calling for a Tory Health Secretary to be sacked if there’s people laying in corridors or still in ambulances because we’ve run out of beds this winter. That person can’t really manage micro manage capacity, but will still be held accountable. The same applies here, the Met is a shit storm and somebody should be accountable. GM might want her sacked because she prefers other chicks, but you want her to remain in post for the same reason. All this “I don’t know if she’s good at her job” defence, won’t be afforded to Tories. Only people that most Tories want sacked. Edited 6 October, 2021 by Lord Duckhunter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 6 October, 2021 Share Posted 6 October, 2021 22 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said: You’d be calling for a Tory Health Secretary to be sacked if there’s people laying in corridors or still in ambulances because we’ve run out of beds this winter. That person can’t really manage micro manage capacity, but will still be held accountable. The same applies here, the Met is a shit storm and somebody should be accountable. GM might want her sacked because she prefers other chicks, but you want her to remain in post for the same reason. All this “I don’t know if she’s good at her job” defence, won’t be afforded to Tories. Only people that most Tories want sacked. There is a huge difference between being an elected politician and career professional. Politicians are made or broken by public opinion -thats the rules of the game where you benefit or lose depending on whether you tell a good joke or shag somebody the public approve of. I dont want the same JD for a Police Commissioner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 6 October, 2021 Share Posted 6 October, 2021 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said: You’d be calling for a Tory Health Secretary to be sacked if there’s people laying in corridors or still in ambulances because we’ve run out of beds this winter. That person can’t really manage micro manage capacity, but will still be held accountable. The same applies here, the Met is a shit storm and somebody should be accountable. GM might want her sacked because she prefers other chicks, but you want her to remain in post for the same reason. All this “I don’t know if she’s good at her job” defence, won’t be afforded to Tories. Only people that most Tories want sacked. Isn't the accurate comparison to the Health Secretary in this instance the Home Secretary? Edited 6 October, 2021 by CB Fry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 6 October, 2021 Share Posted 6 October, 2021 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said: You’d be calling for a Tory Health Secretary to be sacked if there’s people laying in corridors or still in ambulances because we’ve run out of beds this winter. That person can’t really manage micro manage capacity, but will still be held accountable. The same applies here, the Met is a shit storm and somebody should be accountable. GM might want her sacked because she prefers other chicks, but you want her to remain in post for the same reason. All this “I don’t know if she’s good at her job” defence, won’t be afforded to Tories. Only people that most Tories want sacked. Maybe the Met is a shit storm because of the cuts made by the Tories and not decisions made by Dick? I couldn't give a monkeys if she is sacked for doing a genuinely bad job but she shouldn't be forced out by some gammon-led media witch hunt. There needs to be an enquiry into the Sarah Everard murder and anyone found culpable should be help to account - including Dick. Edited 6 October, 2021 by aintforever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 6 October, 2021 Share Posted 6 October, 2021 1 minute ago, aintforever said: Maybe the Met is a shit storm because of the cuts made by the Tories and not decisions made by Dick? I couldn't give a monkeys if she is sacked for doing a genuinely bad job but she shouldn't be forced out by some gammon-led media witch hunt. There needs to be an enquiry into the Sarah Everard murder and anyone found culpable should be help to account - including Dick. Is Harriet Harmon a gammon? She’s probably the highest profile person calling for her sacking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 6 October, 2021 Share Posted 6 October, 2021 2 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said: Is Harriet Harmon a gammon? She’s probably the highest profile person calling for her sacking I don't have an issue with anyone wanting her sacked if they genuinely think she's doing a bad job, especial an MP in London. Everyone has an opinion. We can all read between the lines of certain posters on here though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 6 October, 2021 Share Posted 6 October, 2021 3 hours ago, aintforever said: Maybe the Met is a shit storm because of the cuts made by the Tories and not decisions made by Dick? I couldn't give a monkeys if she is sacked for doing a genuinely bad job but she shouldn't be forced out by some gammon-led media witch hunt. There needs to be an enquiry into the Sarah Everard murder and anyone found culpable should be help to account - including Dick. Wow, that must be a record even for you - just two days for you to flip flop this time. Are you Boris in disguise? On 04/10/2021 at 18:35, aintforever said: The obsession with Cressida Dick is just laughable, I expect most who have it in for her don’t have a clue how good she is at her job, what the role involves, or even live in the area her police covers. Just old Gammons looking for a reason to stick the knife in. Shouldn’t you be more concerned about how well the Weston Super-Mare Police is being run? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 6 October, 2021 Share Posted 6 October, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Weston Super Saint said: Wow, that must be a record even for you - just two days for you to flip flop this time. Are you Boris in disguise? I haven't flip flopped at all. I don't have a problem with her or the MET being criticised, I have said on here before I thought their handling of the Sarah Everard vigils was poor. Wether she is under-performing or not doesn't explain the weird obsession of you Gammons on here with the performance of a Police Commissioner in an area you don't even live. I can't remember many other threads about police commissioners on here from you law and order enthusiasts. Edited 6 October, 2021 by aintforever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 7 October, 2021 Share Posted 7 October, 2021 14 hours ago, aintforever said: I haven't flip flopped at all. I don't have a problem with her or the MET being criticised, I have said on here before I thought their handling of the Sarah Everard vigils was poor. Wether she is under-performing or not doesn't explain the weird obsession of you Gammons on here with the performance of a Police Commissioner in an area you don't even live. I can't remember many other threads about police commissioners on here from you law and order enthusiasts. Lol. Monday - nobody has a clue how good she is at her job so no-one can criticise her. No-one can have an opinion on a police force in an area they don't live in. Wednesday - you don't have an issue with people wanting her to be sacked for doing a bad job (the same job nobody knew how good she was at doing it on Monday). Wednesday - no-one can have an opinion on a police force in an area they don't live in. Flip Flop Flip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 7 October, 2021 Share Posted 7 October, 2021 8 hours ago, Weston Super Saint said: Lol. Monday - nobody has a clue how good she is at her job so no-one can criticise her. No-one can have an opinion on a police force in an area they don't live in. Wednesday - you don't have an issue with people wanting her to be sacked for doing a bad job (the same job nobody knew how good she was at doing it on Monday). Wednesday - no-one can have an opinion on a police force in an area they don't live in. Flip Flop Flip You have missed the point as usual. I have never had a problem with people criticising any police commissioner, I have criticised the MET on here a few times. I'm just laughing at the sad obsession you have with Dick. Why don't you just admit it, you don't have a sudden enthusiastic interest in policing, or a clue of how well she is doing her job, you just saw a pic of some police taking the knee in London and your little gammon brain exploded with rage and you want to get the lesbian sacked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 7 October, 2021 Share Posted 7 October, 2021 4 minutes ago, aintforever said: .......the sad obsession you have with Dick. Ooh err Matron ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 7 October, 2021 Share Posted 7 October, 2021 26 minutes ago, aintforever said: You have missed the point as usual. I have never had a problem with people criticising any police commissioner, There is only one police commissioner and that is the head of the Met. Thursday we're back to being allowed to criticise the Dame even if we don't live in the region. Full house of flip, flop, flip, flop in just 3 days. Astonishing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 8 October, 2021 Share Posted 8 October, 2021 14 hours ago, Weston Super Saint said: There is only one police commissioner and that is the head of the Met. Thursday we're back to being allowed to criticise the Dame even if we don't live in the region. Full house of flip, flop, flip, flop in just 3 days. Astonishing. Going all MLG here, but the City of London police has a Commissioner and they are separate from the Met. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 8 October, 2021 Share Posted 8 October, 2021 2 hours ago, The Cat said: Going all MLG here, but the City of London police has a Commissioner and they are separate from the Met. Who have finally appointed a woman to head them up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 8 October, 2021 Share Posted 8 October, 2021 20 hours ago, aintforever said: I have criticised the MET on here a few times. Do you live in the Greater London area? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 8 October, 2021 Share Posted 8 October, 2021 Good to see so many (Met) police resources being utilised efficiently (basically just stood around watching!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuel Posted 8 October, 2021 Share Posted 8 October, 2021 Surely, eventually youtube will post a video of one of these idiots getting themselves run over. When it happens, it will get a like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 27 October, 2021 Share Posted 27 October, 2021 Sadly, these news pieces are no longer shocking. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-59050083 Quote A serving Metropolitan Police officer has been charged with rape. PC Adam Zaman, 28, is alleged to have carried out the attack in the City of London on Sunday evening when he was off duty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 27 October, 2021 Share Posted 27 October, 2021 43 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said: Sadly, these news pieces are no longer shocking. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-59050083 But at least he has been charged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 29 October, 2021 Share Posted 29 October, 2021 And another one https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-59089421 Quote A serving Metropolitan Police officer has been charged with a number of child sex offences. Det Con Francois Olwage, 51, from Stevenage, allegedly arranged to meet a girl he believed to be 13 years old, Hertfordshire Police said. Looks like the place to be, if you're a sick pervert / rapist / murderer and also want to be a police officer, join the Met, they'll have anyone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guided Missile Posted 29 October, 2021 Author Share Posted 29 October, 2021 32 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said: And another one https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-59089421 Looks like the place to be, if you're a sick pervert / rapist / murderer and also want to be a police officer, join the Met, they'll have anyone! Lesbian basher... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guided Missile Posted 29 October, 2021 Author Share Posted 29 October, 2021 On 30/09/2021 at 21:56, Guided Missile said: So, for all the fucking idiots on this thread that think the Met and Cressida Dick are doing a good job, wait for the emerging news over the next few days, the first in tomorrow's Telegraph: Worth repeating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 29 October, 2021 Share Posted 29 October, 2021 43 minutes ago, Guided Missile said: Worth repeating. Nothing you post is worth repeating. It is bad enough having to see it first time around. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guided Missile Posted 2 November, 2021 Author Share Posted 2 November, 2021 Surprised there's still a debate about Dick: Quote Two Metropolitan Police officers have pleaded guilty to taking and sharing photographs of two dead sisters who were brutally murdered in a London park. PC Deniz Jaffer, 47, and PC Jamie Lewis, 33, admitted one count of misconduct in a public office after taking images with the bodies of Nicole Smallman and Bibaa Henry. They also admitted superimposing their faces on the pictures and sharing images of the scene with other officers via WhatsApp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 2 November, 2021 Share Posted 2 November, 2021 That I'm afraid is an example of how poor the canteen culture is at the Met. Who the fuck would think it's ok to take and distribute photos of murdered people. The Met has got a lot of work to do. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 2 November, 2021 Share Posted 2 November, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Guided Missile said: Surprised there's still a debate about Dick: I suggest that rather than posting on here you write to your MP, the Home Secretary, the Prime Minister, and the Times. Nothing said on here will change anything, nor relieve the anger, hatred, and frustration you feel. Edited 2 November, 2021 by badgerx16 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecuk268 Posted 10 December, 2021 Share Posted 10 December, 2021 This a an appalling story of police negligence, lies and reluctance to take action. They have finally admitted their mistakes but no officer has been disciplined and some have been promoted. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-59593887 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rallyboy Posted 11 December, 2021 Share Posted 11 December, 2021 Her career is on a worse trajectory than Ryan Bertrand, and she's less effective than him. The Met needs fresh leadership to rebuild relationships destroyed by various examples of lazy, dodgy and inept policing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 21 December, 2021 Share Posted 21 December, 2021 Not just wrong uns in the Met... https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-59744052 Quote The head of the police officers' association has been suspended after he was accused of sexual misconduct. John Apter, the national chair of the Police Federation of England and Wales, has also been suspended by Hampshire Constabulary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Corbyn Posted 4 January, 2022 Share Posted 4 January, 2022 Starting watching the Stephen Port drama-mentary. Another huge cock up by the Met. I really don't understand how Dick survives scandal after scandal. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 4 January, 2022 Share Posted 4 January, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Jeremy Corbyn said: Starting watching the Stephen Port drama-mentary. Another huge cock up by the Met. I really don't understand how Dick survives scandal after scandal. Didn't all that happen before she was commissioner? I can't remember there being a Baron Hogan-Howe thread, surely there is one though as many on here seem to have a keen interest in London's policing. Edited 4 January, 2022 by aintforever 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 4 January, 2022 Share Posted 4 January, 2022 1 hour ago, aintforever said: Didn't all that happen before she was commissioner? Yeah but lets blame her anyway. She's a dyke she deserves it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 4 January, 2022 Share Posted 4 January, 2022 On 02/11/2021 at 11:39, Guided Missile said: Surprised there's still a debate about Dick: You think they shouldn't have been prosecuted and sacked? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Corbyn Posted 4 January, 2022 Share Posted 4 January, 2022 6 minutes ago, buctootim said: Yeah but lets blame her anyway. She's a dyke she deserves it. Jesus. How do people still have this sort of awful, homophobic mentality in this day and age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 4 January, 2022 Share Posted 4 January, 2022 Just now, Jeremy Corbyn said: Jesus. How do people still have this sort of awful, homophobic mentality in this day and age. Incredible isnt it. Almost like someone is translating your coded comments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Corbyn Posted 4 January, 2022 Share Posted 4 January, 2022 2 minutes ago, buctootim said: Incredible isnt it. Almost like someone is translating your coded comments What coded comments? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 4 January, 2022 Share Posted 4 January, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Jeremy Corbyn said: What coded comments? You tell me. Why would you hold a woman responsible for events that she had absolutely no involvement in and happened two years before she was even appointed? Edited 4 January, 2022 by buctootim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 4 January, 2022 Share Posted 4 January, 2022 13 minutes ago, Jeremy Corbyn said: Jesus. How do people still have this sort of awful, homophobic mentality in this day and age. Such an opinion was a strong motivating factor in the creation of this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Corbyn Posted 4 January, 2022 Share Posted 4 January, 2022 3 minutes ago, buctootim said: You tell me. Why would you hold a woman responsible for events that she had absolutely no involvement in and happened two years before she was even appointed? Why would I need to tell you? You made the accusation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 4 January, 2022 Share Posted 4 January, 2022 God bless Saintsweb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guided Missile Posted 11 January, 2022 Author Share Posted 11 January, 2022 Quote Police officer from same unit as Wayne Couzens accused of rape by four more women Metropolitan Police officer David Carrick now faces a total of 29 offences against eight women dating between 2009 and 2020 Read it and weep. It'll be interesting to see the leftie woke crowd on this forum dare to defend Dick now. She must have something on Priti Patel and the rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 11 January, 2022 Share Posted 11 January, 2022 9 minutes ago, Guided Missile said: Read it and weep. It'll be interesting to see the leftie woke crowd on this forum dare to defend Dick now. She must have something on Priti Patel and the rest. Not being "leftie woke", as I do not believe she should ever have been given the job, but your crusade is ridiculous. Once the first complaint was made this officer was arrested, and then appeals for further victims made. Is CD supposed to have some sort of psychic super-power that enables her to automatically detect crimes committed by her officers before they are reported ? You cannot use failures of vetting against CD as this officer joined before she became Commissioner, and indeed so were many of the offences he is charged with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rallyboy Posted 11 January, 2022 Share Posted 11 January, 2022 She definitely has stuff on No.10 - like her own officers' records of who signed in for the illegal party that the Met did security for. All she needs to do now is organise what proper police forces call 'an investigation', even if it does implicate her own staff. We all know that the PM didn't realise he was at his own party, that he had arranged, in his own garden, but at least the Met could crack on with getting some innocent civil servant sacked. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecuk268 Posted 11 January, 2022 Share Posted 11 January, 2022 60 people have a piss-up in the Downing Street garden and the police don't notice (or chose to ignore it) while 2 women who drove 10 minutes to have a stroll by a Derbyshire reservoir and drink coffee were accused of having a picnic and fined £200 each. This sums up the Met nicely: https://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/society/a-hundred-people-bringing-their-own-booze-and-other-things-the-met-police-havent-noticed-20220111216145 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rooney Posted 11 January, 2022 Share Posted 11 January, 2022 Dick and Johnson run off together at request of Tory Back Benchers, in order to take the heat off both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 16 January, 2022 Share Posted 16 January, 2022 Shocking responses from Met over these parties breaching the rules. Some of the statements are comical Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 25 January, 2022 Share Posted 25 January, 2022 ÇD finally grows a pair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 25 January, 2022 Share Posted 25 January, 2022 Many comments on this thread about the dire performance of the MET. Largely excused to be fair. CD has been an atrocious leader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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