tajjuk Posted 5 August, 2021 Share Posted 5 August, 2021 (edited) Kind of either way on Vestergaard, do think he adds something to the team and showed in the first half of the season he can be very good. At the same I wouldn't say he was integral and seems to have plenty of mistakes in him. So I'd take him signing a new contract and going for about £15-20 million which we re-invest, don't think losing him on a free does much for us though. It's also probably the position we are least worried about, as in Salisu I think could be better defensively anyway and is certainly more mobile, Bednerak and Stephens are ok (would be great to do better but we don't have the cash) and we now have the guy from Chelsea in who could be 4th choice and I wouldn't be too worried. Edited 5 August, 2021 by tajjuk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Albert Posted 5 August, 2021 Share Posted 5 August, 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy the Kidd Posted 5 August, 2021 Share Posted 5 August, 2021 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said: Where? Name names, which posters didn’t want him but are now pissed off we’re not getting him. Maybe pissed off wasnt the right word. And I got confused which forum i replied on, was on another one. Edited 5 August, 2021 by Billy the Kidd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuckyNumber7 Posted 5 August, 2021 Share Posted 5 August, 2021 Whilst our defence was atrocious last year, Vestergaard was far and away our best CB. I'm not opposed to selling him if we can get a decent fee, but Salisu is still very much unproven, and Bednarek and Stephens fill me with dread. Would definitely need a new CB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted 5 August, 2021 Share Posted 5 August, 2021 I've heard we've registered an interest in Sander Berge at Sheffield United. Would be a welcome addition for the right price but suspect others higher up the food chain will be ahead in the queue. Could be one to watch the closer we get to deadline day... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 5 August, 2021 Share Posted 5 August, 2021 1 minute ago, Bailey said: I've heard we've registered an interest in Sander Berge at Sheffield United. Would be a welcome addition for the right price but suspect others higher up the food chain will be ahead in the queue. Could be one to watch the closer we get to deadline day... Wasn't he £20m? Good player though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Matty 76 Posted 5 August, 2021 Share Posted 5 August, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Bailey said: I've heard we've registered an interest in Sander Berge at Sheffield United. Would be a welcome addition for the right price but suspect others higher up the food chain will be ahead in the queue. Could be one to watch the closer we get to deadline day... Was just reading that he's available for around £13m and Napoli are interested. He was seriously highly rated when he came over. Edit: Added source Edited 5 August, 2021 by Saint Matty 76 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolan Posted 5 August, 2021 Share Posted 5 August, 2021 6 minutes ago, Bailey said: I've heard we've registered an interest in Sander Berge at Sheffield United. Would be a welcome addition for the right price but suspect others higher up the food chain will be ahead in the queue. Could be one to watch the closer we get to deadline day... Berge and Sørloth have the same agents. Curious we've been linked with both on the same day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted 5 August, 2021 Share Posted 5 August, 2021 6 minutes ago, Nolan said: Berge and Sørloth have the same agents. Curious we've been linked with both on the same day. Interesting...wasn't aware of that. As I said, maybe one to keep an eye on the closer to deadline day we get - if Berge doesn't get the big move he undoubtedly desires, we may have an opportunity... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 5 August, 2021 Share Posted 5 August, 2021 We play three matches before the transfer window shuts. If we are bottom with no points and no replacement for Ings the pressure is really gonna be on those who run the club. They might wish games were still behind closed doors…… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Posted 5 August, 2021 Share Posted 5 August, 2021 How about Alassane Plea as a replacement for Ings? Monchengladbach will supposedly sell him for £15M. We were linked to him just before Claude Puel left - pretty sure Leandre Griffit thought it was a done deal by his tweets at the time - but they paid £25M for him which was more than we would pay I expect. He's 28 so a bit too old for our supposed recruitment strategy - but I think we need a bit of experience up front as well as some youthful potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 5 August, 2021 Share Posted 5 August, 2021 1 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuel Posted 5 August, 2021 Share Posted 5 August, 2021 Excellent news. Always thought he deserved a second chance. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 5 August, 2021 Share Posted 5 August, 2021 1 hour ago, saintwbu said: Sky reporting Palace in advanced talks with Armstrong… Sky sports normally have the worst sources around. Come up with some absolute crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northam soul Posted 5 August, 2021 Share Posted 5 August, 2021 7 minutes ago, Turkish said: And only £28 million as well. Absolute bargain 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Kent Saint Posted 5 August, 2021 Share Posted 5 August, 2021 1 hour ago, Matthew Le God said: You haven't linked to the source. I'd guess it is a rehash of the Athletic article which said he was an option, not that he is definitely signing. Yep we need a sloth up front . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimpin4rizeal Posted 5 August, 2021 Share Posted 5 August, 2021 Knowing us we will probably haggle and penny pinch over Armstrong or whoever our target is until the end of the window, possibly losing out in the process Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 5 August, 2021 Share Posted 5 August, 2021 5 minutes ago, Saint Garrett said: Sky sports normally have the worst sources around. Come up with some absolute crap. Nixon saying they are in for him but there are higher offers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gammon cheeks Posted 5 August, 2021 Share Posted 5 August, 2021 For fooks sake just sign Armstrong for 20million ......looks the real deal to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErwinK1961 Posted 5 August, 2021 Share Posted 5 August, 2021 Just now, SuperSAINT said: Nixon saying they are in for him but there are higher offers. Imagine all interested parties will get to the magic number eventually, so will come down to him and where he wants to be. Personally wouldn’t offer £20m. Wonder if we may firm up interest in that French lad with the 200 person family entourage, that all wanted a cut? Or whether we’ve walked away from that as too messy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 5 August, 2021 Share Posted 5 August, 2021 1 minute ago, ErwinK1961 said: Imagine all interested parties will get to the magic number eventually, so will come down to him and where he wants to be. Personally wouldn’t offer £20m. Wonder if we may firm up interest in that French lad with the 200 person family entourage, that all wanted a cut? Or whether we’ve walked away from that as too messy. Can’t imagine they would cause problems in the future 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hackedoff Posted 5 August, 2021 Share Posted 5 August, 2021 1 hour ago, Uncle Albert said: And will probably come up short on both accounts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiberalCommunist Posted 5 August, 2021 Share Posted 5 August, 2021 Its not buyers market now. That boat has sailed. Panic is setting in and prices are going up. The ill prepared are set to pay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Kucho Posted 5 August, 2021 Share Posted 5 August, 2021 (edited) Messi available for nothing, only wages.. Edited 5 August, 2021 by Dr. Kucho 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wsaint Posted 5 August, 2021 Share Posted 5 August, 2021 11 minutes ago, Dr. Kucho said: Messi available for nothing, only wages.. Welcome Messi. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 5 August, 2021 Share Posted 5 August, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Uncle Albert said: Muppets. Would imagine it’s a game of brinkmanship with Blackburn who are as badly and stupidly ruined as SFC by owners clueless about football, two shit boardrooms playing chicken. To say ‘cheap’ the day after selling the local lad and decent player - which was a good deal btw - is not ideal messaging to the fans. So the gains from the Ings deal get wiped out as all of the prices go up on targets. How difficult is it to get a deal signed with Villa, Grealish deal not done yet for a few days and get the replacement in the bag and then do all of the PR? Lack of funds gets blamed but it’s lack of organisation, strategy and organisation really. My point is that I’m quite happy with the Ings deal but the club do not seem prepared in terms of having fees agreed for replacements and being ready. That means you get mugged for more afterwards as clubs want a chunk of what you are just receiving. I agree the club has cleared some deadwood well although their choice to stick with Reed as long as they did. That’s reactive, let’s see how they do with being proactive. Edited 5 August, 2021 by saint1977 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 5 August, 2021 Share Posted 5 August, 2021 5 minutes ago, Wsaint said: Welcome Messi. But he is unproven in the Prem...and he is too short. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy the Kidd Posted 5 August, 2021 Share Posted 5 August, 2021 Useless boardroom. I feel we have a far better boardroom than weve had in years, cleared out lots of deadwood this summer, and started the recruitment pretty well so far this summer. A board who also managed to get Villa to overpay by maybe 30%. Not sure what you are expecting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 5 August, 2021 Share Posted 5 August, 2021 I don't understand the logic of some of you on here. You expect us to just throw money at Blackburn and not haggle a bit to get the price down but at the same time complain we have no money to spend. Surely it's smarter business to have a few target and then start the negotiation process to get the price down a bit? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wsaint Posted 5 August, 2021 Share Posted 5 August, 2021 3 minutes ago, miserableoldgit said: But he is unproven in the Prem...and he is too short. Good point, waste of money let's get welbeck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodgey Posted 5 August, 2021 Share Posted 5 August, 2021 Think that’s fair, but they are falling short on succession planning 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 5 August, 2021 Share Posted 5 August, 2021 Just now, OttawaSaint said: I don't understand the logic of some of you on here. You expect us to just throw money at Blackburn and not haggle a bit to get the price down but at the same time complain we have no money to spend. Surely it's smarter business to have a few target and then start the negotiation process to get the price down a bit? I agree with you unless we haggle and then end up losing out and go for the cheaper and possibly not as good alternative. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M271 Posted 5 August, 2021 Share Posted 5 August, 2021 25 minutes ago, Dr. Kucho said: Messi available for nothing, only wages.. Who's on Potters Heron watch? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 5 August, 2021 Share Posted 5 August, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: I agree with you unless we haggle and then end up losing out and go for the cheaper and possibly not as good alternative. That's the risk you take I guess. Some on here when buying a used car must march straight up the the seller, see the 15,000 asking price and immediately panic and give them 18,000 just to make sure they get the car they want meanwhile similar cars are going for 12,000. That's fine if you are rich, be we aren't! Edited 5 August, 2021 by OttawaSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 5 August, 2021 Share Posted 5 August, 2021 The Southampton way get some one in cheap & the rest of money mysteriously dissapears 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErwinK1961 Posted 5 August, 2021 Share Posted 5 August, 2021 1 minute ago, Hodgey said: Think that’s fair, but they are falling short on succession planning He left 24 hours ago, in what was clearly a shock bolt out of the blue for all parties, with Villa looking to rush it through before they announce selling Grealish. Not sure we can say we’re falling short on succession planning just yet. I’m sure we’ve got targets lined up, but 1) we were probably surprised at how quickly the Villa transfer went through (all done in a day) and 2) needed the money from the Ings sale to actually buy his replacement. If in a couple of weeks time we still aren’t any closer, I’ll agree with you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErwinK1961 Posted 5 August, 2021 Share Posted 5 August, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Mr X said: The Southampton way get some one in cheap & the rest of money mysteriously dissapears Except that’s not happened before. Edited 5 August, 2021 by ErwinK1961 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 5 August, 2021 Share Posted 5 August, 2021 6 minutes ago, OttawaSaint said: That's the risk you take I guess. Some on here when buying a used car must march straight up the the seller, see the 15,000 asking price and immediately panic and give them 18,000 just to make sure they get the car they want meanwhile similar cars are going for 12,000. That's fine if you are rich, be we aren't! I'm fine with a bit of a haggle but we just need to do it in the right way. We have been guilty in the past of holding out for so long that we lose the player we want and get the less effective alternative. Our ings replacement will probably define our season and may well be the difference between safety and relegation. If we mess up the signing of a lb it is a pain but we would probably be OK but this is imperative that we get the right person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 5 August, 2021 Share Posted 5 August, 2021 38 minutes ago, Dr. Kucho said: Messi available for nothing, only wages.. On a serious note, it does put a bit of perspective on Ings leaving because he wouldn’t sign a new contract here. If it can happen to Barcelona it can happen to anyone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Lion Tamer Posted 5 August, 2021 Share Posted 5 August, 2021 5 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: I'm fine with a bit of a haggle but we just need to do it in the right way. We have been guilty in the past of holding out for so long that we lose the player we want and get the less effective alternative. Our ings replacement will probably define our season and may well be the difference between safety and relegation. If we mess up the signing of a lb it is a pain but we would probably be OK but this is imperative that we get the right person. Examples? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 5 August, 2021 Share Posted 5 August, 2021 It's a random tweet, no idea why people are taking it as verbatim. We don't even know if we are actually interested in Armstrong either. Also if £25-30 million is a good deal for Danny Ings, then logically £20 million for a player, ok younger, but only proven in the Championship, in the exact same contract situation is clearly too much. Not a huge amount of difference in age or goals scored between Armstrong and Che, and we paid around £15 million for Che, so a fee closer to that makes more sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabrice29 Posted 5 August, 2021 Share Posted 5 August, 2021 12 minutes ago, Lighthouse said: On a serious note, it does put a bit of perspective on Ings leaving because he wouldn’t sign a new contract here. If it can happen to Barcelona it can happen to anyone. That's not what has happened. Messi has agreed to stay but Barcelona finances and the leagues rules mean it's not plausible. Think today was bit of a power move from Barcelona to be honest, an attempt to get La Liga to cave on their rules or they risk losing the leagues star player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 5 August, 2021 Share Posted 5 August, 2021 3 hours ago, ozzmeister said: A quote from a Blackburn fan on Armstrong - ‘Armstrong is quick, and when playing with confidence is a handful - very good at pressing, but he won’t replace Ings from a shot conversion rate unless he’s been working on his finishing over the summer’ sounds like another Che Adam’s to me. none of his goals show the speed. Certainly sharp, like Ings was, but nothing that suggest great pace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danjosaint Posted 5 August, 2021 Share Posted 5 August, 2021 But Barca are about to be handed €250m from the new cvc la liga deal, I'm sure that will help towards Messi's wages Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 5 August, 2021 Share Posted 5 August, 2021 2 hours ago, Bailey said: I've heard we've registered an interest in Sander Berge at Sheffield United. Would be a welcome addition for the right price but suspect others higher up the food chain will be ahead in the queue. Could be one to watch the closer we get to deadline day... very good player according to a Sheff United fan in the family that I spoke to last Xmas. I was going ti suggest him on here, but wasn't sure how good a season he had in the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 5 August, 2021 Share Posted 5 August, 2021 56 minutes ago, Wsaint said: Welcome Messi. This site will say too small Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 5 August, 2021 Share Posted 5 August, 2021 23 minutes ago, danjosaint said: But Barca are about to be handed €250m from the new cvc la liga deal, I'm sure that will help towards Messi's wages It's not about Barca not affording it, everything was agreed. But because La Liga have halved Barca's wage cap they do not have the space in their budget to accommodate him on the terms they agreed. As another said, it feels like a political move by Barca - it'll make La Liga look at what it's imposing and maybe reign in a bit, losing their number one marketable asset is a huge deal breaker. Still expect him to be at Barca come September. Although if we had ambition we'd have signed him by now ffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardc Posted 5 August, 2021 Share Posted 5 August, 2021 1 hour ago, Wsaint said: Welcome Messi. My sources said we were close but it broke down over our 30% sell on clause and Adams wouldnt give up his number 10 shirt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 5 August, 2021 Share Posted 5 August, 2021 29 minutes ago, Chez said: none of his goals show the speed. Certainly sharp, like Ings was, but nothing that suggest great pace. The Blackburn FM researcher must think hes very quick because he has a lot of pace and acceleration in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 5 August, 2021 Share Posted 5 August, 2021 33 minutes ago, Chez said: none of his goals show the speed. Certainly sharp, like Ings was, but nothing that suggest great pace. I think you need to watch some videos of him again, he beats lots of players for pace in them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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